FKK Oase - Burgholzhausen

[McAdonis]

My September visit was 100% DFK at Oase but that is an unfair statistic as that was a short trip and I had only sessioned with girls previously known to me. Of course, I realize that my stats are not necessarily reflective of what a newbie might experience since I am fairly well known in the club and usually take long rooms.

If you only look at the 8 new girls I tried for the first time this trip, I received DFK from at least 75% of them (6 out of 8 -- 1 was the bad apple Amanda and one I couldn't remember if I got DFK or not because my notes are incomplete on this one girl).

In my case, I never committed to any time in the room up front. I simply started my room and we saw where things developed from there (and yes, I fully realize that most of these girls have already acquired some intelligence on me before our first time in the room). So, in all but a few cases where I knew I had a time constraint and couldn't stay longer than a half hour, the girls technically had no idea whether I would indeed stay longer than a half hour as I had made no such commitments.

I normally don't tip or do any extras at all (just do long rooms). In all, I gave out a total of about 5 small tips at times when I was feeling particularly grateful or when a girl went a bit "above and beyond" or provided something out of the ordinary. So, I normally do not tip at all.

I'd nominate this report for RoD. Credible and useful reports should provide context. Your 100% DFK rate in September would have been misleading if details had been omitted.

Also, I believe it was you that had written about taking WGs to different clubs and even excursions to Munich. That suggests to me you have a FKK wife, but then you go and mention 14 different girls. Perhaps you should be providing lessons to others on how to maintain that balance. Because I meet some guys who go to one club to see their FKK wife and only their FKK wife. Then sneak to a second FKK club to fulfill their need for variety.

This trip, I happened to notice that long-time dark haired Amelia, along with Juicy and her blond sister Laura experiencing unusually high numbers of payment disputes with customers. It's too bad that Amelia has developed such a bad attitude; several years ago when she started, she was actually a sweet girl. I'm surprised that the club hasn't disciplined Juicy and her blond sister Laura for making so many problems with customers.

Fewer customers. And both have aged a lot. Maybe the combativeness is due to frustration that they aren't making as much as they used to.

[ExpatLover]

Yes you can disagree but it will not change the fact some Germans do not give a shit who sees them in brothel and those who do care who sees them in a brothel.

Do you chat to your family and friends of the family about what you do in the clubs?

I cannot understand why people say since it did not happen to them then it cannot happen to someone else.

I am divorced for many years, have too older daughters more than 25 YO, they already know that I visit often FKK clubs some friends know also and for the the rest of the grown I don't care. It is not a shame to go to the FKK clubs.

[Member #4581]

Great report UH and so well written, as usual! I am amazed you don't have even a single typo in such a long report. Mine is swimming with typos, grammatical mistakes, misplaced words, malapropisms, badly used idioms, you name it. LOL.

Your note is proof positive that reports of Oase demise (and that it has become a certifiably ripoff club) are greatly exaggerated.

[UltraHappy]

Been having a great time at Oase. Thank you to Oase management for all the positive changes, including giving the girls their freedom with the meals like the men.

Just finished looking over my notes from over the past few weeks. Over the past few weeks, I had the pleasure of sessioning with 14 Oase girls. I keep sessioning over and over with my favorites, so that is why my sample size is much smaller than one might expect for the number of days I was camped out at Oase.

I had an absolutely wonderful time. The service levels were positively great for me. All of the 14 girls gave great absolutely great service, were eager to please, and all gave DFK with the following exceptions:

1 bad apple named Amanda (half hour session), no kissing at all, 2nd worse room of my entire FKK life, more explanation below about Amanda (to be avoided no matter what your little soldier might be trying to tell you!

1 girl I simply do not remember if she DFK'ed me or maybe I didn't try? My notes don't say and I simply don't remember.

1 did not kiss (she does not like to kiss. I knew this before going to the room with her as I have been with her before, so no surprise or disappoint for me).

2 girls gave me only LFK.

6 of the 14 girls were previously known to me (I mean I went to the room with them before). 8 of the girls were new to me (meaning that I never went to the room before, although I might have met them before).

