FKK Oase - Burgholzhausen

[Syzygies]

There must be a Messe (or Fair) going on during the week.

Some events (nothing that huge I think) however I know the Concorde Hotel is fully booked on Monday 18 Nov. so maybe Food Ingredients fair is big and perhaps EuroMold:

Food Ingredients Europe 2013 Trade fair Germany Frankfurt am Main 19. 11. 2013. 21. 11. 2013
EWEA Offshore 2013 Trade fair Germany Frankfurt am Main 19. 11. 2013. 21. 11. 2013
27. Kongress der DGI: Gemeinsam in die Zukunft. Dialoge an Schnittstellen Congress
Germany Frankfurt am Main 28. 11. 2013. 30. 11. 2013
EuroMold 2013 Trade fair Germany Frankfurt am Main 03. 12. 2013. 06. 12. 2013
Black Sabbath Concert Germany Frankfurt am Main 04. 12. 2013. 04. 12. 2013
8. Deutscher Wirbelsäulenkongress Congress Germany Frankfurt am Main 05. 12. 2013. 07. 12. 2013

Try Trivago website. There are several Frankfurt Hotels starting at 40 Euros a night in that week starting Mon 2 Dec: Central, Alpha, Jaguar, Primus, Aria, etc. May not be right at the Central Rail Station, to get a cheap price. I did not check locations, but most within 2 km and can use the U-Bahn.
If you want a really class Hotel you will have to pay more, but if its just a bed to crash, why pay so much more?

Oase is near to Friedrichsdorf or even nearer to the village of Burgholzhausen.
World is near Giessen (18 Euro cab ride) or very near to the village of Garbenteich (Pohlheim) See www.zumgrünenbaum-pohlheim.de (need to book in advance).

[PussyLiccker]

Trying to book hotel for 1st week of December, the websites (hotels. Com / booking. Com) are showing very high prices-

- Mercure / FRIEDRICHSDORF- $128 / night.

- Best western. $125++/Nt.

- Hotel Union, Munchener Str. (Central Station area). $134 / Nt.

- ibis Frankfurt Centrum- $180.

The indications I got here in the forum was I should get in 60/70E range ($100<). Am I not doing something right?

What star ratings would imply decent / general amenities? Also what 'areas' should I look at besides 'central station'. What is name for Oase area or World area in hotel site? (Difficult to figure it out on the map)

Thanks

Http://www.messefrankfurt.com/conten...messekalender/

If FRA isn't your destination city the search Google "city Messe calendar".

There must be a Messe (or Fair) going on during the week. Edit: Prices are fine, nothing major going on.

[Syzygies]

Even at GT, there are many men that do not go to the room(beer is frei).

I guess you mean the beer is free ("kostenlos","kostenfrei". Cost free)?

I can see some guys at Sharks hardly doing a girl (in some cases not one) on Sundays. 40 Euro entry and they can eat food, take a few coffees etc, and do their wellness shit.

I can cook food, make a good coffee, don't see a great reason to cook myself in the sauna, and hate real Thai massage (torture) , so I am definitely there for the sex. Nothing else really matters once there are 3 or more great girls. The cost of course matters.

[SBTiger]

When in Frankfurt my preference is budget alternatives located close to the clubs as I am just in a hotel / guesthouse to sleep a few hours before I head back to the club / next club anyway. Also, I like the convenience of avoiding the late night travel to downtown. So, for those who are looking for the same I made a report a while ago which I think still stands (pricing mostly in the 35- 50E range). See.

http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...=1#post1204551

In addition to the hotel / guesthouse alternatives in the report you can add:

- Hotel- Garni "Zum Trunk" in Friedrichsdorf-Köppern just a 10 mnts taxi ride from Oase. Very simple, but adequate (thanks to Bread for that one!). Around 35E I believe it was. Email.

hotel-trunk@t-online.de

- Zum Grünen Baum in Garbenteich very close to World (as recommended by Syzy and Ortos / Optimist) ; see.

http://www.zumgrünenbaum-pohlheim.de/

So, local budget alternatives exist for those who want it.

Note: These alternatives are mostly of very modest / simple standard. Also, speaking / writing a little bit of German is a great advantage when trying out the smallest local family hotels / guesthouses (the staff not always used to foreign language clientele). Also note I have never tried out the cheapest alternatives around Hauptbahnhof and therefore I am not able to compare in detail.

Gents who like to travel in style have plenty of other local options both in Bad Homburg and in Giessen of course.

Trying to book hotel for 1st week of December, the websites (hotels. Com / booking. Com) are showing very high prices-

- Mercure / FRIEDRICHSDORF- $128 / night.

- Best western. $125++/Nt.

- Hotel Union, Munchener Str. (Central Station area)- $134 / Nt.

