FKK Oase - Burgholzhausen

[GermanBoy 2]

Dear fellows,

After a long time I will be close to Frankfurt next Tuesday. I can not decide if I should visit Oase or Sharks. Its a while that I have been in both, and I like them all. So main question is: where will be the hottest ladies. I love it slim and young. And with minimum of plastics inside the boobs.

Does anybody has an idea which place offers most of these kind of ladies in these days?

Thanks a lot in advance.

[BigBuddy69]

If she is intelligent why she is in a FKK.

For the money maybe?

[Pessimist]

I personally feel that you should not be doing anything in the club out of fear. For the most part, if you conduct yourself in a honest and fair manner, you are also treated the same way in most of these clubs. This is the reason why I prefer FKKs to other mongering destinations. Whereas sex industry is not always run very transparently and professionally in many places, I think we all probably agree FKKs managements are by and large professional guys who are not looking to blatantly scam their male guests.

Coming to this topic, I think that fear of being blacklisted by a group of girls has always struck me as being irrational. It is almost pandering. I mean, a girl or a group of girls may choose to blacklist a guy for a rational or irrational reason, or for a crazy whim of their own. Sensible men can't live in fear of that. I have been focusing more on megaclubs of late. There are 50 or more girls in all of them, often even a hundred, sometimes more. I have never seen all hundred of them ganging up on me or any man. If they ever do, there are plenty of other clubs.

What I have seen is that these girls, just like men, have very little loyalty. Just like I might ditch a regular girl and take her close friend right in front of her eyes, I also had instances where a girl will go with a customer after her friend had a problem with the same guy recently..

To Mr. MacAdonis,

The above comment from me is quite generic and in no way addressing you personally. I didn't mean to imply that you are loathe to walk away from rooms out of fear of getting blacklisted by some girls. I know you have been pretty clear on that. From your tone, it appears you may be quite a bit more experienced than me as well, not that it matters in these issues but just wanted to clarify my comment is not personal.

Thank you.

[ExpatLover]

I'm afraid I don't know any other than this girl and I had never been to any FKK club before 2013 so I cannot say who was there before. I know I had never seen this girl before 2018 and I had quite a lot of visits between 2014 and then. You really cannot miss her. She is a curvy girl with long mousey hair, but the biggest eyes you ever saw and a big beaming smile. And if you've ever been in the room with her you will never forget her clitoris. In 30+ years of doing this I've never touched or seen anything so large. It's very pronounced and she loves it being played with and orgasms easily (perhaps no surprise). You just wouldn't be able to forget it. I would say it is at least double the size of most girls and treble some. She has a delightful manner and is clearly intelligent. Big lips and a wonderful sloppy BBBJ.

If she is intelligent why she is in a FKK, getting fucked many times every day by everyone just ready to pay for it. Intelligent girls are not in a FKK, they have a sugar daddy, or are doing escort, they select their customers, protect their health, physical and mental. Just think about the future in 10 or 15 years of most of those girls.

[PayForIt]

Wow. Like a Turkish seedless grape?

Very similar. A little smaller but no doubt as succulent.

[DaWong949]

I'm afraid I don't know any other than this girl and I had never been to any FKK club before 2013 so I cannot say who was there before. I know I had never seen this girl before 2018 and I had quite a lot of visits between 2014 and then. You really cannot miss her. She is a curvy girl with long mousey hair, but the biggest eyes you ever saw and a big beaming smile. And if you've ever been in the room with her you will never forget her clitoris. In 30+ years of doing this I've never touched or seen anything so large. It's very pronounced and she loves it being played with and orgasms easily (perhaps no surprise). You just wouldn't be able to forget it. I would say it is at least double the size of most girls and treble some. She has a delightful manner and is clearly intelligent. Big lips and a wonderful sloppy BBBJ.

Is she pretty tall compare to others?

[ZimmerBaby]

I'm afraid I don't know any other than this girl and I had never been to any FKK club before 2013 so I cannot say who was there before. I know I had never seen this girl before 2018 and I had quite a lot of visits between 2014 and then. You really cannot miss her. She is a curvy girl with long mousey hair, but the biggest eyes you ever saw and a big beaming smile. And if you've ever been in the room with her you will never forget her clitoris. In 30+ years of doing this I've never touched or seen anything so large. It's very pronounced and she loves it being played with and orgasms easily (perhaps no surprise). You just wouldn't be able to forget it. I would say it is at least double the size of most girls and treble some. She has a delightful manner and is clearly intelligent. Big lips and a wonderful sloppy BBBJ.

Wow. Like a Turkish seedless grape?

[Pessimist]

In my experience (and apparently many others), if you leave after only 2-3 minutes in the room and no services are rendered, the chances of the WG taking you to the front desk are close to zero. However, from speaking to other mongers, it is not always a fear of losing a money dispute at the front desk. Some mongers have expressed fear of being blacklisted by other WGs. Because the WG you "walk out" on will tell all her WG friends. Of course, I feel that fear is unfounded. But they remained convinced.