3 of the girls even gave me full on DFK in the Kino, which I had until recently thought had died off at Oase but apparently, this is back. I was quite surprised by this. For the longest time, I hadn't even tried to kiss in the Kino because I had assumed this was off limits, but apparently, that's not the case. Maybe more would have kissed me in the Kino but I only tried with a few girls later in my trip.

Most of my rooms were long bookings. I only did 6 half hour rooms during all of my visits (mostly due to time constraints on account of having to leave the club at a certain hour, limiting my ability to stay later). In one case, one daytime girl limited me to only a half hour session due to her having to leave at a certain hour but she disclosed this limitation to me up front before we started.

In short, I was surprised at the prevalence of DFK this trip, especially given my experience earlier in the Summer when I sadly only encountered a 31% prevalence of DFK with the girls I happened to session with then. My September visit was 100% DFK at Oase but that is an unfair statistic as that was a short trip and I had only sessioned with girls previously known to me. Of course, I realize that my stats are not necessarily reflective of what a newbie might experience since I am fairly well known in the club and usually take long rooms.

If you only look at the 8 new girls I tried for the first time this trip, I received DFK from at least 75% of them (6 out of 8 -- 1 was the bad apple Amanda and one I couldn't remember if I got DFK or not because my notes are incomplete on this one girl).

In my case, I never committed to any time in the room up front. I simply started my room and we saw where things developed from there (and yes, I fully realize that most of these girls have already acquired some intelligence on me before our first time in the room). So, in all but a few cases where I knew I had a time constraint and couldn't stay longer than a half hour, the girls technically had no idea whether I would indeed stay longer than a half hour as I had made no such commitments.

I normally don't tip or do any extras at all (just do long rooms). In all, I gave out a total of about 5 small tips at times when I was feeling particularly grateful or when a girl went a bit "above and beyond" or provided something out of the ordinary. So, I normally do not tip at all.

This trip, I happened to notice that long-time dark haired Amelia, along with Juicy and her blond sister Laura experiencing unusually high numbers of payment disputes with customers. It's too bad that Amelia has developed such a bad attitude; several years ago when she started, she was actually a sweet girl. I'm surprised that the club hasn't disciplined Juicy and her blond sister Laura for making so many problems with customers. Of course, there are two other Laura / Laras in the club but those Laras have dark hair and so should not be confused with the blond trouble-making Laura (Juicy's sister). Yes, I understand that both Juicy and Laura are capable of providing good service if properly incentivized, but why go to the trouble of incentivizing them when there are plenty of other good girls in the club who are happy to provide good service without such extra incentives? It's a wonder to me that Oase management hasn't disciplined Juicy / Laura for causing so many problems with clients.

About the bad apple, new girl Amanda, very slim, dark hair. I believe she's been there about a month. 2nd worse room of my entire FKK life. I'd definitely stay away from this one. All the guys are complaining about her. I got a bad vibe from her in the interview and I knew better than to go with her, but stupid me, I went with her anyways, despite my better judgement on the basis of her smoking body. Big regret. I won't bore you with the details as I am tired of retelling this story by now. Just save your money guys and definitely stay away from this one. Granted, she's fairly new (I think she's only been there about a month). So, maybe she will improve over time. We'll see. But for now, please save your money.

In any case, I realize that my warnings will have little effect on any girl's business since the percentage of customers who actually read these posts are such a small percentage of the club clientele.

All of the reception and staff were outstanding and super friendly this trip. Kudos to the staff for their good customer service.

I enjoyed the December 3rd Saturday Christmas Party more than I thought I would. I was worried that it would become too much of a sausage fest. As it turned out, it was a great night to attend for the guys. Yes, there were lots of people in attendance, but most of the guys weren't taking the girls to the rooms and those who were going to the room were mostly doing only 50 Euro rooms. Yes, a couple top girls were constantly booked, but I was surprised to see other girls who I consider top girls just standing around without customers much of the night.

