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Originally Posted by Shark16
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You do that. Just remember that most girls (INCLUDING the hottest) do it for 100 E /60. It's all up to you.
Ok thanks much Shark 16! I'll start there and go up if she doesn't bite. Glad to hear the hottest will normally do an hour for 100 euros. Works for me! Will report back in October.
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Originally Posted by LuckyNuts
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Think I'll tell the hottest chicas I'll pay 150 for an hour if she can keep me in there that long.
You do that. Just remember that most girls (INCLUDING the hottest) do it for 100 E /60. It's all up to you.
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Originally Posted by McAdonis
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You are correct that is her word against the customers. But if she is having these type of "her word against the customer's word" disputes twenty times a week, reception is going to start to suspect something. Therefore she is going to save her complaints for those instances when a customer really does something egregious. The inverse is also true. If reception recognizes you as a customer that has a money dispute every third visit, you lose credibility.
Exactly. Again very well put. Fiddy, great advice too.
"Game of chicken really". LOL!! Can I nominate that phrase to the "ISG quote of the year for 2019"?
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Originally Posted by FiddyCent
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Hey Lucky Nuts.
Although it has been a couple of years since I visited Oase, many girls will try to extract 100 Euros for 30 minutes for what they call GFE. Not every girl in the club will try this tactic on you, but don't let the girl dictate the terms either. Be firm in your negotiations and don't be afraid to say NO! If you do agree to 100 Euros for 30 minutes of GFE, you are not guaranteed GFE in the room. As they say, YMMV. Instead, I would take a girl for the standard 50 E / 30 minutes and see how she behaves in bed. If you like her, tell her that you will extend to an hour. If by the end of the 30 minutes you do not feel the right chemistry, just cut your losses and move on. Before you even take a girl to the room, interview many girls. You will meet plenty of good girls. Perhaps throw in the promise of CIM, worth +50 Euros to her or ANAL +100 Euros to her. That does not guarantee you good service either. My game plan might be outdated in this club, but I would like the other senior members to weigh in on this and give you some sound advice. Remember, you are the boss! Good luck in your hunt.
FiddyCent.
Thanks for the reply Fiddy and the sage advice. No girl is going to sell me 30 minutes for 100 euros unless she's gorgeous and sucks my bare dick on the way into the room LOL. Think I'll tell the hottest chicas I'll pay 150 for an hour if she can keep me in there that long. If not it's 50 for thirty minutes and we are done.
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Gfe
Originally Posted by LuckyNuts
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I'll soon be making my first FKK visits in Frankfurt so have been reading all the related forums. I see the "GFE" term often mentioned which brings up some questions. Is this a known and common term with the girls in FKKs? I've only ever heard the term used between guys to describe the level of service provided. Do some girls specifically provide a choice of either "standard" service or "GFE" service for different prices? Any particular reason all the prices I see discussed are in 50 euro increments? (50 or 100 or 150 or 200) Wouldn't most girls rather take 80 euros for a 30 minute GFE session than 50 for a standard session? TIA.
Hey Lucky Nuts.
Although it has been a couple of years since I visited Oase, many girls will try to extract 100 Euros for 30 minutes for what they call GFE. Not every girl in the club will try this tactic on you, but don't let the girl dictate the terms either. Be firm in your negotiations and don't be afraid to say NO! If you do agree to 100 Euros for 30 minutes of GFE, you are not guaranteed GFE in the room. As they say, YMMV. Instead, I would take a girl for the standard 50 E / 30 minutes and see how she behaves in bed. If you like her, tell her that you will extend to an hour. If by the end of the 30 minutes you do not feel the right chemistry, just cut your losses and move on. Before you even take a girl to the room, interview many girls. You will meet plenty of good girls. Perhaps throw in the promise of CIM, worth +50 Euros to her or ANAL +100 Euros to her. That does not guarantee you good service either. My game plan might be outdated in this club, but I would like the other senior members to weigh in on this and give you some sound advice. Remember, you are the boss! Good luck in your hunt.
FiddyCent.
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Originally Posted by Turgid
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Its her word against yours and she has a pussy that you don't which is more valuable to management.
I am quite familiar with the "dispute resolution procedures" at Oase available to perceived aggrieved parties, hence my confidence in my prior statements of when a fee is not due. If you are nevertheless inclined to make voluntary donations to girls when a fee would not otherwise be warranted, more power to you sir. I wish you the best of luck and happy times in the club.
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Originally Posted by Turgid
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Its her word against yours and she has a pussy that you don't which is more valuable to management.
I do not try to make a habit out of it. But I have walked out of the room after 2-3 minutes in the room more times than I count. I have done at Sharks, where the WG is chasing me down the stairs. Regulars noticed it, and remarked about it afterwards, joking that I was a troublemaker.
You are correct that is her word against the customers. But if she is having these type of "her word against the customer's word" disputes twenty times a week, reception is going to start to suspect something. Therefore she is going to save her complaints for those instances when a customer really does something egregious. The inverse is also true. If reception recognizes you as a customer that has a money dispute every third visit, you lose credibility.
