FKK Oase - Burgholzhausen

**Basketcase** · 09-24-08 06:41

Originally Posted by Henio

I am pretty sure Olivia is not around anymore. At least I have not seen her for a long time.

Originally Posted by Ortos

Olivia is long gone since last year, and no loss there, boys...

Ortos

Hi there,

Was the Olivia that is being referred to a slim petite Polish girl with no tattoos? I saw an Olivia at Oase recently and she has been there a few weeks now.

Regards

Londonbasketcase

**Travelerb69** · 09-24-08 04:58

This is a brief summary of the girls I sessioned in this club during July, August and September. All of them were still working during September so the info is of use.

-Santina, Polish, tall, about 1,70, big natural boobs, great body and beautiful face, Speaks good English. She has great looks but always looked cold and bored to me. In spite of that when I approached her she was nice. In the room she kissed, DATY, BBJB, 69, everything I wanted but was a bit passive. For some reason I had the feeling that I managed to extract the best from her, and it was not that much. Ok session but would not repeat or recommend.

-Vicki, Latvian, brunette, long hair, tanned, great body and nice face, except for her teeth. One of my favourites at the club .Really nice and easy-going never pushed me to session or rushed me in the room. Good English, fun to talk to, GFE, excellent BBJB, highly recommended. Repeat? Fucked her three times. I can not imagine Vicki providing bad service.

-Vera, Russian, short red/brown hair? This girl was recommended to me by our comrade Shark16. She is just average looking, but treated me as if I was her long-time lover she had not seen for a long time. Amazing session. She is not at Oase very often, and is pretty new in the business. If you like GFE, treat her well and will not regret it.

-Jennifer, Hungarian, long blond hair. Beautiful girl, both body and face. She has good reports here but with me was passive and a bit cold, so probably did not like me for some reason. Performed DFK, DATY, 69, fucked in several positions, but never really got involved. Did not work for me. Would not repeat.

-Timer, Hungarian, tall, about 1,75, strawberry blond. Friendly, great kisser, amazing blowjob skills, knows how to fuck. Highly recommended. Always works on the daily shift, would definitely repeat.

-Alexia, Russian, blond(fake), enhanced boobs, lots of tattoos, great body, nice arse. Good english and spanish. She has intrigued me since my first visit to Oase because we had a very nice talk and did not fuck because I was tired, but since then I always thought about fucking her but she looked cold and bored to me. She generally stays at the bar area at one of the higher tables with a bored look and do not session very often. Nevertheless, I invited her to the room and she totally surprised me: extremely wild session, total PSE, got 100% involved, likes it deep and hard. She loves having her pussy licked. Fucked so much I had to take a shower in the middle of the one hour session. Would definitely repeat.

-Michelle, Swiss, brunette, about 1, 70, brown curly long hair. This girl deserves all the reputation she has. She is a pro in the good sense. Perfect from the beginning to the end, fun to talk, always in a good mood, she performed her trade mark blowing me kneeled, great BBJB skills, total PSE, do not expect GFE. Finished in her mouth. Repeat? Yes.

-Samantha, half Dutch, half German. Blond, thin and beautiful girl .GFE and a very nice session, spent one hour. Would repeat, definitely.

-Hanna, Czech, blond long hair, tall and tanned. Generally stays near the bar and every now and then checks the kino. Hanna has a kind of a routine, always invites the customer to the kino, blows him and then goes to the room hands together. Very nice girl. Again more PSE then GFE. Terrific BBJB skills.

-Gabriela, Venezuela, small brunette. Total GFE, nice and sweet. Tight pussy. Never rushed the session, nice to talk. Repeat? Yes.

-Paula, Colombian, brunette, ***** look, hot body. I had been waiting for a while to fuck her, she was never at the club the days I was, had lots of expectation but got a bit frustrated. She is very nice and fun to talk to, mainly in Spanish, her native tongue. However, she kept talking and making jokes into the room sometimes making me lose my concentration. Great BBJB, more PSE than GFE. Repeat? No, do not think so.

