FKK Oase - Burgholzhausen

[Samplerr]

I never understood her motivation to be so unrealiable and say she was coming but never say slreh I am not comi g which would save me waitong and fretting about her arrival and declining other girls as options waiting for her.
There was times when I was in the club and I get messages saying sje was on her way and she kept confirming her attendance and never turn up. Her friends all said that she told them sje was coming to work and she would not sjow.
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A big factor in why many of these girls are on the game is their general flakiness. Hooking and porn are the default gig for girls who can't hack a regular job, especially if they like to indulge in a few substances during working hours.

[Syzygies]

Since I was there for the experience and I was now in my 50's, it was more important to me to have a few good experiences than to have sex with several different girls.

Bijou,

Interesting report that shows that Newbies can have a pretty good time, although its likely your requirements were varied from average customers. Obviously a report for other potential newbies to read.

You are perhaps a little bit long winded about your personal travel circumstances and reasons, rather than just reviewing Oase. Also would have been nice to include something about specific girls and how good they were (or otherwise), or whether they could be recommended. It is not quite clear what your "few good experiences" meant. I guess you are like Bill Clinton and don't regard a BBBJ as "sex". LOL Slightly confused by your text that I quoted.

Yes it is possible to save some Euros as you indicate by arriving before the cut off time, which is certainly what most of us would do. Friedrichsdorf mostly does have taxis available at the time you needed them.

Since you seem to have a had a good time, I doubt that Sharks would have been vastly different for you, other than it is a bigger in terms of open space, and probably has more girls and customers right now, but not higher quality of girls for looks in my opinion.

Oase does have a relax area if you happened to arrive a bit early. Guys could even sleep there.

I only became aware of ISG after I started attending FKK and was told about it by a Palace customer. So my first FKK visit (not in Frankfurt) was having no idea what it was about, or how it worked. LOL Thought it was going to be vaguely like a Tabletop club, because an advertisement said "tabulose" (which turns out actually means lacking taboos LOL) but was proved very very wrong, and it was a nice surprise. One slim blonde model I did on my first FKK visit invited me to go watch her shave her pussy in the shower. It was a very nice touch. LOL Approx. 2003 or 2004.

I did not have the impediment of too any preconceptions about FKK, and initially I did not know anything about the "big" clubs.

I guess you might be needing more than one day next time. LOL What I liked specially when I first started was clubs had several girl nationalities and origins. Good variety. Exotic girls.

[Bijou]

Traveling from the US, I deliberately made 1 day layovers in Frankfurt en route and in return from Dubai so that I could experience the FKK scene for the first time. My initial plan was to go to Oase on my first layover on 12/13 and then to Sharks on my return layover on 12/21. However, for a variety of reasons I did not go to an FKK on my return trip through Frankfurt.

I had been a lurker on the FKK boards for some time but with an upcoming trip through connecting through Frankfurt, I read the Frankfurt FKK boards more intently for several prior months leading up to my trip, posting some questions that were graciously answered by the veterans of the FKK scene. Eventually I decided on Oase and Sharks for my initial visits from the Frankfurt area big 5 (Oase, Sharks, Mainhatten, Palace, World), primarily because of the information I could gather from these boards gave me the sense that these two places would be better for a first timer. However, I didn't make it to FKK Sharks.

I had stayed at an AirBNB place near the Frankfurt airport mainly because I had an early arrival from US and wanted an early check in option, hotels wanted to charge significantly more for early check in, and I didn't want to visit my first FKK without resting for some time. I ended up resting longer than I planned and I headed out around 4 pm, took the S5 from the main train station and exited at the Bad Humburg station. I realize I could have exited at the Friedrischdorf station, but reading that it was an "open" station with no overhead covered areas, possibly having to wait for taxis and because it was raining when I arrived, I just decided to get off at Bad Humburg station which is an actual building covered station and taxis readily available upon exiting from the station. I was quoted 20 E by taxi driver to go to Oase, which then took about 25 minutes because of some traffic. The taxi driver received a 10 E commission right in front of me from Oase upon my arrival. (I wonder if the entry is 60 E if not arriving by taxi?.) I ended up arriving after 5 pm and so was not able to get the reduced entry and end up having to pay 70 E to enter. As a newbie, I'm not sure that there was a way to avoid using the taxi to arrive at Oase from either train station, unless you hire a car. When I left Oase around 10 pm, reception called a taxi for me, it had stopped raining and I headed to the Friedrishdorf station for 10 E and about 10 minutes. This was an open station, a few taxis were available, but I felt I made the right call in getting off at Bad Humburg station on my arrival.

