FKK Oase - Burgholzhausen

[FuckedUpSwede]

I found this interesting. I totally agree that several ingredients make a 10 not just the optics. And I also agree that smartness and chemistry are 2 big factors. But for me the face is the most critical factor of all. More than the body. I love slim girls with big naturals. Don't we all! But it's easy to compromise if all the other factors are present. So, the facially very pretty Daniella at Oase. Big eyes, brown / highlighted long hair, without question not a 10 in body as if the oft quoted Lorena is "chubby" this tag must fit Daniella. I would say she is undoubtedly carrying too much weight. But her face is very pretty, he attitude, intelligence and critically her service level are all 10 for me. As a result, I often find that I like looking at the optics at Oase, and will openly tell Daniella I would like to have a room or maybe two with a couple of other girls. But that I will end the day with a long session with her. Which I invariably do as she is very much 10/10 in all areas apart from her body. I suspect if she was slim too she wouldn't be in the job as she'the be making her money elsewhere.

It would be fun to take part in a similar discussion between the girls how to rate mongers. Size of wallet vs personal hygiene vs attitude vs body weight vs perverted habits vs returning customer vs what? What factors would be relevant for a girl rating a monger? How would a 10 point monger be constructed?, not that my main goal is to please the girls (I buy a service) but I find the subject interesting.

[PayForIt]

I know almost all your here mentionend Sharks und Oase girls. Taste is an individuell thing but none of them is a 10 for me, most of them are 8's. But as usual you don't know what I am talking about. Optic is only one part for a top class girl, the other necessary two mainparts are service level and behaviour / smartness / chemistry.

And triple LOL many of them are a real service desaster, Sidona service level 5, Zyneb 7 and so on. None of them is even close to a top class girl.

I found this interesting. I totally agree that several ingredients make a 10 not just the optics. And I also agree that smartness and chemistry are 2 big factors. But for me the face is the most critical factor of all. More than the body. I love slim girls with big naturals. Don't we all! But it's easy to compromise if all the other factors are present. So, the facially very pretty Daniella at Oase. Big eyes, brown / highlighted long hair, without question not a 10 in body as if the oft quoted Lorena is "chubby" this tag must fit Daniella. I would say she is undoubtedly carrying too much weight. But her face is very pretty, he attitude, intelligence and critically her service level are all 10 for me. As a result, I often find that I like looking at the optics at Oase, and will openly tell Daniella I would like to have a room or maybe two with a couple of other girls. But that I will end the day with a long session with her. Which I invariably do as she is very much 10/10 in all areas apart from her body. I suspect if she was slim too she wouldn't be in the job as she'the be making her money elsewhere.

[Sirioja]

With all due respect for Sidonia (Sharks) who is a nice and sweet girl, and acknowledging that beauty is in the eye of the beholder, I must say that you have a pretty wide and loose definition of beauty. In my book, she doesn't even pass the 5/10 mark, neither for face nor for the slightly protruded belly nor for height, albeit the nice ass. Of course we can debate about these, but Estephania (Oase, ex Sharks) or Zyneb (Sharks) are also cute GND but not really beautiful or gorgeous in any classical definition of beauty. With your vast experience, I thought your bars are higher than most of us.

For me, Scarlet (Sharks) is a real gorgeous beauty with a perfect bod. Watch her superb full movie star like face when she pulls her hair back or in ponytail; even better when she wears classy shoes, not those standard issue sillicon / plastic hideous shoes. Kate at Globe is also about the same or a bit higher level of beauty. Amira (Dietzenbach) and Bella (Arabella, ex Grimberg) are also real beauty without flaws. New Amanda, Denisa and Micky (all Sharks) are also beautiful but too bad they don't enjoy sex LOL.

Only Ilka was a bit Kate Globe style at Sharks for me, also with chic, elegance and charm, I remember on our first time when she smiled to me, on July 2016, a German guy needed to come to talk to her when we were introducing to each other, I will keep for me what she told me about his behavior and she told me: You come with me, taking my hand, going in the garden, hand in hand, looking at stars at night, caressing her hand, then she said: You are romantic, not a performer in bed, not Kate level for love in bed, but a real woman behavior, so a real pleasure for me and we repeated. I never noticed Scarlet nor Sidonia nor Zeynep at Sharks, my eyes look for a new Megan or Kate or Karin or Agnes. Pol or Ilka, or Andrea. Bu but with higher level for love in bed. I can t understand why really pretty girls would take so much risks working in low level AO RTC, rather than Sharks or Oase or GT where they should get more safe and bigger money business, not only 30 to be cum inside.

