FKK Oase - Burgholzhausen

[Shark16]

Plan to visit Oase on Sunday the 16th, arriving around 2 PM and leaving late evening. Have attended several times over the past few years, but noticed that the Auto show is at the Messe late next week. Anyone have any thoughts when it will start to be busy in Oase? Went during the Auto show week 2 years ago. And it was almost impossible to get a room.

Automechanika 2018 is 11- 15th September (Tuesday to Saturday). Expect big crowds and terrible conditions in the evenings (arrive early / leave early if you must go). But on Sunday the messe visitors are usually going home leaving the girls lonely.

I have mostly good experience from Sundays after a big exhibition (as well as the days prior to it). Strong LU as "all the girls" will be there through the messe days. Favourable F / M ratios as most of the messe visitors have left. Girls mostly happy and relaxed after having earned good money in the previous days. Normally this would give good opportunities and a good time.

As always one has to pick the right girls. I bet a few can be in a "sharky mood" after having earned money too easy from the non-regular gents / tourists in the previous days.

[DaWong949]

I used iPad before in Oase without any problem (Only in quite relax room upstairs). However, on my last trip, I noticed that there was a sign at front desk indicated no phone or WiFi devices. I asked the lady. She said you could only use your phone or iPad by the entrance. Is it true? Hes policy been changed?

[Simon2001]

Hi,

Plan to visit Oase on Sunday the 16th, arriving around 2 PM and leaving late evening. Have attended several times over the past few years, but noticed that the Auto show is at the Messe late next week. Anyone have any thoughts when it will start to be busy in Oase? Went during the Auto show week 2 years ago. And it was almost impossible to get a room.

Thanks,

Will.

I'm visiting next weekend, oh no have I chosen the wrong weekend? I thought the show was in Hanover Germany, do clubs still get busy the weekend before despite the two locations being around 3-4 hours distance?

[Willa1]

Hi,

Plan to visit Oase on Sunday the 16th, arriving around 2 PM and leaving late evening. Have attended several times over the past few years, but noticed that the Auto show is at the Messe late next week. Anyone have any thoughts when it will start to be busy in Oase? Went during the Auto show week 2 years ago. And it was almost impossible to get a room.

Thanks,

Will.

[Rogue Nation]

What happens to the outdoor area in Oase when it is October, November and later? I am wondering because I enjoyed my visit in the summer but worry that there will be nowhere to lounge around if outdoor is closed when it gets colder.

Pool, Sauna and garden can be used in winter.

[ChillBear]

What happens to the outdoor area in Oase when it is October, November and later? I am wondering because I enjoyed my visit in the summer but worry that there will be nowhere to lounge around if outdoor is closed when it gets colder.

[ExpatLover]

It's a very tricky knot to unentangle. Even if selling sex to a degree is becoming more acceptable with the spread of Internet porn (it didn't kill Paris Hilton career, and it launched Kim Kardashian's) -- there's also the stigma of it even when you're out of the business.

Hardcore porn actresses Aurora Snow and Bree Olsen have talked about this. They can't get jobs as, say, teachers... but I do know of an adult perfomer who did, but she's Canadian and had to kind of "fake" her own death.

Then consider our own roles as patrons in this business. It's hard for women to make prostitution a socially acceptable choice when many men are also fearful of revealing that they patronize sex workers (though maybe this will change too, from Charlie Sheen to Justin Bieber to various professional athletes.).

I think in some areas of the world it's modestly more socially acceptable -- see Bruna Surfistinha in Brazil or Gina Wild in Germany. The stigma hasn't been as strong with these two, although it hasn't gone away completely either. Maybe Stormy Daniels will push the envelope a little further in the USA.

This is clearly one aspect but for me another aspect could be the mental health of many of the girls, complete loss of self esteem, low energy to build any personal project I spent some time outside the clubs with girls and really I don t know if they are prostitute because of their low energy level or if this is coming from that job but most of them have no power, are not interesting in discovering the world, the people.

[Jmioffe]

XXL. Yes. Loads of girls have told me they think prostitution is a huge improvement on the other career options available to them. Just a shame that it is not a socially acceptable choice for western European girls.

It's a very tricky knot to unentangle. Even if selling sex to a degree is becoming more acceptable with the spread of Internet porn (it didn't kill Paris Hilton career, and it launched Kim Kardashian's) -- there's also the stigma of it even when you're out of the business.

