FKK Bernd's - Schieferhof

[Neutron Flux]

Receptionist staff service level and attitude, especially the old women charged in the bar is German standard. It mean the attitude is like the "soup Nazi " in Seinfeld, you take or leave.y.

Oh, come on, man. So you are implying the "standard" German attitude is like the soup nazi? That's quite harsh. What is the Oase reception staff then? LOL. Well, I can assure you, you can find questionable attitude from low level service staff who hate their jobs all over the world, most definitely including the holy US of A. About Bernds, can contribute little, been there like five or six years ago, didn't think it was that bad, but didin't like it a lot either, excatly for the reasons mentioned.

you go there only if you are an open minded monger, if you are still in that phase that you simply drool for the 18 years old girls of Oase do not go there, first impact will not be good and you will not be able to really enjoy the experience

How do you drop out of that phase, LOL? I'm in my 13th year of mongering, about half of those more or less regularly, and I still like the Oase girls. I also see a lot of really old guys at Oase, like 65+. I fear that will be me in the future. But then again, maybe not the worst prospect overall, haha.

[Dreams]

My feeling is that Yakob under-evaluates Bernd's.

"I tell myself I will never find the girl I like here but I always leave the club having spent no less than 400 or 500 euro excluding the entry. Somehow Bernds makes me do it when I just click with a girl."

This may be a compliment, but it has a negative cast. It should be noted that 400 to 500 translates into 4 to 5 hours of one-to-one room time. It also includes some extras that might be extra charges elsewhere. Figuring in the additional couch time and voyeuristic treats Bernd's is known for this makes for a relatively long and action packed visit.

"The thing that the non Germans must remember that the girls generally no speak that much english if any at all."

Less English than perhaps the largest of FKKs, but as shown in the post below more than many others.

"Also the average age of the girls are much older than the early twenties girls you get in the FKKs of Hessen."

While it is true the demographics skew older, there are still enough women in the 20's or early 30's to satisfy, and the degree of affection and passion is, in my experience, much higher than the random Hessen FKK girl. Yes there are some gems in the places with 60+ girls, but it takes a lot of mining to find them. Bernd's offers reliable GFE experiences.

"On the point that some are nterested to hear what is the difference in clientele at Bernd's: what you find is local men."

Yes this is true. And there is a reason for that. Given experience and knowledge of the competition they keep coming back to Bernd's. This is a good, not bad, sign. Yes they are very average looking men, and some are overweight and so on. I'm not sure why this is a concern. I don't go there to look at the men, and the more average the others the better I will look to the girls! (Not that they care all that much one way or another.)

Two days ago I spent 4 hours at Bernd's. Two hours of that I spent with Mara and it felt like I was back in college making love with a coed. A truly wonderful time. The other two hours I spent talking with the girls and other visitors, and I only speak English.

So that's *my* experience. To each his own.

Thta's my experience too.

I am not German, but not North American either. I speak a few European languages, and a little German.

I had more discussions an interactions (non sexual) with girls and guests (one of them form America, who loved it.) at Bernds than I ever had in my numerous visits to the big Hesse clubs. This is essentially due to the small size and family-stykle of tghis club. It is so small that you have to talk to those who are around you. And I also like the public sex, most guys start their session by a BJ and DFK on the couch.

To the extent that I have now sort of forgotten about going to the big 5 in hesse.

To each his own of course.

To the newbie (s) who asked the question: go there at least once, well armed with all the info provided, good or bad, and make your own judgment.

[Indi Companion]

As far as nationalities and languages are concerned, here is a brief summary of the ladies' (non-sexual) skills. As I'm fluent in German, I don't need to speak English with them so I'm pretty sure my

1) German SP: Babsie (excellent English) , Angie (basic English) , Jacky (?) , Sofia (?) , Susan (average English) , Kim (?) , masseuse Sandra (basic English)

2) Romanian SP: Erika (basic English) , Tina (basic English) , Valentina (?)

3) Polish SP: Anna (basic English) , Magda (basic English) , Nathalie (?)

4) Other nationalities: Alina (Lithuanian, basic English) , Jenny (Greek, basic English) , Katja (Russian, average English) , Leonie (Brazilian, basic English) , Mara (Dutch, excellent English) , Nicole (Czech?)

