FKK Babylon (Koeln)

[Mursenary]

Since the re-opening and the low number of men (and girls) visiting, a small change has already been made: only first half hour will cost 60 euro, for 1 hour it will be 110 euro, etc (so +50 for every additional hour in the room). Only the guys who make (Very) long sessions will appreciate this a bit, but let's hope the owner also will lower the first half hour AND of course the crazy entrance fee of Euro 75.

Just to clarify, guessing you mean +50 for every half hour after the first. If you mean 50/ HR after, then that would be surprisingly great news if true.

[Mursenary]

Since the re-opening and the low number of men (and girls) visiting, a small change has already been made: only first half hour will cost 60 euro, for 1 hour it will be 110 euro, etc (so +50 for every additional hour in the room). Only the guys who make (Very) long sessions will appreciate this a bit, but let's hope the owner also will lower the first half hour AND of course the crazy entrance fee of Euro 75.

Maybe he's thinking the higher rare will attract more girls which will attract more clients. Hiking up the entry price without ensuring a better product first is an odd move though.

But in real estate, sometimes you charge higher rent in order to deter some tenets. This might be one way the owner is keeping the club filled with German clientele rather than the crowds seen in Samya and Mondial without having to implement GT's selective door policies.

[ExpatLover]

Since the re-opening and the low number of men (and girls) visiting, a small change has already been made: only first half hour will cost 60 euro, for 1 hour it will be 110 euro, etc (so +50 for every additional hour in the room). Only the guys who make (Very) long sessions will appreciate this a bit, but let's hope the owner also will lower the first half hour AND of course the crazy entrance fee of Euro 75.

I don't believe they will decrease the entry ticket price, they know they have a poor LU so better to take the money even the guy will not return. Summer was never the best time for the LU I don t believe it will be different this year, I guess even worse. As long there will be no big fairs in Germany we will not see some semi pro working girls entering the business. Those girls were always great opportunities for guys like me looking for fresh and natural beauties.

[Maxime]

Since the re-opening and the low number of men (and girls) visiting, a small change has already been made: only first half hour will cost 60 euro, for 1 hour it will be 110 euro, etc (so +50 for every additional hour in the room). Only the guys who make (Very) long sessions will appreciate this a bit, but let's hope the owner also will lower the first half hour AND of course the crazy entrance fee of Euro 75.

[Sirioja]

Seeing a WG is a discretionary expense. Most of us on ISG see P6 as a necessity because we have our hardcore monger goggles on.

When the cost of cigarettes goes up, social smokers can use that as a convenient reason to quit or cut back significantly. But a chain smoker, who is chemically addicted, will consume at the same rate, despite prices increasing. Or let's say from age 25-35 your income tripled. Being a hardcore monger, we can assume that your mongering spend probably tripled (or at least doubled). But can the same be said about other hobbies that you are less passionate and enthusiastic about?

When the price of something goes up significantly, sometimes consumers respond by buying less. Back in 2016 at Sharks, there was the young Turkish guy who was there almost everyday. There was the guy Siri used to call "hermaphrodyte", and his Balkan-German best friend. Those three were always sitting near the Sharks money locker. By 2019, none of them were around. They didn't quit cold turkey, but it was gradual. I bumped into the Balkan maybe 2018. He told me he stopped attending because the WGs' attitudes got worse. I couldn't disagree with him. I asked him if he found another "favorite" club. He flatly said he didn't monger that much any more.

Yah that is why I believe the WGs will make attempts to increase prices over the next 90-180 days. If they are successful, then the prices will remain high. ACA Velbert tried the same from July 2017 to maybe November 2017, before returning back to normal prices. But like you said, that is a more remote, working class club.

From my first experience, in the NRW biggest opened club with about 30/40 girls, even not on top for casting compare to what I knew, but no increasing for entry nor girls, girls being hungry for business, not crowded on a Friday night, many guys don t like to have to give their data. On 2020 reopening, when we were asked our data, Globe was not so crowded. Wish long time Oase girls won t return, when they fuck business there, when fresh Romanian blood need money from misery at home.