Hardcore porn actresses Aurora Snow and Bree Olsen have talked about this. They can't get jobs as, say, teachers... but I do know of an adult perfomer who did, but she's Canadian and had to kind of "fake" her own death.

Then consider our own roles as patrons in this business. It's hard for women to make prostitution a socially acceptable choice when many men are also fearful of revealing that they patronize sex workers (though maybe this will change too, from Charlie Sheen to Justin Bieber to various professional athletes.).

I think in some areas of the world it's modestly more socially acceptable -- see Bruna Surfistinha in Brazil or Gina Wild in Germany. The stigma hasn't been as strong with these two, although it hasn't gone away completely either. Maybe Stormy Daniels will push the envelope a little further in the USA.

[McAdonis]

How would know what year it was? Were you attending regularly years before that? It was definitely before 2007 that Romanians were already dominating at the Palace. Maybe somewhat broader mixture in 2005 but still Romanian and Bulgarian dominated in my memory.

Probably talking to too many old-timers. The transition was perhaps more gradual I suspect, where Romanians were growing 10 percent per year over multiple years.

[Loco Tonto]

Claudia aka Aida, formerly Mainhattan, many Tattoos? She didn't retire. Saw her two three weeks ago.

Oh! Sorry. Didn't mean to spread false rumors. Was at Oase last week, speaking to one of the girls, she said she hadn't been around for a while. Theke also told me hasn't seen her for few months. Said didn't know if she was coming back.

Thanks for the correction.

[Rogue Nation]

Romania joined the EU in 2007. So yes, 2007 showed an increase in Romanian girls in the European sex industry.

[Syzygies]

When self-driving cars become a reality, it is predicted that there will be an over-supply of long-haul drivers. That will probably be a more disruptive change in the labor market than when the Romanians WGs flooded the German paid sex market in 2007! At least in the latter case, demand (in the form of tourists) increased, albeit probably not to accommodate the increased supply of Romanian WGs.

How would know what year it was? Were you attending regularly years before that? It was definitely before 2007 that Romanians were already dominating at the Palace. Maybe somewhat broader mixture in 2005 but still Romanian and Bulgarian dominated in my memory. Not always easy to tell if girl was telling truth about origin anyway. Actually in later years more Asians showed up and maybe more Latinas.

I recall Katrin (Palace) saying she was from the "Black Sea" and at first I did not know where it was. LOL Did the Romanian numbers increase a lot in 2007? Can't say I noticed.

[DaWong949]

I have quick trip to Oase last Monday. The LU is OK. Food is so so (same as before). I managed to have 3 sessions. One with Adina who have beautiful tits. Two times with Veronica. I have not seen her for almost one year. She gains back her normal shape. (Last time was little bit overweight). There is brand new girl who the manager just showed her around. She is cute, I was thinking about doing her but never had chance. Hope she will be still around in November when I come back.

Overall 40-60 girls. Guys may be around same amount. It is not bad consider it is slow Monday.

[McAdonis]

In any case, compression of lawyer salaries by a small amount relative to national averages does not in any way imply that college degrees are losing value. Far from it.

As artificial intelligence advances, certain industries like the legal industry will contract. Junior associates used to get hired to perform grunt work like document review. Artificial intelligence now handles that at a fraction of the cost. This means that someone who graduated in 2017 from a lower tier law school may never ever work as a lawyer. I reference 2017 explicitly here, because law school tuition in 2017 was 2.71 times more expensive than it was in 1985, after adjusting for inflation. Lawyers who graduated in the 1990's obviously perform more higher-value work than document review, so given current technology, they have yet to be negatively impacted. In fact, law firms are cutting costs by hiring less junior associates, so these older lawyers probably saw some pay increases, partly due to the fact that there are now fewer lawyers in the firm to share the bounty amongst.

When self-driving cars become a reality, it is predicted that there will be an over-supply of long-haul drivers. That will probably be a more disruptive change in the labor market than when the Romanians WGs flooded the German paid sex market in 2007! At least in the latter case, demand (in the form of tourists) increased, albeit probably not to accommodate the increased supply of Romanian WGs.

[HungryStud101]

How about the service providers? Anyone worth doing?