[Craiova]

Of course it's a personal choice, but I still think chubby is the word to describe Lorena. Also, probably easier for her to lose 5-7 kilos than extend her legs and body by 10 cm at this age? LOL. In any case, she's definitely a solid addition to the Mauro firm.

No, no if Lorena extend her legs / body by 10 cm, that mean she needs some additional kilos to keep her curvy body. LOL.

[Gino02]

I've never said Lorena is a skinny model. I compared her ass and legs with famous Ramona / Sabina and Ramona / Sabina wasn't a skinny model too, especially at her last weeks at Oase she gained some weight. But I prefer this tpye of woman. Skinny Sharks / Mainhattan / Palace / Oase Yvette is a real exception of my preferred type of woman. Also famous Sharks Paloma ex World Carina was always too skinny for me.

But I wouldn't call Lorena chubby, she is german dress size 37. For me she is a very good looking busty curvy woman e. G. like Kate Upton. So for me no reason to lose weight I would only extend her legs and body about 10 cm.

Of course it's a personal choice, but I still think chubby is the word to describe Lorena. Also, probably easier for her to lose 5-7 kilos than extend her legs and body by 10 cm at this age? LOL. In any case, she's definitely a solid addition to the Mauro firm.

[Craiova]

Still, I keep finding some girls I could rate 10/10 in Germany. ...Sidonia (sharks) are right up there for me. And Oase has some young top top young talent in Estephania, Ina, Leyla etc. Zeyneb and April in Sharks. ... So it is not so dire as people claim.

I know almost all your here mentionend Sharks und Oase girls. Taste is an individuell thing but none of them is a 10 for me, most of them are 8's. But as usual you don't know what I am talking about. Optic is only one part for a top class girl, the other necessary two mainparts are service level and behaviour / smartness / chemistry.

And triple LOL many of them are a real service desaster, Sidona service level 5, Zyneb 7 and so on. None of them is even close to a top class girl.

[Gino02]

Still, I keep finding some girls I could rate 10/10 in Germany. Hannah (aca), and Sidonia (sharks) are right up there for me. And Oase has some young top top young talent in Estephania, Ina, Leyla etc. And I still have my Oceans favourites in Andra, Eleny, Maya etc. And there are others close in quite a few clubs. Meggie at Palace. Meggie (ex Oceans) and Carrie at Artemis. Zeyneb and April in Sharks. Katea at Samya. Lucy (aca). Lily (DV). Etc etc. So it is not so dire as people claim.

With all due respect for Sidonia (Sharks) who is a nice and sweet girl, and acknowledging that beauty is in the eye of the beholder, I must say that you have a pretty wide and loose definition of beauty. In my book, she doesn't even pass the 5/10 mark, neither for face nor for the slightly protruded belly nor for height, albeit the nice ass. Of course we can debate about these, but Estephania (Oase, ex Sharks) or Zyneb (Sharks) are also cute GND but not really beautiful or gorgeous in any classical definition of beauty. With your vast experience, I thought your bars are higher than most of us.

For me, Scarlet (Sharks) is a real gorgeous beauty with a perfect bod. Watch her superb full movie star like face when she pulls her hair back or in ponytail; even better when she wears classy shoes, not those standard issue sillicon / plastic hideous stripper shoes. Kate at Globe is also about the same or a bit higher level of beauty. Amira (Dietzenbach) and Bella (Arabella, ex Grimberg) are also real beauty without flaws. New Amanda, Denisa and Micky (all Sharks) are also beautiful but too bad they don't enjoy sex LOL.

[Sirioja]

Still, I keep finding some girls I could rate 10/10 in Germany. Hannah (aca), and Sidonia (sharks) are right up there for me. And Oase has some young top top young talent in Estephania, Ina, Leyla etc. And I still have my Oceans favourites in Andra, Eleny, Maya etc. And there are others close in quite a few clubs. Meggie at Palace. Meggie (ex Oceans) and Carrie at Artemis. Zeyneb and April in Sharks. Katea at Samya. Lucy (aca). Lily (DV). Etc etc. So it is not so dire as people claim.