-Linda, Greek, brunette, long brown hair. Somewhat average look but I find her absolutely charming. Good english and great personality. In the room, simply amazing. GFE, however not a very good kisser. Loves 69. I really liked this girl, highly recommended.

-Nina, blond young German, thin with big enhanced boobs. She is an attractive next-door-type girl, very nice session, GFE, spent 1 hour and a half with her. Very soft BBJB, no hands at all(I like it). Lovely girl. She is new at the club, not hardened yet and told me only works during the weekends.

-Veronica, Latvian, tall (1,75) brunette with long brown curly hair. Great body and so so face.She approached me and somehow by impulse I decided to fuck her without much talk. Big mistake. Cold and professional in the bad sense. In the room, did not kiss, said she only does that during 1 hour sessions or with CIM pre-arranged, trying to up sell. I replied that in the first session I always go for half an hour first and then might extend depending on how things go, but it was useless. She was so mechanical during the session and I felt such a bad vibration from her that within 20 minutes session I realized I would not cum and I was the one to finish the session before time was up, just wanted to get rid of her. Would not fuck her again even for free.

-Sophie, Czech, blond bleached hair, tall (1,70), beautiful face and good body, a bit thin. I met her at her very first day at Oase. Speaks almost no English. Terrific session, 100% GFE, excellent BBJB, would definitely repeat.

-Francie, German, blond short hair, 1,65, a bit chubby but not fat really. Met her on the same day as Sophie and it was also her first day at Oase. She used to work at Palace before, which scared me and turned on all my shark-alert detectors. Since she was friendly, decided to take her to a room and made no mistake. She was a bit defensive at first, but then really opened up, great kisser and very nice body to fuck. I came just before the first 30 minutes time went by and proposed to extend, came again at the end of the second half hour, perfect timing and no complaints from her. Repeat? Yes.

**Jackyo** · 09-23-08 21:38

You capture the sense of what it is to make a connection very well!

This is why I visit clubs. I'm not too much into girls who are all business. They are no fun at all.

In my old age its not about sex but about intimacy. And believe it or not, one can find intimacy at an FKK club if one knows how to make connections.

It not about what services she provides in the room. I almost never remember exactly what we did.

If she was funny and communicative though, that I remember very well.

The physical act itself is a good thing to experience but she has to tickle a part of my brain which reacts to more than the physical act for me to declare her a true GFE.

Those kinds of connections lead to longer, more intense sessions where she is in tune with what you want and you are in tune with what she wants.

Sure I visit PTs too but I also look for the same thing at a PT and guess what? Sometimes I find it there too... the advantage being that at a PT if you click you are in for long extended sessions with no clock running in the background.

Some guys think these clubs are for the socially challenged who can't score in real life. Au contraire!. If you know how to turn on the charm and you know how to make a selection, its amazing what kind of sessions you can have.

**Basketcase** · 09-23-08 21:11

i know there are guys that look for the elusive girl friend experience (gfe) and then there are the guys that insist on a certain amount of time spent with the girl before taking her to the room.

i am maybe in the category that if i like what i see then i just go up to her and say "can you take me to the zimmer" - i do this most oft in golden time as it is difficult to get the girls on their own as they sit by the ledge on bar stools in a long line of girls. i also do the same in oase - at times following after a girl i see across the room that catches my eye.

during the recent automechanika messe in frankfurt i found that i was getting quite a few interludes where i was spending a lot of quality and intimate times with girls that did not lead to sessions but somehow the girls did not mind and kept beaming at me whenever we bumped into each other.

dark haired katya from romania was one. she would spend a lot of time on the 2 loungers in the whirlpool area resting or playing on her handy. she would also sit on the 3 loungers in the sauna hut or sit on a bench in the pit in between the two saunas just leading out into the garden.

katya and i had been making eyes and smiles at each other for a couple of months now but i had never been to the zimmer with her.

