FKK Oase - Burgholzhausen

[Neurosynth]

Here is how a lack of price correction for inflation has impacted places like Oase. As 50 euro becomes less and less valuable the perceived income drops, and this kind of work becomes less desirable especially for women from robust economies. 50 euro may seem like a lot to Romanian women. But over the last decade or two fewer and fewer women from Poland or Russia or (especially) from Germany itself can be found working in FKKs.

So yes the price has stayed the same, but at the cost of chasing out women not from the poorest countries.

[Jmioffe]

Maybe. Maybe the added customers will make the girls happy with just more sessions also instead of hiking the prices too much. 100 e for 30 min would completely kill off everyone on this forum, all the french and all the dutch from going all the way to Hessen though. But 60-65 e sure. If it also comes with more selection in the lineups it could be an ok deal for me actually.

Myself I think there is a gap to fill in the available buffer offered by the girls currently working in Hessen. And a few clubs have probably more room additional girls before prices spike. At least if normal market forces rule. And to some degree they do I guess.

This would be a really interesting business study. As we know, FKK is platform, bringing together buyers and sellers. Right now, it's assumed there's an equilibrium at 50 E. But what happens if a club raises session to price to 75 E? Would that bring more girls and then more mongers, creating a virtuous cycle? Or would it go the other way, higher session price leading to fewer mongers leading to fewer girls? Are girls and mongers more price-driven or quality-driven?

And then, of course, you'd have to factor in the girls who stay at a certain club because their friends are there. And you'd have to factor out the population that only comes to drink and doesn't session.

(Any FKK owners here reading this, I'm available to hire as a consultant.)

[ExpatLover]

Some updates from the girls / club there are not much business nowadays. I was told that the Christmas party was full of people but mostly drunk, LOL. The next day, the club was rather empty with more girls than guy. Some of the girls have already left for Holidays (Adele, Alina). Some are leaving in the next week (Anna, Antonia, Kati, Vicki).

Fully true December is never a good month for the girls in the clubs, the guys need to buy gifts for the family, around 15 of December to 10 of January I never visit any club, too poor LU for me mostly older woman the young need to go back to Roumania like Alina, Anna. I have nothing against the older woman but I feel immediately when a girl spent 10 years in the job from escort to apartment to Laufhaus and FKK, there is no more anything spontaneous coming from them.

[BadinSweet]

Some updates from the girls / club – there are not much business nowadays. I was told that the Christmas party was full of people but mostly drunk, LOL. The next day, the club was rather empty with more girls than guy. Some of the girls have already left for Holidays (Adele, Alina). Some are leaving in the next week (Anna, Antonia, Kati, Vicki).

[Pistons]

It's really amazing that prices stayed so low for so long. Inflation affects everyone!

But I think pretty soon mongers will start getting burned via Brexit.

The expected influx of bankers is already making real estate agents rich, and they're just a step above tutes. (bad joke, sorry, but you know what I mean.).

Maybe. Maybe the added customers will make the girls happy with just more sessions also instead of hiking the prices too much. 100 e for 30 min would completely kill off everyone on this forum, all the french and all the dutch from going all the way to Hessen though. But 60-65 e sure. If it also comes with more selection in the lineups it could be an ok deal for me actually.

Myself I think there is a gap to fill in the available buffer offered by the girls currently working in Hessen. And a few clubs have probably more room additional girls before prices spike. At least if normal market forces rule. And to some degree they do I guess.

[Pistons]

The time for establishments setting a higher price is long past. FKKs should have done that a long time ago. The girls are now setting their own price and from what I am reading some girls in Palace are now charging 100 e for normal service. Had the FKKs increased the price to lets say 75 e per 1/2 hour a few years ago girls would have been less inclined to set their own price. IMHO.

The establishment can forward the rules set by the girls. This is just a formality.

[Danny227]

The time for establishments setting a higher price is long past. FKKs should have done that a long time ago. The girls are now setting their own price and from what I am reading some girls in Palace are now charging 100 e for normal service. Had the FKKs increased the price to lets say 75 e per 1/2 hour a few years ago girls would have been less inclined to set their own price. IMHO.

Where these girls come from, 50 euro is a LOT of money. 50 or 75 makes no difference for them. They have no 30 minute euro value bar that will make them content. No matter what the half hour price, they greedy girls will ask for more and the less greedy girls will not.

[Member #4581]

Saturday night in my local town is nearer FKK than Oase.

I should relocate to where you live, Optimist!

[ExpatLover]

It's really amazing that prices stayed so low for so long. Inflation affects everyone!

