Other FKK Clubs

[Willem2]

The website is open : http://www.villavertigo.de/

Now we have to wait till the club will open.

[Jackyo]

I am surprised at you Jackyo, you are usually such a gentleman.

The right answer is, when they are in hearing distance, "ALL women get better with age.. just like fine wine".

And don't dwell on how fine wine doesn't travel well, whatever you do !

Now repeat that 3 times just as you enter Bernd's and kiss Connie's hand in greeting. ;-)) Off you go now, and enjoy.

.. "gentleman" loosely when you describe me.

Connie, as you know, has aged very gracefully... just like a fine wine.

[Jackyo]

This clears up what was wrong with my visits at Partytreffs. I surely was there at the same time as Jackyo, Smelly Vagina and the rest of your gang - the handsome and smart guys - took seize of all the charming ladies. Narrowing my choice to the ugly, the hag or the stinking :-)

... I wish this were true but unfortunately, I'm just about as average as the most average guy. Dashing and debonair doesn't really apply to me. :-)

You might then want to start with the women I'm surroundend by in my normal life: they do look like barrels!

Ha!

[Breadman]

Some women get better with age.. just like a fine wine!
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And they pass that knowledge on down to their daughters. And its up to the Breadman to test to see if they were paying attention...

[Excess]

Some women get better with age.. just like a fine wine!

You get the picture.

Later,

I am surprised at you Jackyo, you are usually such a gentleman.

The right answer is, when they are in hearing distance, "ALL women get better with age.. just like fine wine".

And don't dwell on how fine wine doesn't travel well, whatever you do !

Now repeat that 3 times just as you enter Bernd's and kiss Connie's hand in greeting. ;-)) Off you go now, and enjoy.

[Jackyo]

jackyo

you can be the robert parker of sex!! Of course you will have to sample a girl many times to see how she has matured. lol.

Some women get better with age.. just like a fine wine!

I can picture a time though when one has accumulated so many sessions that one can do a chick blindfold and say:

"She is definitely Hungarian. Probably from the shores of Lake Balaton. Vintage? I would say 1983. 1983 was a very good year. Mildly acidic. Full bodied. Leaves no after taste. "

I have a recurring fantasy, by the way, of being able to visit a club and do a degustation just like a wine tasting. Women line up and I, blindfolded, have a chance to sample each one. And then I guess who is who:

"Hmm... must be that leggy Russian blonde. This one must be that Turkish chick with the nice curves."

Its only really probably doable at a PT though.

You get the picture.

Later,

[Akibono]

jackyo

you can be the robert parker of sex!! Of course you will have to sample a girl many times to see how she has matured. lol.

[Varenne]

My experience with PTs is this: if you can connect with the women, you will be rewarded with sessions which are long and unhurried and which provide enough foreplay

This clears up what was wrong with my visits at Partytreffs. I surely was there at the same time as Jackyo, Smelly Vagina and the rest of your gang - the handsome and smart guys - took seize of all the charming ladies. Narrowing my choice to the ugly, the hag or the stinking :-)

I have had this thought of maybe one day writing reviews of women which are similar to wine reviews:

You might then want to start with the women I'm surroundend by in my normal life: they do look like barrels!

[Varenne]

Gattonero, can you tell us which hotel you stayed...rates etc? website?

Sorry, can't help you here. I deemed my hit and run tactic didn't allow enought time to make bothering for an hotel stayover worthwhile.
As Jacko remarked, I flied into Weeze airport (Ryanair operated) and rented a car there (you can get a Smart for as low as some 10 euro a day).

For hotel research, www.niederrhein-tourismus.de might be a good starting point.

[Jackyo]

Gattonero, can you tell us which hotel you stayed...rates etc? website?

PHG is close to 32 miles away...not a short run at night. But I can see if they had enough girls working during the daytime I could see visiting...paying the 100 euro's...and trying to go thru all 10 15 minute bookings in 3 hours. Then onto PHG to relax ;-)

Gattonero mentions flying into Weeze which is an airport used by Ryanair.