Just to clarify, each time I walked out of a room, I at most wasted 6-8 minutes of the WG's time. That includes 4-5 minutes walking to and out of the room and 2-3 minutes inside of the room. I generally do not take WGs that I do not know during peak times when there is a room wait. And I do not engage in a lot of pre-zimmer chat.

I personally feel that you should not be doing anything in the club out of fear. For the most part, if you conduct yourself in a honest and fair manner, you are also treated the same way in most of these clubs. This is the reason why I prefer FKKs to other mongering destinations. Whereas sex industry is not always run very transparently and professionally in many places, I think we all probably agree FKKs managements are by and large professional guys who are not looking to blatantly scam their male guests.

Coming to this topic, I think that fear of being blacklisted by a group of girls has always struck me as being irrational. It is almost pandering. I mean, a girl or a group of girls may choose to blacklist a guy for a rational or irrational reason, or for a crazy whim of their own. Sensible men can't live in fear of that. I have been focusing more on megaclubs of late. There are 50 or more girls in all of them, often even a hundred, sometimes more. I have never seen all hundred of them ganging up on me or any man. If they ever do, there are plenty of other clubs.

What I have seen is that these girls, just like men, have very little loyalty. Just like I might ditch a regular girl and take her close friend right in front of her eyes, I also had instances where a girl will go with a customer after her friend had a problem with the same guy recently. Most of these girls are there to make a buck. Some may stay loyal to their friends and blacklist a guy because a friend had a problem with a man, but many of them also will not stay loyal. Heck, I even had girls who for a reason or other were not happy with me for a short time, then came back with tail between legs for business after a few months. In FKKs, it is sex alright but it is business, not personal.

As I said, in the instances when I walked out of the room, even the girl herself was not excessively upset with me. She might not have been thrilled, but not so hugely upset. And I have not been blackballed by her friends because I ditched her at the altar, and if in future such a thing happens, there are a hundred other girls. To me, girls who would act in such a manner are anyway not good service providers, and it is a good thing that they are self selecting themselves away from me.

[PayForIt]

Which Daniella? The one with sillicone and was at Oase already 2011 without sillicone?

I'm afraid I don't know any other than this girl and I had never been to any FKK club before 2013 so I cannot say who was there before. I know I had never seen this girl before 2018 and I had quite a lot of visits between 2014 and then. You really cannot miss her. She is a curvy girl with long mousey hair, but the biggest eyes you ever saw and a big beaming smile. And if you've ever been in the room with her you will never forget her clitoris. In 30+ years of doing this I've never touched or seen anything so large. It's very pronounced and she loves it being played with and orgasms easily (perhaps no surprise). You just wouldn't be able to forget it. I would say it is at least double the size of most girls and treble some. She has a delightful manner and is clearly intelligent. Big lips and a wonderful sloppy BBBJ.

[McAdonis]

You cannot be so afraid of being taken to the front desk that you have to acquiesce to whatever outrageous demands the girl will have. Yes the girl has a pussy but that does not mean you have to be a pussy and give in to her crazy demands just because you entered the room.

In my experience (and apparently many others), if you leave after only 2-3 minutes in the room and no services are rendered, the chances of the WG taking you to the front desk are close to zero. However, from speaking to other mongers, it is not always a fear of losing a money dispute at the front desk. Some mongers have expressed fear of being blacklisted by other WGs. Because the WG you "walk out" on will tell all her WG friends. Of course, I feel that fear is unfounded. But they remained convinced.

Just to clarify, each time I walked out of a room, I at most wasted 6-8 minutes of the WG's time. That includes 4-5 minutes walking to and out of the room and 2-3 minutes inside of the room. I generally do not take WGs that I do not know during peak times when there is a room wait. And I do not engage in a lot of pre-zimmer chat.

[McAdonis]

I have never had cause to walk out of a room after 2-3 minutes.

I walked out after 2-3 minutes for similar reasons to those stated by PFI, Pessimist, and UH. A few times as I was putting on my robe, the WG would start to raise her voice, and say things like "you cannot leave, you have to pay me". I calmly left. Not a single time did they come looking for me, demanding money or demanding that I go to reception with them.

Methinks a girl has to be really bad for a club to expel her knowing how much the club owners love money. That is one less EUR100 per day entrance fee or whatever they pay. They do pay more than we do and they are the reasons we go at all.

Yes, club owners love money. But if it is a top club like Sharks, club owners know that there is a waiting list of WGs who want to work there. If they decide to expel "Anca" or "Anca" decides to quit because she lost several money disputes in a row, guess what? There are a hundred more Romanian WGs who will gladly take Anca's old spot in the Sharks rotation. Translation: Club owners will still get there "EUR100 per day entrance fee", just that it will be from another WG.