In reading the FKK Oase board prior to my arrival, I was put off reading about the aggressiveness of the girls, the up-selling in the rooms, and not delivering as agreed upon. In fact, I had thought of skipping the FKKs completely based on reading this and just saving my time, money and energy for Dubai, but since the FKK experience was something I wanted to check off my bucket list, I decided to go. I was pleasantly surprised. As I soon as I sat down, several girls would come and introduce themselves, but not in a hardcore aggressive way that I had expected. Even when the same girls approached me later a second or third time, it really wasn't in an annoying way. Many had asked if they could sit for a few minutes with me, which I allowed the ones I was interested because this gave me time to check potential chemistry in the rooms without actually having to commit to taking them. The ones I wasn't interested in, I just said that politely that they weren't my type and they moved away without any drama. Personally, of all the up-selling possibilities, the only requirement I had was that of BBJ (not with CIM, COF, COB) and I made it clear that if I took them for 30 minutes for the 50 E, if they were good at BBJ I would keep them for the hour, but with the 100 E hour rate and nothing additional. Since I was there for the experience and I was now in my 50's, it was more important to me to have a few good experiences than to have sex with several different girls. My strategy worked as I had only good experiences and no disappointments or frustration. BTW- I watched an older guy getting a BBJ on the couch by the theater area. I was told you could do that for the same 50 E 30 minute rate or the 100 E 1 hour rate and that you could even split the time between the couch and a room.

Regarding the club itself, it was very impressive to a newbie with no other comparisons. The locker room was clean for the most part, I liked the bar area, the eating area, and the Jacuzzi area. There is a "money" locker to the right when you walk in from the reception where you can store small items and have easy access to your money without walking down the stairs to the main locker room. The food wasn't great, but edible and was included in the entry as well as nonalcoholic drinks. There are some tables outside the Jacuzzi area where I was able to just sit back and relax, but a few girls that I had previously talked to did come by and check on me. There apparently is a sleeping area upstairs next the restaurant (accessed in back corner of where the Jacuzzi is) and there are saunas, but I didn't go to either area. The outside courtyard looked impressive and during summer months, seems like would be a good area to relax. Alcoholic drinks were 10 E (get tokens from reception) and although most girls don't drink, I did buy 1 drink for 1 girl. The rooms were also comfortable and had mirrors that added to the whole experience with some rooms being "smaller" than others, but still not cramped.

The girls themselves impressed me since I prefer the slim / athletic bodies and the girl next door look in the "7" rating scale. I don't chase after "stunners" and, in fact, I didn't see any during my visit. I did see a few "8's", but didn't chase them either because either they seemed to have more of attitude or just gave me the wrong vibe. (I think one of them may be the same girl described in one of the negative posts below). I didn't go looking for any specific girls named on this board, primarily because I believe in the YMMV concept and I need to feel a girl out myself to decide. From what I can recall, there were many Romanians, some Hungarians, a girl from Cameroon by way of Paris, a German girl, a few Asians, and I think 1 from Russia. Romanians were predominant (and happily met my preferences). All except 1 Romanian spoke good English. BTW for all newbies, the girls are naked in the club except for the eating area, except if its a theme lingerie night. There is a "day" shift and a "night" shift with some girls overlapping. I believe the night shift starts at 8pm.

So, overall, my first FKK experience was a success and I'm glad I didn't bypass the FKKs all together from reading some of the negatives on this board. Although I now am able to check off something on my bucket list, coming from US, I don't see myself taking a whole week or so going on a "FKK tour", but if future travel plans go through Germany, then I would arrange a layover en route and in return so that I could spend some more time in the same or different FKKs. For those that have easier access to the FKKs by living in closer proximity, I can certainly see the value in FKKs over other types of establishments. For Oase, I would recommend arriving before 4 pm to take advantage of the reduced entry fee and if needing to take a taxi, do so from the Friedrischdorf station (weather permitting) -- this alone would save 30 E before walking in the door. Maybe there are other secrets that FKK vets can share.

