FKK Bernd's - Schieferhof

[Ortos]

As long ago as last May, I decided to buzz off directly to Bernd's the very next time I am in Germany. This was well before the sudden interest in this club has blossemed, making it almost a cult selection, unfortunately...

Well my next visit to Germany is now just a few days away...and next Monday or Tues should see me in Lichtenburg. So in advance of this, I suddenly start wondering:

--Is there a preferred time of the day to visit this club? or is there a time to avoid?

--I know many clubs have particular patterns: the day time sucks for selection, but after 19.00 the place really picks up...or there are two shifts, day shift vs night shift etc... Well given the fairly early closing time of Bernd's relative to some other clubs, maybe there is only one shift? So if one arrives at say, 15.00, is this a good time to catch the full selection and not be inundated with other male guests? or can one still show up as late as 18.00 and have the best benefits the club can offer?

Just looking for some general guidance here...

thanks in advance to anyone with enough knowledge and kindness to reply...

Ortos

[Marlow]

[QUOTE=The price structure at Bernd's is it 30EUR entry and 80EUR per session?
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Way off beam I sorry to say. Entry to Bernds is 70 euros and each 30 minute session is 50 euros. Entry level is I think set this high to keep the riff-raff out (or should that be in? considering how the girls behave!) because you don't get a lot for it in terms of refreshment and facilities. Not compared to World. But hey, we're here for the sex. And it is hard to beat, when your fifty note buys you erection pleasure time on the sofa during which you will be washed and buffed and made ready for the lady's tent. Depending on your athleticism she will proceed to take you every which way and one or two you never dreamed of doing. When you are good and ready she will offer you the choice of three different 'venues' for your climax - only one of which you will pay extra for.
It is a real shame to go to Bernd's and end up playing missionary. The girls are very game for playing Twister. With you, your friends and her friends. Before I first visited Bernds I didn't have much use for 50 Euro notes. Amazing what it can buy you.

[CBGBConnisur]

Katja?? She my sister, she number four prostitute in all of Kazakhstan!!! LOL
The price structure at Bernd's is it 30EUR entry and 80EUR per session?

I would agree strongly with the poster below that Germany is a sex paradise, at least the parts where FKK clubs exist, mainly the NRW and Frankfurt. The large numbers of Eastern Euro women have a lot to do with this.

There should be a film Sexual Learnings of Germany for Make Benefit Glorious Nation of US and A!!!

[Jackyo]

Whatever happened to the St. Augustine club?

.. closed something like five years ago.

The building was converted into a Kindergarten, believe it or not.

Some of the SAM crew still works at Bernds: the petite Thekenfrau with the muscular calves who used to also work on the floor and of course, Katja.

Katja is practically the only one left of the girls of the SAM staff who still is still active.

[CBGBConnisur]

Whatever happened to the St. Augustine club?

[Iseeu]

By the way, when I woke up I could have still had a session with Katja. She was available. But I picked Agata, because I found her physically more attractive. This is not to knock Katja, it's just my preference. I did not have my laptop with me and was not able to recall from memory who were the highest-rated girls. By the way, I was extremely happy with both of my picks, in physical appearance as well as quality of service, and would gladly repeat.

There were only about 5 girls in the entire place that I found to be attractive to very attractive, and I was glad that I had sufficient opportunity to sample them.

...is one of the most attractive there and she was on my ToDo list last time, but ran out of time. Love that exotic look and fabulously proportioned body.
And Diana is also a looker and also on that list. So much sex out there and so little time. We seem to have very similar tastes.
But unlike some of the other clubs, knowing that service level at Bernd's is universally good and almost guaranteed, I feel more free to take chances and go with a woman who would not usually be in my physical focus group just for the diversity and thrill of trying something new. Mara, with her tomboyish looks is a great example, is a Bernd's star, and gives a great GFE session.

[Euro100]

Put it one other way, if James Bond were to visit a club, he wouldn't visit this club but would visit World because of the facilities. He would better fit into that kind of an environment rather than this one which is more like a Familienbetrieb.

