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  1. #1765
    Quote Originally Posted by Boomer10
    I think this was Nille's quote but I really couldn't tell for sure.

    Well, mostly yes it is in Lichtenberg, depending upon which Lichtenberg you're talking about or if you mean city limits of Hennef or if you're thnking about the larger town of Lichtenberg that's near Berlin or the one closer to Frankfurt (I saw 3 different Lichtenbergs in different states on a google maps). Bernd's Lichtenberg has the same postal code as Hennef but it's about 5 miles from downtown Hennef. So it is, if you're sending a letter but my understanding is that the village is called Lichtenberg and is marked that way on all of the maps I've seen.
    Yes it was my quote I just forgot the quote tags.

    Well according to my Tomtom GPS is Hennef, if you key in Lichtenberg you'll go to another city in Germany near the Czech border.

    Hennef-Lichtenberg is the korrect place.

  2. #1764
    Quote Originally Posted by Boomer10
    I think this was Nille's quote but I really couldn't tell for sure.

    Well, mostly yes it is in Lichtenberg.
    This is the adres:
    Bernds SaunaClub
    Schieferhof 28
    53773 Hennef-Lichtenberg

    The City is Hennef and Lichtenberg is a part (Germans call it Ortsteil) of Hennef.
    For GPS Hennef is OK even if you want to send a postcard!

    B30

  3. #1763
    Quote Originally Posted by Boomer10
    I think this was Nille's quote but I really couldn't tell for sure.

    Well, mostly yes it is in Lichtenberg, depending upon which Lichtenberg you're talking about or if you mean city limits of Hennef or if you're thnking about the larger town of Lichtenberg that's near Berlin or the one closer to Frankfurt (I saw 3 different Lichtenbergs in different states on a google maps). Bernd's Lichtenberg has the same postal code as Hennef but it's about 5 miles from downtown Hennef. So it is, if you're sending a letter but my understanding is that the village is called Lichtenberg and is marked that way on all of the maps I've seen.
    Who's right apparently depends on who's asking and for what purpose:

    1.) Maps (and the signs actually in and near the village) say Lichtenberg.

    2.) GPSes and Google Maps say that Bernds is in Hennef (Sieg.) My GPS does respond to just Hennef also.

    3.) The management refers to the place as Hennef/Lichtenberg. Or at least that's how Conny or the "bartender of the day" answers the phone. Before the website update c. 2007, even their business cards just said Sauna-Club Hennef/Lichtenberg.

    Of course we know for sure that a.) the town is not named Schieferhof and b.) this is pretty concrete proof that the writers and editors responsible for the askmen.com article never went there.

  4. #1762
    Quote Originally Posted by Nille Copenhagen
    Bernds is in Hennef, NRW not Lichtenberg
    Nille
    I think this was Nille's quote but I really couldn't tell for sure.

    Well, mostly yes it is in Lichtenberg, depending upon which Lichtenberg you're talking about or if you mean city limits of Hennef or if you're thnking about the larger town of Lichtenberg that's near Berlin or the one closer to Frankfurt (I saw 3 different Lichtenbergs in different states on a google maps). Bernd's Lichtenberg has the same postal code as Hennef but it's about 5 miles from downtown Hennef. So it is, if you're sending a letter but my understanding is that the village is called Lichtenberg and is marked that way on all of the maps I've seen.

  5. #1761
    Quote Originally Posted by Iseeu
    1. Bernd’s, Lichtenberg, Germany:
    Bernds is in Hennef, NRW not Lichtenberg

    4. Lady Marmalade's, London: In the UK of all places, a once great kingdom not normally known for P4P options, in an upscale central location, nestles this oustanding “gentleman’s party”. Great management keeps a personal eye on every customer creating a fabulous fun atmosphere, If you’re shy or intimidated by the immediate presence of other bodies in the throes of sex, don’t bother. If not, this is simply, one of the most intense sensual experiences on the planet, with lovely, willing lasses, seeking nothing else but your pleasure. And it's even reasonably priced. Just wish the parties would last longer!
    You can attend the 4 hours party on Saturdays, or 2x2 or 3x3 hours on weekdays.

    I love LMP too, intense sex that you can not get in FKKs.