The girls seemed to get a real kick out of the male stripper at the Christmas party. He had a cool dancing style. Most girls seemed quite disappointed with business this night. A small number of girls did make out pretty well that night but most seemed quite disappointed. My plan was to head to Sharks when Oase was overrun with sausage but I ended up staying at Oase since I was being so well taken care of over there. The party food was quite a bit more extensive than usual. I managed to find a few tasty dishes out of the entire buffet, so I was quite satisfied on the food front. The desserts were quite tasty as well. The dinner was about an hour late being served, which resulted in quite a long queue when the buffet finally opened but luckily, folks moved through fairly quickly. I think there were only a couple times in the night when there was a room wait, but I never witnessed room waits longer than 5 minutes at any time during the night. All in all, I'm glad I went to the Oase Christmas party -- great atmosphere.

For the past 4 weeks, Oase has added the DJ on Wednesday nights as well, not just Saturday nights. More recently, last week, Oase even added the DJ on Friday nights. Maybe this will be a continuing thing with the DJ showing up 3 times a week? The DJ seems to improve the atmosphere in the club, so this is yet another positive change.

Although most of my visits this trip were to Oase, I did manage to make it down to Sharks a couple of times as well. I was quite pleased with the line-up there as well. I was able to use a couple punches on my Sharks VIP card for a reasonable entry price. Good food. If I lived in Frankfurt, I would surely visit Sharks more often (just not on really hot days, not on Wednesdays and for sure, not on Sundays). Had great experiences there with the girls I did happen to session with. Two of the Sharks girls I sessioned with for the first time there were actually former long-time Oase girls. So, it would seem that I can't escape the Oase girls even when I head down to Sharks, haha!

Anyways, there are still plenty of good girls at Oase who provide great service, at least in my experience. Just my personal experience.

Looking forward to my next trip!

[Member #4581]

I cannot understand why people say since it did not happen to them then it cannot happen to someone else.

Good question. Because it is a common human trait. Most people have A tendency to think his own taste and view must be the most prevalent. It is also why mot punters here say xyz girl is over-hyped if they don't like that girl personally, or think abc girl is unappreciated and an undiscovered gem if they like her. (I am sure I am guilty of the same tendency).

Human beings invented god himself into an image of humans, so this tendency to think "our own personal taste is what makes most sense" is a trait humans have had forever.

[Member #4585]

Can't agree with you, on the parks of Sakura, World, Shark and World you have a lot of cars with German local plates even with company names advertisement so I don t believe the guys care about to be recognized or not especially knowing that what they are doing is legal in Germany. If in World you start to get some troubles with the Hell Angels it is better to visit another club, World is my favorite club and never had any issue with someone there.

Yes you can disagree but it will not change the fact some Germans do not give a shit who sees them in brothel and those who do care who sees them in a brothel.

Do you chat to your family and friends of the family about what you do in the clubs?

I cannot understand why people say since it did not happen to them then it cannot happen to someone else.

[ExpatLover]

Nope for real.

You may have never had the opportunity.

Some Frankfurt guys do not want their car to be seen in a car park. A Hessen car registration plate is known as a local so it is always interesting to see who it is. For locals, if you know their cars you can pick when they are in the club when you arrive. You can be looking for the Mainz plate or the Wiesbaden plate or the Offenbach plate of someone you know.

There was even one time a Hells Angel said we know what car you drive as a veiled threat to one customer. Sometimes you don't want to be driving your car.

I know one Frankfurt guy who goes to NRW clubs in case someone he knows sees him in a Hessen club.

There have been times talking to Germans asking for a cheap local hotel as it was too late to go home or they had purposely planned to stay up late and had pre booked a pension in Garbentiech for World or Friedrichsdorf or Erlenbach for Oase.

Saving money is not only the preserve of Tourists. Locals also want to save money too.

It is obvious you do not mind.

Can't agree with you, on the parks of Sakura, World, Shark and World you have a lot of cars with German local plates even with company names advertisement so I don t believe the guys care about to be recognized or not especially knowing that what they are doing is legal in Germany. If in World you start to get some troubles with the Hell Angels it is better to visit another club, World is my favorite club and never had any issue with someone there.

