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  1. #1268
    It's not only the hotel prices rising, but also the clubs like Palace and Oase beeing crowded and the service level of the girls going down. I try to avoid convention time in the clubs or be there between early afternoon and leave at around 10pm.

    It is only the big conventions and only a certain type of visitors that do have an impact on the clubs, the "Büchermesse" for example was hardly noticed at Palace, but "Automechanica" made guests queue outside.

    Hessen Bub

  2. #1267
    Iseeu,

    Great report here and on the Living Room thread.

    It sounds like you have a lot of conversation with the girls. I'm curious about something. Do you speak German and/or other European languages? I found very few girls that spoke more than basic English and my German is basic-weak. I'm hoping to meet more girls that I do not have a language barrier with this next trip. I had little problem connecting sexually with the girls though so it was still great.

    Quote Originally Posted by Iseeu

    Couldn't find Gabriela or Claudia or Renata or Lizzie or Sophie or Lynette but I found Ines standing at the juncture where the small stairs branches off. Polish, blonde, 27, great figure, smiling eyes hidden behind schoolmarm glasses. I suggested that she find a place to sit and talk, while I got 2 drinks for us. As I'm waiting for the drinks she comes over and asks if I minded waiting, as a customer who had previously taken a rain check had come over and asked her to a room. She was so nice about it that gentleman that I am I said yes. She came back 9 minutes later! "Wow", I said, "that was quick, It won't be so quick with me." We went to sit down and I discovered the sweetest woman, such a nice person, quick to laugh, sly sense of humor. Began to kiss and heavy breath and all that touchy- feely stuff, and attracted an audience- we really weren't doing anything compared to what I had experienced the nigt before in Bernd's but remember there was no couch action going on at all except in the kino. Oase always had a healthy couch action culture. I assume that with the Messe mob scene the women weren't actually taking the time to sit on the couch, so there wasn't much opportunity for couch activity.

  3. #1266

    Messe calendar

    Quote Originally Posted by Chicafan
    FWIW, it really is important to plan your days in Frankfurt around their messes(?). Those conventions drive the price of hotel up dramatically. I'm leaving Frankfurt Sunday March 5th and Monday March 6th hotel prices jump from 64E to 199E at Monopol because of a convention that begins. The man at the hotel said these conventions happen as often as every two weeks during some periods. It's only by accident or luck I'm leaving the day before prices go up. For scheduling I'd really like to have a list of when the conventions are in town.
    ...can be found at http://www.messefrankfurt.com/corpor...frankfurt.html

  4. #1265
    Quote Originally Posted by Ortos
    Chicafan,

    If you need specific directions, I will repost them, because I know they may be buried somewhere... (Hey, maybe there should be a separate thread dedicated to Driving and Public Transport Directions to Clubs?)
    I just found your directions, thanks!
    I don't know why you are so down on the Franfurt Hbf area to stay. It is just across the street from major S-bahn and U-bahn stations, which gives you open access to anywhere in Frankfurt. The hotel options there are wider than anywhere else in the city, thus you have the best chance to find the best quality at the best price. But, if you go to, say, Flemmings Hotel Neue Borse next to Palace, you will pay significantly more Euros/night than at, say, the Excelsior and the like...
    I don't mean to sound down on the train station area and will be just fine there. For about $15US more I can stay at the Monopol which seems much nicer and is also by the train station. And yes, the Flemings at Palace is 120E plus tax. No thanks, I'll use the extra money to session.

    FWIW, it really is important to plan your days in Frankfurt around their messes(?). Those conventions drive the price of hotel up dramatically. I'm leaving Frankfurt Sunday March 5th and Monday March 6th hotel prices jump from 64E to 199E at Monopol because of a convention that begins. The man at the hotel said these conventions happen as often as every two weeks during some periods. It's only by accident or luck I'm leaving the day before prices go up. For scheduling I'd really like to have a list of when the conventions are in town.

  5. #1264
    Chicafan,

    Oase is located about a 25 minute drive north of Frankfurt. It is actually not too far from the town of Bad Homburg. The Oase club can be accessed via public transport + taxi. If you need specific directions, I will repost them, because I know they may be buried somewhere... (Hey, maybe there should be a separate thread dedicated to Driving and Public Transport Directions to Clubs?)

    I don't know why you are so down on the Franfurt Hbf area to stay. It is just across the street from major S-bahn and U-bahn stations, which gives you open access to anywhere in Frankfurt. The hotel options there are wider than anywhere else in the city, thus you have the best chance to find the best quality at the best price. But, if you go to, say, Flemmings Hotel Neue Borse next to Palace, you will pay significantly more Euros/night than at, say, the Excelsior and the like...

