FKK Oase - Burgholzhausen

[Kosher Kowboy]

Are you sure this is not a direct quote from Donald (Duck) Trump during his "secret 1 on 1 meeting" with Putin in Helsinki? LOL.

What in the world is wrong with him? I really wish there was a way Congress or Customs and Immigration could stuff Trump and not allow entry in to the United States by Putin.

Probably one of the best things I've read on this forum in a long time!

I will take that as a complement although I don't know about the best, lots of good guys here with great advise and opinions around much longer than myself although I've been around elsewhere 28 years prior. I think it took me till age 30-40 ( somewhere in there) to realize that the ability to walk is the single most powerful tool we have in the shed to counteract greed or a deal we do not like. Grab another, sometimes grabbing her friend or foe really sends a message to them IMO.

[Ortos]

I happen to be old school and always found that learning from those my senior and observing and listening to the locals in any market I go to will yield the best results in my own experiences. I sure have learned a lot from you so if you feel your marbles are lost, missing, defective or not functioning properly please send them to Day Care for me and I will implant them in my head there. My training wheels stopped working, I am too old!

Are you sure this is not a direct quote from Donald (Duck) Trump during his "secret 1 on 1 meeting" with Putin in Helsinki? LOL.

[Ortos]

I do not care how many of those things are swimming around pressuring me inside, if a deal isn't good I walk period! If one needs a low level of sperm to be able to say ' no' it is kind of like riding a bike with training wheels. One should be able to ride that bike at all times with no aid from training wheels or biological depletion of DNA.

Probably one of the best things I've read on this forum in a long time!

[Kosher Kowboy]

KK. You do me too much credit. I doubt I ever had my marbles.

Each to his own game, with or without marbles.

Senior mongers are almost by definition marbleless lol

I happen to be old school and always found that learning from those my senior and observing and listening to the locals in any market I go to will yield the best results in my own experiences. I sure have learned a lot from you so if you feel your marbles are lost, missing, defective or not functioning properly please send them to Day Care for me and I will implant them in my head there. My training wheels stopped working, I am too old!

And will you please call that devious Queen of yours and get her back in the Lineup, with Jessy headed on holiday your Queen's character and charisma is much needed to make that atmosphere what it should be. Too many guys reporting shit service and attitudes now at Day Care, they must have all gone on the rag the same week it looks like.

[Optimist]

KK. You do me too much credit. I doubt I ever had my marbles.

Each to his own game, with or without marbles.

Senior mongers are almost by definition marbleless lol

[Pistons]

As such, I think this inverse relationship between looks and service is tough to ascertain. If I never take someone with looks below 7, I can't really vouch that a 5 would give better service than my 7 or 9. I just would n't know.

Does a 7 on looks *always* give a better service than a 9 on looks? I don't think so. There are plenty of 8's and 9's who gave better service than 7's -- and vice versa.

It is like claiming someone who is less smart in your workplace is necessarily a more hard working person, because he has to compensate his lack of smarts with better work ethic. That is not always true. Neither is the looks to service inverse relationship in clubs.

Yes, thankfully it is not always true. I have even heard of optical 5's who did horrible service, while at the same club a 9 was fantastic. But with a short few, being pretty serves as a cushion of being a bit more reserved. They are a minority at least, but I know one or two without mentioning names. At the same time, there might be angry looking girls who have lower optics and are more reserved in the room due to being angry.

But if anyone feels like making a macro study on this, please do.

[Kosher Kowboy]

Isn't KK's strategy to empty his balls at daycare prior to going to mainstream club to swim with sharks? Being sperm depleted makes it easier for me to walk away from deals I don't like at least.

I rarely do two clubs in a day but a few times I have gone to Day Care early and than gone to Sharks or Mainhatten. Or the reverse. As I have gotten to know and befriend many of the Germans we often see each other in mainstream club, I stole that plan out of the the locals playbook. In fact I like to steal from others playbooks sometimes. As Optimist said my gameplan he references is not the above but I did with the help of Russian hackers got in to your computer to read your playbook as there is one play I may plan to steal, or simply borrow if the situation and environment are both there so I can be best prepared.

As for walking away from deals I don't like, I have no problem with that lol

Neither do I and level of sperm is irrelevant. I do not care how many of those things are swimming around pressuring me inside, if a deal isn't good I walk period! If one needs a low level of sperm to be able to say ' no' it is kind of like riding a bike with training wheels. One should be able to ride that bike at all times with no aid from training wheels or biological depletion of DNA. McAdonis, I give you more credit than you stated for yourself, I think you could by now walk from a deal regardless of your level of sperm, just ' get up and say no thank you'; pretty easy. That play is out of my playbook and free of charge since I stole a play from you!

IMO.

However, what floats one guys boat may not another, as long as we all have fun. I hate to say it Optimist but you are just a senior monger who has lost his marbles and I am simply an over the hill middle aged loser, We have no clue what we are doing!

[Optimist]

Sorry. "Self mocking" not self made. I really must watch predictive text.

[Optimist]

Isn't KK's strategy to empty his balls at daycare prior to going to mainstream club to swim with sharks? Being sperm depleted makes it easier for me to walk away from deals I don't like at least.

