FKK Oase - Burgholzhausen

[Chicafan]

I like it, no doubt. But it comes with a price potentially at FKKs. I feel like one of the surest ways to catch a cold or flu is from deep kissing. I had had an experienced hobbyist make the case that it is not likely to be passed from kissing but more from mucus if she sneezes or wipes her nose with her hands and you come in contact that way but that you could kiss that same girl and not pick it up. That makes no sense to me but who knows. Another consideration is that it's very likely the girl you want to deep kiss just got done deep throating some guy and very possibly had a load of splooge dumped in her mouth. If not the last guy, surely within the last hour or so. Does that bother you? Maybe not and maybe it shouldn't. Or if she has french kissed 5-10 guys already that evening, you may be catching some germs that one of those guys carried. So then you have to wonder what her cleaning habits are after she has a session. Who really knows what it is? I can't tell. You have to go by feel on that one. And as someone mentioned, some of the the girls have some bad dental work where a tooth or two really needs to be fixed; and I'm talking about the kind that look a little dark or worse. Yeah DFK is great but there have been a couple times I was glad that I didn't kiss a girl because of the risk and because it wouldn't have made the session with her that much better to take the risk. I even try not to kiss the first few nights of a six night tour just so I lessen the risk of getting sick halfway into my trip. If I get sick on my last day, so be it. But getting sick in the middle and riding something out while visiting the clubs is murder. Having said all that and running the risk of being a buzz kill, DFK with a passionate girl who is enjoying the love session is undoubtedly intimate and beautiful. In fact, when they won't kiss at the start it almost seems like they aren't going to enjoy being with you or when they don't kiss during it's like they aren't enjoying it. Both can be a real downer for the session. I wonder how many don't do it for health reasons or because they have a guy they save it for? Who knows.

[Routard]

. But then I'm much, much, but so much better looking than even Chivaz or Routard, so what can you expect...... LOL.

Contacting dudes on sexforums, meeting them in nudist saunas, and getting compliments about how I look like...mother what am I doing!

[Jackyo]

Well I had a really good day at Oase last Wednesday (and what a difference to Palace!). I went with five girls, all of whom had absolutely no problem with kissing. But then I'm much, much, but so much better looking than even Chivaz or Routard, so what can you expect...... LOL.

One of the girls, Christina from CzechRep (and incidentally a friend of the fabled Sonia, also great looking, but without Sonia's silis), actually initiated pretty violent couch action on one of the stools in the eating area, which was great until I nearly fell off and she mercifully suggested we go elsewhere. So DFK is in my experience certainly not dead at Oase.

If there is little or no couch action, I always check explicitly whether the girl has a problem with kissing or any of the other little perversions that make a good session for me, before going to the rooms. I would recommend this to anyone, as it also has the advantage of letting the girl know what you like in advance. They've heard it all before, and with an honest provider it cuts out most misunderstandings up front.

.. there is a difference between DFK which is done with heart and soul and DFK which is as most perfunctory.

The only FKK where I've had DFK done consistently well is Bernds. At Babylon and Wiago, it used to be that way too.

Its done at other NRW clubs which are on my circuit: Blue Note, Cocoon, Heavensgate, etc... but quality can be spotty. And in some of these clubs there are signs which say that ZK (DFK in English) is part of the service offering.

Some women have questionable dental work and you have to think twice about trying to examine their fillings or count their teeth with your tongue.

You know when she really isn't into it when she puckers up, sticks her tongue out and you duel with it but doesn't really let you massage her tonsils with your tongue... and she doesn't really try do the same to you either.

As a result of this and my PT experience, I set my DFK expectations low. It doesn't take much for most women to exceed those expectations.

Kaleu had a story.

He always insisted that DFK be part of the experience and he would ask the girls during the preliminaries if they would kiss.

He was at a club and he asked the object of his lust if she kissed. Yes, she said. Off they go to a room.

She then kisses him on the forehead, on the cheeks and on his chest but didn't allow any lingual penetration otherwise.

He complains and she says: "The question asked was whether I kissed and yes, I do".

I had a good laugh reading this.

[Hessen Bub]

Does anyone know which day would be the best day to visit Oase in two weeks...either Monday April 30th or Tuesday May 1st?? Also, how many girls might be working on these days?

Difficult to say, as May 1st is "Tag der Arbeit" (Labour Day) in Germany. I'd think there might be more girls on Monday, April 30th, as this is the evening known as "Tanz in den Mai" (Dancing into May). There should be enough girls at Oase anyway, and I do not know if this one day even does have an effect on their working schedule.

@Dedalus: Judith (Hungary) is one of the best performers in Oase and in FKK-Clubs in Germany. She was good at Atlantis, too. Try a threesome with her and her friend Leyla.