At some clubs, you are absolutely correct: the WG has to be really bad before they get expelled from the club. But at the same time, I do not believe that club management fears that occasionally siding with the customer will lead to a mass exodus of WGs. If you are ever by reception, you will notice that WGs win and lose disputes all the time. If they lose, they might storm off, but 99 percent of the time they will not quit. Not at the clubs with lucrative clientele, where the WG knows she is "lucky" to be working at. WGs are young, stubborn, and impulsive, but once their heads clear, they see the bigger picture and do not want to squander the money making opportunity they have in front of them. You seem to be a regular at Sharks. Are you not always remarking about the Asian hunters and how lucrative and easy it is for them? You think those WGs will walk away from that?

[Craiova]

Take the facially beautiful Daniella (Ro.) at Oase, a little curvier than my normal but terrific eyes and smile and service and attitude next to none.

Which Daniella? The one with sillicone and was at Oase already 2011 without sillicone?

[PayForIt]

I have never had cause to walk out of a room after 2-3 minutes. I have got bad attitude and upselling immediately upon entering the room and thought to myself the only way I'll leave is if she refuses to allow my turgid member to enter her portal and that has never happened.

Oceans 2018 I enter the room with a pretty girl. I lie on the bed and ask can we start with a short massage on my legs moving up? She tells me this is an extra 50 e. For this? I tell her I'll find a girl who'll do it for nothing or included in the price, and that I normally stay 2 hours with girls I like. I'm out of the room in the said 2 minutes. She says she wants 50 for the room. I laugh and tell her she hasn't come within a metre of my cock and I've not touched her at all. So no deal and its reception if she asks again, which she didn't. There is bad attitude, upselling and just plain stupidity. Then there are girls with their minds switched on....and there are plenty at Oase despite all the carping about upselling, know how to work the customer to get their cash increased.

Take the facially beautiful Daniella (Ro.) at Oase, a little curvier than my normal but terrific eyes and smile and service and attitude next to none. On my first meeting with her she asked how long I want and before I could get out my normal "let's start with 30 minutes but if the service is good we will be at least an hour", she pushes one finger gently against my lips and tells me "let's go to the room without talking about how long. If you want to leave after 30 minutes while I am still taking you to heaven and pay only 50 that is fine. But you will stay". Absolutely fabulous line. For a start, any doubts about going were gone as I was now too intrigued. We get in the room, she starts with a sensational BBBJ. No mention of upsell, and we ended up in there for 2 hours. Total 250 including an extra. That was the first of my 4 rooms with her. As I said, the girls with their minds on it get their cash. The quick upsell merchants struggle in the end.

[Pessimist]

I have never had cause to walk out of a room after 2-3 minutes. I have got bad attitude and upselling immediately upon entering the room and thought to myself the only way I'll leave is if she refuses to allow my turgid member to enter her portal and that has never happened. As a matter of fact in my 40 plus years of pursuing our hobby that has happened to me only once in India but that's another story.

Methinks a girl has to be really bad for a club to expel her knowing how much the club owners love money. That is one less EUR100 per day entrance fee or whatever they pay. They do pay more than we do and they are the reasons we go at all.

If a girl and a guy have a dispute and approach the mgmt, it is not necessary that one of them has to expel. They will rule in favor of one or other. If the ruling goes against the girl, she will never disobey them openly and leave. If they rule against the guy, he may disagree and refuse to pay up in which case force may be applied. None of these are set in stone.

I have walked out of room in a couple of minutes after entering with a girl a handful of times. It does not happen often but also not so rare. None of those ever led to a situation of having to go to the front desk. You cannot be so afraid of being taken to the front desk that you have to acquiesce to whatever outrageous demands the girl will have. Yes the girl has a pussy but that does not mean you have to be a pussy and give in to her crazy demands just because you entered the room.

[Turgid]

I do not try to make a habit out of it. But I have walked out of the room after 2-3 minutes in the room more times than I count. I have done at Sharks, where the WG is chasing me down the stairs. Regulars noticed it, and remarked about it afterwards, joking that I was a troublemaker.

You are correct that is her word against the customers. But if she is having these type of "her word against the customer's word" disputes twenty times a week, reception is going to start to suspect something. Therefore she is going to save her complaints for those instances when a customer really does something egregious. The inverse is also true. If reception recognizes you as a customer that has a money dispute every third visit, you lose credibility.

At times clubs like Sharks have had 200+ WGs in their lineup. Club management can and will give WGs their walking papers. They simply select from the 50 so WGs that they turned away that week. Exception may be someone like Mandy or Evita who is less replaceable (but I suspect these two superstars rarely have issues with customers). Those two have legions of paying male customers who will take their money elsewhere and Sharks management knows that.

I have never had cause to walk out of a room after 2-3 minutes. I have got bad attitude and upselling immediately upon entering the room and thought to myself the only way I'll leave is if she refuses to allow my turgid member to enter her portal and that has never happened. As a matter of fact in my 40 plus years of pursuing our hobby that has happened to me only once in India but that's another story.

Methinks a girl has to be really bad for a club to expel her knowing how much the club owners love money. That is one less EUR100 per day entrance fee or whatever they pay. They do pay more than we do and they are the reasons we go at all.