FKK Bernd's - Schieferhof

[Boomer10]

My German speaking ability is still miserable, though not for lack of trying. Now I know Babsi, and Valentina's (spoke to her yesterday) English is excellent. Who else is in the Bernd's lineup is English-capable? Particularly interested in Magda and Sandy, assuming the latter returns to the Hof.

Mara and Susan also speak English.

[Bukudala]

My German speaking ability is still miserable, though not for lack of trying. Now I know Babsi, and Valentina's (spoke to her yesterday) English is excellent. Who else is in the Bernd's lineup is English-capable? Particularly interested in Magda and Sandy, assuming the latter returns to the Hof.

It's been a really long three years so I'm looking forward to plowing as much of the field as possible later next month.

Naturally, will tell all when I return.

If anyone can figure out how to set up an FKK paradise here in the US, you won't need to play the lottery, ever.

[Angus Magee]

So have fun guys and take care of your own dick. Its hard to get rid of hiv, only if you die the hiv is dying too!

Great.

But this is the Bernds thread and so this post is totally off topic and inappropriate to be posted here. Will be reporting it in the hopes of having it removed. If you have to school us all on the world AIDS conspiracy, in future please do so in the "Truth about AIDS" thread where I am sure we will find it all very interesting.

So please here, just let it go and report on Bernds, nothing else.

AM

[Phiphi]

All guys and ladies who read this!

First off all, its fantastic to fuck without condom, so why should we condemm other if they do that, inclusive the girls of bernds.

BUT: what I read here a lot and also on freircafe and on ijsberenforum (the dutch version) , that people know aht other do if they are not in the room? Strange to get conclusions out of that.

Second: how nice that an individual experience by bernds was a fuck in the ass or pussy without condom,

Third: I think its pretty nasty and rude to use the following premieses as 'the truth ' for all the girls of Bernds' My friend told me that he fucked with all girls in bernds and they do it without, so from thats premises it follows so many girls in Bernds fuck without condom if you pay 50 extra!

Four: The premisse that is true : every three weeks a medical research on disease is taken place in Bernds, so from that premisse its follows that the girls in Bernds protect themselves very well against sexual diseases likes hiv, chlamidya, gonnoroe, syfflis, hepatitus be, because the docter will find very fast the disease and will give medical treatment for that.

Five: if one of the girls has a disease like hiv then the medical treatment will start very soon, and proabably she will stop working. Its very confrontating the have sex if you that you have hiv. Besides that if the girl in theory wil continue with sexwork and the docter give medical treatment, tha chance that you will get hiv if the girl is fucking without is very little, , almost zero, because the medical treatment helps to get the viral load in the blood down very fast.

Six: so whatver happens, with or without condom, the regualr tests in Bernds gives me a very safe feeling, because if you are there on a Wednesday for example and the girls are waiting for the guy you know he is a docter, then I fuck with a condom and with a very good feeling she may take my seed in her mouth. I do not have that feeling with other clubss, why? Some clubs you feel the air of criminals' and that never is a sign of being very honest, and I know that is also a false premises, because criminals can also fuck with condom and lead a business in which they ask the girls to show a test before they start to work. But in Bernds I have the feeling that a woman is leading the business and the woman is not a criminal. That feels more safe for me, sorry for the bad guys who read this and trying hard to be honest again after doing some criminal acts. But that how it works we are with prejedices.

But. The responsabilty for diseases you can get by fucking and als sucking are not away if the condom breaks for example.

My responsabily is: fucking in a club with a condom in a club.

I Wonder if there are clubs in germany were you have such a regular tests? Mayne thats interesting to find out and writing it here on this sexguide,

I have seen once girls in acapulco waiting for the docter, I know its happens lso in fun garden in emmerich and in fkk van goch in goch. Because a docter it traveling there form one club to another. Maybe somebody knows what is haepping in other clubs,

So have fun guys and take care of your own dick. Its hard to get rid of hiv, only if you die the hiv is dying too!

