FKK Oase - Burgholzhausen

[Pistons]

As such, I think this inverse relationship between looks and service is tough to ascertain. If I never take someone with looks below 7, I can't really vouch that a 5 would give better service than my 7 or 9. I just would n't know.

Does a 7 on looks *always* give a better service than a 9 on looks? I don't think so. There are plenty of 8's and 9's who gave better service than 7's -- and vice versa.

It is like claiming someone who is less smart in your workplace is necessarily a more hard working person, because he has to compensate his lack of smarts with better work ethic. That is not always true. Neither is the looks to service inverse relationship in clubs.

Yes, thankfully it is not always true. I have even heard of optical 5's who did horrible service, while at the same club a 9 was fantastic. But with a short few, being pretty serves as a cushion of being a bit more reserved. They are a minority at least, but I know one or two without mentioning names. At the same time, there might be angry looking girls who have lower optics and are more reserved in the room due to being angry.

But if anyone feels like making a macro study on this, please do.

[Kosher Kowboy]

Isn't KK's strategy to empty his balls at daycare prior to going to mainstream club to swim with sharks? Being sperm depleted makes it easier for me to walk away from deals I don't like at least.

I rarely do two clubs in a day but a few times I have gone to Day Care early and than gone to Sharks or Mainhatten. Or the reverse. As I have gotten to know and befriend many of the Germans we often see each other in mainstream club, I stole that plan out of the the locals playbook. In fact I like to steal from others playbooks sometimes. As Optimist said my gameplan he references is not the above but I did with the help of Russian hackers got in to your computer to read your playbook as there is one play I may plan to steal, or simply borrow if the situation and environment are both there so I can be best prepared.

As for walking away from deals I don't like, I have no problem with that lol

Neither do I and level of sperm is irrelevant. I do not care how many of those things are swimming around pressuring me inside, if a deal isn't good I walk period! If one needs a low level of sperm to be able to say ' no' it is kind of like riding a bike with training wheels. One should be able to ride that bike at all times with no aid from training wheels or biological depletion of DNA. McAdonis, I give you more credit than you stated for yourself, I think you could by now walk from a deal regardless of your level of sperm, just ' get up and say no thank you'; pretty easy. That play is out of my playbook and free of charge since I stole a play from you!

IMO.

However, what floats one guys boat may not another, as long as we all have fun. I hate to say it Optimist but you are just a senior monger who has lost his marbles and I am simply an over the hill middle aged loser, We have no clue what we are doing!

[Optimist]

Sorry. "Self mocking" not self made. I really must watch predictive text.

[Optimist]

Isn't KK's strategy to empty his balls at daycare prior to going to mainstream club to swim with sharks? Being sperm depleted makes it easier for me to walk away from deals I don't like at least.

They expect Goodwill from customer. Agreeing to a 100+ EUR session ahead of time for a WG you just met. That or establish enough social proof as someone the WGs know consistently spends well.

I know perfectly well how to establish goodwill. And it doesn't involve giving a salesperson whatever they ask.

Sorry if my mild ironic self made going at the beginning of my quoted texted a bit ohscure

I just did a report on how it went on an occasion when the normal methods are not available.

Agreeing to 100 in advance is not right for me. I follow UltraHappys approach: I make my mind up as the session progresses.

As for KK I think you need to read the post I referenced. You are incorrect about what he says in that post

As for walking away from deals I don't like, I have no problem with that lol

[McAdonis]

As I expect DFK and DATY and a personality right from a 50 euro first session I was clearly in the wrong place. I think one needs to be a regular at Oase and to adopt the KK strategy (see the thread for Mainhatten).

Isn't KK's strategy to empty his balls at daycare prior to going to mainstream club to swim with sharks? Being sperm depleted makes it easier for me to walk away from deals I don't like at least.

I went with plenty of money to spend and expecting to extend my visit, but I was so turned off by the attitude I came home with my money. These girls don't seem to understand there is more to business relationships. They said that if I want a service I must pay because I want it, and were unwilling to provide any goodwill.

They expect Goodwill from customer. Agreeing to a 100+ EUR session ahead of time for a WG you just met. That or establish enough social proof as someone the WGs know consistently spends well.

[ExpatLover]

I bought a two hour entry and was hugely disappointed. Every girl I spoke to gave me a menu of extras and had interest only in money, not in providing good service. As I expect DFK and DATY and a personality right from a 50 euro first session I was clearly in the wrong place. I think one needs to be a regular at Oase and to adopt the KK strategy (see the thread for Mainhatten).

I went with plenty of money to spend and expecting to extend my visit, but I was so turned off by the attitude I came home with my money. These girls don't seem to understand there is more to business relationships. They said that if I want a service I must pay because I want it, and were unwilling to provide any goodwill. I told them that fuck and suck was really boring. I even took a girl to a room and didn't ask her to do anything, but she had no idea how to relate. My FKK visits are getting cheaper and cheaper and less rewarding.

I did however bump into an old scammer, who I like very much, so something was salvaged. She provided in public all the services she used to provide in the past.

KK strategy, may be but still a big question mark for me, knowing that he needs to take so much Viagra to session his girls.

[Optimist]

Upstate. I just reread my post and realise it comes across a bit strident. Apologies for that. It was meant to be a polite reply.

