Other FKK Clubs

[Sirioja]

Except that we were both regulars for Kate, Lucy and Ariana and I thought Megan was pretty. Hmmmm🤔🤔🤔

Quantity will eventually lead to quality. Thats just math; probabilty and statistics to be exact.

I'll stick with my girls behavior bias theory😀

Ariana was hot GFE for sex, but not what I call a beauty. I would say Lucy is cute, she was attractive at Palace, kissing for free for our 4 first 1 hour rooms, I stopped the fifth after 15 mn, but not so attractive for me at GT, compare to woman types.

I confirm not many girls attract my eyes at Sharks since Summer 2016, of course hunting warriors don't, not my image of women.

[Takedown]

We just don't have same eyes for beauties, .

Except that we were both regulars for Kate, Lucy and Ariana and I thought Megan was pretty. Hmmmm🤔🧐🤔 Seems like similar eyes to me.

Quantity don't make quality.

Quantity will eventually lead to quality. Thats just math; probabilty and statistics to be exact. You shouldnt argue against math🤓

That being said, I'll stick with my theory for you that girls behavior blinds your eyes😃

Or perhaps some other bias against Sharks😉

Linda lives in south Frankfurt. So many pretty Hamburg girls seen.

Girls who start WORKING in Hessen do not often move to NRW to work, at least less often than the reverse. Living or being from one place and working in another has nothing to do with my other point. And a German girl not working in her home town? I think it’s obvious why.

[Sirioja]

Despite sirioja's protests, the majority of beautiful ones will still find themselves at the mega clubs because, in the end, those hot girls will follow the traffic to the MMFKKs, as you say. You often hear of girls starting in NRW and moving to Hessen. Much less often do you hear of girls who started in Hessen and moving to NRW.

We just don't have same eyes for beauties, I saw many beauties in small clubs, like Bahama for Alina. Ro, History Basel Liestal, Atmos, Harmony. I'm pretty sure no beauty like blond German Linda. De at small Harmony with only about 20 girls on Friday and Saturday, at big Sharks with more than 100 girls. If there was a beauty like her at Sharks, everybody would run for her and write about her. I saw her starting at 2 pm, with her friend, they stayed always together, I tried to understand how Linda behave for more than 4 hours, when she smiled to me I went to her, I was her first of the day at 6.30 pm, I was sure it would be only a optifuck, no other guy dare to go before me, she doesn't speak much English and only a few French words, but it was just fluent sex with a real beauty. I'm afraid I will have to drive 900 kms for her beauty.

Quantity don't make quality, but send me your Sharks beauties. Evita may be good to sell illusion I look for, but not a dreamed beauty for her face.

Linda lives in south Frankfurt. So many pretty Hamburg girls seen.

[Takedown]

I think the clubs are an interesting dynamic where in many cases some limitation of something could be beneficial. Too many bears and not enough women ends with frustrated bears. Too many women and not enough bears ends with frustrated women. Too many bears and women ends with long waiting times. Too much food and free beer and the women complain that the bears are to drunk and too lazy to want or be able to have sex. There is a perfect mix somewhere but I'm still trying to find it. Imagine, beautiful women, great performances, maybe some fluffers working the couches, awesome food and drink, rooms for everyone and cialis and Viagra in the candy dish.

Sounds like the glory days of World 5 or 6 years ago. No waits, good ratios, nice line ups, decent indoor public action, and maybe the best outdoor action I've ever had.

[Takedown]

I have known some beautiful women who worked in lower-paying clubs like Haus Panthera because they couldn't take the stress of places like Sharks.

Despite sirioja's protests, the majority of beautiful ones will still find themselves at the mega clubs because, in the end, those hot girls will follow the traffic to the MMFKKs, as you say. You often hear of girls starting in NRW and moving to Hessen. Much less often do you hear of girls who started in Hessen and moving to NRW.

[Takedown]

By having quality standards, FKKs could also increase the quantity of women coming to them. Perhaps even some nicer normal German girls (not gang types) would consider this a viable profession where they didn't before.

Pretty sure registration shot down all hopes of that ever happening.

[Takedown]

Quality beats quantity.
Anyone who thinks otherwise is being an idiot.

This is not rocket science, but it is however contrary to economic theory which only talks about market competition. But that's a stupid theory and made up by total idiots who advocate social dumping. And f social dumping is what we want on prostitutes, then you will only get hate in return.

LOL, the US is the biggest economy in the world. Market competition and social dumping may as well be the backbone of this economy. Our national economic philosophy is pretty similar to the point of view of the club owners that Rogue Nation suggests.

Quantity leads to quality. You just have to sort out the shit that comes with it. But through the shit you get Tesla, Facebook, Microsoft, Apple, Amazon, Disney, Google, etc.

And what do you mean IF social dumping is what you want? Poor Romanian girls are already working as prostitutes in Germany. Social dumping has been the backbone of FKKs for over a decade.

[Sirioja]

The silent majority of girls doesn't want to work at the clubs because of the standards and rules already existing. As those standards are deteriorating (BBBJ illegal, kissing not a real must, for 50 EUR it's BJ and sex for 20-30 min) there are more girls coming to the clubs who worked at apartments or houses before. That silent majority will not increase quality of women or service, it will have the opposite effect. The TOP girls are the ones who started at FKK clubs, worked there for quite a long time and built up a good reputation and many regulars by understanding the system and giving good value for money. The new girls are the ones who brought service levels down at Sharks. And of course not to forget the newbies and tourists willing to accept higher prices for less service.