[Hessen Bub]

Let's just say that AO (BBFS) is easier to get at Bernd's than at other FKK clubs. And get back to topic. If you don't want to fuck without condom, don't do it.

HB

[Neurosynth]

Well yes, my report is purely anecdotal and just barely a single data point. In my personal experience broken condoms result in something other than a completely uncaring neutral response. Put another way, in my experience if a woman simply doesn't care at all that a condom broke, then it's more likely she doesn't care all that much whether you use one in the first place. That is my only personal experience with Bernd's in this regard. However, based on info from others here and elsewhere I believe AO is more common at Bernd's than other FKK's. This is certainly what German language sites report where reporting on such things is allowed.

[Dreams]

Why does her reaction lead to your conclusion? What evidence do you have to make the statement,"Most working girls will freak out when this happens."?

Consider this:

Condoms break on a regular basis (I've seen reports as many as 1 in 250). If that rate is true, suppose the working girl you were with sees 5 clients a day / 5 days a week. She could / should expect a condom to break about every 10 weeks. If the she sees 10 clients a day, the breakage rate would be about 1 every 5 weeks. If the girl has been working a number of years, as many of the girls at Bernd's have, a condom breaking wouldn't necessarily be an event to "freak out" over. I suspect it's just a risk she accepts for being in the business.

There's a theory in social science that proposes the idea that each individual believes he is normal and his beliefs are shared by the vast majority of the population. That's why liberals democrats and conservative republicans believe that other side is so far out on the fringe. The truth is neither is close to the center but neither is as close to the wacko fringe as the other believes. In this case, I suspect you were projecting your "normal" response on the girl without considering her "normal".

The girl you were with may go AO with every second guy that walks through the door, I don't know that and neither do you. I just don't think your conclusion is the mostly likely one considering the description of the event.

I have had broken condoms twice in my long mongering life. I did not experience any freaking out of any of the girls. I guess it depends on the plae, girl, man etc.

When any event happens, politicians can use it as an argument in favor of their theories. That is what has happened in that helpless discussion about AO in Bernds.

Let us not play politics and stick to factual reports and let memebers draw their own conclusions.

[Boomer10]

The one time (within the last year) I visited I didn't pursue AO but I did have an experience that led me to believe it was as common as it is rumored to be. I was in the middle of a very vigorous fuck when suddenly things felt even much better. After a number of strokes I realized the condom had broke! I pulled out and apologized. Most working girls will freak out when this happens. But this girl just kind of shrugged and said "that's ok. Don't worry about it." She then took off the broken condom, but on a new one, and we went back at it. That said to me that she probably goes AO with regularity.

Why does her reaction lead to your conclusion? What evidence do you have to make the statement,"Most working girls will freak out when this happens."?

Consider this:

Condoms break on a regular basis (I've seen reports as many as 1 in 250). If that rate is true, suppose the working girl you were with sees 5 clients a day / 5 days a week. She could / should expect a condom to break about every 10 weeks. If the she sees 10 clients a day, the breakage rate would be about 1 every 5 weeks. If the girl has been working a number of years, as many of the girls at Bernd's have, a condom breaking wouldn't necessarily be an event to "freak out" over. I suspect it's just a risk she accepts for being in the business.

There's a theory in social science that proposes the idea that each individual believes he is normal and his beliefs are shared by the vast majority of the population. That's why liberals democrats and conservative republicans believe that other side is so far out on the fringe. The truth is neither is close to the center but neither is as close to the wacko fringe as the other believes. In this case, I suspect you were projecting your "normal" response on the girl without considering her "normal".

The girl you were with may go AO with every second guy that walks through the door, I don't know that and neither do you. I just don't think your conclusion is the mostly likely one considering the description of the event.

[Neurosynth]

The one time (within the last year) I visited I didn't pursue AO but I did have an experience that led me to believe it was as common as it is rumored to be. I was in the middle of a very vigorous fuck when suddenly things felt even much better. After a number of strokes I realized the condom had broke! I pulled out and apologized. Most working girls will freak out when this happens. But this girl just kind of shrugged and said "that's ok. Don't worry about it." She then took off the broken condom, but on a new one, and we went back at it. That said to me that she probably goes AO with regularity.