one time we were both sitting on loungers by the whirl pool and we got to talking and then it was delicate touches and carresses. it then got more intimate. we did this for ages and in the end i had to say stop lest i thought i would be charged for making merry with her body for frei. there was no animosity for my request that we stop or even mention of a zimmer coming of the long time spent. i just think she wanted to be with someone.

anyway, i found another isg punter liked her look and decided to connect people together. i got the isg punter to follow me and went over to katya and said "katya, this is xxx, he is intrigued by you" and then "xxxx this is katya, treat her well". next thing i know the isg guy has taken katya away to the room for 2.5 hours. the guy did not even come up for air.

anyway, after that katya has great smiles and waves for me.

similarly, i had been lightly declining sessions in a fun way with samantha of germany. i felt bad so everytime i decline a session with samantha. she is a pretty girl and really fun. she has a tongue in cheek way with the punters. one incident was a guy had asked her a session and then countermanded that request saying he had to go [CodeWord134]. samantha bit exasperated by the guy's unpreparedness yelled "schnell" "raus" chasing him to the men's locker room.

when it came to it i noticed some isg guys i knew who said that they liked her look so i got them all lto go with samantha by introducing them to samanatha. they all enjoyed their time with samantha and whenever i am in oase, samantha gave my hand a squeeze as one would give a loved one. an intimate moment.

samantha always comes over to say hi and catch up - only a light push for sessions. samantha is really chilled at the end of the night (say 3am to 5am) and is happy to just chat. samantha and i chat quite often when she has finished up and dressed in civilian clothing waiting for closing time when the management let the girls leave oase for the night.

then another time i found two girls that had just recently started at oase from poland. i connected the two new girls together and was proud of their way that they looked together - two slim petite long haired girls with naturla b cups, carefully groomed - one blond and the other dark haired. i gave my best explanation of how oase worked and where everything was.

the blond was a real looker and was excellent in the room. i did not go with the dark haired one. anyway both kept tabs on me - making eyes and smiles at me throughout my stay.

then one night the two cute polish girls were sitting on a couch in the main room and i asked to sit with them. i was spunked out and they knew it. there was another guy on the couch so there was 4 of us sitting there but the girls were very petite so did not take up much room and it was cosy sitting squashed up with the naked girls.

we got to talking and i began to massage the dark haired one and then a also massaged the blond one. because the dark haired one was sitting next to me and the blond one further over i concentrated on the dark haired one - massaging her head, eyes, neck, her hair, her back, her legs, all over. i did this for a hour.

the other guy finally left the couch and then we felt room to breath better and spread out a bit.

during this time guys would walk by and watch me and these two pretty girls on the couch together with hands and lips all over the place. guys would come over and talk to the blond or the dark haired girl but they were not interested.

it was while before the blond one went off to check on customers and said she would come back later.

i kept my attention on the dark haired one.

provoker came over and he joined the dark haired girl and me on the couch. we were well tightly packed on the couch again now with 4 of us. we talked and i continued to fondle and kiss the girl.

tania came by and said that she would spend time with provoker if she could not find business.

after a while tania of germany came back over and said for provoker to follow her to another couch to become intimate together with her man.

yasmina of serbia and vanessa of croatia came by and said we looked sickly and we should go get a room.

me and the dark haired girl were on the couch for 1.5 hours. i had never been with a session with her before.

the dark haired girl then said let us go to a room -. she lead me to a frei zimmer and we went back to being intimate for 1 hour. staff were tapping on doors and checking if we were going to finish. we just kept on going. she kept me in the room to closing time and only left me when security was tossing people out of zimmers.

the dark haired girl went off to the girls' lockers to change and intimated to me to head the other way to the men's lockers. there was no charge.

i bid my dark haired babe good bye and was atonished that i had 2.5 hours including 1 hour in a room with a beautiful girl and there was no compensation involved apart from the intimatcy one would expect from a girl friend.

it was like another time with another girl but she was a brunette freelancer from koln and was working at oase and we just hit it off and spent ages in the room but she only wanted a nonimal fee since she enjoyed it so much.

these events stick with me that at times you do receive magical moments at the fkks that make you wonder about the kindness of people and the connections that can change an encounter for the better.

as some other isg guys describe me - look for the smiley happy guy that seems to know quite a lot of the girls and that is lbc.