    Nille

  6. #1760
    Well, I can't resist polluting the Bernd's thread with my top 10 list. Will limit to two places in each country to keep some variety:

    1. Subic bay, Philippines: The bars along Barrio Barreto in combination with the lazy life there hanging on the beach is great. Can't really name on specific bar there, but there are plenty of them
    2. Privee, Tarragona, Spain: This summer had one of the best lineups I have seen in a club in Europe and the sessions were without exception fantastic
    3. Angeles city, Philippines: around 300 girly bars side by side, really sleezy place, but great fun, but after a while you just got to get out of that town
    4. Sauna 18, Macau: As Isseu says, the lineup
    is unmatched in this place if you like Asian women. Chinese, Vietnamese, Mongolian...and even Russian girls there. @Isseu: The price is not included in the ferry ticket, but the ferry ticket is included in the sauna package.
    5. Oase, Frankfurt, Germany: IMO the most consistent FKK club in Germany. Lineup is consistently decent, food is consistently bad, rooms are consistently dirty and the lockerroom smell is consistently nasty. Love the place
    6. The other 10-15 saunas in Macau: Can't really distinguish between them, but honorable mention to Rio, Excellent, East Spa, Sanado, Boss. Do not really like Fortuna and I loath Supreme sauna for undisclosed reasons
    7. Estark, Madrid, Spain: Small place filled with mostly Romanians, but I happen to love Romanians
    8. Neptunes, Hong Kong: Good selection of Thai, Vietnamese, Phil and Indo girls there. A good mixture of hardcore old timers and new fresh girls
    9. Living Room, Germany: I just really like the place, the management and always have good time there. Lineup last winter/spring was very good
    10. Golden time, Vienna, Austria: Only been there once, but at that time they had a great lineup and I had 3 great sessions

    What about Bernd's? Well, I really like the place and I can see the attraction of it. The lineup does just not have quite the selection of good looking girls I need, but I will still have it on my places to visit if I am passing by, but wont make a big detour to get there. I agree the service is very good there, but I get the same level of service elsewhere in Germany if I am alert in my selection or go with one of my regulars.

  7. #1759

    My list of great sex clubs

    On an extended Asian business trip the last couple of weeks, with 5 Asian beauties keeping me busy during my off time, so I’ve had little chance to follow the forum. It’s winding down now, and I’ll be back in the sex penitentiary soon, so I should have time to respond to posts and file a report on the August Hof inspection.

    I’m not sure how this got into the Bernd’s thread, but I saw the ranking of favorite clubs and couldn’t resist posting my own. I agree that the AskMen list is a bunch of crock, doubt that the editors ever visited any of the clubs and guess that it was probably financed by some of the clubs on the list. Aside from the obvious mistakes, there’s no way that Big Sister, Relax, Bunny Ranch (which I’ve been to and isn’t in Carson City) or Nana (which isn’t a club, just a building with bars and go-go clubs) could ever make a serious list.

    1. Bernd’s, Lichtenberg, Germany: This one is obvious for those of you who know me or have followed my postings. I thank my lucky stars every day that I’m able to get here regularly and can afford to visit whenever the opportunity arises. It's small, outdated, and can be intimidating for a first time visitor and/or non-German speaker, but it performs its primary purpose, the provision of professional sexual services, exceptionally. I have no doubt that I benefit from being a familiar face, which results in a service level that cannot be matched anywhere. I would be a very frustrated, horny and insufferable middle-aged crank if not for the expert ministrations of the Hof women.

    2. Eden, Bangkok, Thailand: Have to agree with the previous poster about this. $100 gets you 2 experienced horny practitioners who will do anything that your perverted mind can think of for 90 minutes of non-stop action. Once you find a favorite, you can order her out to your hotel room for the night and usually most of the next day for about $120.

    3. 18 Sauna Club, Macau: After you’ve had a hands-on bath from the young female shower attendants, a foot massage, a scalp massage and ordered dinner from the restaurant, 150 of the most gorgeous Asian women of every size and nationality lineup for you to choose from. An amazing, large beautifully designed place taking up a couple of floors of a high rise hotel and they even have bunks to sleep in if you’re too knackered from all of the treatments. And, it’s all included in the price of the ferry from Hong Kong!

    4. Lady Marmalade's, London: In the UK of all places, a once great kingdom not normally known for P4P options, in an upscale central location, nestles this oustanding “gentleman’s party”. Great management keeps a personal eye on every customer creating a fabulous fun atmosphere, If you’re shy or intimidated by the immediate presence of other bodies in the throes of sex, don’t bother. If not, this is simply, one of the most intense sensual experiences on the planet, with lovely, willing lasses, seeking nothing else but your pleasure. And it's even reasonably priced. Just wish the parties would last longer!

