FKK Bernd's - Schieferhof

[Polar]

I plan a trip to Frankfurt next weekend. It seems like I will be able to reach Bernds around 22.00 Friday evening. Unfortunately they seems to close at 01. To those of you who have been there, is it worth the time and money just to try the place during these late hours? Unfortunately they are closed during the weekend, so if I want to test it, this is my only chance.

By the way. I read some german, and I have seen on a german forum that they write about some specialities around the car park. I have not been able to understand however. Anyone who knows if there is something special? If it's ful just outside the building, what to do then?

Thanks.

[Marlow]

This doing it like they do on the Discovery Channel - ohne gummi - may be the reason why certain clubs get rave reviews. Cannot for the life of me understand why fucking bare arsed and bare cocked is such a big deal with Germans. They take it as a matter of laddish bravery to risk erasing their lives by leaving the rubber in the pack. When the east opened up the second reason why Germans flooded across the border to such grim dives called 'Love Hotel' or whatever - where you never drink alone and don't stay the night - was because Czech/Polish girls did it ohne for 100DM more.

Other than that Samya is good fun.

[Fly Bob]

I had the chance last week to vist both places. It is not fair to compare them. They are serving completely different people.

Sudbad had some nice looking girls and I went with one that was a 10 in looks and a 4 in the room. All the girls wore large sashes and were somewhat bored due to the slow night.

Schieferhof has an energy of its own. I was there from 13:00 to 23:00 and watched as the crowd changed and the girls adapted. Had three great sessions and a fine relaxing day. The girls are slightly older but much more experienced. They enjoy their jobs and are not doing it for a couple of months to earn money to send back to E. Europe.

My preferance is still Schieferhof, too bad the enterance fee is so high.

Bob

[Meindorfer]

You might want to add that Samya is the only club that has asked every girl they have reports of offering BBFS to leave.

You do not believe this really?

I think it is very unfair to paint that club as an AO (Alles Ohne - everything without) club.

Different users in different forums reports of 'AO' in Samya with different girls. Some names of the girls have been reported too and this girls are still in Samya !

Meindorfer

[Peter]

Meindorfer,

You might want to add that Samya is the only club that has asked every girl they have reports of offering BBFS to leave, as opposed to Sudbad and Sheiferhof. I think it is very unfair to paint that club as an AO (Alles Ohne - everything without) club.

[Fats]

And yes the one great unspoken fact (Every German forum member knows and will never tell you)about both places is that some girls there do it without a condom for a few dollars more.

Several years ago at Atlantis, once we were in the room, one of the girls told me her "service menu". She said every half hour was fifty, CIM was an extra 50, anal was an extra 100, and BBFS was an extra 250. I wasn't interested so I don't know if that price was set in stone but I wouldn't call that amount "a few dollars more."

[Meindorfer]

Yeah, both Sudbad and Bernd's offer real live alcohol. And yes the one great unspoken fact (Every German forum member knows and will never tell you)about both places is that some girls there do it without a condom for a few dollars more.

In every club you will find some bareback-girls.

Samya in Cologne for example is a very well known place for sex without condom.

There are reports in german forums about 5-6 girls offering it.

Meindorfer

[Meindorfer]

In every club you can find some bareback-girls.

Samya in Cologne for example is a very well known place for sex without condom. There are reports in german forums about 5-6 girls offering it.

[Marlow]

I am always a little wary of the reports on the German forums, because it is well known that certain senators, gladiators and so on on these webs act as unpaid promo managers for certain establishments. Wary both when they heap lavish praise and pour on the scorn. There is a great deal of kameradschaft behind the scenes, trade offs for giving a good report. I grant Sudbad is getting a better press and if you don't mind appearances then be my guest and go there. If you like a two storey grey building in a builders yard on an industrial estate. As for being top of the heap in Cologne, I don't think that is difficult given what else in the way of Sauna clubs outside of Samya.

Girl-wise it rates better than before, but facility-wise, well you can't turn a sow's ear into a silk purse. Sorry to be so tough but.

Yeah, both Sudbad and Bernd's offer real live alcohol. And yes the one great unspoken fact (Every German forum member knows and will never tell you)about both places is that some girls there do it without a condom for a few dollars more.

They also do anal and sandwich. Just ask for the 'crew girls' at Bernd's they'll know what you mean.

[Peter]

Marlow,

The place gets as much press or more on german boards in the last 4 months than Bernds. The place has changed their pricing, redone the whole place and is now a major force in cologne. No bad reviews to be read other than an occasional thread claiming that Bare Back sex is available there.

[Breadman]

Stano,

I was under the impression Bernds didnt have beer. But on Sudbad's website it looks like they provide beer. Can you tell me if sudbad and bernds provide beer. And is it free or is there an extra charge? What other fkk clubs that you've been to provide free beer?

[Stano]

Correct me if I am wrong, but Sudbad has a pretty bad reputation among the German forums as old, old, old.

I think you are wrong. Sudbad is one of my favorite club. And I have already experienced more than 10 FKK's (Oase, World, Palace, Samya, Goldentime, PHG, Bernd's, Yin Yang, Ritz, Villa, Colosseum ...)

[Marlow]

That Sudbad and the Hof are owned by the same crowd has been the case for sometime. What you may be referring to is that the original owner of Sudbad who had sold part of the business to Bernd's has now (I hear) sold the remaining part. Sudbad is one of the oldie clubs in Cologne, one of the original so-called red carpet clubs. It's a haunt of older German businessmen from the south (jovial 'boys' from Bavaria with fat wallets and fat!) who know little of the trend towards places like FKK World. Whether Sudbad has changed enough to compete with the newer clubs catering for a more robust and 'modern' clientele remains to be seen.

Correct me if I am wrong, but Sudbad has a pretty bad reputation among the German forums as old, old, old.

[Val Yodel]

Snap-shot Jan 17th:

Found the place very quiet this time. Not many girls, action was slow, m/f ratio changing, between 1:1 and 4:1 at times.

Babsi was there, but dressed, visiting only(very attractive btw). She´ll be back on work by end of the month. Mara was there, but left 7pm (it was her birthday). Attendant girls known:

Alija Ina Katja Leila Michelle Mina Nadine Nadja Sera Svenja.

Plus 2 or 3 new / unknown to me.

Must say I´ve had better days there. But things change daily.

Val

[Fly Bob]

As I know from my last visit end Dec., Babsi planned to take January off . Mara should be there. I plan to visit the place tomorrow evening, open end. Anybody interested to join - pls. pm.

Val

Val,

Let us know who is there now and how the action is. Don't keep us in the dark. Have loads of fun for the night.

Bob