FKK Oase - Burgholzhausen

[Hessen Bub]

Girls don't go to the police because they are thinking police here in Germany is as corrupt and involved in the business as in Romania or Bulgaria. They don't realize that authorities here can and will help them, that most of the threats agianst them or the family will never be taken into action.

HB

[UltraHappy]

What I want to know is, has anyone witnessed girls kissing outside the room? Like in the Kino, and etc. Do you guys see kissing going on in the Kino?

Kissing in the kino? LOL. How about blowjobs, threesomes, screwing, naked lap dances. All the time. Sometimes by two girls on one guy.

To be fair to PL, blow jobs are a lot more common in the kino than kissing. Almost all girls will do BJs in the kino but not all girls DFK (whether in the kino or not). I've been fairly lucky with kissing but I occasionally run across girls who won't kiss (whether in the kino or not).

Lately, kissing is less of a requirement for me and I usually reserve kissing for my favorite, favorites.

But yeah PL, plenty of girls will smooch you in the kino at Oase but certainly not all. Before the kino wall came down, the Oase kino had a lot more public recreational activities. These activities still occur without the previous kino wall between the kino and the main lounge, just not with the frequency as before. For one, there's a lot less fucking in the kino now that the wall has fallen. Sad really.

[UltraHappy]

Girls at the club told me they are totally on their own. They keep all the money. They pay the club 70E entrance like other customers, some girls also stay at the club for 15E daily cost.

Pimping is illegal, was having a casual chat with some German guy at the club, he was telling next year onwards some new laws are coming in place- that would further enforce anti-pimping and that kind of stuff.

Sounds like this girl has a bad arrangement- bad boy friend, bad pimp- not at all an unheard situation. I don't know what the club or the police would do, police can take action- If it is part of their priority, sometimes evidence etc is hard to come by.

Yes, yes, that is exactly what all the girls will tell you. That they don't have a "boyfriend." This is written in their FKK-handbook,"How to be a good Tute." You can rest assured that if a girl has a boyfriend that she won't tell you because the girls know that the customers want to hear that the girl is single. Yes, I know there are exceptions to this.

Yes, pimping is illegal, but how is a little village girl going to get set up in the fkk without any help? First, she doesn't speak the language. So, figuring out all of the German bureaucracy to get properly registered with the proper papers is an impossible task. Most clubs won't accept Romanian girls without papers (although some do). Before she can get officially registered, she needs a real address where she lives in Germany. She doesn't have any money and even if she did have enough money to rent a proper apartment, no landlord is going to rent to her because she doesn't have a "real job." So, the system is set up in such a way that the girl needs a helpful "boyfriend" to get started. In return, the "boyfriends" demand a certain return on their investment.

Yes, the girl could go to the police. But she won't because either she is blinded by love with her helpful "boyfriend" and doesn't understand the situation she is really in or (1) she is afraid of her "boyfriend," (2) she is afraid that her "boyfriend" will follow through on his threat to tell the girl's parents that their daughter is working as a wh*0re, and (3) she is afraid that the "boyfriend" will follow through on his threats to hurt her little sister / parents / whoever back home if the girl doesn't hold up her end of the bargain.

So, in the end, the girl either doesn't realize that she's being worked by a pimp or she often feels like she has no choice in the matter because of the situation she has fallen into.

Yes, there are independents out there. But they are the minority. I know some girls who paid 3000 Euros to an experienced girl in exchange for the experienced girl setting up the new girl. But unfortunately, those situations are the minority. It would seem that most girls fall into the "being pimped" category, despite what newcomers are told in the club.

I did not want to believe this either but my longtime fkk-wives and girls I know who are no longer in the business confirm that this seems to be the case. Also, in many of these situations, it is often difficult to distinguish between whether the pimp is indeed a "boyfriend" or truly a pimp. What is the difference between these two if both are living off of the earnings of the working girl?

Now please forget all of this and put it out of your head because it is a real downer and go enjoy yourself!

[Beffen1]

What I want to know is, has anyone witnessed girls kissing outside the room? Like in the Kino, and etc. Do you guys see kissing going on in the Kino?

Kissing in the kino? LOL. How about blowjobs, threesomes, screwing, naked lap dances. All the time. Sometimes by two girls on one guy.

[PussyLiccker]

The thing about this club is, I always went for the new girls and most of them provided DFK was more open to doing more for 50 euros. That's why I usually went for the new girls at Oase. Every time I would see a new pretty new girl, I would get so excited because I knew at Oase, the new girls would provide good services.

HB has witnessed 5 new girls offering kissing as extra. That's a huge no no for me. This of course is not the only reason for me. The food situation I can put up with as I don't like to stay there from opening to closing like I used to as a newbie back then. Last few trips, I saved a day for Oase, but it has disappointed me in terms of good looking new talent, and combine that with the Palace like up-selling of the new girls, I can forget about this place for now.