- ibis Frankfurt Centrum- $180.

The indications I got here in the forum was I should get in 60/70E range ($100<). Am I not doing something right?

What star ratings would imply decent / general amenities? Also what 'areas' should I look at besides 'central station' - what is name for Oase area or World area in hotel site?(Difficult to figure it out on the map)

Thanks

[Syzygies]

Oase girls usually have good attitudes with punters, but then you will run into a few that will give you a nasty face when you tell the the famous "maybe later" line. Those are the ones I never went with ever. So politely rejecting them and seeing their attitude could cue you in on how their general attitude would be like.

One guy on a forum even has a handle "Spaeter Vielleicht" (maybe later).

This is a good point. I did not go with Lavinia first time I met her, silly me but definitely took her the following week, likewise I rejected Sylvia (Hun) stupidly the first time, and finally she was best session ever at Oase. Both were very polite of course when initially did not take them. Other girls I have consistently rejected and they wonder why. Sometimes just not my spec (Veronica, Amelia).

Smart girls will know that a guy needs a break, needs time to decide, wants to feel he is making the decision himself, and will best know his girl type. Smart girls also know some tricks to hook the guys in a less direct way.

Watch the girls behaviour. This is more useful than listening to what the girl says. Believe half of what you see and nothing of what you hear.

[PussyLiccker]

I am lazy about travel. Can't be bothered to even travel to NRW. I don't like the sound of the ratios between guys and girls at certain clubs like GT, and BB reporting having to leave a club by 7PM before it gets crazy. LOL I like places where there a real lot of girls to choose from and not so many guys. At Sharks and World, there are so many men sitting around not doing a lot of sessions, so plenty of good girls available. I think this has an influence on guys liking the place. At Oase, finding Lavinia available is not so easy these days and a couple years ago finding Lena or Luna available was even tougher.

Ok, I was wondering why I don't get reports from you on NRW clubs. Even at GT, there are many men that do not go to the room(beer is frei), and even the early week line-up is good and ratio is better. If you haven't been there, and inferring probably isn't sound as actually taking a look yourself. Something I've realized is that reports are reports and what you witness is what you witness. I've been to many clubs and will try others. So, if you haven't been to the NRW, take a shot. I'm interested in your reports on the clubs there. There are clubs in the NRW with plenty of girls / men so no excuses. And the pricing is right. 75 / hour. 50 Anal, and 25 CIM.

[PussyLiccker]

@AfterDark240 and Syz.

Yes, at Oase I mainly observe to spot out the girls. Observing the girl's behavior works, it's the oldest way of getting a sense of people without direct communication. But most probable methods are "probable," sometimes just going for a girl you are attracted works also. I can tell you some of the outliers I've run into by just going for it, such as PHG's Latvian girl with bad vibe but fantastic in the room. At ACA, a Romanian that wasn't too polite outside the room, but was one of the best session I've ever had as a punter. My odds are pretty good with this method as I have about 70% success rate. Observing girls how quickly they come out of the room can be an indicator of either they get the men excited quickly or their service is bad. But if they are not new and repeatedly going in and out, that probably means they get the men exicted even if the session is short. Staying in the room full half hour is good indicator also. I personally don't think interaction at the paylocker reveal much. Oase girls usually have good attitudes with punters, but then you will run into a few that will give you a nasty face when you tell the the famous "maybe later" line. Those are the ones I never went with ever. So politely rejecting them and seeing their attitude could cue you in on how their general attitude would be like. When I first started visiting Oase, I was too afraid to reject the girls so I tried to be very polite, but now I realize that most of them has been working there for years and they are hardened. Also check to see if the BBBJ at the cinema is offered by the girls, I used to take advantage of couch time at the cinema with some kissing and nice relaxing BBBJ. I got to say the girls I've run into at Oase had some good BBBJ skills, no teeth, soft and nice. Hopefully they continuously get new girls with good optics and services as they have in the past. There hasn't been much reports of newer girls, so I'm not having much faith in Oase as of current. One more thing to add, Tuesday is a good day when it comes to ratio of girls to men as not many men are present at the beginning of the week. So more girls will be freed up majority of the time, and you will be approached more often than busier days. Sorry to make this sound like a study. It is quite interesting how things work at these clubs. Maybe one day I would get a grant to attend SCs and FFKs so I can do a study and write a graduate thesis. Get a Phd in FKK punting. lol.

[Syzygies]

Ouch reports without specific about girls LOL.

Yes to travel from the USA just to see FKK wives wow kinda feel sorry for you. Should try Tijuana in Mexico. Colombia would be a good destination too.

Syz to me Mainhattan is ok but line up is bellow par compared to Sharks or Oase. Better World IMHO.

I love Sharks now too. Well at least for a Hessen club.