[Sirioja]

I know there's quite a few paranoid guys hiding their cars or visiting clubs a few hours from their home. It's all bullshit. I ran into a guy I know from Frankfurt at Artemis. He went there because he thought he'd be "save" there and wouldn't see any familiar faces. A threat to a client based on the car or license plate? Sounds like an urban legend. HA won't threaten anybody as it will harm their business. At least if the guy didn't do anything wrong or stupid.

What should happen? Blackmail? Should a wife discover the car when you it is parked at Sharks or Oase, 50 - 100 m from the street? In my "career" I've not yet had any bad experience. Go through life with some common sense and you'll be fine, also in FKK land.

HB.

As a foreigner, you can be threatened by a German guy at Sharks who wants to explain You the "rules" about girls, like for Evita, who try to make You being fired, but manager didn't want. How do You call such behavior? We have a word in France. I have never been threatened by Turkish nor Hells at Sharks or World, even some know who I am.

Fortunately, many Germans are friendly and German people always welcome French.

[Hessen Bub]

Britney is back at Oase.

HB.

[Hessen Bub]

I know there's quite a few paranoid guys hiding their cars or visiting clubs a few hours from their home. It's all bullshit. I ran into a guy I know from Frankfurt at Artemis. He went there because he thought he'd be "save" there and wouldn't see any familiar faces. A threat to a client based on the car or license plate? Sounds like an urban legend. HA won't threaten anybody as it will harm their business. At least if the guy didn't do anything wrong or stupid.

What should happen? Blackmail? Should a wife discover the car when you it is parked at Sharks or Oase, 50 - 100 m from the street? In my "career" I've not yet had any bad experience. Go through life with some common sense and you'll be fine, also in FKK land.

HB.

[Exodus8]

After rooming with Adele-Diaz recently I realized to get on her good side is not going with girls that she believes are potential competitors of hers. LOL

She clearly sees Beatrice as her competitor from my observation so no wonder you felt her wrath, LOL.

[PussyLiccker]

After rooming with Adele-Diaz recently I realized to get on her good side is not going with girls that she believes are potential competitors of hers. LOL. Obviously playing possessive games afraid of losing her clients (Euros) to other girls. These types of interactions are way too obvious in Hesse. Yes, if she recalls you from the past, her game will be different. She has def changed from her former years. Surprising at Oase? Not really.

As been noted that business at Oase has dropped, and lower business with high quantity of girls will create such clingy attitudes of girls to compete for potential clienteles present. Even on a weekend night, I noticed business was relatively lower than in the past, and there is a period when the place really picks up close to midnight. That's when you see a bunch of punters sitting in the Kino, couch area waiting for girl approach.

So, with business drop-off the girl's strategy is likely to cling on to tourists that would give repeated business or regulars. Probably observe the behaviors of punters and based on that make a guess on spending potential.

Hun Eliz is pretty avg lookin, and body is really not all that great, thick boned. Several girls that were better optical choices. I guess the tits is the draw. Nice eyes though.

The new tall brunette Beatrice is very repeatable for optics and service for me. Man is she hot. Totally my type!

I will reiterate. Micha is a stunner. Damn is she hot. The vibes was not right. Is she Ro? Don't commonly see Romies like her. Gottdammmnnn..

Laura Brunette's (very pretty) service is limited in 50 session, and fun personality like Tatiana at Sharks. Upsell for kissing was a turn-off, but suck and fuck for 50 Euros was one of the best suck and fuck. LOL. BBBJ very good, and sensual.

Majority my picks proposed extra for kissing.

This is how the girls work there: They will state they do such and such outside the room, and then when you get in the room they will lay out the prices. It's different from other clubs. Other clubs with hardly girls upselling, girls telling you what they do in room is what she will perform in a standard 50 Euros session rate. Here, they may even not bring up the monetary requirement outside the room, and in the room pops the question. How long you want to stay? What you like in session? Kissing comes up, and thence comes out what it will cost as extra. Of course this is with my potential picks, and not all girls do this, but I don't run into this behavior in many other clubs mainly at the NRW.