**Toscana** · 09-23-08 08:46

Thanks for the interesting reports.

You seem to have handled the disagreement with Stefanie very successfully. And she seems to have been very reasonable too. I believe you would have had to pay EUR 100 if you had indeed gone to the management. It's up to us to stop the CIM happening.

Most importantly you kept cool. A real argument would have spoilt your good first impressions of the club. Sounds like a promising beginning to a long career to me :-) :-)

**Basketcase** · 09-22-08 23:45

Hi Hessen Bub,

Originally Posted by Hessen Bub

Girls still believe to make more money on messe guests, but with the stress and the waiting times for free rooms - I still don't believe they do.

During the peak times people were waiting for the frei zimmers for about 30-45 minutes and still only paying the €50 fee for the 30 minute session added on top. During the 30-45 minute waits you could make play with your lady performing DFK, breast licking, arse fondling, pussy licking or getting a nice wet blow job without a condom from her to keep you entertained while you waited for a frei zimmer from when the correct time is counted. It felt really GFE having this time with the girl, but as people say here about the pre-session time does not count for spending time with a girl.

So if it was 30 minute wait plus 30 minutes in the room plus say 10 minutes for getting paid and negotiating the crowds to get cleaned up after the sessions before returning to the floor for another punter then the girl's run rate is €50 for 70 minutes.

One would think on a less busier night that the run rate would be higher.

Originally Posted by Hessen Bub

As said: Come early, get the girls you want to, leave early. Messe closes at around 6, most people go for dinner and then they hit the FKKs. I can just advise to leave Oase or Palace before 9 or 10 pm.

During the day time the girls seemed to working through the early morning and daytime punters. Special mention for Lucia of Italy/Romania was doing a roaring trade across the days I saw her at Oase. It was like she was doing 2-3 guys per hour as I kept seeing her at the valuables lockers getting compensated.

Your consideration of the timing sounds correct - I thought the same that the messe crowds came after having finished the trade show at say 6pm, taking a meal to entertain clients to say 9 or 10 pm and then coming to the clubs at say 10-11 pm or even later. This line of thought held true for all the messe crowds coming so later in the evening.

The day time was relatively empty considering the thousands of extra potential clients all across the Frankfurt entertainment districts including the FKKs. There were girls just waiting around for customers so you could take your time to pick.

Then again many of the girls I like do not start work until late. A particular favourite of mine - a Deutsch blond does not start work until 21:00 working until 05:00. Similarly a particular Deutsch blond favourite of Provoker's does not start until 21:00 as well. Both these girls' friends - Lindsay Lohan look alike blond Sunny of Berlin, Deutschland and slim blond Samantha of Nord Rhein Westfalen, Deutschland start much earlier at say 16:00 working to 05:00 closing.

Another new favourite of mine does not start until 22:00 meaning that my stays at Oase get stretched between the early starters at 10:00 to 11:00 like light brown and blue eyed Mariella of Siberia, curly yellow haired Melana of Tunisia (yay I got another African country off my list), Strawberry blond Timea of Hungary, blond Lena of Slovakia and Brunette Irina of Russia to the afternoon starters like blond but now with red ends Samantha of NRW and very blond and gorgeous arsed Laura of Latvia (JonTom agreed that Laura had an excellent arse) to the even later starters between 21:00 to 22:00.

If I want to see them all then I have a long day.

The feedback from FKK Palace was that the place was mental with customers. The carpark was so jam packed and all up and down the street. The same was at Oase but also many taxis so the number of cars did not seem as bad since Oase is so far from Frankfurt city where the messe is.

FKK World was in the Wiesn mode with bier on tap from 20 September onwards. The feedback from there was that it was not too bad in terms of over crowdedness. I did not partake of the bier at the World Wiesn.