At times clubs like Sharks have had 200+ WGs in their lineup. Club management can and will give WGs their walking papers. They simply select from the 50 so WGs that they turned away that week. Exception may be someone like Mandy or Evita who is less replaceable (but I suspect these two superstars rarely have issues with customers). Those two have legions of paying male customers who will take their money elsewhere and Sharks management knows that.
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Johana
Does the German- born Iraqi girl Johana (Joanna) from, I think, Cologne, still work at Oase?
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Originally Posted by LuckyNuts
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I'll soon be making my first FKK visits in Frankfurt so have been reading all the related forums. I see the "GFE" term often mentioned which brings up some questions. Is this a known and common term with the girls in FKKs? I've only ever heard the term used between guys to describe the level of service provided. Do some girls specifically provide a choice of either "standard" service or "GFE" service for different prices? Any particular reason all the prices I see discussed are in 50 euro increments? (50 or 100 or 150 or 200) Wouldn't most girls rather take 80 euros for a 30 minute GFE session than 50 for a standard session? TIA.
In my experience, you are best to negotiate up front for exactly what you want. If you want to kiss with tongue, say so. If you want anal, say so. If you want to be fist while an opera plays in the background, say so. They may say no, they may want too much money, but you will not embarrass these girls by being direct.
A blanket term like "GFE" is subject to too much room interpretation, in my opinion.
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Originally Posted by BeWilder
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In a moment of weakness I fell for her "GFE Special". It was going well anyway from the outset but she said she'd give me a 5 minute sample and if I liked it she'd carry on like that for the rest of the session for an extra E50. It's hard to resist when your balls are being licked!
I'll soon be making my first FKK visits in Frankfurt so have been reading all the related forums. I see the "GFE" term often mentioned which brings up some questions. Is this a known and common term with the girls in FKKs? I've only ever heard the term used between guys to describe the level of service provided. Do some girls specifically provide a choice of either "standard" service or "GFE" service for different prices? Any particular reason all the prices I see discussed are in 50 euro increments? (50 or 100 or 150 or 200) Wouldn't most girls rather take 80 euros for a 30 minute GFE session than 50 for a standard session? TIA.
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Originally Posted by PayForIt
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Nice report but wondered why you paid E150 for only an hour with (from your report) no extras?
In a moment of weakness I fell for her "GFE Special". It was going well anyway from the outset but she said she'd give me a 5 minute sample and if I liked it she'd carry on like that for the rest of the session for an extra E50. It's hard to resist when your balls are being licked!
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Originally Posted by UltraHappy
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No rewording is necessary. The original statement remains true that no fee is due in such circumstances. Just because a girl asks for money does not mean you have to give it to her. If a girl walks up to you and says, you looked at my left boob, now you must pay me 1,000 Euros, this does not mean you have to pay. The big man with no neck will not come down from upstairs and throw you out of the club in this situation if you do not pay, so you do not have to pay. Simple as that.
No rewording is required here to add the words "supposed to" -- No fee is due in such circumstance. Period. If you voluntary pay a girl in such a situation, that is more properly called a "gift. ".
Its her word against yours and she has a pussy that you don't which is more valuable to management.
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Atlantis heyday
Originally Posted by Tommylove
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I was at Atlantis in its heyday, during the Frankfurt book fair. There must have been 150 women there, and I fucked what was probably the most beautiful girl I ever fucked in my life. Unforgettable.
But Oase and World have in the past been spectacular. If Oase has gone downhill, that's the circle of life.
These days, I prefer SE Asia. In Vietnam, I hooked up with an early 20's stunner for $12 at a hot toc (barbershop). When I left, a nearby hot toc tout says, "Come here next time, I give you locals rate. $6!
TommyLove,
You said that you fucked the hottest girl in your life during the "heyday of Atlantis". What year was that specifically? Just wondering. Why do you think Atlantis (or FKK's generally) have been going down hill?
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Originally Posted by Turgid
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Permit me a slight rewording of your post. "Merely entering a room is not supposed to incur a fee if no services are rendered. That is, if you are only in the room 2-3 minutes and leave without any services rendered, then no fee is supposed to be paid". Do not forget that some girls are there to try to get as much money for as little output as possible.
No rewording is necessary. The original statement remains true that no fee is due in such circumstances. Just because a girl asks for money does not mean you have to give it to her. If a girl walks up to you and says, you looked at my left boob, now you must pay me 1,000 Euros, this does not mean you have to pay. The big man with no neck will not come down from upstairs and throw you out of the club in this situation if you do not pay, so you do not have to pay. Simple as that.
No rewording is required here to add the words "supposed to" -- No fee is due in such circumstance. Period. If you voluntary pay a girl in such a situation, that is more properly called a "gift. ".
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Query
Nice report but wondered why you paid E150 for only an hour with (from your report) no extras?
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