Syzgies are you Asian?

I am lazy about travel. Can't be bothered to even travel to NRW. I don't like the sound of the ratios between guys and girls at certain clubs like GT, and BB reporting having to leave a club by 7PM before it gets crazy. LOL I like places where there a real lot of girls to choose from and not so many guys. At Sharks and World, there are so many men sitting around not doing a lot of sessions, so plenty of good girls available. I think this has an influence on guys liking the place. At Oase, finding Lavinia available is not so easy these days and a couple years ago finding Lena or Luna available was even tougher.

Thanks for the advice although conflicting a bit with advice from Shark Eater. I guess I will have to try Mainhatten when expected to peak. Just one or two like Roxanna will be good enough for me. Meeting Roxanna at Sharks on day one was fairly convincing. Now have a few other favourites added. Kati who has just moved there from Palace is like a bigger Lavinia although service a little more passive (I don't care) and Maria is the big Russian porn star version of Lavinia. For sure you will like if she has returned from holidays.

No not Asian and I am not telling on the forum because it would be a identifying. I am like the only one from my country. Lets say I am Thai but don't look like one at all.

My company likes to offer me assignments in the US but I resist strongly being very happy with Germany. My work bias for US expired a long while back.

[Syzygies]

Without knowing any of the girls, what's the best indicator of service quality here? Simply reading the chemistry in conversation or are there red flags I should look out for?

Any responses are very much appreciated!

SRB

I don't anything about Tuesdays but I found Wed good from a out 5 pm.

Avoid pushy girls and stick to the polite ones. What which girls seem popular with regular customers and have very good interaction with customer when getting paid. Notice which girls are continually taking customers for just 15 mins. Can ask the customer how was the girl he just paid but if he is a newbie his views may be unreliable.

Be aware of the names of some of the highly recommended girls.

[PussyLiccker]

All,

I have read a few of the recent posts, but have some questions for those who are more experienced and familiar.

This will be my first visit to an FKK. I plan on visiting on a Tuesday, what should I expect as far as quantity / quality on this particular day of the week?

I basically have the whole day free, so what is the best time to visit the club if I want to have 3-4 girls?

This being a club, do / will the girls drink / have a good.

Time with you? Or is it strictly down to business?

What are the odds of getting a threesome? Do you just ask the girl if she has a friend she works.

With? Without knowing any of the girls, what's the best indicator of service quality here? Simply reading the chemistry in conversation or are there red flags I should look out for?

Any responses are very much appreciated!

SRB

I would recommend reading recent reviews about Tuesdays, and if you search this thread, you'll find that questions about line-up on particular day of the week has been asked numerous times. Since it's your first time, you won't be disappointed. Oase is a good choice for new punters to the scene as the transportation to the club is fairly easy to figure out (read the earlier posts and do some search in this thread on how to get to Oase and lodging) , and the line-up is quite large for days such as Tuesdays (although there will be a larger line-up toward the end of the week). No requirement to buy girls drinks (like clubs in other countris) , you can just talk to the girls and see if they would provide the service you are looking for. All girls at minimum should provide BBBJ, multiple positions, DATY, and most will DFK from my experience there. Some girls offer Anal sex and it's 100e extra, and CIM is 50e extra. They will sense that you are new to the club scene, and they will try to up-sell the extra services I just mentioned, and some will try to hustle you. Services such as fingering or balls licking is something they will try to hustle you on, so just try it and see how they react, if they say extra, don't go for it(unless you want to pay that extra), if they try to charge you for those at the end without prior knowledge, don't pay for it, and if they threaten to report to the front desk, let them as there is set rule for those services. If the girl doesn't tell you 30min is up during the session and you go over by around 10min, you don't need to pay as they are required to let you know of the 30min mark. I would recommend a watch. Threesomes are easy to find at Oase, sometimes you'll see two girls approaching men at the club. Also, if you really want girls to approach you (which is common at Oase) , you can sit at the porno theater, and they will come by, and sometimes two of them will approach for threesomes. You're in luck if you are looking for threesomes as they like to approach newbies for threesomes. Given it's your first time, just be aware of the price structure and the expenses for the extras. Many girls will approach, and don't be afraid to say no, so take your time before choosing the girl as there will be many hanging around in different areas, and keep in mind new girls will show up throughout the day, and the line-up peaks around 6-10pm. So if the earlier line-up doesn't do it for you, you can wait a bit for other girls to show up. Just look around and once you spot the one, take her for a spin. One warning, you may find a girl and most likely repeat with her as a first timer, I've read so many reports of that from first timers. Most likely you will find one you will really become fond of as a first timer to a club. I would recommend trying out many girls as you may find better services as you try other girls. If you need to be sure about the service before you choose, you can read the reports about certain girls that may or may not be still attending Oase (as some of the popular girls are reported to be leaving the club) , but good service indicators are something each punters pick up over time. One bad indicator is up-selling before start of the session.