**Avutarda** · 09-22-08 22:00

Just under two weeks ago I visited Palace and Oase within a couple of days, during a 3-day business trip. Reports of my exploits at the two clubs appear separately, but here are some general observations and thoughts.

First, reading the lists beforehand is a huge help, even if I found it almost impossible to remember all the names/descriptions mentioned. Many thanks to all the posters whose reports I have read while lurking for the last year or two. My first ever FKK visit, to FI in 06, I had made a list of girls to avoid and girls to look out for, which was some help (my first ever session was with Daria from Poland, mentioned a few times on the FI list and with good reason. Not the prettiest, but really passionate, and porn-film sloppy BBBJ). However in the bigger clubs though I recognized one or two names, it is only in retrospect that I can make associations. I note, eg, that my first Palace girl, Gina, has been well reported on before (no surprise, she is gorgeous and it was a decent session), and I also read with interest after the fact, that another report notes an element of slyness in Stephanie, who otherwise was a great performer.

I have realized now, after this last week and my previous sessions at FI that I do not really have a "type" as such; rather I have been intrigued by the variety on offer and looking to experience this. Also have realized that, not especially by design, I have rarely gone with the best looking girls. Rather the ones I felt there was some connection with. In fact the main exception to this (gorgeous but aloof Carolina from Hungary at Palace) was a disappointment. Also, again without really thinking about it, I have discovered that I am more interested in a good BBBJ than anything else. So far, the service in this regard has generally been excellent, though I have yet to find a girl who would or could deep throat my average length. I would be delighted to hear recommendations on this front.

My experiences at the two FRA clubs were really quite different. This is unsurprising since I visited Palace on the w/e (Sun), at night, while Oase was weekday (Wed) in the day. Inside Oase felt more claustrophobic. Fewer open areas, and lots of little corridors you have to walk down to get from A to B. I was also slightly disappointed that the rooms had quite dim lighting that could not be adjusted. At Palace, Gina asked me how I wanted the lights. Up, of course. If I am with a girl who is unattainable in real life then I want to watch, no matter how unpleasant the sight of me in the mirror might be. On the other hand, I really liked the outdoor atmosphere at Oase, swimming, sun-bathing and reading by the pool, and I felt quite chilled. Oase felt more like a place to relax where I could also have great sex, in contrast to the feeling at Palace where, I guess because it is all indoors, the atmosphere was more in-your-face.

In terms of the lineups, in both clubs there were about 30-40+ girls, and fewer guys (until a rush at midnight in Palace changed the balance). I would say the line-ups were comparable in terms of looks, with Oase probably shading it, though I actually talked to fewer girls at Oase. Nearly all the girls at Palace and Oase spoke some English, many really quite well. This was in pleasant contrast to FI where not many did, making it harder to establish any kind of rapport before, during or after a session. At Palace I spoke to many, even most of the girls at some stage or other in the evening. On the other hand spending a lot of time by the pool at Oase meant I missed quite a bit of the talent which stayed indoors. Although there was a regular circuit of the pool made by a decent selection of the girls, not all of them came outside and those that didn't, I didn't speak to.

So, not much to choose between them on the basis of two quite different experiences. I guess the bottom line is that, marginally, Oase gets my vote because. Despite the minor unpleasantness with Stpehanie. Both sessions at Oase provided GFE. Of course the standard rider, YMMV. Cheers, A.

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**Avutarda** · 09-22-08 21:57

As already noted in the Palace list, I am newbie to posting on the list, though I have lurked, on and off for a couple of years. I am a relative FKK newbie, having previously been to Flamingo Island in Ettlingen twice, once two years ago and once last year, having "discovered" it on this list.

A business trip to Germany involving flying in and out of Frankfurt, with a little bit of slack in my timetable at either end tempted me to try the FRA clubs. Another post on the Palace list tells the story of my first night in Germany.

After having a pretty good, if not absolutely mind-blowing time at Palace on Sunday, I had considered a session at FI on either the Monday or Tuesday night but combination of too much work, tiredness, and limited budget decided me on waiting until Wed for another FKK round.