    Ortos

  6. #1263
    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Dude
    About two weeks ago, the little Dominicana (she is enthusiastic, has a somewhat big belly, is short, and not the youngest chick at Palace) had sex with a bloke on the couches along the wall next to where the motorcycle used to be - very unusual...
    That's "Ich ficke Deinen Arsch mit Zunge"-Kim. (I'll fuck your ass with my tongue). Not my kindagirl. But nice to talk to. ;-)

    Hessen Bub

  7. #1262

    I am in the same boat

    Quote Originally Posted by Iseeu
    Then again who's counting. My point is that the emphasis on coming is not what makes or breaks a session for me and I've reached the point in my life and mongering career, in which I am just as happy to spend quality GFE time with a woman that I'm clicking with and the mutual caressing and pleasure haze are far more important. I had a number of hour and longer FKK sessions that week in which I could have gone for another pop, but preferred the post-coital time, lingering in each other's arms to stretch out the orgasmic high.
    Actually, I did have multiple pops during my long sessions with Ines at Oase and Princess in Bernd's and only counted each of those once in my summary- so my actual pops score was 20 for the 3 days.
    At my age, I'm not counting any more.

    In some instances its minutes of poking combined with langurous lounging and then maybe renewed poking if I'm in the mood.

    But as I've wondered to myself: is it still sex if its just poking around without coming?

    What ever it is, its still enjoyable and recreational. And in the company of the right woman, the post-coital time can be just as cool as the actual time trying to build into a frenzied climax.

    I've encountered lots of women who are concerned if you don't come though.

    I once had a session at Cocoon with this blonde Turkish woman, Melek. I don't like being rushed and I didn't want her to think I was being cheap so as usual I booked a double session.

    I came once and we were just lying there enjoying the time together. She, however, insists that since I booked a double session that I had to come twice. So she chases me around the room while I try to fend her off while trying to convince her that yes, indeed, I am quite satisfied and its actually okay for us just to lie there together.

    Eventually she gave up.

    I haven't seen Melek since. She actually had worked as an au pair in Los Angeles and she said she spoke English. I never tested it though as I never speak English to the women at these clubs.

  8. #1261
    Is Oase in the immediate Frankfurt area? I looked through the thread for my answer but there's 85 pages and Palace's map doesn't tell me much.

    I want to go to Oase on a Thursday then Palace on Friday & Saturday, then back to Oase on Sunday. I have been to World and to me it's a long way and a hassle, time consuming, and expensive from Hbf so I'm trying to get a feel for what kind of jaunt it is from main area of Frankfurt to Oase.

    Hotels- The one night I've been to Frankfurt I stayed at the Excelsior by the Hbf and though it was prices right at 55E I don't know if I can stand four nights in that area. I'm planning to be in Frankfurt four nights. If you have any suggestions on where to stay to make the city more interesting please let me know.

  9. #1260
    Quote Originally Posted by Iseeu
    At World, I have seen and had public action in in the relax area downstairs, but it's not the norm, and there is also some in the kino.
    Same here, I have had sex downstairs at World, and it did attract a bit of attention since it is not that common.

    Quote Originally Posted by Iseeu
    At Palace, I only recall seeing public action in the kino, but I haven't been there in a while.
    About two weeks ago, the little Dominicana (she is enthusiastic, has a somewhat big belly, is short, and not the youngest chick at Palace) had sex with a bloke on the couches along the wall next to where the motorcycle used to be - very unusual...

  10. #1259

    I agree that Oase

    Quote Originally Posted by Jackyo
    .. is always Bernds in matters relating to public action.

    I agree. There is certainly public action going on in the Kinos at Oase and Palace and even for that matter at World and it exceeds that which you will find at several large NRW clubs where nothing takes place in the open at all.

    Its just not "in your face" public action and this is the reason I say that its sparse.

    I have had sex with women at World's Kino but I'd hardly characterize it as "out-in-the-open-with-all-the-lights-on-and-I don't-care-if-anyone-is watching" sex. Lighting in that Kino is subdued and its intention is not to provide full public viewing.

    I'd describe it as public sex with mood lighting (the flicker of the Kino screen).