    5. Oase, Burgholzhausen, Germany: Ok, so the food’s not great, the ventilation sucks, and the place could use a thorough cleaning, but the facilities, especially the pool/ outdoor area are really good, and I find that it's always had the most consistently good and diverse SP lineup of all of the other options in the Frankfurt area. It’s been like that for a very long time, and a night at the Oase, in the arms of some of its stars, with an occasional newcomer thrown into the mix, is hard to beat.

    6. 4X4, Rio De Janeiro: This was my first Rio club and remains my favorite, since I’ve only had great experiences there. Agree with the previous posters, it’s hectic, frenzied and crowded but still upscale with almost 100 sexy bundas vying for your loving. It’s impossible to pick a bad companion, and once you click, there’s an excellent chance that the loving will continue outside of the club. Great service ethic and very good value for money.

    7. Annie’s, Bangkok: It’s hard to stand out in a place like BKK, where you literally trip over massage parlors as you walk the streets, but Annie’s has been doing it for 20 years, with involved hands-on management, and a nice variety of lovely young masseuses. Located right in poon central, the place needed to be renovated 10 years ago, but it’s easy not to notice the flaking paint job, when you’re being cleaned and brushed by a young bush.

    8. Mettmann, Mettmann, Germany: Once again, have to agree with the previous poster. The women are not FKK standard but the service level can’t be beat. Also not for the shy and retiring, but what an incredible, intense experience, right out of the kinkiest most decadent porn movie.

    9. Hong Kong, Tijuana, Mexico: Just down the block from Adelita’s which was previously mentioned, I find it less cliquey than A’s, more spacious and easier to find a suitable companion. Probably the most amazing strip club you’ve ever seen. Entering the 4 levels of gyrating bodies, you’re overcome with sensory overload as it’s hard to take in all of the action around you. It's all a bit kitschy, but the senioritas aren’t and for $50, they’re happy to go upstairs with you.

    10. Orchard Towers, Singapore: By day, a cheap, sleazy shopping center, at night it’s transformed into one big sleazy pick-up bar. 10 different clubs are located on its 3 floors, with close to 1,000 women to choose from all over the Asian continent. I’ve enjoyed the pleasures of Vietnam, Mongolia, Malaysia, the Philippines, China and Korea here. It’s hard to go wrong, but choose carefully or you may find an unpleasant surprise poking out at you between the sheets.

    Honorable Mention:
    L’uomo, Rio
    Tulip, Bangkok
    K9, Prague
    Globe, Zurich
    World, Pohlheim, Germany
    Living Room, Kaarst, Germany
    Oxygen Retreat, Dominican Republic

    While not strictly P4P places, I would be remiss if I did not mention 3 swinger clubs which are each exceptional in their own way:
    Beverly, Solingen, Germany
    Miami Velvet, Miami, Florida
    Showboat, Holland

    Wow, that was fun, especially reliving some of these experiences. Wish that I could visit each one of these places more often. Actually, a trip to Eden right now would do wonders for my itch. Asian lass #3 is going to really enjoy herself tonight. LOL

  8. #1758

    Oops

    I actually have to argue with myself here, because I forgot about LMP and about Goldentime. Nille is definitely right to make those places top 10 picks. Bummer, that kinda messes up my top 10.

    @GFE finder: Yes, Bahamas was special. Too bad the owner mouthed off too much to the city government.

    Then again, there were times at the Hof when it really blew my mind. Leonie and Debbie and Jamilla and Steffie on the same day: that really deserved a top 10 billing! OK, forget it; I can't make up my mind.

  9. #1757
    Quote Originally Posted by Marlow
    Angus, I am glad you can get them to roll over and tickle their tummies.
    But as someone who has been here a lot longer than six years, ...................................
    You have to be cruel to be kind.
    Might I suggest you make a visit to France.

    Ignorance personified.

    Especially after Northern France, you will appreciate the Germans.

  10. #1756

    More top 10

    Wow I didn't realise I opened the Pandora's box (in a good way) for the top 10 brothels by referring to AskMen.

    I'm convinced that AskMen didn't checked out the nominated brothels them self, as some places on the list are not good.

    My personal ranking, according to the best sexual experiences I had in the brothels. I'm not taking the food and relax facilities in to consideration.