[Jackyo]

You make some excellent points here.

A hybrid FKK-PT club is an odd combination, if you ask me but, hey, someone was imaginative enough to try to combine the two.

You might think that I fuck like a rabbit ... and I probably do ;-). Fact is that I was satisfied with the sex I had at Vangoch. Instead, at all the Partytreff I tried so far, foreplay was virtually nonexistent, sex boring and severely limited in variations, special services plainly unavailable (and rather 'normal' ones as well, I should say). Despite no time limit is clearly enforced, I recall I was asked to finish most of my Partytreff sessions with an hand job, drenched in baby oil and in my own fluids. I Can't say for sure if that was due to 'uninspired' sex, or to Partytreff sessions being timed more restrictively than at Vangoch, although in a more sneaky fashion.

I laughed at the image of you screwing like a rabbit!

My experience with PTs is this: if you can connect with the women, you will be rewarded with sessions which are long and unhurried and which provide enough foreplay (though I have to admit, they mostly don't kiss). You do have to connect with them. If not, they will rush you through a session to try to get rid of you.

The other thing is this: Don't expect this kind of service when they are busy. If there are lines of guys waiting by the doorway, she will be less inclined to give you more than a basic session.

I have received unrushed sessions at a PT but I have to take these two factors into account.

As for Smelly Vagina’s idea of fast chaining two single sessions without leaving the room: I haven’t enquired, but I suspect that could be arranged, at least on a day as quiet as the one I experienced. It would probably involve a condom swap, but isn’t it the same at a Partytreff? I think is also possible to partake with more than one girl at a time, each one will mark a session on the card.

At PTs I've been to where the women do two-on-one sessions, it is possible to switch partners halfway through. It usually requires a change in condom (though I have seen it done also without).

I think of this as kind of a wine tasting. You put your dick in one, swirl it around to get a sense of what she is about and then you put your dick in the other one and do the same. I usually don't come unless she is really, really hot temperature-wise.

As in a wine tasting, one doesn't really swallow. Its just to get a taste of her and then I kind of spit her out.

I have had this thought of maybe one day writing reviews of women which are similar to wine reviews:

"High energy level. Warm to the touch, warm where it matters most. Dry cherry aromas and flavors. Nose of ripe black cherry, cola, and hints of earth. Acidity is high, in line with the ample fruit and ideal for food matching. A good dose of mouthwatering acidity. Flavors were similar — black cherry, cranberry, raspberry, mild tobacco, and tar. Tannins are medium to extreme. Finishes fairly quickly, but with good balance and harmony. Have this chick when you are in the mood for a thick grilled steak and potatoes."

How is that for another literary challenge?

[Varenne]

PHG is close to 32 miles away...not a short run at night.

Damn! You just made me aware that I managed to fuck up my first post on the board, and can't even find out of to edit my posting...

I excuse with the readers, for mentioning and blaming the wrong club. PHG (Planet Happy Garden) is a very nice and recommendable club, and it closes at 01.00. But that is NOT the club I moved to after Vangoch.

The club I moved to after Vangoch is instead FunGarden in Emmerich, about 25km away from Goch. The web site says it closes at 06.00. What is the true I do not know, as around 03.00 I was thrown out from the club for no apparent reason (the owner pretending the club was closing up; how strange no other customer was asked to leave at the same time). This the main reason I could not recommend this club, there could be more (probably related?). I will post a complete report, if anyone is interested. Maybe any regular there could try to provide an explanation for experience?

Again, PHG is a nice club and by no means related to FunGarden. Sorry for making a mess. Anyone knows how could I edit and correct my own message?

[Breadman]

Gattonero, can you tell us which hotel you stayed...rates etc? website?