[Mursenary]

Seeing a WG is a discretionary expense. Most of us on ISG see P6 as a necessity because we have our hardcore monger goggles on.

When the cost of cigarettes goes up, social smokers can use that as a convenient reason to quit or cut back significantly. But a chain smoker, who is chemically addicted, will consume at the same rate, despite prices increasing. Or let's say from age 25-35 your income tripled. Being a hardcore monger, we can assume that your mongering spend probably tripled (or at least doubled). But can the same be said about other hobbies that you are less passionate and enthusiastic about?

When the price of something goes up significantly, sometimes consumers respond by buying less. Back in 2016 at Sharks, there was the young Turkish guy who was there almost everyday. There was the guy Siri used to call "hermaphrodyte", and his Balkan-German best friend. Those three were always sitting near the Sharks money locker. By 2019, none of them were around. They didn't quit cold turkey, but it was gradual. I bumped into the Balkan maybe 2018. He told me he stopped attending because the WGs' attitudes got worse. I couldn't disagree with him. I asked him if he found another "favorite" club. He flatly said he didn't monger that much any more.

I think the point I'm making is that the Hessen clubs will have an elevated fair market value because fair market value is heavily influenced by the wealth of the region. With Hessen clubs being filled with more white collar international mongers who have largely acquired more wealth during the pandemic, the acceptable cost of Hessen mongering is in more danger of rising than NRW. Much like a Big Mac Meal in Zurich costing over 10 euro since that is the fair market value determined by the residence there, the price inflation in Hessen might dictate a higher fair market value due to the fatter wallets of the international mongers which may not be the case in NRW clubs often filled with local Blue collar and younger Turkish clientele.

Babylon specifically is not a young Turkish club. I believe many pensioners go there. Surely they have fatter wallets, having no place to spend it this past year. Perhaps they locals in that area will prop up those price hikes.

[Mursenary]

What happens if the inflation rate in the US goes BSC but remains under control in the EU? How will this affect the exchange rate? If girls raise their rates, will it be a double whammy fur die Amerikaner?

That certainly would be a possible and unfortunate outcome for us Americans. Good thing I keep 9,999 euro in my TransferWise account. #ProTip.

[McAdonis]

From my impression, white collar workers have been much less affected financially. With that, the fair market value of a session would naturally increase.

Seeing a WG is a discretionary expense. Most of us on ISG see P6 as a necessity because we have our hardcore monger goggles on.

When the cost of cigarettes goes up, social smokers can use that as a convenient reason to quit or cut back significantly. But a chain smoker, who is chemically addicted, will consume at the same rate, despite prices increasing. Or let's say from age 25-35 your income tripled. Being a hardcore monger, we can assume that your mongering spend probably tripled (or at least doubled). But can the same be said about other hobbies that you are less passionate and enthusiastic about?

When the price of something goes up significantly, sometimes consumers respond by buying less. Back in 2016 at Sharks, there was the young Turkish guy who was there almost everyday. There was the guy Siri used to call "hermaphrodyte", and his Balkan-German best friend. Those three were always sitting near the Sharks money locker. By 2019, none of them were around. They didn't quit cold turkey, but it was gradual. I bumped into the Balkan maybe 2018. He told me he stopped attending because the WGs' attitudes got worse. I couldn't disagree with him. I asked him if he found another "favorite" club. He flatly said he didn't monger that much any more.

Combine that with the fact that the girls will compare the 50 e session against this past year's 150 e per session regardless money made based on volume, I'm interested to see how this will play out.

Yah that is why I believe the WGs will make attempts to increase prices over the next 90-180 days. If they are successful, then the prices will remain high. ACA Velbert tried the same from July 2017 to maybe November 2017, before returning back to normal prices. But like you said, that is a more remote, working class club.

[Clodius1]

I think your battle is going to be between maintaining smart / thrifty spending habits versus supply and demand. Maybe in NRW, where there many more blue collar workers, you may see that the basic economics is the same or maybe clients are in even worse financial situations. In an area like Hessen that has a lot of out of town money, you will see more white collar clients. From my impression, white collar workers have been much less affected financially. With that, the fair market value of a session would naturally increase.