    I've not been to Termas yet, but I'm pretty sure the Termas are great, I need to go there someday.

    My best sexual experiences at:
    1. Villa Vertigo, NRW
    2. Lady Marmalade Parties, London
    3. Oase, Hessen
    4. Samya, NRW
    5. Goldentime, NRW
    6. Living Room, NRW
    7. Artemis, Berlin
    8. Palace, Hessen
    9. World, Hessen
    10.Bernds, NRW

    Nille

  11. #1755
    Quote Originally Posted by Euro100
    The top-10 list of brothels at http://www.askmen.com/top_10/dating/brothels.html was quite interesting. I have been to more than half of them and must say that I do not agree at all with the selection.

    Here are the top 10 of AskMen:

    10. Big Sister, Prague
    9. The Site, Sidney
    8. FKKW, Pohlheim
    7. Nana, Bangkok
    6. Bernds, Lichtenberg
    They actually think it's in the town of "Schieferhof"-- look it up if you don't believe me.

    Quote Originally Posted by Euro100
    5. Oase, BHH
    4. Centaurus, Rio
    3. Relax, Hamburg
    2. Bunny Ranch, Carson City
    1. Tiffany's, Sidney

    Putting Relax and the Bunny Ranch into this list is a joke, IMHO.
    Or pandering, or possibly the result of a bribe.... I've no intention of going to either thanks in large part to a.) the horrible things the Bunny Ranch women said about their paying customers on that HBO show and b.) I understand that I might as well flush my money down the toilet or throw it in a fireplace than go to Relax....


    Quote Originally Posted by Euro100
    I have not been to the two Sidney clubs, but will have to try.
    They've messed up there, too. Having been to Sydney, I'd recommend Victoria's Secrets or La Petite Aroma. (When I was there it was less expensive with girls just as good looking IMHO.)

    Quote Originally Posted by Euro100
    My personal selection:
    10. Baccara, Pattaya
    9. Centaurus, Rio (best-looking girls in Rio)
    8. Paradise, Stuttgart (for the facilities)
    7. FKKW, Pohlheim
    6. Black, BA (best-looking girls in Argentina)
    5. Love Story, Sao Paulo
    4. Adelita, Tijuana (for the adrenaline high)
    3. Oase, BHH (for some of the most outstanding sessions I ever had)
    2. 4*4, Rio (for the sheer sexual energy)
    1. L'uomo, Rio (my home away from home )
    Interesting choices. Here's mine:

    Honorable Mention: Top Damas, Barcelona, Spain

    The only place in Europe that can hold a candle to Germany is Spain, particularly if you like Latinas. I've found this place to have the best lineup in terms of looks, selection, and service when I lived there.

    10. Adelitas Bar, Tijuana, Mexico

    Relatively easy to get to from major population centers in the US (i.e. Southern Calilfornia), one of my first hobby experiences and my longest (there’s a girl there I still see occasionally.)

    9. Eden Club, Bangkok, Thailand

    For approximately $90 (if memory serves and the exchange rate stayed constant), I got 90 minutes with 2 (or more if I want to pay for more) bisexual women who brought a suitcase full of toys and goodies. You name a kink or fetish, somebody there will likely cater to it. Best of all is a policy all brothel owners should adopt: if you're not happy, you don't pay!

    8. Defiance, St. Maarten, Netherlands Antilles

    In the tropical paradise of St. Maarten, here’s a paradise of Colombianas.

    7. Hook, Buenos Aires, Argentina

    They specialize in college-age Argentinean women and are my favorite bar (thanks also to a more reasonable price point) in the so-called “Triangle.”

    6. FKK World, Pohlheim, Germany

    The best facilities of the major FKKs in Germany.

    5. Hotel Del Rey, San Jose, Costa Rica

    This being Costa Rica, there’s plenty to do for tours or outdoor fun. Come here though when you want a broad selection of indoor fun with the ladies.

    4. FKK Oase, Burgholzhausen, Germany

    Broad selection, great service level among the women, fantastic outdoor facilities.

    3. Termas 4 x 4, Rio de Janeiro, Brazil

    High-end Brasileira service level + selection (>100 on good days) + a fairly unique vibe among the termas.

    and tied for #1:

    1. Termas L’uomo, Rio de Janeiro, Brazil

    Everyone makes me feel at home here, it’s the only place that can compete with Bernds service levels.