Hessen Bub

[Toscana]

Well I had a really good day at Oase last Wednesday (and what a difference to Palace!). I went with five girls, all of whom had absolutely no problem with kissing. But then I'm much, much, but so much better looking than even Chivaz or Routard, so what can you expect...... LOL.

One of the girls, Christina from CzechRep (and incidentally a friend of the fabled Sonia, also great looking, but without Sonia's silis), actually initiated pretty violent couch action on one of the stools in the eating area, which was great until I nearly fell off and she mercifully suggested we go elsewhere. So DFK is in my experience certainly not dead at Oase.

If there is little or no couch action, I always check explicitly whether the girl has a problem with kissing or any of the other little perversions that make a good session for me, before going to the rooms. I would recommend this to anyone, as it also has the advantage of letting the girl know what you like in advance. They've heard it all before, and with an honest provider it cuts out most misunderstandings up front.

[Breadman]

Does anyone know which day would be the best day to visit Oase in two weeks...either Monday April 30th or Tuesday May 1st?? Also, how many girls might be working on these days?

[Dedalus]

Hey Ded,

I can always trust you to throw a punch or two below the belt, but you're kicking now as well? I should know better though not to give you the opportunity :-)

Back to the subject of the thread, anyone shagged an Oase girl lately?

True. It is the dark side of my nature. I can't help it sometimes. I even have you to thank for a big success today. Some gratitude, uh?

Oase girls that I have recently shagged: The last one was Judith. Beffen: If you are out there. I have a feeling that you would click quite well with her. You like beautiful women with luminous dark eyes and lustrous, raven-black hair, right? Oh, and she kisses too.

Cheers,
Dedalus, looking for a kinder, gentler me ;-)))

[Henio]

Hey Ded,

I can always trust you to throw a punch or two below the belt, but you're kicking now as well? I should know better though not to give you the opportunity :-)

Back to the subject of the thread, anyone shagged an Oase girl lately?

[Dedalus]

Hey Peter, you aint to bad yourself ;-)

When I introduced the two of you to each other, I had no idea.....

Cheers,

Dedalus

[Henio]

... so when she starts sending her tongue down my throat I am always pleasantly surprised.

I have done a lot of PT visits over the last two, ... make that three years, and this is why.

A very low percentage of women at a PT kiss. Mostly they turn their faces away when you try.

ok, I thought you were refering to the FKKs. But did the PTs ever have a load of women that DFKed? Is'nt the PT kind of proving the "Tradegy of the Commons" where free access and unrestricted demand for a finite resource ultimately dooms the resource through over-exploitation?

Talk about fun subject for someones thesis! :-)

Hey Peter, you aint to bad yourself ;-)

[Jackyo]

... so when she starts sending her tongue down my throat I am always pleasantly surprised.

I have done a lot of PT visits over the last two, ... make that three years, and this is why.

A very low percentage of women at a PT kiss. Mostly they turn their faces away when you try.

[Hessen Bub]

I'd say that 90% of the girls I've been with at FKK-clubs do provide DFK. At least with me ...

Hessen Bub

[Peter]

I ain't gay in any way, and I can say that Chivaz is one of the best lookign mongers I have met. That being said, Routard is as well. they are what I consider to be good looking in men. think Dirk Benedict in the A-Team (you know Face).

witout revealing too much about Chivaz and Routard I can say that they look better than most of the rest of us.

[Routard]

Sorry, I can't confirm this too. During my last FKK tour, only at partytreff I had a few sessions without DFK. If there has been no coach action to check and a girl invites me for a session, I don't answer, just kiss her. If she answers my kiss, my answer is yes too. Kissing is great to check mutual chemistry.

DFK is very important for me. I use Listerine between each session, don't drink beer, don't smoke or don't eat garlic . I even surprised myself having less and less oral sex, as I found out that some girls feel uncomfortable with DFK after DATY or BBBJ.

[Henio]

... appears to be dying a slow death.

There are still clubs where it is practiced routinely (Bernds comes to mind) but its becoming more an exception than the rule elsewhere.

Now you have to assert your rights to a pre-coital and a post-coital session.

Is nothing sacred?

Are we standing on the edge of a precipice and what lies in front of us is a decline of FKK culture and civilization? Are there barbarians at the gate who are ready to take over the whole scene and institute mechanized and regimented sessions?

I have not noticed any changes in the DFK dept. for the last 5 years and I ain't no Brad Pitt and sure as hell am not getting any prettier as the years go by.

Are there any specific clubs are you are refering to where it is getting to be more an exception than the rule where it used to be different in the past?

Chivaz