[PussyLiccker]

One of the girls told me- per club training / rules- they are required to state all the upsell options to all customers.

Sounds like up-sell is being encouraged by having girls state what they offer for extras. Maybe the management thinks if the girl is upfront about what she charges for extras, there would be no conflicts. That could mean that girls can choose kissing as an extra and let the client know that they charge extra for kissing, and that could be the reason for below.

What I want to know is, has anyone witnessed girls kissing outside the room? Like in the Kino, and etc. Do you guys see kissing going on in the Kino?

There were like 10 new girls who approached me that day and 6 or 7 of them asked me if I knew the prices. I sais yes. They said they are going to explain them to me anyway. 5 of them tried to tell me that for 50€ it's "suck&fuck", if you want DFK it's going to be 100€/30min.

[SBTiger]

So you rate 3 out of your 4 sessions a 9 or 10 out of 10. What is good service for you? Did all the girls kiss (DFK)? DATY and BBBJ included? Did the sessions last the full 30 or 60min? Did you pay the standard price? Any upsell attempts? Thanks.

HB

Yes to All, included everything in standard price (50E). Of course extra 30 min time is 50E, anal was 100E extra (no one was negotiating the price).

[Hessen Bub]

So you rate 3 out of your 4 sessions a 9 or 10 out of 10. What is good service for you? Did all the girls kiss (DFK)? DATY and BBBJ included? Did the sessions last the full 30 or 60min? Did you pay the standard price? Any upsell attempts? Thanks.

HB

[SBTiger]

Have you guys ever had a girl told you she was afraid of her pimp and couldn't leave him because he knew where she stays along with her daughter and parents and she had to do this job to cover her cost to bring her to Germany? She was sold to the pimp by her boyfriend.

What can we do to help this girls?

She never ask me extra money and she only got 50 euro. After the session she cried but never ask more than what she needed. It bothered me. So anything we can do to help her?

Tell the club or police?

Girls at the club told me they are totally on their own. They keep all the money. They pay the club 70E entrance like other customers, some girls also stay at the club for 15E daily cost.

Pimping is illegal, was having a casual chat with some German guy at the club, he was telling next year onwards some new laws are coming in place- that would further enforce anti-pimping and that kind of stuff.

Sounds like this girl has a bad arrangement- bad boy friend, bad pimp- not at all an unheard situation. I don't know what the club or the police would do, police can take action- If it is part of their priority, sometimes evidence etc is hard to come by.

[SBTiger]

Guys I made it. Worked out the logistics including buying the train ticket from the machine with help of a police woman (none else).

Will file a detailed report in a couple if days (tired and can only type so much on my Tablet).

But overall 2 thumbs up- did not at all feel out of place at all as newbie, and great lineup (on a Tuesday- maybe it is the messe).

Tomorrow Sharks or Mainhatten!

Here are some more details of my trip:

Logistics: Took S5 to Bad Homburg (S5 destination alternates to Bad Homburg and Friedrichsdorf (E 4. 25) , cab to club E16. It is somewhat far form the station in the middle of no where. If you drive better have a good GPS. Reached about 6:15 PM Tuesday. 70E entrance.

Initially not too many girls but still more than a couple of dozen and not many customers, as evening progressed girls increased customers too. But I would estimate girls out numbered customers at least 2:1. Girls 7-9+, most are Romanian (90%).

Sorry for filing the report late (forgetting girl names. Should have kept notes)

Girl 1: Tall Romanian Diana. 5'10"++. Looks 9+ service 10. Great time 1 hour. Will do again yes of course.

Girl 2: Petite Romanian 5'1". Looks 7, service 9. 30 mins.

Girl 3: Marisol Romanian 5'3". Looks 9 service 10. 30 mins. Great time. Very soft spoken and nice girl. Will do again yes of course.

Girls 4: 2 Bulgarian girls (Eva Evalina or some such). Looks 8 service 5. Somehow convinced me into this 3 some. Was getting late and tied and was wanting to catch the train. Bad experience. 3 some does Not mean lesbian show. Watch out for the duo.

Food- Had Pizza- Pretty good, coffee etc are pretty good too. Talk about food quality deteriorating etc may have been the case. But it quite passable. (Did not not come here for the food)

Overall- Ambiance was great, girl quality and quantity great. Upsell / Sharks- Little bit- But not too annoying. All the talk about all this is way overstated. Girls are simply doing their job (it is not the easiest job in the world). One of the girls told me- per club training / rules- they are required to state all the upsell options to all customers.