    1. Bernds Sauna Club, Hennef, Germany

    Quite simply the best service levels in the world.

    Quote Originally Posted by Euro100
    Other really good places would have made the list, if they had not closed down (Atlantis, Help!, ...).
    I never understood the appeal of these places back in the day and I still don’t. Maybe my skull is too thick.

    Sao Paulo's Bahamas, on the other hand....

    Quote Originally Posted by Euro100
    I still love Bernds, but top 10? No.
    And you choose the Bernds thread to tell us this? Are we ever going to get back to trip reports about this place?

  12. #1754
    I will be brief, for once.

    Top 1 Club-The one that I am at, Reason-I am there and from this monger's perspective what counts is one's presence. If I am thinking about the other 9 in the list, I ain't at number 1.

    Rule of Cabbie-dom (taxi); If your fare is not there, don't pick them up.

    AM

  13. #1753

    Since you guys started, here it goes…

    A bit off topic considering this is Bernds’ thread but always informative and certainly better than posts full of prejudice…

    My top ten clubs:

    1-The Globe, Zurich-fucking expensive, like everything in Switzerland, but best line-up I have ever seen in all my life on my 3 visits (3 days in a row), remarkable quality of service, it is somewhat like Bernds(but less kinky)- bad providers do not last there.

    2-Golden Time, Bruggen- many people describe it like a sex-factory; some of my best sessions ever were there, at NRW prices, recent reports are not so good, so things might have changed.

    3-4x4, Rio de Janeiro- for the hectic, sexy atmosphere, number of girls-more than 100 sometimes, very good value for your money

    4-World, Pohlheim-best facilities, atmosphere, just love the place

    5-Solarium, Rio de Janeiro, a less known Termas with a terrific lineup and not as expensive as Centaurus

    6- Oase, Bad Homburg, club has something that is difficult to put into words, despite the terrible food

    7- FKK 39, Bochum- One girl per coach and non-approach policy, coach action, good food, good price, but sometimes lineup is not so good, used to be better

    8- Salamax, Valencia, Spain- nice facilities, beautiful and not aggressive girls (rare in Spanish clubs), good variety of girls nationalities

    9- Partytreff Mettman, Mettman- Older women, some of them could be Bernds girls’ mothers, but very good service, absolutely anything goes, kinky, kinky and funny, public sex, careful because women do you there, sometimes not possible to choose

    10-Centaurus- fucking expensive and not very friendly management but terrific lineup, regarding that the best in Rio

    As for Askmen list-they probably never went to any of these clubs, just second hand info, based on twisted info and reputation.

    Euro, no Vila Mimosa in your list? I am disappointed...

    Tb69

  14. #1752

    Ask Men

    The top-10 list of brothels at http://www.askmen.com/top_10/dating/brothels.html was quite interesting. I have been to more than half of them and must say that I do not agree at all with the selection.

    Here are the top 10 of AskMen:

    10. Big Sister, Prague
    9. The Site, Sidney
    8. FKKW, Pohlheim
    7. Nana, Bangkok
    6. Bernds, Lichtenberg
    5. Oase, BHH
    4. Centaurus, Rio
    3. Relax, Hamburg
    2. Bunny Ranch, Carson City
    1. Tiffany's, Sidney

    Putting Relax and the Bunny Ranch into this list is a joke, IMHO. I have not been to the two Sidney clubs, but will have to try.

    My personal selection:
    10. Baccara, Pattaya
    9. Centaurus, Rio (best-looking girls in Rio)
    8. Paradise, Stuttgart (for the facilities)
    7. FKKW, Pohlheim
    6. Black, BA (best-looking girls in Argentina)
    5. Love Story, Sao Paulo
    4. Adelita, Tijuana (for the adrenaline high)
    3. Oase, BHH (for some of the most outstanding sessions I ever had)
    2. 4*4, Rio (for the sheer sexual energy)
    1. L'uomo, Rio (my home away from home )

    Other really good places would have made the list, if they had not closed down (Atlantis, Help!, ...). I still love Bernds, but top 10? No.

  15. #1751
    Quote Originally Posted by Hessen Bub
    "Der Hof" is special. Atmosphere. Girls. Location. Service. Staff. Size.

    It does have some 70's charme and ambience. Not my cup of tea. To small. To old. Girls not my type. So - within German's you will find Hof-lovers and -haters.

    HB
    Sounds like vintage porn. Kind of cheezy at times, but hot, hot, hot.

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