Sharks has more girls than ever. More guests than ever (not a better male / female ratio for the girls, but higher absolute attendance from men and women). So the owners are maximizing profit. They live from what men / women pay to get into the club. As long as there's enough people coming they don't give a fuck about the quality of girls (service / looks). And even if there's less customers coming because quality of service is going down, they don't take any serious measure to change it. Look at Palace or Oase, customer count is down and still girls with bad service or their own creative prices do not consequently get kicked out.

So much for economic theory in the P6 environment. The people running those clubs do not have a management degree.

Even I'm not old in FKK land, but I agree for Sharks quality falling compare to when there were only about 50/60 girls, but some beauties, not GND land for tourists.

Fortunately, can sometimes find a really new fresh girl like I did on Friday night, without fake nails, without silicon, tattoes, piercing, virgin skin and so sensitive.

[Pistons]

Look at Palace or Oase, customer count is down and still girls with bad service or their own creative prices do not consequently get kicked out.

So much for economic theory in the P6 environment. The people running those clubs do not have a management degree.

Well, indirectly Palace did kick out some girls last year. Question is just of these kicked out girls were the ones who should have been kicked out.

For your last point, I'm afraid I agree. They think short term and the lack of long term strategy is frightening. Some clubs are better than others, but most clubs make massive mess ups from Palace, Oase (remember the a la carte food mess up?) and Sharks, to Oceans (Asian strategy in Europe hasn't worked out that well), Acapulco (place is falling apart, and girls do 15 min rooms), Paradise Stuttgart, PHG and Samya. Some clubs also have no clue regarding crisis management, and how to prevent future complications.

[Pistons]

Go discuss with Metin at Sharks about that.

It is not rocket science that he takes 80 EUR (or whatever it is now) from each girl he lets work in the club. Clearly quantity beats quality for him to maximize his profit.

That's why these clubs actually should be regulated.

[Sirioja]

Go discuss with Metin at Sharks about that.

It is not rocket science that he takes 80 EUR (or whatever it is now) from each girl he lets work in the club. Clearly quantity beats quality for him to maximize his profit.

Yes, since Autumn 2016, more numerous girls at Sharks than on 2015 and until Easter 2016, but where are the past topgirls? Who are the elegant look and behavior? Who are the new Katalina / Kate, Ilka, Karin?

Sharks became a sex factory with no selection for girls, club for tourists.

At GT, when a new girl start, desk ask how it was with her? Some girls are fired on their first day. Fortunately, GT opened now doors to Romanian beauties.

[BigBuddy69]

Haus Panthera was well known for the average quality of service, not for the looks of the girls. Exactly the opposite of Sharks!

[Rogue Nation]

But by maintaining good environments, they could attract the silent majority of girls who don't want to work in an MMFKK (Mad Max FKK). I have known some beautiful women who worked in lower-paying clubs like Haus Panthera because they couldn't take the stress of places like Sharks.

So it's not a simple trade-off between quality and quantity. By having quality standards, FKKs could also increase the quantity of women coming to them. Perhaps even some nicer normal German girls (not gang types) would consider this a viable profession where they didn't before.

The silent majority of girls doesn't want to work at the clubs because of the standards and rules already existing. As those standards are deteriorating (BBBJ illegal, kissing not a real must, for 50 EUR it's BJ and sex for 20-30 min) there are more girls coming to the clubs who worked at apartments or houses before. That silent majority will not increase quality of women or service, it will have the opposite effect. The TOP girls are the ones who started at FKK clubs, worked there for quite a long time and built up a good reputation and many regulars by understanding the system and giving good value for money. The new girls are the ones who brought service levels down at Sharks. And of course not to forget the newbies and tourists willing to accept higher prices for less service.

Sharks has more girls than ever. More guests than ever (not a better male / female ratio for the girls, but higher absolute attendance from men and women). So the owners are maximizing profit. They live from what men / women pay to get into the club. As long as there's enough people coming they don't give a fuck about the quality of girls (service / looks). And even if there's less customers coming because quality of service is going down, they don't take any serious measure to change it. Look at Palace or Oase, customer count is down and still girls with bad service or their own creative prices do not consequently get kicked out.

So much for economic theory in the P6 environment. The people running those clubs do not have a management degree.

[Polyamorist]

Funny post. However, doubt there's anyone else that thinks there are too many girls for there to be a limit on them.

Well I agree with Pistons that clubs need to focus more on quality. In fact it seems like a no-brainer to me. If CountryA (e. G. Switzerland) has quality control, while CountryB (e. G. Germany) has no quality control, then things are bound to evolve to a state where CountryB is only getting the rejects from CountryA.

It's about quality of behavior not just looks. Clubs are afraid of kicking out gang types because they will miss the "quantity". But by maintaining good environments, they could attract the silent majority of girls who don't want to work in an MMFKK (Mad Max FKK). I have known some beautiful women who worked in lower-paying clubs like Haus Panthera because they couldn't take the stress of places like Sharks.

So it's not a simple trade-off between quality and quantity. By having quality standards, FKKs could also increase the quantity of women coming to them. Perhaps even some nicer normal German girls (not gang types) would consider this a viable profession where they didn't before.

[Rogue Nation]

This is not rocket science, but it is however contrary to economic theory which only talks about market competition. But that's a stupid theory and made up by total idiots who advocate social dumping. And f social dumping is what we want on prostitutes, then you will only get hate in return.

Go discuss with Metin at Sharks about that.

It is not rocket science that he takes 80 EUR (or whatever it is now) from each girl he lets work in the club. Clearly quantity beats quality for him to maximize his profit.