    For fully exhibitionistic sex, I visit a PT or Bernds. The smaller Duesseldorf clubs such as Blue Note also offer more public action (and I'm not talking about couch action but full live sex).
    ...is the best of the Hessen 3. On good nights, there will be some couch action in the lounges, although since the seating arrangement is spread out, viewing this may be challenging. As has been noted here, there is alot of public action in the Oase kino, with decent viewing angles if that's your thing, and the round beds up front under the screen are in regular use (I know them well.)
    At World, I have seen and had public action in in the relax area downstairs, but it's not the norm, and there is also some in the kino.
    At Palace, I only recall seeing public action in the kino, but I haven't been there in a while.
    Bernd's is certainly the benchmark, and the intimate seating arrangements both downstairs and upstairs make for excellent viewing as well as opportunity for audience participation, critique, and humorous commentary, and very often while in the midst of the act the SP or even the customer will be trading barbs with the audience. You will also see both women and men openly fondling themselves in public. In fact for many of the women stroking their private parts while lying in the couch gash open is a form of advertising, a means of bringing attention to themselves.
    At any of the Hessen clubs, this would be a big thing. At Bernd's it almost goes unnoticed.

  11. #1258

    18 times in 3 days

    Quote Originally Posted by Jackyo
    ... this record is easily surpassed.

    My record is fourteen sessions with eight women (several were repeats) in one day. That was at a Partytreff.

    I have to admit that I don't come all of the time. Or more precisely: I CAN'T come all of the time.

    Our distinguished colleague, Svenfkk, comes each time, he says.
    ...and I came each time. I only provided a count of women that I'd been with, as part of my trip summary and stats, not to boast of my own "amazing" libido.
    Other than my evening at Beverly all of the sessions were FKK sessions which I find more personal than PT sessions. I had additional sessions at Beverly in which I didn't finish which i didn't count in my trip summary.

    Then again who's counting. My point is that the emphasis on coming is not what makes or breaks a session for me and I've reached the point in my life and mongering career, in which I am just as happy to spend quality GFE time with a woman that I'm clicking with and the mutual caressing and pleasure haze are far more important. I had a number of hour and longer FKK sessions that week in which I could have gone for another pop, but preferred the post-coital time, lingering in each other's arms to stretch out the orgasmic high.
    Actually, I did have multiple pops during my long sessions with Ines at Oase and Princess in Bernd's and only counted each of those once in my summary- so my actual pops score was 20 for the 3 days.

  12. #1257

    Very good

    Was at Oase this week.

    Girls:Boys ratio was at least 2:1 , which did not please girls, but me.

    Went with German girl, blond, mid twenty, about an 8

    Great BBBJ, nice action, eager to please.

    Can highly recommend Oase!

  13. #1256

    My point of reference..

    Quote Originally Posted by Ortos
    Just another comment or two about the public couch action thing in the Hessen 3:

    2. Jackyo writes: Public Action in the FFM clubs ".. is sparse compared to clubs outside of Hessen." I don't know if this is 100% accurate. I don't mean to say that public action in Hessen is on the same level as at, say, Bernd's, which is exceptional as regards couch action. But, the word "sparse" does injustice to the amount of public action one sees in the Oase and Palace kinos! At Oase during a decent night there is lots of sucking, fucking, licking and bouncing going on virtually non-stop in the kino. Now compare that to two very well known NRW clubs, GT and PHG, where there is virtually no public action at all, and you can see action is, in fact, more "sparse" in certain clubs outside Hessen than in Hessen itself, no?

    Anyway, it is accurate to say that PTs are basically the place for couch action, along with smaller NRW FKK clubs. But one can find a decent amount of action in Hessen if you know where to look and how to find it. Just a point of clarification...

    Ortos
    .. is always Bernds in matters relating to public action.

    I agree. There is certainly public action going on in the Kinos at Oase and Palace and even for that matter at World and it exceeds that which you will find at several large NRW clubs where nothing takes place in the open at all.

    Its just not "in your face" public action and this is the reason I say that its sparse.

    I have had sex with women at World's Kino but I'd hardly characterize it as "out-in-the-open-with-all-the-lights-on-and-I don't-care-if-anyone-is watching" sex. Lighting in that Kino is subdued and its intention is not to provide full public viewing.

    I'd describe it as public sex with mood lighting (the flicker of the Kino screen).

    For fully exhibitionistic sex, I visit a PT or Bernds. The smaller Duesseldorf clubs such as Blue Note also offer more public action (and I'm not talking about couch action but full live sex).