But I think pretty soon mongers will start getting burned via Brexit.

The expected influx of bankers is already making real estate agents rich, and they're just a step above tutes. (bad joke, sorry, but you know what I mean.).

Very small impact, they are more going to escorts and there are 400000 to 600000 prostitutes in Germany.

[Jmioffe]

The time for establishments setting a higher price is long past. FKKs should have done that a long time ago. The girls are now setting their own price and from what I am reading some girls in Palace are now charging 100 e for normal service. Had the FKKs increased the price to lets say 75 e per 1/2 hour a few years ago girls would have been less inclined to set their own price. IMHO.

It's really amazing that prices stayed so low for so long. Inflation affects everyone!

But I think pretty soon mongers will start getting burned via Brexit.

The expected influx of bankers is already making real estate agents rich, and they're just a step above tutes. (bad joke, sorry, but you know what I mean.).

[ExpatLover]

The time for establishments setting a higher price is long past. FKKs should have done that a long time ago. The girls are now setting their own price and from what I am reading some girls in Palace are now charging 100 e for normal service. Had the FKKs increased the price to lets say 75 e per 1/2 hour a few years ago girls would have been less inclined to set their own price. IMHO.

Legally it is a complicate subject, knowing that the girls are not employed by the clubs, they are free to establish their own prices even more true with the new law.

[Turgid]

Or Oase should be upfront about it and increase the 50 e to 60 or even 70 e.

The time for establishments setting a higher price is long past. FKKs should have done that a long time ago. The girls are now setting their own price and from what I am reading some girls in Palace are now charging 100 e for normal service. Had the FKKs increased the price to lets say 75 e per 1/2 hour a few years ago girls would have been less inclined to set their own price. IMHO.

[Pistons]

Pistons. Agree. However an increase to 60 will I suspect make no difference. They are after bigger money. The 60 rate at Artemis does not seem to relate to better service, and the 40 rate at red carpet clubs seems to relate to higher service.

Bitumen. Correct. I have never been with a clothed girl in FKK

I don't know. A 20% increase is something. But then again, the total sum of money spent at FKK's in Europe is probably a pot of gold that will remain unchanged weather or not it is 50 or 60. If it gets too high and above peoples willingness to pay, the total pot of gold all the girls (and entry fees) have to share will fall. So it is hard to say where the equilibrium is. But I know Wellcum with their 70 e per 30 min was a level above most you see in Germany. But then again gt Vienna with 60 e per 30 min was horrible. And worse than the worst German club in upselling. I don't know if it is because of the high living costs in Vienna, or if the line is between 60 and 70 e, and how much club management has to say, but I do think there is a link between the low operating costs at Acapulco and the high operating costs at Dolce Vita. And if the operating costs (entry for the girls) is high, they upsell more. While at Aca the girls are more satisfied with less money. One ex Dolce Vita girl at Acapulco says she prefers Acapulco. Her economy is simply better there.

[Danny227]

And then we can see where that leads. 60 is fine with me, but what I hate is if the girl meets you at the locker, and suddenly she asks for 100 instead of 50. And you know you only spent 27 min in the room. Then the girl starts complaining that we were taking a swing at the dance floor before I said yes to the room, and that that was included. Gave her 5 extra as a small tip. She handed it straight back to me again while looking mad. I took it and thanked her, wondering if the 5 e she gave me would define me as a gigolo needing to register come 2018.

The level some of these Oase girls have attained at the scam ladder is silly as hell. I wonder what they are thinking? Its not all of them, but a good 30% at least have absolutely no idea what willingness to pay is, and their own value considering the market. I understand it is tough competition for them and the market is limited, but it feels like the Oase girls are trying hard to alienate themselves from the people giving them their income.

The new notion that 'prices start at 50' just doesn't work. It feels wrong. The girls are unable to project it properly if they themselves feel like they should have more, and it falls flat as all they do about it is just having a colder first impression on the customers.

Sounds about right about Oase girls.

[ExpatLover]

Pistons. Agree. However an increase to 60 will I suspect make no difference. They are after bigger money. The 60 rate at Artemis does not seem to relate to better service, and the 40 rate at red carpet clubs seems to relate to higher service.

Bitumen. Correct. I have never been with a clothed girl in FKK

You should recently, I went with one and for me she is the most beautiful girl I never was with, blond, 170 high, see to the boobs all natural white skin, not skinny, no smoking, no tattoo, after that I don t care about sex, on top of that she is very tight. She is just to shy to be fully naked. Sorry but I will not communicate the name of the club, keep it for me several months.