Anyway I will definitely be going back next time in Germany. Will I take the AO option? It's not the smart thing to do. But I'm not sure I'll have the will power not to now that I know it's so available.

[Yakob]

last time i heard something (very distant, through the grapevines) of sandy she was working in a champagne-bar in cologne called saphir. i am rooting she will return like magda did.

have fun!

it okay. last time i speak to her she was working in the windows in groningen in the north of the netherlands. now she return to germany to koln. maybe she come back to bernds. she is wild in bed and make me do things i would not normally do. one time i spend 4 hours (8 rooms) with her in the room. she would not let me leave alive!!

[Dreams]

Just to clarify things in my mind, are saying you have second hand knowledge from someone you don't personally know (the newbie)? Sounds good to me, no reason to doubt that line of thought.

I was talking with one of the girls about my first visit. She has pretty detailed memories of it, as I do. The funny thing was the details were completely different.

Stand by to be further amazed, I've been visiting Bernd's for about 7 years and I've never asked about AO and it's never been offered. I'd be surprised if it's not offered and accepted at sometime but I have no first hand knowledge. And for the most part, I don't care. I'm reminded of a line from War Games. Joshua says,"the only winning move is not to play". You want to be completely safe, don't play. Everyone needs to set their limits / level of comfort and not go beyond them (and avoid any girl who forces AO on you).

Totally agree with you, and my experience is similar, never been offered, nor asked for AO. But as you said, I am sure it can be had, at Bernds as much as elsewhere. Just plain info from a real punter, not second hand rumours.

We already had exactly the same debate here a few weeks back. Can't we close it now and move back to reports about girls, service, or even food (!)? We now everyone's position, and each member can now make his own judgment and believe who and what he wants to believe.

[Rob Raunch]

then i saw a vision walk by. young, slim, petite, a cup breasts, long black hair, bright blue eyes, high cheek bones and a pretty smile. totally naked except for her bright red shoes. i am stunned by a stunner in bernds.

they have put up pictures of valentina in their picture-gallery, this girl is not shy. i believe it is not allowed to post a link right here so go their website, select "news", on the next page second line it says "fotos! : valentina, erica. und viel mehr" click on the [link]. you can click on a picture to enlarge ist.

last time i heard something (very distant, through the grapevines) of sandy she was working in a champagne-bar in cologne called saphir. i am rooting she will return like magda did.

have fun!

[Breadman]

Just to clarify things in my mind, are saying you have second hand knowledge from someone you don't personally know (the newbie)? Sounds good to me, no reason to doubt that line of thought.

You want to be completely safe, don't play. Everyone needs to set their limits / level of comfort and not go beyond them (and avoid any girl who forces AO on you).

The term 'newbie' was being applied to the guys first visit to the club, not his experience in Germany. No, he's well known by myself and others here. Again, I'll stand by what I know AO is readily available at Bernds by a large percentage of the women who work there.

Actually Schieferhof IS known as a location with a significant number of girls (or rather women) do offer BBFS. It's not openly spoken about, Schieferhof is not officially an AO-club, but it is a fact that for 50€ this is an extra available with some girls.

BBFS happens at all clubs, but that's another story.

HB

[Yakob]

I made a pilgramage to Bernds during the recent Rabatt deal. I arrived, paid the 50€ to Conny then I just sat around the lounge with drink taking in the line up. There was Babsi, Mara, Erica when I was first in the lounge. There were a few others but I did not know them well. Sandy was sadly missing. I like fucking Sandy. She is so naughty.

Then I saw a vision walk by. Young, slim, petite, A cup breasts, long black hair, bright blue eyes, high cheek bones and a pretty smile. Totally naked except for her bright red shoes. I am stunned by a stunner in Bernds. A guy books the girl and she is gone. I am crestfallen. I go downstairs and make a tour of what is happening with the downstairs girls.

I then had some food in the dining room and felt sated.