Well, in that case I suppose I'll have my Martini shaken, not stirred.

euro100 (who has to lose 91 in order to obtain double-o rating)

[Euro100]

"Hunt" ? Prostitutes ?

I believe every visit in any Club is like "Shooting fish in a barrel" !

Oh well, I guess my attempt at finely honed irony did not work in this case

[Euro100]

And what a money maker it is. Weren't you even tempted? You missed out on one of the all time great SP's in the business. She's been at it for 12 years and still loves it because she really does like the sex. Hard to believe,when you calculate how many men she's been with in her career.

Oh, absolutely, I was tempted. But what can you do? I had to get up at 6 am the day before, work all day, catch the evening flight from the US to Europe, was not able to sleep in the plane, the hopped into the rental car, had to take care of some very important non-mongering business, then drove to the Hof. I just ran out of gas and had to go to sleep for a few minutes after my first session. My bad! Next time I'll give Katja a try.

By the way, when I woke up I could have still had a session with Katja. She was available. But I picked Agata, because I found her physically more attractive. This is not to knock Katja, it's just my preference. I did not have my laptop with me and was not able to recall from memory who were the highest-rated girls. By the way, I was extremely happy with both of my picks, in physical appearance as well as quality of service, and would gladly repeat.

Then again if newbies are discouraged they won't come back and we keep the mongering hordes to a manageable number.

Seeing how constrained the space is, if they let more than say 30 guys in, it becomes unmanagable. If they have less than 10 males come in, the girls clearly are not getting enough work. It is a really delicate balance. The day I was there it was definitely a buyer's market, and I appreciated this a lot. There were only about 5 girls in the entire place that I found to be attractive to very attractive, and I was glad that I had sufficient opportunity to sample them.

[Jackyo]

Then again if newbies are discouraged they won't come back and we keep the mongering hordes to a manageable number.

.. gemischte Gefuehle (or mixed feelings) about this.

On one hand, I really haven't seen service levels close to those at this club anywhere in Germany.

On the other hand, I don't like it to be crowded with newbies who would spoil the Ambiente.

I have to admit that at one point in time I just didn't get it. There are better looking women at other clubs. And the facilities are quite basic.

But the consistency of service and the longevity of this club is proof that what it has to offer is really unique and not duplicable.

Put it one other way, if James Bond were to visit a club, he wouldn't visit this club but would visit World because of the facilities. He would better fit into that kind of an environment rather than this one which is more like a Familienbetrieb.

[Iseeu]

I was met at the door by the customary naked lady. To my disappointment, she was about a factor 2 (I am not kidding!) too heavy for my taste. But oh well; to each his own. She was very friendly, and later she and another girl (also a bit too heavy to be inside my target group) gave some exquisite BJ service to a guy on the upstairs couch.

Has to be Michele. She's been there forever, and has a loyal stable of repeat customer and the reason is obviously not her looks, but those amazing BJ's and service attitude.

For my first round I picked Diana. For all of you who think that German girls cannot give GFE: Diana is living proof that this theory is wrong. She was great! One of my top 10 all time. (as the regular reader of my posts knows, there are about 50 girls in that category already , but still ...)

Great to know. I was there on her intiation night and she was understandably very shy, but smart and sweet. I was afraid to pop her FKK cherry. Now, I'll put her on my list for Weds.

I went to the kino and threw myself on the couch. (It was not easy to fall asleep, though, because Katja was in there sending SMS on her cell phone. And she was lying with her money-maker right in front of my face, wiggling her legs suggestively.)

And what a money maker it is. Weren't you even tempted? You missed out on one of the all time great SP's in the business. She's been at it for 12 years and still loves it because she really does like the sex. Hard to believe,when you calculate how many men she's been with in her career.

Since you mention the RF, let me also point out that recently there were several reports on how newbies couldn't get any action all day at the Hof. So it is not like all comers are treated like kings there.