Lucky guy for little girls, for sure more Romanians are little girl type, less than 160 bare feet like Ana Velbert, but average face not motivating to enjoy kissing, than with waist, round ass and around 170 full naked and bare feet. Estefania Oase has pretty face, but just look like still at school. Girls who are around 170 with around 50 kg and curves would be more attractive for my desire, even face is the most important to enjoy kissing her, and no really enjoyable sex for me without good kissing. When I see supermodels, taller than 175, like 180 at World or 178 for Rose at GT or 177 for my German escort discovered at Vertigo now Vanilla which is a very different club at night, with long legs, not ass nearly rubbing the floor when bare feet, then like at World, when she entered in restaurant to eat, I felt: I want her and even unfortunately she was not enthusiastic to go in the tree but great GFE in bed with sex machine who killed her on her first room as she said, but I think she would have liked to repeat later. When I enjoy to touch girls face, their make up and hair in bed, erotic games and they usually let me do with my way, but I also enjoy to play with long legs, when killing desire when seeing little girls walking bare feet with ass so close to the floor. Romanian little girls may have a bit of Asia because they usually have short legs.

[ExpatLover]

Unfortunately I have to agree to this statement. But this process that more and more beauties and top class P6 girls don't work anymore in Germany has started already between 2010/12, but with slow speed but slightly increasing from year to year. Main reason for this is very simple. The (top class) girls didn't earn as much as some years before. Averarage club girls earnings was reduced from year to year. For Frankfurt area too many clubs, too many girls and fewer big money spending clients. Till 2012 even small clubs like Atlanta or Bahama had some jackpot clients and top girls make sometimes there a 500 or even 1 k session. Clients like this don't happen in this clubs anymore and therefore you usually don't find beauty top class girls in this clubs anymore. Other problem was the reduction of club entrance fee. Till around 2012 everyone paid 65 Euro entrance fee at Oase, later came even for Oase some special offer and now ten years later I pay usually 50 Euro entrance fee at Oase. The clubs have changend from sexy, horny, get addicted crazy places now to boring senior citzien homes for wellness and all you can eat.

At Oase I see now even Asian clients enjoy relaxing and eating, wellness for hours, that has rarly happend some years before..

For me the big impacts are on 1 side the new law which is reducing the number of new girls entering the business therefor less senior mongers are willing to pay for veteran girls like me, second is the clients are more and more with migration background, coming in groups, being loud, behaving aggressively and this is also pushing out some senior mongers like me. I prefer doing escort, it is more relax.

[Den Haag]

When that is said, I believe prices should go slightly up (not up 100% or something silly). Just to draw more talent. Looking at the new talent comparisons to Wellcum in Austria, and you get my point. 70 e there.

If an extra 20 per half hour would increase the general talent and performance to a level where it used to be say 10 years ago, then I would have no real objection. However, I don't think 70 per half hour is going to make all that much difference. You will more or less have the same girls with the same up-sell etc. IMHO you are going to have to see prices near double before you will see significant difference.

[Sirioja]

Unfortunately I have to agree to this statement. But this process that more and more beauties and top class P6 girls don't work anymore in Germany has started already between 2010/12, but with slow speed but slightly increasing from year to year. Main reason for this is very simple. The (top class) girls didn't earn as much as some years before. Averarage club girls earnings was reduced from year to year. For Frankfurt area too many clubs, too many girls and fewer big money spending clients. Till 2012 even small clubs like Atlanta or Bahama had some jackpot clients and top girls make sometimes there a 500 or even 1 k session. Clients like this don't happen in this clubs anymore and therefore you usually don't find beauty top class girls in this clubs anymore. Other problem was the reduction of club entrance fee. Till around 2012 everyone paid 65 Euro entrance fee at Oase, later came even for Oase some special offer and now ten years later I pay usually 50 Euro entrance fee at Oase. The clubs have changend from sexy, horny, get addicted crazy places now to boring senior citzien homes for wellness and all you can eat.

At Oase I see now even Asian clients enjoy relaxing and eating, wellness for hours, that has rarly happend some years before.

Since I started on end of 2012, it was always difficult for me to find beauties, I left so many times GT or Oase or Sharks, even on few times high level Globe, even Aphrodisia, with full heavy balls, but I hate to waste my money for average look. I have to work hard all over FKK land to find beauties, but good point is I usually make work between us, and I enjoy to repeat, sometimes 3 times on a day, as long she is attractive for me. I had and still find like at Freubad on 2 August, great girls I have pleasure with.

Yes, clients changed at Sharks, World, LR with Turkish and Albanian nights, at Oase with shisha nights, but they make work clubs with bottles when I only pay entry. On the other hand, I may be a better business for my girls, with my tip to repeat on next week end. Times changed, no more Dani at Hanau?

About Sabina, on first time she came to me at Oase, never noticed her at Sharks, she was hunting with another girl, but after our discovery, she never proposed me again a trio. Shining face girl and sweetness, with me.