Originally my plan was to go to Feigenblatt in Worms as my pre-flight Wed destination, not least because the reputed 10E entry would mean I could enter and leave without having a session if I wanted, without the feeling that I'd blown too much dough. But in view of the weather looking reasonable, a little unexpected extra time on my hands, good reviews on this forum, and its proximity to the airport, I had a change of heart and headed for Oase. I had done virtually no research on list prior to arrival, so my choices were based on gut (and other! ) instinct.

Satnav got me there around about midday, and initially I wander to explore noting that despite the time of day there is still quite a good array of talent on offer. I park myself near the pool to chill for a bit. Not as sunny as Tues, but still plenty warm enough to be outside, and occasional bursts of true sunshine.

Lisa, Hungary (5'5", 26, B/C, shoulder length dark hair, tinted red). After half an hour or so I decide to wander around again to check out the talent properly, and I catch the eye of Lisa, standing on the steps up to the pool area. Although slightly lined and not as pretty, she reminds me a little of Rachel Stevens (former S-Club singer). In "real life" she would be a definite 1 on the binary scale. In Oase she is not the prettiest, but certainly nice looking, and more to the point she stirs something in me that means she goes on the mental shortlist I am compiling. My wandering ends in the kino and just as I settle into a sofa a girl comes in a sits beside me. As my eyes adjust I realize it's Lisa who has obviously followed me in. I decide why not, and chat to her for a bit before some DFK. There's a gentle suggestion of the extras on offer, but not really an up-sell, and there's no adverse reaction when I say 30min, standard. But can I have a massage for starters? We move to room; she disappears to get oil but returns soon and DFK resumes followed by short BBBJ. Knowing I would come quickly, I stop this and lie on my front and she gives unhurried and very relaxing massage, gradually working her way lower down. As I lift my bum slightly her hand strokes me, and then I feel her fingers and then her tongue tickling my balls, perineum and even, briefly, where the sun don't shine. Ready now to resume and she gives a nice BBBJ with plenty of ball licking and sucking, more perineum stimulation and I come well satisfied. No rush to get out of room even though by the looks of things we may well be just over the 30. Turns out it is her b'day on Monday.

Shower, sauna (chat w/ German regular about football, clubs, etc), dip in pool to cool off then lie poolside where I read and recover.

Stephanie, Columbia (5'4" (?. How can you tell when the heels range from one or 2 up to six inches! ), D-cup, long dirty-blonde hair). Some bubbly chatter behind me and I look up to see fairly square-faced girl who I do not find immediately attractive. She sees me looking and comes over to sit on the sun-lounger and starts stroking genrly along my body making it impossible to concentrate on my book. Big full lips, large natural breasts, and now she's up close, I realize I quite wicked and beautiful smile, even if she also sports some unsightly scarring on her midriff. I explain have just sessioned and maybe later, so she smiles, kisses me slowly and deeply while dragging a hand across my crotch and departs, deliberately dropping her towel and wiggling her deliciously round buttocks provocatively.

Half and hour later she comes back. And this time her charms lead to a visible stirring and I decide we should head for a room. She lies on her stomach so I can admire and gently slap her gorgeous butt and spead her cheeks for a priceless view, then I roll her over, straddle her stomach and she takes me into her mouth. Switch to titty-fuck, alternating with her mouth, then I switch to below while she carries on performing a commendable BBBJ. As I am about to come I pull out and tell her, no CIM, but she moves back and starts licking and sucking, getting a mouthful of cum in the process. I repeat, no, and move away from her, rather damping the climax. Unrushed exit but when we get to the lockers and I hand her 50E she says no, 100. I feared this as soon as I realised what she was doing, but I refuse, and point out I had twice said no, and she disregarded this. She continues to insist and I continue gently but forcefully to refuse. Eventually she says, ok, how about 20. At this point I'm thinking, "now I'm in one of those situations I have read about on the list, and we'll have to talk to the management. " but again I refuse. Now she shrugs and walks away. A victory of sorts, but not a pleasant experience. Interestingly 30 mins later as I go to leave I see her and get a kiss, all apparently forgiven. I guess she was just trying it on.