Combine that with the fact that the girls will compare the 50 e session against this past year's 150 e per session regardless money made based on volume, I'm interested to see how this will play out.

What happens if the inflation rate in the US goes BSC but remains under control in the EU? How will this affect the exchange rate? If girls raise their rates, will it be a double whammy fur die Amerikaner?

[Mursenary]

Unofficially I can definitely see the WGs in Hessen demanding more. Changing official rates, I am not sure that would be wise. From my standpoint, there is a lot of uncertainty regarding reopening, inflation, economy, whether customers will be scared off by tracking. Hessen is also more dependent on overseas mongers.

The mongers should also be aware that many of the WGs need money and exercise some willpower. But that is probably asking too much.

Hessen clientele will probably let the WGs get away with it.

I think your battle is going to be between maintaining smart / thrifty spending habits versus supply and demand. Maybe in NRW, where there many more blue collar workers, you may see that the basic economics is the same or maybe clients are in even worse financial situations. In an area like Hessen that has a lot of out of town money, you will see more white collar clients. From my impression, white collar workers have been much less affected financially. With that, the fair market value of a session would naturally increase.

Combine that with the fact that the girls will compare the 50 e session against this past year's 150 e per session regardless money made based on volume, I'm interested to see how this will play out.

[Sirioja]

Thank you for reporting. Curious whether the Hessen clubs when they reopen will have similar increases. Hope not, but the girls are aware plenty of guys have been saving up for the past year and can afford to spend more. Even I am tempted to budge a little after a year and an increase in means.

I know however that the increased competition as more girls arrive will keep some of the price increases in check as the months go by.

With test asked, ID control and data to write, clubs are not so crowded, girls being hungry for business. At Samya Koln, entry still 50 with fifth for free, meaning entry 40 on average, and girls rate still 50. Got higher potential for sex than at GT or Globe, for this rate. High level girls usually don t speak about money and prefer to make regulars, a way to select girls. I usually don't repeat with upselling, even when they are good.

[BigBuddy69]

Don't forget that the girls need more our money than we need them. For most of them, their alternative is to go flip some burgers in Mac Donald's or stack the shelves in Lidl. It's rather obvious that if mongers keep on going to Babylon, the price increase will spread everywhere. Men were able to survive during the pandemic no, their balls didn't explode?

And for tefab, yes it's 35 euros now.

[McAdonis]

Thank you for reporting. Curious whether the Hessen clubs when they reopen will have similar increases.

Unofficially I can definitely see the WGs in Hessen demanding more. Changing official rates, I am not sure that would be wise. From my standpoint, there is a lot of uncertainty regarding reopening, inflation, economy, whether customers will be scared off by tracking. Hessen is also more dependent on overseas mongers.

Hope not, but the girls are aware plenty of guys have been saving up for the past year and can afford to spend more. Even I am tempted to budge a little after a year and an increase in means.

The mongers should also be aware that many of the WGs need money and exercise some willpower. But that is probably asking too much.

I know however that the increased competition as more girls arrive will keep some of the price increases in check as the months go by.

Hessen clientele will probably let the WGs get away with it.

[Lanthano]

Did re-open yesterday with higher entrance price (75 Euro for full day) and higher room rates (60430), not much going on (approx 10-14 girls), but ok, it was first day. Let's see what happens, but I hear from many regulars they will avoid since better AND cheaper alternatives are around.

Thank you for reporting. Curious whether the Hessen clubs when they reopen will have similar increases. Hope not, but the girls are aware plenty of guys have been saving up for the past year and can afford to spend more. Even I am tempted to budge a little after a year and an increase in means.

I know however that the increased competition as more girls arrive will keep some of the price increases in check as the months go by.

[TeFab456]

According to reports in several for a the extra-pricing has been moved up as well. 35 Euro instead of 25, no idea is the price for anal has doubled as well. This club is becoming more and more overpriced in the NRW-area. Line-up of 15 girls approximately during the first week, all Rumanians. Ridiculous pricing for what's being offered.

35 for CIM?