They expect Goodwill from customer. Agreeing to a 100+ EUR session ahead of time for a WG you just met. That or establish enough social proof as someone the WGs know consistently spends well.

I know perfectly well how to establish goodwill. And it doesn't involve giving a salesperson whatever they ask.

Sorry if my mild ironic self made going at the beginning of my quoted texted a bit ohscure

I just did a report on how it went on an occasion when the normal methods are not available.

Agreeing to 100 in advance is not right for me. I follow UltraHappys approach: I make my mind up as the session progresses.

As for KK I think you need to read the post I referenced. You are incorrect about what he says in that post

As for walking away from deals I don't like, I have no problem with that lol

[McAdonis]

As I expect DFK and DATY and a personality right from a 50 euro first session I was clearly in the wrong place. I think one needs to be a regular at Oase and to adopt the KK strategy (see the thread for Mainhatten).

Isn't KK's strategy to empty his balls at daycare prior to going to mainstream club to swim with sharks? Being sperm depleted makes it easier for me to walk away from deals I don't like at least.

I went with plenty of money to spend and expecting to extend my visit, but I was so turned off by the attitude I came home with my money. These girls don't seem to understand there is more to business relationships. They said that if I want a service I must pay because I want it, and were unwilling to provide any goodwill.

They expect Goodwill from customer. Agreeing to a 100+ EUR session ahead of time for a WG you just met. That or establish enough social proof as someone the WGs know consistently spends well.

[ExpatLover]

I bought a two hour entry and was hugely disappointed. Every girl I spoke to gave me a menu of extras and had interest only in money, not in providing good service. As I expect DFK and DATY and a personality right from a 50 euro first session I was clearly in the wrong place. I think one needs to be a regular at Oase and to adopt the KK strategy (see the thread for Mainhatten).

I went with plenty of money to spend and expecting to extend my visit, but I was so turned off by the attitude I came home with my money. These girls don't seem to understand there is more to business relationships. They said that if I want a service I must pay because I want it, and were unwilling to provide any goodwill. I told them that fuck and suck was really boring. I even took a girl to a room and didn't ask her to do anything, but she had no idea how to relate. My FKK visits are getting cheaper and cheaper and less rewarding.

I did however bump into an old scammer, who I like very much, so something was salvaged. She provided in public all the services she used to provide in the past.

KK strategy, may be but still a big question mark for me, knowing that he needs to take so much Viagra to session his girls.

[Optimist]

Upstate. I just reread my post and realise it comes across a bit strident. Apologies for that. It was meant to be a polite reply.

Cheers.

[Optimist]

Upstate Mann. Yes of course there is collusion. The romanian girls have always been good at enforcing peer established norms (of course, I generalise). Oase itself supports this pricing structure at the Front Desk.

You say you are baffled by these "complaints". I am not sure why. You explain that you come from somewhere where you get nothing much good for 50 euros, so you are importing those values.

Being a high spender is not relevant to the point being made. For example, I have frequently paid a couple of thousand to or so to whoever is my current favourite, but this is not relevant. My turn off is that I do not want a menu all agreed up front as you like to do. I look for a personal interaction which develops its own course, rather than picking standard dishes from a set menu. A mercenary attitude by a girl seems to me to be the same as going with an ugly girl is for you.

I hope this helps explain.

Cheers.

[Member #4581]

Most guys don't session with a girl they find unattractive -- I don't, for sure. So, by definition, all the girls I ask for a session are girls that I personally find quite attractive. Perhaps some of them are more attractive than others, but if I like the optics of a girl, regardless of her reputation I will ask for a session.

As such, I think this inverse relationship between looks and service is tough to ascertain. If I never take someone with looks below 7, I can't really vouch that a 5 would give better service than my 7 or 9. I just would n't know.

Does a 7 on looks *always* give a better service than a 9 on looks? I don't think so. There are plenty of 8's and 9's who gave better service than 7's -- and vice versa.

It is like claiming someone who is less smart in your workplace is necessarily a more hard working person, because he has to compensate his lack of smarts with better work ethic. That is not always true. Neither is the looks to service inverse relationship in clubs.

[Uppstate Mann]

Sure. No kissing, short BJ and pounding her. 20 min. Done. You'll get that from all girls at all clubs.

DFK, DATY, BJ, Sex in multiple positions no starfish, 30 min for 50 - that's a bit harder to find.

These Romanian girls, although independent contractors, have apparently colluded and are putting their heels down on this one. You might find exceptions, but most know they can get their way. I know in my country a 50/30 would get you a girl who would likely have STD's and drug problems. You wouldn't want to DFK her and certainly not go DATY.

As what I suppose would be considered a big spender in these clubs, I don't have problems. I only go with one girl (usually for several hours), get a total GFE with extras, and everything is determined up front. I love the service I receive, every time. All of these complaints baffle me.

Oh, and to respond to another post, no ugly girls! But bless them and I am glad somebody is taking care of them! LOL! I just can't go there. These clubs are about fantasy fulfilment and that doesn't include ugly girls for me.