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  1. #1020
    Quote Originally Posted by Shark16

    I find it strange that Pension Wall dit not have any vacancies for you, Jackyo. Maybe the owner was out of town? It must have had at least 30- 40 rooms(?), and I think I was about the only visitor at the pension. What could possibly happen in a sleepy, little village as Burgholzhausen that would occupy all rooms? A FKK convention?? ;-)

    Actually it is more like 26 rooms. 11 doubles and 5 singles.

    Cheers,

    Dedalus, who hopes to get an invite to the FKK convention, but may overnight in Frankfurt ;-)))

  2. #1019

    Pension Wall

    HaHa- Shark's a genius! Let's hire out the entire pension Wall (horses and all) for an FKK convention. I'm sure that we can get a group rate! None of us will stick out from amongst the crowd of BHH visitors and we can all gallop into Oase in style on a chartered horse!

  3. #1018
    Quote Originally Posted by Jackyo
    Hey Shark16,

    I tried to book a room here once but they didn't have any vacancies.

    Can you verify that its near a stable of horses? I read that you can smell them from the Pension.
    Haha ... ;-) That's the one! What can I say ... every morning I woke up by the sound of horses. They are about 10 meters away. No need for any alarm. Really funny; it brings out the stallion in you. You get out of bed with a huge smile on your face, shout "Yeah, baby"!, take a quick shower, and off you go to storm the gates at Oase, ready as can be. To me, visiting Oase for three days in a row with no other plans, it was a perfect place.

    But I think it is fair to warn everyone of a couple of downsides of living in Burgholzhausen:
    - The train for downtown Frankfurt I think goes only once every hour, last train leaves early in the evening (2130), and does not work at all on Sundays. Bus may be an alternative, but I am not familiar with the bus system. A taxi to downtown Frankfurt or airport will easily cost EUR 35- 45.
    - Prices for the rooms at Pension Wall vary a lot. I tried to call for reservation, but as they demanded EUR 42 for the room I politely said no thank you. In stead I just showed up and got the room for EUR 30 (without breakfast, which is only served between 0615 and 0730. Breakfast at Oase start at 1000).
    - Burgholzhausen has only a small "kiosk" that sells beverages and baguettes, and that's all! Absolutely no grocery stores or petrol stations as far as I could see. There are a post office and two nice pizzerias/biergarten though. That's basically it. Very little to do in the village of Burgholzhausen. Except for this beautiful little house full of naked girls a small kilometer further up the road of course ... ;-)
    - Pension Wall is at the outskirts of Burgholzhausen; by the city limits and by the one and only road to FKK Oase (and Ober Erlenbach). As has been reported here earlier, the road is narrow and the cars come fast. Still a nice walk on a warm summer day. Not so at night. But as you all know, there are no problems getting a taxi from Oase at night (the ride back to the pension will cost you 3- 4 euro).
    - Living in downtown Frankfurt or Bad Homburg, you will be one in a crowd. In the small village of Burgholzhausen, you are probably the only foreigner in town, close to a worldfamous FKK. Personally I have no problems with it. All Germans I met was superfriendly, and generally speaking Germans have a very relaxed attitude towards guys visiting FKKs.

    I find it strange that Pension Wall dit not have any vacancies for you, Jackyo. Maybe the owner was out of town? It must have had at least 30- 40 rooms(?), and I think I was about the only visitor at the pension. What could possibly happen in a sleepy, little village like Burgholzhausen that would occupy all rooms? A FKK convention?? ;-)

    .... and it is easy to find room to park a car, I should say.

    Have fun!

  4. #1017

    Rödelheimer Hof garni

    Hey,

    Chivaz recently turned me on to a pretty nice hotel option if you are with a car and plan on doing some playing at Oase. The Garni Rödelheimer Hof while in Frankfurt, is right at the A5/A66 or the Nordwestkreuz, and is probably only about 10-15 driving mins. from BHH. It is not a fancy place, but nice and usually pretty inexpensive. There are no parking problems, which can be a huge headache in any hotel in Bad Homburg. Plus, you don't have to pay that damn Kurtax.

    Pension Wall is right by Oase and is certainly an option. It is really "auf dem Land" as the Germans would say. There just ain't much in Burgholzhausen.

    Friedrichsdorf is a nice little town, but by the time you figure driving over those Landstrassen, the distance between there and Oase is not that much different from Frankfurt/Oase.

    http://www.garni-hotel-roedelheimerhof.de/

    Check out Hotel.de or hrs.com for the best rates.