I would add about nationalities and laguage skills as follows:

Romanian: Dana, basic English, good German and Spanish, excellent Italian and basic French. I would like to be able to speak so many languages she does!

Valentina, (RO) speaks excellent English and is still in her early 20' and could easily work in Oase for her looks.

As per the experience, ok I can speak German but I am also a foreigner. All that I can say is that if my trips would not be usually over weekends I would go more often to Bernds. The girls can be a lot of fun to talk with as well as Connie at the bar once the ice is broken and they see you do not have that tipycal attitude many foreigners have such as: "ok I am used to Oase but I came here to have a loor and do to you a favor".

All what I can say is that if and when you go to Bernds, having a nice time or not depends on some psychological factors:

A) you go there only if you are an open minded monger, if you are still in that phase that you simply drool for the 18 years old girls of Oase do not go there, first impact will not be good and you will not be able to really enjoy the experience;

B) go there if you are looking for something exceptional in the service department, not if you are looking for great wellness day and maybe one session during it;

C) remember the no approach policy, a way to talk with the girls could also be to sit at one of the two bars. Many girls gather there to chitchat and you will eventually be involved in a very natural way;

D) remeber that the girls there are a mix, from the early twenty yrs old to the 45yrsold milfs, so getin the mindset that the choice is yours but you can always there find some young and beautiful girl.

However, as a foreigner all I can say is that Bernds for me is a great club, I go there seldom because my buddy friend is not a fun of the place and because usually I am in Clubs over the weekend. However e girls there always welcome me warmly, even if my last visit was 6 months before!

I will go there early days of January for a day of diversity in my usual long new year trip, but for a day off or of pause I will before go to PSR not to Bernds. For me that place is not a place where to recharge my batteries but where to go with them full reloaded!

[UltraHappy]

This is an open answer to some that have not been to Bernd's before. This is not the law, but my own meandering thoughts on a question posed to me.

For many Bernds is a club that is one of the places on one's list to visit.

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I hope this helps. Just my opinion to assist the man that posed the question but all can share in the response.

Thank you Yakob for the open answer and to everyone else that shared their perspectives. Regardless of what happens when I visit (still a few months away) , I will now be able to say that I've been adequately warned. I will stop off here just a bit on one of my so-called days off. So if I strike out, it won't be a big deal. I found that 9-10 days non-stop in the clubs is a bit too much and that taking off a day in the middle is ideal for improving my experience the last half of the trip. Otherwise, those last few days can become a bit of a waste. I am intrigued by the reports of extremely high service levels so I will still check this place out. My only concern is exactly what you mentioned that I might not see anything there to my liking. In any case, I've been warned and will be prepared for striking out.

[Travel69]

It is very good club but not for main stream American.

English is not widely spoken. Visitor should be used to deal with foreign language even you speak only English. Main stream American expect everybody speak English.

Club facility does not reach standard of main stream America.

Receptionist staff service level and attitude, especially the old women charged in the bar is German standard. It mean the attitude is like the "soup Nazi " in Seinfeld, you take or leave. The main steam American cannot get used to it.

The no approach policy.

[Yakob]

"For some reason the experiences I can recall of FKK goers that enter Bernds stay for a little while and then turn tail and leave have all been North American."

If this is true in general it's probably because they don't have enough experience yet to get past the initial eye-candy layer and appreciate that it can easily be trumped by the behavior behind closed doors. And they probably misinterpret the fact that, unlike the sharks at the big clubs, the girls at Bernd's are supposed to let you come to them. They may see this as being cold rather than respectful. To me the fact that German men keep coming back to Bernd's is more meaningful than what occasional tourists may think.

But like I said, to each his own.

P. S. These comments are from a North American too.

This is what I was trying to avoid by prefacing my answers to as a response to those who may not have been to Bernds before. I am not talking for the regulars and locals who are ardent supporters of Bernds and will not have nothing negative said.

The question posed to me was from someone who had not been to Bernds and I thought I would make an open answer to him. So I was writing from the perspective of someone new and not really knowing what Bernds is and only having experienced the big Hessen FKKs. You can tell for some that it can be a shock to the system coming to Bernds and wondering what the fuss is all about.

The fact that I can eventually have a good time at Bernds by spending a lot of money but I do not go back so often as I do other clubs since the draw is not there. Even you sound skeptical when you think it is going to be over crowded for the your visit on the Christmas party on 14 December reflects your taste in style of club. Bernds is not the fuck factories of Frankfurt.