Cheers.

[Optimist]

Upstate Mann. Yes of course there is collusion. The romanian girls have always been good at enforcing peer established norms (of course, I generalise). Oase itself supports this pricing structure at the Front Desk.

You say you are baffled by these "complaints". I am not sure why. You explain that you come from somewhere where you get nothing much good for 50 euros, so you are importing those values.

Being a high spender is not relevant to the point being made. For example, I have frequently paid a couple of thousand to or so to whoever is my current favourite, but this is not relevant. My turn off is that I do not want a menu all agreed up front as you like to do. I look for a personal interaction which develops its own course, rather than picking standard dishes from a set menu. A mercenary attitude by a girl seems to me to be the same as going with an ugly girl is for you.

I hope this helps explain.

Cheers.

[Member #4581]

Most guys don't session with a girl they find unattractive -- I don't, for sure. So, by definition, all the girls I ask for a session are girls that I personally find quite attractive. Perhaps some of them are more attractive than others, but if I like the optics of a girl, regardless of her reputation I will ask for a session.

As such, I think this inverse relationship between looks and service is tough to ascertain. If I never take someone with looks below 7, I can't really vouch that a 5 would give better service than my 7 or 9. I just would n't know.

Does a 7 on looks *always* give a better service than a 9 on looks? I don't think so. There are plenty of 8's and 9's who gave better service than 7's -- and vice versa.

It is like claiming someone who is less smart in your workplace is necessarily a more hard working person, because he has to compensate his lack of smarts with better work ethic. That is not always true. Neither is the looks to service inverse relationship in clubs.

[Uppstate Mann]

Sure. No kissing, short BJ and pounding her. 20 min. Done. You'll get that from all girls at all clubs.

DFK, DATY, BJ, Sex in multiple positions no starfish, 30 min for 50 - that's a bit harder to find.

These Romanian girls, although independent contractors, have apparently colluded and are putting their heels down on this one. You might find exceptions, but most know they can get their way. I know in my country a 50/30 would get you a girl who would likely have STD's and drug problems. You wouldn't want to DFK her and certainly not go DATY.

As what I suppose would be considered a big spender in these clubs, I don't have problems. I only go with one girl (usually for several hours), get a total GFE with extras, and everything is determined up front. I love the service I receive, every time. All of these complaints baffle me.

Oh, and to respond to another post, no ugly girls! But bless them and I am glad somebody is taking care of them! LOL! I just can't go there. These clubs are about fantasy fulfilment and that doesn't include ugly girls for me.

[Optimist]

Sure. No kissing, short BJ and pounding her. 20 min. Done. You'll get that from all girls at all clubs.

DFK, DATY, BJ, Sex in multiple positions no starfish, 30 min for 50 - that's a bit harder to find.

I bought a two hour entry and was hugely disappointed. Every girl I spoke to gave me a menu of extras and had interest only in money, not in providing good service. As I expect DFK and DATY and a personality right from a 50 euro first session I was clearly in the wrong place. I think one needs to be a regular at Oase and to adopt the KK strategy (see the thread for Mainhatten).

I went with plenty of money to spend and expecting to extend my visit, but I was so turned off by the attitude I came home with my money. These girls don't seem to understand there is more to business relationships. They said that if I want a service I must pay because I want it, and were unwilling to provide any goodwill. I told them that fuck and suck was really boring. I even took a girl to a room and didn't ask her to do anything, but she had no idea how to relate. My FKK visits are getting cheaper and cheaper and less rewarding.

I did however bump into an old scammer, who I like very much, so something was salvaged. She provided in public all the services she used to provide in the past.

[ExpatLover]

In most cases chemistry moreso than looks gets me going. I have had excellent sessions with downright ugly girls (they must have good bodies with rotund bundas though). Very long hard banging enjoyable in doggy and other positions. In mish just put a pillow over the face, don't stifle them though, LOL.

Everyone has is own opinion about sex and erotic, for me beauty is the only driver so easy in the real life to fuck ugly girls for free.

[Sirioja]

In most cases chemistry moreso than looks gets me going. I have had excellent sessions with downright ugly girls (they must have good bodies with rotund bundas though). Very long hard banging enjoyable in doggy and other positions. In mish just put a pillow over the face, don't stifle them though, LOL.

Can't compete with you, can t enjoy a girl if I have to put a pillow on her face, can't enjoy sex if I don't enjoy to kiss her. Then I prefer to leave with my heavy full balls. I don't need this level of sex.

[Turgid]

Although, I have to say that I really can't comment from experience about ugly girls since I don't even talk to them, let alone fuck them haha! No, I don't even give them a chance LOL!

In most cases chemistry moreso than looks gets me going. I have had excellent sessions with downright ugly girls (they must have good bodies with rotund bundas though). Very long hard banging enjoyable in doggy and other positions. In mish just put a pillow over the face, don't stifle them though, LOL.

[Turgid]

........DFK, DATY, BJ, Sex in multiple positions no starfish, 30 min for 50 - that's a bit harder to find.

I have got that but have to work a little harder these days to get it at FKKs. Perhaps the girls talk and word has gotten around about the size of my member and my penchant for hard pounding in different positions. In Latin America that works in my favor.