    Cheers,

    Dedalus

  5. #1016

    Baden Baden

    Hey Zont26,

    No problem!

    As a rule clubs in southern Germany (Baden-Wuerttemberg and Bayern) do not offer comparable services to the clubs to the north and what you do find there is less of a bargain.

    I have searched the German language forums to see if there is any mention of the Villa Ascona and the last time it was reviewed was October, 2003. This is not a good sign.

    These forums have a list of the most visited clubs in Germany on their home page with small descriptions of each (Gebrauchsanleitungen or a users guide). This club does not make that list.

    Later,

    Quote Originally Posted by Zont26
    I did stumble across references to a place called "Villa Ascona" way down in Baden-Baden that has some outstanding ladies on the web site - assuming they are really there, of course. Unlike the FKK sites, there are pictures of their beautiful faces. However, nothing came up on search here and I could find very little about it running searches elsewhere. If many of the FKK ladies look like the ladies on that site, I shall be at the FKK of the day for a long time.

  6. #1015

    I've heard about this place

    Hey Shark16,

    I tried to book a room here once but they didn't have any vacancies.

    Can you verify that its near a stable of horses? I read that you can smell them from the Pension.

    Quote Originally Posted by Shark16
    Pension Wall
    Adresse: Benzstrasse 11
    61381 Friedrichsdorf-Burgholzhausen
    Telefon: 06007 / 1467
    Telefax: 06007 / 1467
    Bettenzahl: 29
    EZ: ab 26,- Euro
    DZ: ab 23,- Euro / Person


    Pension Wall is not for those seeking hotel standards. It is neither for those of us needing all amenities in the neighbourhood (Burgholzhausen is not the centre of the earth, except for a damn good FKK nearby). BUT; it is an inexpensive alternative for people on a budget, it is clean and safe, you get a roof over your head and a bed to sleep in, you can easily get there by train from downtown Frankfurt (no need to spend money on taxi nor a rental car), AND ... it is situated within 10 mnts WALKING DISTANCE from FKK Oase(!).


    http://www.friedrichsdorf.de/freizei...nsionen.php#12

  7. #1014

    thank you Jackyo

    A thanks to Jackyo go out. He addressed my two questions about doubles and the concept of an upgraded FKK. I read the forums (here and the World and Palace areas) for about four months back. Also tried search. Figured that after I did that, I was "entitled" to throw out a question or two.

    When it comes to doubles, I have seen a lot of guidance that emphasizes being prepared. Have fun with each lady separately first. Be sure they enjoy each other. But I can see with the frequent changes at the big FKK's that this could be tough to arrange in advance. If I do it at all, it shall be as Jackyo said - select a lady and (perhaps later in the day after a successful encounter?), allow her to suggest a third lady for fun.

    I especially enjoyed his "Meisterin" and "Lehrling" commentary.

    I did stumble across references to a place called "Villa Ascona" way down in Baden-Baden that has some outstanding ladies on the web site - assuming they are really there, of course. Unlike the FKK sites, there are pictures of their beautiful faces. However, nothing came up on search here and I could find very little about it running searches elsewhere. If many of the FKK ladies look like the ladies on that site, I shall be at the FKK of the day for a long time.

  8. #1013
    Thanks gentlemen for helping me get the lay of the land around Etap Linden. I am used to Excelsior in Frankfurt, with all it's comforts and amenities, and the Hauptbahnhof across the street.

    beffen

  9. #1012

    Tested: Pension Wall, Burgholzhausen

    Pension Wall
    Adresse: Benzstrasse 11
    61381 Friedrichsdorf-Burgholzhausen
    Telefon: 06007 / 1467
    Telefax: 06007 / 1467
    Bettenzahl: 29
    EZ: ab 26,- Euro
    DZ: ab 23,- Euro / Person


    Pension Wall is not for those seeking hotel standards. It is neither for those of us needing all amenities in the neighbourhood (Burgholzhausen is not the centre of the earth, except for a damn good FKK nearby). BUT; it is an inexpensive alternative for people on a budget, it is clean and safe, you get a roof over your head and a bed to sleep in, you can easily get there by train from downtown Frankfurt (no need to spend money on taxi nor a rental car), AND ... it is situated within 10 mnts WALKING DISTANCE from FKK Oase(!).


    http://www.friedrichsdorf.de/freizei...nsionen.php#12

  10. #1011

    Etap? or an alternative

    Jackyo, Beffen. A bit more info re Etap. There are two huge sex shops within 1 minute's walk, a couple of Burger King/McDonald type places, a Lidl (or Aldi) supermarket, a sunstudio, a couple of restaurants etc. So lots of things. It is a 15/20 minute drive from World and about 25 minutes from Oase. Reception normally speaks English