How is that possible? All you have to do is pat the couch next to you, go sit next to a naked available woman, start fondling a girl at the bar, or open your towel and and give a come hither smile.
Then again if newbies are discouraged they won't come back and we keep the mongering hordes to a manageable number.

[Jackyo]

Yes, I understand your point of the Hof being a very tighly controlled environment, a sure thing when it comes to the money aspect. On the other hand to me this is not that much of a bonus, because I like the challenge of the hunt. Shooting fish in a barrel was never my thing.

Since you mention the RF, let me also point out that recently there were several reports on how newbies couldn't get any action all day at the Hof. So it is not like all comers are treated like kings there.

If nobody ever talked about FKKW-standard, then let me be the first one. The service I have gotten there from Olga, Irina, Jana, Andrea, non-Helga, Jasmine, Bani, and many others is unsurpassed in Germany.

But, look, in the end the Hof is a great club. As is FKKW. As is Oase. As is the Palace. As is ColA. As was Atlantis. And many more. Germany is a monger's paradise. (In my mind only Brazil is better.) So to me it is kind of pointless to try to discuss which is the better or best club. Everybody has their own preferences.

euro

... and yes, in the end, each one has to determine for himself what they most value.

Yes, I have read recent reports from newbies at the Hof complaining they aren't getting serviced as they should be. It certainly isn't perfect.

I have done World numerous times since its opened and I can say I've had good experiences but also bad ones there. In all it has been an average club for me service-wise. If you are looking at facilities only, it clearly is the very best there is in Gemany.

I have not, however, had excellent experiences; ones which have one wanting to book her over and over again for extended sessions.

These I have only had in the smaller NRW clubs which are less rushed and there is more of a chance for more interaction before, during and after the session. And with their stable teams, one can come back a year later, find more or less the same women and reconnect: we converse, she remembers me, remembers conversations we have had, things we have done together.

I've not connected to the women at World in the same way. I attribute this to the selection at World being too big and unstable. Its hard to get the lay of the land if one isn't there more than a couple of times a year. This increases the risk of landing a bad session and with the service guarantee there being not that clear, I approach each visit to World with caution.

One complaint about a girl at the Hof and she is out of there.

So yes, do get the word out on those girls there who are at FKKW standard. They deserve our business and I will look for them the next time I go.

But I will go only if I find myself in Frankfurt.

[Meindorfer]

I like the challenge of the hunt. Shooting fish in a barrel was never my thing.

"Hunt" ? Prostitutes ?

I believe every visit in any Club is like "Shooting fish in a barrel" !

Meindorfer

[Euro100]

Yes, I understand your point of the Hof being a very tighly controlled environment, a sure thing when it comes to the money aspect. On the other hand to me this is not that much of a bonus, because I like the challenge of the hunt. Shooting fish in a barrel was never my thing.

Since you mention the RF, let me also point out that recently there were several reports on how newbies couldn't get any action all day at the Hof. So it is not like all comers are treated like kings there.

If nobody ever talked about FKKW-standard, then let me be the first one. The service I have gotten there from Olga, Irina, Jana, Andrea, non-Helga, Jasmine, Bani, and many others is unsurpassed in Germany.

But, look, in the end the Hof is a great club. As is FKKW. As is Oase. As is the Palace. As is ColA. As was Atlantis. And many more. Germany is a monger's paradise. (In my mind only Brazil is better.) So to me it is kind of pointless to try to discuss which is the better or best club. Everybody has their own preferences.

euro

[Jackyo]

Euro100,

The difference between this club and any other club is this: you can throw a dart to make your selection of who to spend time with at this club and you cannot go wrong.

At a large club like World, you never know what you are going to get.

Just recently there were posts on the RF about rip off sessions at World.

One dude was charged an extra 50 Euros for fingering. He was new there and didn't know that this wasn't customary. Only after the fact was he made aware that he had been ripped off.

At Bernds you needn't have this worry. I'd much rather have the sure thing.

One of the highest praises anyone can give to a girl wherever it is she works is to say she is at "Hof standard". No one ever writes to say her service was at the "World standard".