  14. #1255

    Clarification on the Publik Aktion

    Just another comment or two about the public couch action thing in the Hessen 3:

    1: Yes, please do NOT post same question (or comments even) in separate threads! Once is enough, and if you look under Palace you will see that there are already some responses. It is not the best to have these follow-up posts spread throughout more than one thread, ja? Also: Probably this subject best fits under General Info, no?

    2. Jackyo writes: Public Action in the FFM clubs ".. is sparse compared to clubs outside of Hessen." I don't know if this is 100% accurate. I don't mean to say that public action in Hessen is on the same level as at, say, Bernd's, which is exceptional as regards couch action. But, the word "sparse" does injustice to the amount of public action one sees in the Oase and Palace kinos! At Oase during a decent night there is lots of sucking, fucking, licking and bouncing going on virtually non-stop in the kino. Now compare that to two very well known NRW clubs, GT and PHG, where there is virtually no public action at all, and you can see action is, in fact, more "sparse" in certain clubs outside Hessen than in Hessen itself, no?

    Anyway, it is accurate to say that PTs are basically the place for couch action, along with smaller NRW FKK clubs. But one can find a decent amount of action in Hessen if you know where to look and how to find it. Just a point of clarification...

    Ortos

  15. #1254
    FKK Oase First Time.

    Ok first this report is a bit late, I was at Oase last Friday and my report is late because as soon as I landed in the US I found out my dad was in the hospital so I had to go to LA.

    In any event getting to Oase was easy special thanks to Wan King and Jackyo for all their help. As soon as I walked through the doors of Oase I could see the difference. As I walked through the doors a medium height blonde and I locked eyes and I thought to myself "I am going to fuck that girl". All the girls I saw as I was entering were beautiful stunners. Sure there were a couple of DNF's (do not fuck), but for the most part I was like a kid in a candy store. The facilities were much better at Oase than Palace.
    Anyway after I changed, I walked around a bit to get the lay of the land. I went to the bar and had a drink and was looking for the beauty that I saw when I first came in, I could not see her. After I finished my drink, I headed off to the kino to relax and see if there was any action I could watch. As I entered there was one couple on a couch deep french kissing, I sat on the couch dirctly across from them and descreetly watched on. This girl that was with the other guy kind of looked sexy, black hair in pony tails, kind of a Maryanne thing (from TV show Gilligans Island). After a bit she began to give a BBBJ to the other guy and I started to get real horny. After a couple of minutes I felt a pair of hands on my shoulders I looked up and it was the girl I was looking for. (I think her name was Ilene, but I am not sure, she said she was from Prauge). As I was looking up at her she leaned over and started to DFK with me for a minute or so, she came around and sat down next to me and I began to suck on her beautiful firm breasts, as I was placing my hand down over her pussy and my fingers started to do some exploring. After that she began to give the most awesome BBBJ while we were in the kino, as she was sucking my dick, I did some more pussy exploration with my fingers. After a few she climbed on top and started to ride cowgirl with some real grinding moves. I asked to change position and she got doggie style while I stood up and plowed into her from behind. She was fairly tight and wet, infact I thought the condom fell off. After I bit I blew my first load of the day and we then sat on the couch and cuddled for a few.

    After my first round (I planned on at least 3), I decided to kill a couple of hours. So I spend time in the sauna, the pool, the kino, and the bar.
    Round two was with an Italian girl, granted she was not be best looking but she did have an awesome bod. I was walking out of the kino and she walked up to me and reached into my towell and grabbed my dick and started to DFK. We went into the kino for some fondling and a BBBJ, then off to a room for the deed.

    One of the things I noticed about OASE the girls tend to be a bit more agressive in pursuing guys. I dont know if it was slow or what, but one girl in particual kepy comming up to me every 30 min asking if I wanted to fuck now. Dont get mee wrong, she had an ok body, but she looked a little to much like my friend Jose and her voice was a bit deep. Its kind of a turn off when they are overly aggressive, and my expierience leads me to believe these pushy girls perform worse.

    Anyway girl number three, tall tan brunette from Romania. I was looking at her on the couch outside the kino, I went out and sat next to her for a few we chatted and then off to the kino. This time the kino was rocking with three other couples in various stages of action. She was a bit shy in the DFK arena, but I have found that Rio de Janeiro is the place for REAL GFE's. She did a decent BBBJ followed by cowgirl till completetion in the Kino.

    I was really up for another round but since I had already had 14 round in the last two days (including PT Dorsten), I did not think I could come again.

    All in all I really like Oase compared to Palace. It is worth every extra bit of trouble to get to Oase over Palace.

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