PHG is close to 32 miles away...not a short run at night. But I can see if they had enough girls working during the daytime I could see visiting...paying the 100 euro's...and trying to go thru all 10 15 minute bookings in 3 hours. Then onto PHG to relax ;-)

[Varenne]

Thanks for commenting on my report. Your posts make it quite clear what I had already sensed. Main problem with Vangoch club is that they call it ‘a Partytreff' an offer which is definitely something different, rather a single session bundle offer. The related information on their website is totally misleading, and they should correct it at the earliest opportunity. I guess you’re both Partytreff enthusiasts, and as such would quite rightly get upset if you happened to learn the details of Vangoch 'bizzare' formula only after knocking at their door.

On the other end, I have never been very happy with a Partytreff so far, perhaps I just hit the wrong ones. Entering Vangoch, I actually hadn't still made up my mind, and was waiting to have a close look at the club and girls line-up, and then decide if I should go for the Partytreff or for selected single sessions. I was therefore glad to accept their formula, which falls somewhere in the middle between a Partytreff and an FKK. It was a fortunate coincidence that the change from what is advertised on the website resulted in favor of my personal taste. The club shouldn't take a chance, and should instead provide correct information to prospective customers.

As for the 15 minutes limit, it was slack enough for me to let me finish 5 sessions out of 6, and that included a reasonable foreplay time. You might think that I fuck like a rabbit ... and I probably do ;-). Fact is that I was satisfied with the sex I had at Vangoch. Instead, at all the Partytreff I tried so far, foreplay was virtually nonexistent, sex boring and severely limited in variations, special services plainly unavailable (and rather 'normal' ones as well, I should say). Despite no time limit is clearly enforced, I recall I was asked to finish most of my Partytreff sessions with an hand job, drenched in baby oil and in my own fluids. I Can't say for sure if that was due to 'uninspired' sex, or to Partytreff sessions being timed more restrictively than at Vangoch, although in a more sneaky fashion.

As for Smelly Vagina’s idea of fast chaining two single sessions without leaving the room: I haven’t enquired, but I suspect that could be arranged, at least on a day as quiet as the one I experienced. It would probably involve a condom swap, but isn’t it the same at a Partytreff? I think is also possible to partake with more than one girl at a time, each one will mark a session on the card.

I surely would have liked better if the 10-session credit could be used without the restriction of changing girl every time, like some sort of 150 minutes session time credit. But I think the system is deliberately conceived to try to equally distribute the workload among all the girls, irrespective of their attractiveness, and also to offer the girls a chance to get extra money from extended sessions. While this is odd from a customer standpoint, I suspect the prospective additional income definitely helps to change the uninspired Partytreff girls in willing sex performers.

Whatever, I’m happy to think that Vangoch might pave the way to a new kind of low cost sex offer. I’ll gladly evaluate any additional kind of offer the clubs might elaborate to gain their market share. But trying to attracting Partytreff oriented customers spreading misleading or intentionally inaccurate information, this I find not acceptable. Vangoch webmaster should take corrective action without delay.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here for more information.

[Wanking]

Instead it includes 10 single sessions, each lasting up to 15 minutes, and each one with a different girl. It also includes entrance, unlimited stay and use of club facilities, a rich warm buffet, and unlimited free beverages from a rather restricted list.

Good report Gattonero, but that whole 10 x15 mins is a little bizarre really. 15 mins is not enough for me, thats for sure. Suppose u could start a session with one girl, and then finish with another girl, or do the foreplay with one, and then fuck the other using 2 x 15 min slots. But starting one session not cumming, and then running out to get another girl would not be ideal really would it.

Also I hate watching the clock, thats why I rarely go to FKKs anymore.

This place is another case of an Fkk that has hit hard times, so they decided to start a partytreff and dont do it right, just like Partytreff Lüdinghausen where I had a disasterous time last March. These former FKK owners cant get their heads around the idea that a fixed priced means that the punter doesnt have to pay anymore while he is in the club.

Trying to do little upsells in a partytreff annoys me... and I agree with Jackyos post too.

Some good pics though
http://www.fkk-vangoch.de/1.htm