[AfterDark240]

All,

I have read a few of the recent posts, but have some questions for those who are more experienced and familiar.

This will be my first visit to an FKK. I plan on visiting on a Tuesday, what should I expect as far as quantity / quality on this particular day of the week?

I basically have the whole day free, so what is the best time to visit the club if I want to have 3-4 girls?

This being a club, do / will the girls drink / have a good.

Time with you? Or is it strictly down to business?

What are the odds of getting a threesome? Do you just ask the girl if she has a friend she works.

With? Without knowing any of the girls, what's the best indicator of service quality here? Simply reading the chemistry in conversation or are there red flags I should look out for?

Any responses are very much appreciated!

SRB

[CaptCabins]

Don't be so concerned. The forum fills with loads of useless comments and useless questions as well, even useless reports not giving any specifics about girls. LOL.

Hiring a car makes a lot of sense for you guys needing to absolutely maximize your mongering time over several days. As I normally monger only one day per week, when in Germany, I can't be bothered to go hire a car, and there is no where to park easily where I live in Frankfurt. I now have buddy Shark Eater who is also not normally bothering to hire a car, but we can share transport on occasions now.

I am not done with Oase like some others, not having "pulled the plug" completely just yet. However it has currently moved to my number 3 priority

Ouch reports without specific about girls LOL.

Yes to travel from the USA just to see FKK wives wow kinda feel sorry for you. Should try Tijuana in Mexico. Colombia would be a good destination too.

Syz to me Mainhattan is ok but line up is bellow par compared to Sharks or Oase. Better World IMHO.

I love Sharks now too. Well at least for a Hessen club.

Syzgies are you Asian?

[Syzygies]

This is just when my return flight leaves. I don't control when my plane leaves. Morning return flights to the US actually work well for transatlantic flights because of the time difference. There are limited nonstop flight choices to my home city. So, this is just the way the times work out in my case.

Don't be so concerned. The forum fills with loads of useless comments and useless questions as well, even useless reports not giving any specifics about girls. LOL.

I do feel for you, living in the US. My original country is also very far from good sex opportunities so that I would be forced to seek an Asian brothel when I get desperate, but this Christmas I will be reduced to wanking only for a few weeks I suspect, unless as Asian girl I have known for 20 years can escape her BF for an evening.

So expensive to fly to Frankfurt for sex. Would Brazil / Columbia be a cheaper option? At least you save on one Hotel night.

Hiring a car makes a lot of sense for you guys needing to absolutely maximize your mongering time over several days. As I normally monger only one day per week, when in Germany, I can't be bothered to go hire a car, and there is no where to park easily where I live in Frankfurt. I now have buddy Shark Eater who is also not normally bothering to hire a car, but we can share transport on occasions now.

I am not done with Oase like some others, not having "pulled the plug" completely just yet. However it has currently moved to my number 3 priority, as am starting to build a list of several favourites at Sharks now, and several of my Oase favourites have left / disappeared being Sylvia (Hun. Would return in a flash to do her again) , Amalia (now at sharks) , Maria (not Marie) , Luna, Lena (long gone) , etc, leaving Lavinia, and a few 2nd tier type girls, not quite perfection. I suppose there are some good girls that I never even tried just yet, but not optifik enough to have "pulled the trigger". Someone else reported not having "pulled the plug" LOL (I think might have been the wrong metaphor) and not yet having taken the girl.

Shark Eater tells me I must now try Mainhatten, but I am scared about having favourites at too many different locations and the effect on my weekly budget.

[UltraHappy]

Why do you want to fly out early morning? Not to go directly to work I presume.

This is just when my return flight leaves. I don't control when my plane leaves. Morning return flights to the US actually work well for transatlantic flights because of the time difference. There are limited nonstop flight choices to my home city. So, this is just the way the times work out in my case.

I didn't want to post this on the public forum as I suspect no one else is interested in my response but since your account doesn't allow me to PM you, this was the only way I could answer your question. My apologies to everyone for cluttering up the forum with this rather uninteresting answer.

Don't worry Syz. I know why why you block PMs, so no need to explain.

[FredZee]

Thanks very much, nice report.

Did you negotiate upfront for multiple shots during the hour? Or is that a standard practice, I. E if you pay for an hour, you can have as many shots as possible in that hour?

What is the normal fkk rule on this? Is it standard, or to be negotiated session by session?

The assumption is that it is one "shot on goal" per 30min session. I didn't negotiate this upfront but when I was in the room I told the girls that I was interested in a relaxed session and 1 hour would be good. The reply was "great" and there was discussion of what to do first for the first "release" and then for the second.