Hopefully, this report will be useful to other newbies to the FKK scene, or at least newbies to FKK Oase.

[Syzygies]

In 2012 or 2013, there was this girl Isabella at Oase. Very slim, brunette, straight hair with a shortish cut, like some modern day Cleopatra. Fucked her on the couches in the kino, one of my first public sex acts ever. Never found her again. Wonder where she has disappeared. Would have loved to see her again.

This is not Sirioja's Isabella who was medium blonde not Cleopatra cut if I remember right. Also not the very well known long term Polish blonde Isabella retired now and certainly not very slim.

In May 2014 I listed an Isabella who probably matched your description, and had worked briefly in Sharks as "Ester" with her friend (also moved to Oase) beforehand. I believe she was dark brunette and very slim like you say. She did not last in Oase much longer I believe.

I also noticed Ester and friend Jirena? Moved from Sharks and now called Isabella and Ionella?

Isabella was a bit scrawny for my taste so indeed very slim, but TankTank implied he liked her look, I thought, unless his post was an ironical question.

8 Apr 2014:

And on my prior visit, there was Isabella, with a cleapatra like hair cut, pretty with a stunning figure.

From 2012:

My buddy M from Italy did Isabella and rated her quite highly. I mean to try her soon after chatting to her yesterday and I got a good vibe from her. Looks a bit similar to Ebru (Turkey) but more lively, slightly prettier, and slimmer with very hot bottom and small but good tits. Has a small nose diamond on left side.

Didn't strike me as looking typically Indian exactly, but I can see why somebody might say that, having seen some models / stars from a Bollywood movie.

[Syzygies]

You can say that again.

Not even the girl can guarantee that she will be there.

These are still nice girls and I don't blame them too much for lying. Sure it is disappointing that I missed them, but clubs are full of other girls, even when you miss your special favorites.

A few thoughts.

I don't believe you should be collecting contact info for girls so very fast. Wait till you know a girl quite well, and know that she is a no bullshit sort of girl. Could save you a lot of grief. I have not had a great deal of problems from girls I could contact, if any at all. Okay Once a long while back one asked for funds to enable her to get to the club to work. Only the one girl. So she was an unreliable choice. Naturally she did not show up at that time. LOL I had other girls of greater interest I am sure.

Better girls will general say they are not sure about their future attendance. They don't have crystal balls, that they can promise 100%.

2nd, nothing is absolutely guaranteed. I have been to see a girl only to find some customer has booked her for 8 hours. That is almost worse than her not showing up at all.

It is definitely preferable to have several target girls if at all possible, to reduce chances of all targets failing.

At some point I have had a girl who would text me on arrival at a club, so I did not have to waste entry unless was guaranteed she was present, assuming she is not a liar.

Unfortunately, due to being so slow to get any contact info for certain great girls, sometimes they disappeared never to be heard of again, so no means of checking what happened to them. I don't like to pester girls with messages anyway.

Once got some fake messages from a girl. A customer had stolen her phone, and suddenly the messages became grammatically better than before but misinformation.

If you meet a bullshitty type of girl, by all means have sex and fun, but don't bother communicating with her by message.

We all know girls are telling a lot of lies about their whereabouts. So better not to ask awkward questions. Just she can message me when she is working in Oase. Sometimes girls tell their location to more than one customer, and each gets a different story, then to guess which guy she does not lie to. So even when a well known poster specifies the girl location, he could be wrong. Probably the girl does not want to say which place the pimp/husband made her work in. LOL

Very dangerous to travel long distance specifically for just one girl. Maintain a harem of possible girls.

[Member #4585]

I feel you man. I have been there too.

My case was a German girl I quite liked a lot.

She would say she was going to work on X date and say so periodically up to the day I came then go radio silent when I arrived at the club. Her usual practice was this, confirm all week prior she is to work then no reaction on tje day she is meant to work even if it waa a lucrative weekend work day.