As I get ready for a final shower and change into civvies I chat to Jane from Bulgaria, 5'2" or so, curvaceous, C-cup, silver chain around her waist, dark, frizzy hair, girl-next-door face and sweet, slightly shy manner. I am disappointed I have t leave because I felt the connection here too. Sigh.

End of a great few days when work has been productive and some excellent extra-curricular. Many thanks to all those whose posts I have followed!

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**Hessen Bub** · 09-22-08 11:33

What do you expect? That's Messetime in real life, it has been like this for years at Palace and Oase. World is to far away to really get into trouble.

Girls still believe to make more money on messe guests, but with the stress and the waiting times for free rooms - I still don't believe they do.

As said: Come early, get the girls you want to, leave early. Messe closes at around 6, most people go for dinner and then they hit the FKKs. I can just advise to leave Oase or Palace before 9 or 10 pm.

HB

**Basketcase** · 09-22-08 01:09

Originally Posted by Shark16

Earlier this week on a particular day 111 girls were registered in for work in Oase. This is said to be an All Time High for the club (several girls told me).

The high number of girls was due to an "autopart messe" taking place. This particular messe is generally known to be the high peak week of the year for all the Hessen Three I think.

There are several rumours of correct number of girls. I heard everything from 110 to 150, but believe 111 to be the most trustworthy.

Despite the high number of girls, Oase looked like a gay club from 11pm and the rest of the night with standing room only. Not a good time to visit IMHO. Long waiting for rooms (1 hour seemed to be the norm) and lots of frustrated girls.

Sammtag at Oase was not bad in terms of crowds but yes, long waits for rooms.

Frietag at Oase was the worst. It was a gay club as you say. Many men causing stress and no going to the room. Guys were in normal clothes and not changing into towels. Guys had to share lockers if they wanted to change into towels. I think some guys thought towel dress was optional and walked around fully clothed in all areas of Oase.

Many stressful scenes occured over misunderstandings over prices and what was being paid for. I think it was to do with the new visitors not knowing the FKK commercial model.

I spent ages with Lisa from Poland who entertained me with blowjobs and DFK while we waited for a frei zimmer in the hallways. Nice girl. Jontom was impressed when I introduced her to him.

Sessions were happening everywhere - in the alcoves, in the relax area, in the hallway to the two rooms next to the bar area where the food is served over the counter, in the sauna rooms where the three loungers are placed, on the two loungers in the whirl pool area, in the hallway to the girls' locker room where a black couch is placed (me too!!!), each couch in the kino was used as well (the description I use is National Geographic). The 4 tents outside where is was very cold (8 degress celsius) was also being used too - girls were ignoring the cold. I know my schwanz would freeze in that kind of condition. Those men must be horny.

Word from some girls on Mittwoch was that Oase was not that busy but lots of girls. I would temper this feedback with evening shoft girls compared to day shift girls that leave work before 11pm since that was when the crowds really turned up. However, the automechanika messe was meant to be 16-21 September and the evening of 20 September was busy not nuts like 19 September.

Donnerstag's feedback was that it was okay but not stupid busy. Maybe people know it was dessous tag. I still have never been to a FKK on a dessous tag, just socks day on Montag at FKK Palace.

A couple of girls complained that there was so many girls and not many paying men. "So many girls" was heard several times when new girls turned up.

There were many new girls and many reportedly will be there to stay.

The customer queue at reception on Freitag was neverending. Guys were still coming in at 4am having just one hour of time available to find a girl and still wait one hour for a room.

Lockers in the hallway to the girls' bedrooms upstairs were also being used for customers. I am referring to hall that you enter by the door in the reception with the picture girl of the naked lady with her head tilted back and her brunette hair flowing down her back.