It was a lovely day and so there was time spent in the garden taking in the sun with a cool drink. I chatted to some tourists and gave them some tips of other clubs in the area that they could go to besides Bernds. It was their first time at Bernds. It is not what they expected. A few of the girls come out into the garden.

Then the vision comes out into the garden for a cigarette. She is a young petite beauty. I make eye contact. Her charming smile melts my heart. Her blue eyes shrouded by long straight black hair are tantalising. She invites me to come sit with her at the table next to the barbeque. Her name is Valentina and she used to work in London as an escort. She has been 3 weeks in Bernds and is liking it. She does not like the big fuck factory clubs. Erica is her friend. I practise my knowledge of her home tongue on her. She thinks it is cute.

I book Valentina for the room and she goes gets a key. We head upstairs and spend "3 rooms" together. I love what this girl does. DFK, BBBJ, BLS, handjob more than blowjob as sucks tip mainly, allows body to body rubbing, DATY, Pussy and anal touching. Some sex. COB finish. Valentina asks if I would like to take two girls with her friend Erica.

I take a break and sit in the sun again. I realise that Bernds is under a flight path as I play a game of naming the airlines of the planes that fly over the garden. The small garden is a focus point with girls and men sunbathing and relaxing.

The barbeque is lit and girls and customers gather around to break bread together. There is sausages, pork steaks and pork slices with salads. The sun goes down.

I see a large man take Valentina to the room and it feels kinky such a pretty innocent looking girl doing such a man.

Later, I am sitting in the lounge. I see Erica and Valentina sitting together. I go sit down in between them and mind my own business. Well, to be honest, I was not really. I could not keep my eyes off Valentina. I then decide to do a duo with Erica and Valentina since my friend say Erica is good. I tell Erica this and Erica kisses me with tongues, then she just opens my towel and gives me a blowjob on the couch. Valentina takes over kissing duties. Valentina then gets up to go find a room while Erica cannot stop sucking my cock. I have to push Erica off my cock so we can move to the room to join Valentina.

We go to the room and then it is wild. I sweat with all the physical activity. I get kissed, body licked, perform DATY on them both, double girl blowjob, blowjob by one as the other sits on my face or kisses me and then they swap positions, more double girl blowjob. Then we fuck. I fuck Erica first doing her in three positions and then change straight for Valentina for 3 positions. I take a break. Get more blowjob and then perform COB finish on Valentina. Remainder of time is chatting, massage and mutual touching. 2 rooms each.

After my shower, I take a break again for like a few minutes.

In the lounge I find myself sitting with Valentina again. I fiddle with her and next thing I know we are going to the room again. More fun. COB finish. 1 room charge.

It is late and Bernds is going to close soon. So I say my farewells but Valentina is in the room when I go so no good bye kiss from her. Into the night.

In the car, my friend teases me that we go back to Bernds the next day. I say another time.

I miss Sandy too.

[Boomer10]

I'm just reporting on what I saw and heard from a newbie to the club, every girl he did was AO. Had nothing to do with him being a regular, I was standing right next to him when he paid and I heard every one of his stories after he got out of the room. Your more than welcome to weave your own tales to make the AO reporting go away, but I'll stand by my information. Others here have come forward and said the same thing, AO is readily available at this club. I'm actually amazed that all these regulars of Bernds are reporting never to have been offered AO from any of the girls.

Just to clarify things in my mind, are saying you have second hand knowledge from someone you don't personally know (the newbie)? Sounds good to me, no reason to doubt that line of thought.

I was talking with one of the girls about my first visit. She has pretty detailed memories of it, as I do. The funny thing was the details were completely different.

Stand by to be further amazed, I've been visiting Bernd's for about 7 years and I've never asked about AO and it's never been offered. I'd be surprised if it's not offered and accepted at sometime but I have no first hand knowledge. And for the most part, I don't care. I'm reminded of a line from War Games. Joshua says,"the only winning move is not to play". You want to be completely safe, don't play. Everyone needs to set their limits / level of comfort and not go beyond them (and avoid any girl who forces AO on you).