I never understood her motivation to be so unrealiable and say she was coming but never say slreh I am not comi g which would save me waitong and fretting about her arrival and declining other girls as options waiting for her.

There was times when I was in the club and I get messages saying sje was on her way and she kept confirming her attendance and never turn up. Her friends all said that she told them sje was coming to work and she would not sjow.

She was such a dissapointment.

You can say that again.

Not even the girl can guarantee that she will be there.

One of my special girls was supposed to meet me in the club this one time. I had met her the night before for a long session and of course several other times prior to that. I went to the club at 7 PM, which was our rendezvous time. She was not in. Waited and waited. Talked to her roommate, who was not sure where she was. Finally texted her, and she texts back that she is a bit late but will see me soon. 9 PM and still no girl. Finally at 10 PM she texts to say she is not coming (although she sleeps at the club itself and was literally less than 100 feet away) because something came up. All this time I was faithfully waiting for her, and passed on several other girls.

Another time, another girl said I will see you in the club in an hour. It was my first day of my German trip on that particular occasion. She was also on a holiday. We texted each other that morning, me after landing in Germany and she said she was getting into the plane in Romania. At 4 PM she says I am here, will see you soon. Well, 7 PM and I am in the club and she is not there. Not at 8 or 9 PM. Never mind that day, that whole week she is not there, still in Romania, as it turned out. Why she felt compelled to lie and say "I am here and will see you in an hour" is beyond me.

These are still nice girls and I don't blame them too much for lying. Sure it is disappointing that I missed them, but clubs are full of other girls, even when you miss your special favorites.

[Jmioffe]

Why she felt compelled to lie and say "I am here and will see you in an hour" is beyond me.

I feel you, been in your shoes. But your story could be a good reminder that's there's no great benefit for these girls to update us on their whereabouts.

We're just johns, and even worse if you're not a local john. Maybe you get along with her and you're a sure 50 E, 100 E or 250 E, but that's just a fraction of what she pulls in, especially if you're only there periodically. On the other hand, if you were a regular, a missed appointment might be less tragic. Such is the situation of the fly-in client.

Maybe she really didn't plan to go in, but if circumstances changed and she had to, it would be convenient to have a sure thing waiting for her, who wouldn't hold it against her if she no-showed.

It's a client-provider relationship. If my masseuse or barber or lawyer or accountant had plenty of fans and could see me whenever they felt like, with no consequences, they probably would be just as cavalier.

Or maybe, she's just flaky like a lot of young women are. She may have liked having this small power over you.

[Turgid]

Blasenpolitzei, be afraid, be very afraid.

Perhaps there is something I am missing with the implementation of the new law on July 1. The only problem I see is if a SP intends to give the establishment some problems perhaps because management took the side of a customer instead of her. What may happen is that management would be more inclined to side with a SP even if she is in the wrong. My one experience has been that that is the case at Oase in any event.

[Beffen1]

On line with your comments, I don't expect big changes the 1st of July, who can control what is happening inside the room?

Blasenpolitzei, be afraid, be very afraid.

[Sirioja]

In 2012 or 2013, there was this girl Isabella at Oase. Very slim, brunette, straight hair with a shortish cut, like some modern day Cleopatra. Fucked her on the couches in the kino, one of my first public sex acts ever. Never found her again. Wonder where she has disappeared. Would have loved to see her again.

On Summer 2013 , my beloved Isabella, her name in Hessen, was at Oase, often with Laura / Livia, on beginning of 2014 they moved to Sharks, Juicy stayed at Oase.

After 1 July 2017, BBBJ will remain in YY NL, for only 50 , on the border, Austria and of course my beloved Switzerland, at the moment 63 CHF /30 mn at Westside, small Globe brother, very close to the border. Also really great History with only 15/20 girls, close to the border and 70 kms from Freiburg.

[Sirioja]

Same for me: in Globe I spend much more money on a day than in Oase / Sharks, and most of time I am very happy to do this given the service attitude of the girls. Strangely I also experience similar high service in smaller clubs like Luder Lounge, Neby and Babylon, but for much lesser money than in Zurich or Hessen (but given the fact most girls there are lesser in optics, this seems fair and I still happilly pay the Globe premium sometimes to have the best of both worlds!