    For World maybe the Grunen Baum in Pohlheim would be better for someone with no car?. You can eat well there (and there is an Asia Imbiss across the road). Plus some other shops (Apotheke, Post, supermarket). Bus stops immediately outside. Obviously no good for Oase

  11. #1010
    Quote Originally Posted by Eagle 5
    Can anyone recommend hotels near World or Oase that has decent and free parking? Last time I stayed at The Park Hotel I had to pay for parking and the friggin spots where very tight. New York style parking lifts where multiple cars are in the same spot.

    As for golf are there any other recommendations besides licher?
    Go to the Jaipur resturant/hotel in Friedrichsdorf. It's €45 per night, free parking and when you walk out the front door your facing right down the road that takes you to Oase. This is a clean hotel with free parking. They leave the door open at night so you're not disturbing anyone when you come home in the small wee hours.

    Regards

  12. #1009
    Quote Originally Posted by Routard
    The only amenity I remember close to the Etap Linden is the fuel station nearby selling a few things.....So Etap Linden is a good option only if you have a car or a friend that has a car! When will you be there around? I'll be back in FKK land from 2/09 till 10/09.
    Hi Routard,

    There is a Burger King very close by. Also place called Orchidee and another called Rustico who supposedly serve food. Don't know anything about them though (just noticed them on map24).

    There will be some cars around in Beffen's posse. You will miss us by few days as we will be staying there over the weekend preceding your trip.

    Chivaz

  13. #1008

    The German Apprenticeship System

    Quote Originally Posted by excess
    just one more example of the lengths that some of go to help these poor ladies along the road of life. the social service and employment training departments should be subsidizing our hobby. :-))
    ha! i agree!

    the last time i was at heavensgate i spent most of the time having a conversation with this really funny kind of crazy dutch guy (they all seem to have a great sense of humor).

    anyway, there was one particular woman there who i spotted early. she was attractive and i put her on my list of women to meet. she had jetblack hair, was very tanned, german. if i remember correctly, her name was angie.

    the problem was that she was never free. sometime at noon or so a dude comes in and then she spends the most of the day hanging out with him. not doing anything really, just sitting with her arms and legs draped over with him on the couch.

    the dutch guy books multiple sessions with this very large polish blonde and keeps coming back from each session saying she provided excellent bj services.

    the inside story was that the blonde was actually angie's lehrling (or apprentice) and if i wanted a really outstanding session i needed to book with the meisterin. everything the blonde learned she learned from angie.

    and as proof of how good angie was her long time client (the dude who took up all of her time) had given her a car and this is why she felt obligated everytime he came to hang out with him.

    kind of testimonial to how good her bjs were. they were so good, he decided he would pay her in advance for her company and services.

    you can't miss the two of them by the way as they tend to hangout near the tv room which leads to the kitchen.

    the german apprenticeship system dating back to the guilds of the middle ages still lives on and in an fkk club setting.

    new girls really need some form of instruction and it is only after they have been at it for a while that they learn what it is they need to do. i avoid really young girls for this reason. a couple of years of seasoning makes a difference.

  14. #1007
    Quote Originally Posted by Beffen1
    I'm opting for the Etap in Linden for 33 euro. Anyone know what amenities, stores, snacks are nearby? Is the breakfast worth 5 euro? Can I walk from the train stop?
    Etap Linden is a good deal for 33€, comfortable, efficient and clean, far enough from Frankfurt and the messe and still one of the closest hotel from FKK World. However, like all Etap hotels, they are located outside the center, in some kind of industrial zone, without any amenities, stores or snacks nearby and far from train stop. The only amenity I remember close to the Etap Linden is the fuel station nearby selling a few things. Breakfast for 5€ is a decent continental buffet without pastries however (coffee, thea, chocolate, orange juice, baguette and bread with butter and jam). So Etap Linden is a good option only if you have a car or a friend that has a car! When will you be there around? I'll be back in FKK land from 2/09 till 10/09.

  15. #1006
    "It seems that it was her friend's first day at work, had no idea what the expectations were of her. The deal was that she was just going to observe and take notes, so to speak, while the more experienced friend did a running commentary on what her normal service procedure was."

    Thank you, Jackyo.

    Just one more example of the lengths that some of go to help these poor ladies along the road of life. The Social Service and Employment Training Departments should be subsidizing our hobby. :-))

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