FKK Parksauna Wildenrath

[Xavier Yves]

seems this clus is going down?

[Jackyo]

.. and there is nobody on the planet who knows Wildenrath like he does so if he says it now has improvemements to make, I believe him. I have been a Wildenrath fan but it sounds like its not going to be a destination until it cleans up.

I had a recent bad experience at Cocoon (you can read my post of last week) and also wasn't thrilled with the selection, unfortunately.

Now, Heavensgate, on the other hand, that was some club! There was a good selection, pricing was in Ordnung and they also had decent food.

What more would a man want (besides an Internet connection)?

I would do Heavensgate before I went to the other two.

[Peter]

If I owned the place I would not have pushed through this fucked up pricing. I would go for the Heavensgate pricing, which is pretty similar to the Cocoon pricing.

I used to love PSW. There was a time two years ago where it really had 8 of the hottest women working in the business. There was Domenika, who was a dream. The sort of girl you would worship in real life, Dana the romanian was hot to look at, Naomi was smoking, etc.

Now the only two really nice and reliable ones who are there on a regular basis are Monica and Victoria. Victoria is now the main reason I go. She has a smoking hardbody and at least with me we have a tonne fo fun in the room.

The rest of the polish troop there is sort of lame, and somehow I am no longer in love with the atmosphere. I have mainly been going for Victoria, and that is more of a personal thing between us.

Two years ago it was in my opinion THE club. Now I no longer feel so strongly. Although I have to say that I think the management team of that club is the nicest in the business.

I went to Coccon last weekend, and I was not very impressed.

There were 14 girls, but very few I wanted to be with. I sessioned with a polish hardbody with a face with a tonne of acne named Jenny. I had been with ehr before and her service is very good. Then after her I went for a bit of a cheap looking turkish girl named Ebru who used to work at Freudenbergstr. That was a passable, but not much more, session.

Other than those two there were no women I wanted to go with, no matter how low I was putting my standards.

This is strange because cocoon had often been a place where I found a lot of hot girls.

The buffet was very good though. I also like that you pay the girls directly after the session there now, because at that club I had gotten surprised twice at the door with more than I had expected.

The funny thing is that cocoon is one of the favourite clubs of the manager of PSW. he really likes it.

The atmospehre is sort of similar at both. If you like your clubs a bit cosier, then these are good choices.

But of my last trips to various clubs I was most happy with Heavens Gate. It is a hike all the way out there, but I thought the troop there was hot, and the pricing system is good and I liked the atmosphere. But that might have just been on that day.

Maybe it was just that hot german girl Kelly who I had so much fun with, but I really liked it.

Maybe I will head there tomorrow.

[Eurotrash]

Peter,

You are truly a great guide on this board. Sometimes I think you own the place though as much as you advertise it. I have been very tempted to go to PSW while in Germany, but ever since my first visit to Cocoon, I have been hooked. How do you compare these two places? From what I have read recently, I would prefer to stick with Cocoon. Last night there were at least 14 - 18 girls. At least 3-4 that were 9s.
But since it is the first of the month, I guess the locals are blowing their "pulver" right away. I don't mean that literal.

Out,

Eurotrash

P.S. actually thinking about heading out tonight.

If you're heading to Sao Paulo, Cafe Photo is a must!

[Xavier Yves]

The rate for the first half hour is 80€, and then I think it is 40€ for the second half hour and 30€ for each one after that or something like that..

Thank you for infos, Peter.

I think the club VC also applies this kind of pricing system, which I don't understand.

Do they want to encourage clients to have more sessions so that they charge high price for first half hour and lower for the followings?

[Peter]

Nothing good at the moment. I hope they change the pricing soon.

It is really no entrance fee - if you come, hve a few soft drinks and then leave without going to the room it costs you absolutely nothing. so if you want to just go have a look around it won't cost you a thing.

Soft drinks are free, beer is 5€.

The rate for the first half hour is 80€, and then I think it is 40€ for the second half hour and 30€ for each one after that or something like that.

It is not a good price system for someone like me who likes multiple sessions. I don't think it is doing well, and I hope they change it soon.

[Xavier Yves]

I suppose this club is re-opened now. Anyone has an updating of pricing and girls? Thank you in advance.

[Peter]

Yes, it is open, and the reopening is monday the 15th.

[Jack195]

Is this club open during the remodeling?

[Xavier Yves]

it seems so many people are anticipating their re-opening!! Will appreciate a report then

[Peter]

Seems to have been delayed a week. They told me the 15th on the phone today, but I think they would more likely do it on a friday or saturday than a monday.