[Pistons]

Still, I keep finding some girls I could rate 10/10 in Germany. Hannah (aca), and Sidonia (sharks) are right up there for me. And Oase has some young top top young talent in Estephania, Ina, Leyla etc. And I still have my Oceans favourites in Andra, Eleny, Maya etc. And there are others close in quite a few clubs. Meggie at Palace. Meggie (ex Oceans) and Carrie at Artemis. Zeyneb and April in Sharks. Katea at Samya. Lucy (aca). Lily (DV). Etc etc. So it is not so dire as people claim.

[Pistons]

Nice to see you have picked up some of my forum ideas Craiova. Blogging and comparing girls you like to other well known girls. LOL.

When that is said, I prefer girls more slim. Height minus 10 kg unless they go to gym. So a 1. 60 m girl should be 50 kg etc. But if they go to the gym, they can reduce that to height minus 0. So a 1. 60 m girl can be up to 60 kg. But that is on the extreme and requires some odd genes. Normally high physique from gym usually only allows for a 1. 60 m girl to be 55-56 kg. And that is 8 hours gym a week. But this is of course the equilibrium where they take their work and looks to the extreme top. Now light gym 4-5 HR a week with focus on butt exercise would lead to about 53-54 kg on a 1. 60 m girl. Genetic differences plus minus 1-1.5 kg mainly on bone mass.

I agree with you that income has fallen. But so has the income for the bottom 90% of the population. Expendable income of course after monthly expenses. And this is the problem at the core of this. And after a lot of investigation I have concluded that the main reasons for this is two-fold:

- An expansive local governmental budget due to increased immigration from ME and Africa. This leads to increased hidden taxes in several areas.

- Natural capitalistic cycles leading to an increased gap between rich and poor. Basically between the super rich and the rest. At least 90% of the population falls into the latter category. In some countries even 95+ percent.

When that is said, I believe prices should go slightly up (not up 100% or something silly). Just to draw more talent. Looking at the new talent comparisons to Wellcum in Austria, and you get my point. 70 e there.

[Pistons]

Mixing sex and job probably the worst things to do.

Why? Everybody does it. And it is at the very core of any social interaction. Especially in work hearings. I think you may want to reread my post to understand it properly.

[Craiova]

Unfortunately, beauties are rare for my eyes, elegance and charm so rare for my mind, ...

Unfortunately I have to agree to this statement. But this process that more and more beauties and top class P6 girls don't work anymore in Germany has started already between 2010/12, but with slow speed but slightly increasing from year to year. Main reason for this is very simple. The (top class) girls didn't earn as much as some years before. Averarage club girls earnings was reduced from year to year. For Frankfurt area too many clubs, too many girls and fewer big money spending clients. Till 2012 even small clubs like Atlanta or Bahama had some jackpot clients and top girls make sometimes there a 500 or even 1 k session. Clients like this don't happen in this clubs anymore and therefore you usually don't find beauty top class girls in this clubs anymore. Other problem was the reduction of club entrance fee. Till around 2012 everyone paid 65 Euro entrance fee at Oase, later came even for Oase some special offer and now ten years later I pay usually 50 Euro entrance fee at Oase. The clubs have changend from sexy, horny, get addicted crazy places now to boring senior citzien homes for wellness and all you can eat.

At Oase I see now even Asian clients enjoy relaxing and eating, wellness for hours, that has rarly happend some years before.

At the biggest change was the new law. But this seems to be a taboo subject at (german) sex forums, bc. they make their money from club advertising and so. And there is no discussion that the new law at July, 1st 2017 has dramatic worsen the P6 situation in Germany. So that was the last step that many of the remaining top class club P6 girls have left Germany. But at german forums. silence about this bc. the show must go on.

And this meanwhile really ridiculous still 50 euro price system drove out many girls. Now you have to bargain like at a bazaar before the session with new girls about service and price, I don't like this, till some years ago I have never done this.

Clubs, of course I mean legaly the girls (at her union meetings LOL), should officially increase the price system. Clubs should stopp this wellness / all you can eat price system (totoal disaster at FKK Rom and Atlanta, also Bahama) and change back clubs to sex establishments where top girls have the chance to make decent money for this hard job. And club girls should be able for a standard service, I know this is now with new law legally impossible. Now my favorite sentence from club girls in room is: Don`t touch my hair. LOL Sorry this is only a joke anymore.

So therefore you don't find top class beauties only very seldom at German FKK club anymore. We have a new law since two years. And that doesn't only mean BBBJ, other changes more detrimental like this.