Great place, so all the comparisons and fine detailed analysis of different clubs- somewhat not too important. Plenty of very good girls, plenty of variety, very reasonable prices, safe comfortable- wholesome experience.

Left club 11:45, took cab and and the 00:15 from bad Homburg, landed back hotel 1:0- Done.

(The other club I visited was Mainhatten. I would 'overall' rank Mainhatten slightly higher. Will provide detailed comparison).

[WLFuk]

Have you guys ever had a girl told you she was afraid of her pimp and couldn't leave him because he knew where she stays along with her daughter and parents and she had to do this job to cover her cost to bring her to Germany? She was sold to the pimp by her boyfriend.

What can we do to help this girls?

She never ask me extra money and she only got 50 euro. After the session she cried but never ask more than what she needed. It bothered me. So anything we can do to help her?

Tell the club or police?

That sounds terrible. I'd check with her again to see if she wants help and if she does tell the police and help her out as best you can.

[Maxime]

Just because you are a German local who has a beef against this club, does not discount reality. Go and check the place out in mid-January. I think you will be happy. Don't take negatives from a few months ago and continue to paint the club with that dated brush. The guys mostly heaping negatives on Oase, have not even been to the club in the last 6-8 weeks or more.

O

The guy you write this to is not German but Dutch, so maybe that is the real issue.) LOL.

The one factor that puts Oase clearly behind both World and Sharks, is that attempted upsell by the girls is far more likely, and many are not happy with a 50 anymore.

I am German. I was an Oase regular for over a decade. I've visited the club last week. The "regular girls" are still providing good servicr at the standard pricing (DATY, DFK, BBBJ, covered sex in multiple positions). There were like 10 new girls who approached me that day and 6 or 7 of them asked me if I knew the prices. I sais yes. They said they are going to explain them to me anyway. 5 of them tried to tell me that for 50€ it's "suck&fuck", if you want DFK it's going to be 100€/30min.

And this is indeed the real problem with Oase currently. Before, Mauro and its team were very strict in setting the standard service level, including DFK, OWO, DATY, etc. Since this "governance" is gone, the girls do what they can to get more money. Of course their own right, but this, together with the open kino and the impossibility to order food outside, makes it no longer THE place to visit (but still a reasonable place to go of course, but others are now better regarding standard services of the girls, extensive pre / aftesales and food possibilities).

[Syzygies]

They said they are going to explain them to me anyway. 5 of them tried to tell me that for 50€ it's "suck&fuck", if you want DFK it's going to be 100€/30min.

HB

Its not just new girls that are doing this, I think. I experience less problems as rarely take just 30 mins. I do understand your sentiment. It is mood killing. The Palace is a real horror, in this way. I would tell the girl "don't bother", if she wants to explain the pricing. There have been quite a number of new girls in 2013 that are not trying this upsell. Examples were Elizabeth, Amalia (now at Sharks) , Sylvia (also gone) , etc. (I am sure there were others).

My problem at Oase is just the number of favourite girls that left in the last year or so. This has caused Oase to fall behind the others for a period. I am willing to try Oase again in 2014 in case of collecting some new favourites.

[Smuler]

I'll be at Oase Friday

Beffen. I will be at GT on Friday, hopefully with your Dutch friend!

Best Regards,

Smuler

[Beffen1]

They said they are going to explain them to me anyway. 5 of them tried to tell me that for 50€ it's "suck&fuck", if you want DFK it's going to be 100€/30min. Even telling them that I've been visiting the club for 10 years didn't make them change their mind. It's not about the 70€, I was a regular at Palace in he good old times even when they raised the entrance to 75€.

No girl ever tried to make her own prices at Sharks or World. At least not with me. So I will still visit Oase, but on a less regular basis. Lookswise line-up was good, lots of young slim girls. Just my personal opinion. If you are willing to pay higher prices. Your choice.

HB

Hey bub,

I wish I could have seen your face when these new little gazelles explained the "pricing".

When a girl tries this, it's sometimes fun to try and change her mind and indoctrinate some service-minded ethic into her. Speaking of the good old days at Palace, one such girl who was a wiseass when it came to charging extra for GFE (kissing is 50 extra) , blonde lovely Andra, tried that on me. I simply explained that her look drives me crazy, and when I have comfort and good service from a girl who's looks make me crazy, I tend to stay an hour or more. She immediately warmed up and we had a couple of hot 1 hour sessions including souveniers.

Looks like I've got my work cut out for me next week trying to convert these arrogant new Oase honeys. It looks like my baby is already back in the old country and won't be around for my visit so I'll have time and libido to fan out and try some of the flock. I'll be at Oase Friday if you want to help me in the reindoctrination. Maybe some spankings are in order.

Regards,

Beffen