[Neurosynth]

"For some reason the experiences I can recall of FKK goers that enter Bernds stay for a little while and then turn tail and leave have all been North American."

If this is true in general it's probably because they don't have enough experience yet to get past the initial eye-candy layer and appreciate that it can easily be trumped by the behavior behind closed doors. And they probably misinterpret the fact that, unlike the sharks at the big clubs, the girls at Bernd's are supposed to let you come to them. They may see this as being cold rather than respectful. To me the fact that German men keep coming back to Bernd's is more meaningful than what occasional tourists may think.

But like I said, to each his own.

p.s. These comments are from a North American too...

[Yakob]

Once again this is not the law but what I have seen from experience. Men that are used to the big FKKs like Golden Time, Oase and World and Palace may find Bernds a disappointment. There is not the extensive line ups and vast facilities that the Hessen FKKs provide. I was only answering a question from what someone asked me and I thought the answer is generic and not specific so I would just post the answer on the Bernds thread in response since others may benefit.

For some reason the experiences I can recall of FKK goers that enter Bernds stay for a little while and then turn tail and leave have all been North American.

I remember meeting some American colleagues the day after they were at Bernds. These men are middle aged or late thirties men. I asked one what he thought of Bernds. He said that he was dragged to Bernds since one of their party wanted to go see it and had to experience it since he had read it on the forums. All he can say was that there was no where to sit and he and another colleague stood in the corridor since none of the girls would talk to them and just spoke German to their regulars ignboring them. Only the instigator took one girl and the other two left without booking a girl. They had stayed maybe 2 hours and only because one had to wait a bit for his girl booking.

Another man was from Canada. I remember sitting at the downstairs bar and seeing him getting snapped at by what I call a mature woman but many here would say she is in the full bloom of youth. Just a different view. Anyway the Canadaian man was a bit put out from the harsh reception and basically did not know what to do and just stood up the whole time acting rather uncomfortable.

A time in August when I was at Bernds I had seen two Americans from the midwest at Golden Time. We nodded acknowledgement when we saw each other again at Bernds the next day. They had come since they had read some stories about the great times that could be had there. They spent 5 miniutes talking at the bar with a German man then walked around the club ground level and basement then came out into the garden. I had a chat to them and next thing you know they had decided to leave as the club was not to their liking since it was small, the girls were no pretty or young and many were unfriendly. This is their words and it showed in their reaction that in less than 30 minutes of arrival they had gone after spending 70 euro on entry. When speaking to Conny she said that they are used to this reaction from some customers and do not enquire why.

I am not trying to put people off I am just trying to give an even balance to the good reports that are usually written by regulars or people that have a different view of what they want from a club visit.

[Neurosynth]

My feeling is that Yakob under-evaluates Bernd's.

"I tell myself I will never find the girl I like here but I always leave the club having spent no less than 400 or 500 euro excluding the entry. Somehow Bernds makes me do it when I just click with a girl."

This may be a compliment, but it has a negative cast. It should be noted that 400 to 500 translates into 4 to 5 hours of one-to-one room time. It also includes some extras that might be extra charges elsewhere. Figuring in the additional couch time and voyeuristic treats Bernd's is known for this makes for a relatively long and action packed visit.

"The thing that the non Germans must remember that the girls generally no speak that much english if any at all."

Less English than perhaps the largest of FKKs, but as shown in the post below more than many others.

"Also the average age of the girls are much older than the early twenties girls you get in the FKKs of Hessen."

While it is true the demographics skew older, there are still enough women in the 20's or early 30's to satisfy, and the degree of affection and passion is, in my experience, much higher than the random Hessen FKK girl. Yes there are some gems in the places with 60+ girls, but it takes a lot of mining to find them. Bernd's offers reliable GFE experiences.

"On the point that some are nterested to hear what is the difference in clientele at Bernd's: what you find is local men."

Yes this is true. And there is a reason for that. Given experience and knowledge of the competition they keep coming back to Bernd's. This is a good, not bad, sign. Yes they are very average looking men, and some are overweight and so on. I'm not sure why this is a concern. I don't go there to look at the men, and the more average the others the better I will look to the girls! (Not that they care all that much one way or another.)