Who knows, will keep posted.

I am not going to the reopening (never was closed) because I don't enjoy openings, having been at World and GT, and not enjoying either.

[Jackyo]

I like this club and am hoping to see the results of the remodeling some time.

This club is quiet, a good place to relax and medium size (fifteen girls max) and is the opposite of the large Frankfurt-style clubs or PHG which has the ambiance of Grand Central Station at rush hour.

I first visited this club years ago and was totally turned off by the aggressive hardsell. I remember it well: An Egyptian girl by the name of Sunny found me on the couch and sat on me insisting I had to take me to the room. "Wir sind ein passendes Paar" she said. She was very insistent. I was not interested but she wouldn't take no for an answer. It led to this really bizarre interaction with her trying to get her hands on my dick and me manuevering to get away. Finally she gave up after a good thirty minutes.

The place has changed: the customers probably complained and now you need to approach the women. In fact, you almost feel like the women aren't really there to work but to hang out, which is cool because there is no pressure and if you want to just talk, you will find someone to just talk to.

Compare this to the hectic pace at PHG.

In the Frankfurt clubs the most hardsell you will get are the women who walk by and ask if you wanted Gesellschaft (company). But they do not sit on you to make you take them.

The owner takes care of his girls and he practices editing, d.h. he just doesn't take any women who apply for jobs there, he makes sure they are appropriate, makes sure they understand his service philosophy, makes sure he provides sufficient variety (a good selection of blondes, brunettes, etc.. and not just one type of woman).

My main complaint about the larger Frankfurt-style clubs is that they take just anyone. The result is that there is a huge selection of women but there is usually too much of just one thing. There is a huge Rumanian selection at World, for example. They all look alike (jet black hair), some better looking than others but essentially they are interchangeable. I had a session with one of them in the Sexkino and five minutes after would not have been able to identify her in a police line up as she was just like any of the others.

At these larger clubs there is too much of a focus on increasing transactions. The women have no interest in making any kind of connection, creating any "relationships". The fact that they get a lot of tourist traffic compared to NRW also pushes them in this direction.

So if you are indeed new to the scene or have to spend time in Frankfurt anyway, by all means visit the clubs in Hessen. They do provide decent service and these services maybe don't exist where you are from. The lack of interaction and the chance of bumping into women who specialize in "Schnelle Abfertigung" in these larger clubs is a turn off for me.

Go to an out of the way NRW club like this and the women know they have to focus on service to get the customers back.

This club does get a lot of Dutch who cross the border to visit it. What better indication of a clubs quality than the Dutch who have liberalized sex where they live and who recognize a good value when they see it? The expression "going Dutch" is a well justified one.. when the Dutch travel elsewhere in Europe they bring their Wohnmobile with them and stock the Wohnmobile so they don't have to spend money where they are visiting..!

There are also almost no German women who work at the large Frankfurt clubs. This is not a good sign. This club has a few German women who work there.

Give me a well edited selection of a dozen or so 8s and 9s anytime in comparison to a large selection of forty 6s and 7s with an 8 and 9 thrown in there every now and then. In a club with an edited selection you can pick just about anyone and have a good time. In a club without an edited selection, you have to do the editing yourself.

Drinks are self-service. There is decent food which arrives later in the day. There is a sauna on the first floor. A tip: the showers upstairs work better than the showers downstairs. The garden area is a good place to stretch out on a lawnchair or to sit at a table. Contact is made at the bar area where the women sit on Barhocker but its nice and spacious and doesn't give you that claustrophobic feeling you get at PHG (at least how PHG used to be as I understand its been renovated). Rooms are upstairs as well as a couch area with a large screen TV.

Now if they will just get the renovations done with..

[Catalyst]

Here's a report on Wildenrath that I posted as part of a long report on the other clubs branch:

http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...&postcount=713

[Wanking]

Bloody good report there Peter.

[Euro100]

Ah, what the heck. Even if you would have "only" translated the report into English, it is still a great service to this board. I am not a stickler for copyright. And I stand by my decision to advertise your post as one of "distinction".

By the way, I have read on the Sao Paulo board that you intend to visit Brazil. I am looking forward to hooking up with you on Dec. 1 at FKKW; then I can tell you all about my Brazil adventures and how they compare to the FKK scene. I have reported most of that stuff in the 2005 Rio reports section of the Brazil part of the board. But I have many more stories, old and new, that I was just too lazy to write up.

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