In saying all of this, a good time was had and many wonderful memories and special times that will be cherished from the one time messe visitors to the regular attendees. For me, I had some extraordinary for me, encounters that awed me - it reminded me that is sometimes not about the money and it is how you treat the girls and build relationships no matter how short and infrequent you see a girl. Somehow it pays dividends from the girl directly indirectly from girls talk about you to their friends and they know you are trusted.

Backchannel feedback and introductions help.

Scary for me thing is that girls know my favourites. I would be sitting on the couch and girls unsolicited would come up saying "hey LBC you waiting for XXXX? She is not here because of ...." or "XXXXXXX is not here today since she is on holidays or cannot stand the messe crowds".

Kind regards

Londonbasketcase

**Basketcase** · 09-22-08 00:40

Originally Posted by Super Goltzis

I'll visit this weekend frankfurt and plan to spent a lot of my time to this heaven as I learned from this thread. As i read your replies I have long time to hear about Mia.I m fan of her and I would like to know if anybody knows anything about her. In my calls to the reception the answer is maybe next wee . but 1 month now nothing. Also can you tell me which other tall woman is now there?

Thanks a lot

To Super Goltzis,

Mia of Croatia is back at Oase. She was spotted working the messe crowds on Sammtag, 20 September 2008 working the late afternoon to evening shift.

I believe she is back from holidays.

Regards

Londonbasketcase

**Shark16** · 09-21-08 21:15

Earlier this week on a particular day 111 girls were registered in for work in Oase. This is said to be an All Time High for the club (several girls told me).

The high number of girls was due to an "autopart messe" taking place. This particular messe is generally known to be the high peak week of the year for all the Hessen Three I think.

There are several rumours of correct number of girls. I heard everything from 110 to 150, but believe 111 to be the most trustworthy.

Despite the high number of girls, Oase looked like a gay club from 11pm and the rest of the night with standing room only. Not a good time to visit IMHO. Long waiting for rooms (1 hour seemed to be the norm) and lots of frustrated girls. On such nights I doubt service level is at its peaks. It's simply impossible. It is easy to understand the girls if you look at it from their perspective. Plenty of men, yes, but most of them are not regulars who know the "FKK etiquette". Many of them will not go to the room and are only there to watch. Some are rude and disrespectful trying to grab tits and ass for free refusing to commit themselves. And if a girl makes a catch, she has to fight to get a room keeping her man warm and happy for an hour before the money starts ticking in. I learnt that not few girls give up and leave at midnight.

How to play the game on messe nights (from a man's perspective)? Here are a few lessons learned:

1.
Arrive early and take advantage of the unique selection of girls! Daytime is actually quite relaxed as on a normal day. By 3pm the evening shift arrives early trying to benefit from the crowd. But the men does not show up in big numbers before say 10-11 pm. This means there are extraordinary opportunities from 3- 10pm. Go for it!

2.
If you are not able to show up before the crowds come in at 10- 11 pm, I would probably not wait too long before going to a room (the crowds get even bigger and the girls even more frustrated after midnight). BUT if there is long waiting for rooms I would probably check the situation in front of the rooms first inspecting which of the girls who are able to keep her cool and entertain their men without frustration. This is crucial. If you find the right girl, the waiting time can be prosperous. With the wrong girl it can be a catastrophe.

3.
Once in the room you should expect the doors to be opened every 5 mnts by girls trying to find a vacant room (on these nights they do not trust the "besetzt" signs), so this is not for the weak at heart. For the exhibitionists this is prime time, as the girls are most interested in having the sessions started ANYWHERE asap.

The above apply for Oase, but I am pretty sure the same apply even more for Palace, and maybe a little less for World (due to geography). I also think this week with the autopart messe was the worst of the year, and that other messe may not necessarily have such bad influence on Oase (Palace obviously being more affected).

I would like to hear other experiences from crowded messe nights. How should we best deal with it (other than stay away)?

**Basketcase** · 09-19-08 02:08

hi jontom,

thank you for the oase trip notes. good work to do so many on one visit.