Two days ago I spent 4 hours at Bernd's. Two hours of that I spent with Mara and it felt like I was back in college making love with a coed. A truly wonderful time. The other two hours I spent talking with the girls and other visitors, and I only speak English.

So that's *my* experience. To each his own.

[Gooroox]

The girls are generally non Romanian and they may not speak the english.

As far as nationalities and languages are concerned, here is a brief summary of the ladies' (non-sexual) skills. As I'm fluent in German, I don't need to speak English with them so I'm pretty sure my

1) German SP: Babsie (excellent English) , Angie (basic English) , Jacky (?) , Sofia (?) , Susan (average English) , Kim (?) , masseuse Sandra (basic English)

2) Romanian SP: Erika (basic English) , Tina (basic English) , Valentina (?)

3) Polish SP: Anna (basic English) , Magda (basic English) , Nathalie (?)

4) Other nationalities: Alina (Lithuanian, basic English) , Jenny (Greek, basic English) , Katja (Russian, average English) , Leonie (Brazilian, basic English) , Mara (Dutch, excellent English) , Nicole (Czech,?)

[Yakob]

This is an open answer to some that have not been to Bernd's before. This is not the law, but my own meandering thoughts on a question posed to me.

For many Bernds is a club that is one of the places on one's list to visit. I am no regular at Bernds but I know the drill. I tell myself I will never find the girl I like here but I always leave the club having spent no less than 400 or 500 euro excluding the entry. Somehow Bernds makes me do it when I just click with a girl. Yes, the reviews of the place all seem generally positive, always describing a pretty consistent, high level of service from the girls.

The thing that the non Germans must remember that the girls generally no speak that much english if any at all. This is not Palace where consistenty the girls speak some english. Also the girls are not predominately Romanian where the schooling is english and not German as the second language. The girls are generally non Romanian and they may not speak the english.

For those that wonder: the line-up is never as good looking as the girls at Oase and the other big clubs. You get less than 20 girls here maybe even less. How can that compare to the 80-90 girls that Oase have? Also the average age of the girls are much older than the early twenties girls you get in the FKKs of Hessen.

This then brings me to the clientele that Bernds caters to. The FKKs of Hessen cater for a certain market which is optically good looking girls that provide a standard level of service and in some cases you can get exceptional service. Bernds sets itself up on service levels but does not go out of its way to get the models that you get at Palace or Oase.

On the point that some are nterested to hear what is the difference in clientele at Bernd's: what you find is local men. This is why German is spoken and english is not needed. Oase and Palace cater to the international clientele and is why english is so widely spoken too even from the German girls that work in the clubs. The German clientele of Bernds are to me middle aged to geriatric. They are overweight at best but probably obese really. They are business men and married but come to Bernds for some jiggy since they can and they will. They do not stay all day. They come in and fuck one or two then leave. Bernds is not set up to be an all club. It is somebody's house that has been turned into a brothel. There is not much to do except talk to the hoes and then you need to speak the German.

I hope this helps. Just my opinion to assist the man that posed the question but all can share in the response.

[Yakob]

Maybe it will not be too crowded also because Saturday there are two Christmas parties at Oase and Sharks.

I think that the mens that go to Oase and Sharks differ to the men that go to Bernds.

[Indi Companion]

I've been there before but am skeptical about the Christmas party. I hope you are right. We will see tomorrow.

Maybe it will not be too crowded also because Saturday there are two Christmas parties at Oase and Sharks.

[Neurosynth]

I've been there before but am skeptical about the Christmas party. I hope you are right. We will see tomorrow.

[Indi Companion]

I was planning to go to Bernd's this Friday, the only day I'm free to go on this trip. Now I see it's the day of the Christmas Party. Has anyone been to one of these? It's a small place and I fear that it will be overly crowded and a generally less sexy experience than usual.

Never been for Christmas Party at Bernds but for sure I would like!

Man in my opinion it may be the experience of a life, a total and perfect sexual debauchery, do not think about such things like overcrowded when you are talking about Bernds, I have been there in overcrowded moments with maybe 40 men around and no lockers available but the girls there are always a lot of fun and they know very well how to entertain a crowd!

Only suggestion, do not go there on such a day if you are not a fun of public sex, for sure waiting for a room could be long but there you can make very easily up for that using the wide and comfortable couches or whatever other place within that house! LOL!