The more girls (of course the types of my interests) I interact with, the upselling behavior is noticeably more prevalent. Pretty high, and of course there probably are the non-upsellers likely non-Romies, milfs, etc.. LOL. The ones independent from that club.

[Member #4585]

Never heard of locals renting cars, taking cabs or asking for money saving tips on public transport. Was that meant to me an ironic post?

HB.

Nope for real.

You may have never had the opportunity.

Some Frankfurt guys do not want their car to be seen in a car park. A Hessen car registration plate is known as a local so it is always interesting to see who it is. For locals, if you know their cars you can pick when they are in the club when you arrive. You can be looking for the Mainz plate or the Wiesbaden plate or the Offenbach plate of someone you know.

There was even one time a Hells Angel said we know what car you drive as a veiled threat to one customer. Sometimes you don't want to be driving your car.

I know one Frankfurt guy who goes to NRW clubs in case someone he knows sees him in a Hessen club.

There have been times talking to Germans asking for a cheap local hotel as it was too late to go home or they had purposely planned to stay up late and had pre booked a pension in Garbentiech for World or Friedrichsdorf or Erlenbach for Oase.

Saving money is not only the preserve of Tourists. Locals also want to save money too.

It is obvious you do not mind.

[Syzygies]

Two girls that I was with last week gave great GFE with DFK without any discussion of time. In fact they asked me toward the end of the half hour if I wanted to keep going, which I did for one but not the other. One girl never kisses I think, and two were the GFE with 1 HR session only. The girls are all different and it is probably different for each punter. All the complaining in the world will not change this, nor will discussions of monger behavior on this site. Blaming asians or tourists or whatever is of no use. If you don't like it, go somewhere else. This forum sometimes devolves into a blame game rather than just sharing experiences so other punters can have an idea of how things work. We all know that in the P4 P world, nothing is guaranteed. If you don't know that, you are a rookie or delusional.

Excellent post, man. The realities of variation. There are some fabulous girl for me. Will I quit this club if I run into a poor or bad girl experience or two? No way. Blame myself or the girl or just bad luck.

No club has exclusively fabulous girls only, also to my spec. There are very few here. I take the ones I really like a lot. YMMV.

I understand very well that a 50 was not what it once was 10 to 15 years ago. We should be discussing the particular girls that are doing great, warning about limited girls, and helping with the practicalities of using the Oase club.

I don't care what nationality other Mongers are, how they behave in the room, or otherwise provided they are not too loud preferably, and take a shower if are underarm stinky. At all clubs, I am amazed at how few guys apparently are washing hands after using the toilets (and this is regardless of nationality with East Asians likely to be the cleanest). I am not monitoring anyone closely so it is possible they go somewhere else to wash. So customers' cleanliness is the issue that most comes into my thoughts. Even some Americans and muslims etc. Wearing shorts under the robe doesn't bother me. Just an amusingly prudish thing for FKK, considering that others wish to be seen fucking in public with an Italian cheer squad. LOL.

Here are some girls that I found to be great for me or my buddies recommended to be great that I did not try yet (some may not be so great in 30 minutes. Unknown):

Carla (little brunette), May (Filipina), Crina, Mihaela / Michaela, Sophie, Elaina, Denisa, Cora, Cheyenne, Elizabeth (Hun), Elizabeth (Cze) lacks DFK these days, Zsanette, Amy, Anna (dark blonde long time girl), new Anna (Blondish wavy hair) perhaps, Diana (Dom), Suzanne (Jam), and lots more where service levels are not known to me, or I tried only once so far and not clear just how good they can be (like the 2 Angies).

Some girls are assumed to be good but not tried due to wrong spec. Some girls may be excellent but masked by being dick scared at the time. These were not listed. There are quite a few girls I would like to try sometime, or try a second time like Kim (Claudia / Aida), Angie, etc.

Good girls for me are potentially good for someone else, if they have a similar style of operation. There must be heaps of potentially good girls not listed.

[Hessen Bub]

Never heard of locals renting cars, taking cabs or asking for money saving tips on public transport. Was that meant to me an ironic post?

HB.