Always better to say after visiting. Even Globe casting is quite average on December, but I prefer to pay Swiss rates for excellence and beauty, rather than 50 for not kissing GND and I don t enjoy to kiss a girl not attractive for my eyes. 6 girls met at Globe and History, all great GFE. 17 hours spent before going to room on my last visit at Oase and only because Irina. Ru came to me smiling and we spoke Russian. For my 2 last visits at Sharks, I think more than 27 hours spent and only 1 room, fortunately with the prettiest girl.

[Member #4581]

In 2012 or 2013, there was this girl Isabella at Oase. Very slim, brunette, straight hair with a shortish cut, like some modern day Cleopatra. Fucked her on the couches in the kino, one of my first public sex acts ever. Never found her again. Wonder where she has disappeared. Would have loved to see her again.

[ExpatLover]

Yes, the girls at Oase and Sharks for the most part already do everything I could want. Why would I want to pay more at Globe for the same thing? I could understand the attraction if there was something that the Oase girls as a rule didn't do that I could get at Globe, but with few exceptions, the Oase girls all provide everything I could ask for.

With Globe prices what they are, I could use that same money for longer rooms at Oase. On top of that, not only are the room prices higher at Globe, but Globe also has higher entry price. Plus, everything else in Switzerland, including hotels are much more expensive than in Germany.

So, while I've been curious about the Swiss clubs, it looks as if I will have little motivation to venture elsewhere -- at least until the end of the world arrives on July 1st.

On line with your comments, I don't expect big changes the 1st of July, who can control what is happening inside the room?

[Member #4581]

Yes, the girls at Oase and Sharks for the most part already do everything I could want. Why would I want to pay more at Globe for the same thing? I could understand the attraction if there was something that the Oase girls as a rule didn't do that I could get at Globe, but with few exceptions, the Oase girls all provide everything I could ask for.

So, while I've been curious about the Swiss clubs, it looks as if I will have little motivation to venture elsewhere -- at least until the end of the world arrives on July 1st.

Just curious, would you term July 1 the end of the world? Curious if you or others will migrate away from Germany due to the new laws. I guess we are all waiting to see how things shape up in reality at that time and subsequently. I started at the clubs with CBJ in my first few visits, discovered the "joys" of BBBJ, and now will miss them terribly of course, and not sure how I will react in a post modern BBBJ- banned Germany.

[Member #4581]

It is hard for anyone to guarantee that your ?.......is around...... Having a single target girl often leads to disappointment, if have no contact details to make an appointment. Try to collect a few favourite girls and target girls you would like to try, so that there will be some options.

Its always a gamble. Sometimes girls change whether they work day or night shift or take a day off unexpectedly. Even intel obtained from other guys can be misinformation.

You can say that again.

Not even the girl can guarantee that she will be there.

One of my special girls was supposed to meet me in the club this one time. I had met her the night before for a long session and of course several other times prior to that. I went to the club at 7 PM, which was our rendezvous time. She was not in. Waited and waited. Talked to her roommate, who was not sure where she was. Finally texted her, and she texts back that she is a bit late but will see me soon. 9 PM and still no girl. Finally at 10 PM she texts to say she is not coming (although she sleeps at the club itself and was literally less than 100 feet away) because something came up. All this time I was faithfully waiting for her, and passed on several other girls.

Another time, another girl said I will see you in the club in an hour. It was my first day of my German trip on that particular occasion. She was also on a holiday. We texted each other that morning, me after landing in Germany and she said she was getting into the plane in Romania. At 4 PM she says I am here, will see you soon. Well, 7 PM and I am in the club and she is not there. Not at 8 or 9 PM. Never mind that day, that whole week she is not there, still in Romania, as it turned out. Why she felt compelled to lie and say "I am here and will see you in an hour" is beyond me.

These are still nice girls and I don't blame them too much for lying. Sure it is disappointing that I missed them, but clubs are full of other girls, even when you miss your special favorites.