Other FKK Clubs

[Iseeu]

There is an FKK club featured near the start of this series, can any of you sexperts identify it??

The now closed Atlantis is also featured through out, especially near the end.

http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...&postcount=150

The pool and exercise equipment in te first clip are from Atlantis. I recognize the gray slate paving around te pool.
Sankt Augustine is also shown a couple of times.

[Wanking]

There is an FKK club featured near the start of this series, can any of you sexperts identify it??

The now closed Atlantis is also featured through out, especially near the end.

http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...&postcount=150

[Jackyo]

We call it a vicious cycle of a death spiral.

In English the devil has nothing to do with it all!

[Jackyo]

A day trip? The Colosseum is less than 80 km from Munich depending on where you stay in Munich. By car its a bit more than 30min. By public transport, you can easily take a train to Augsburg mainstation and take a taxi.

In addition there are also hotels in Augsburg. During my last business trip I took a hotel in Augsburg, and it was very relaxed to drive 5 min to the hotel when I was tired and happy after the good sessions in Cola.

Hunter

They were his words not mine.

I think he meant to say that is a day trip from the Erlangen-Nuermberg neck of the woods.

[Iseeu]

Maybe it should reposition itself as a PT. A really good PT will get a draw from several hundred kilometers if a) it builds a good reputation, b) attracts the right women, c) is fairly priced and d) it lives up to its promise of providing as much as you want with whomever you want (what is, in other words, the true sense of a PT).

Without meaning to insult anyone, but usually a club owner resorts to PT to attract an "income challenged" crowd after he reaches the conclusion that he's not able to draw the higher spending clientele and is club is no longer physically first-rate. This club is too high end and too large for a PT, and the economics of a partytreff can't possibly support the upkeep for a club of this size.
Now don't go biting my butt off for the "income challenged" remark. I'm also a PT afficianado, so no offense was meant to anybody.
Harem would make a great swingers club. But, unless the management is creative enough to figure out how to keep it busy during the week and not only on the weekends, and committed enough to promote it as such over a sustained period of time in order to build up a community of regulars, the economics of a swinger club are even harsher than a PT.

[Akibono]

The result is a Teufelskreis (how do you say this in English: Devil's circle?): because there aren't enough customers, the women don't like to work there but because there aren't enough women who work there, there aren't enough customers and around and around it goes.

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We call it a vicious cycle of a death spiral.

[Jackyo]

Too bad but the postings about this club are quite consistent: it has great facilties-wise but because its in the middle of nowhere it can't attract the right women to work there and it doesn't have enough Laufkundschaft (or customer traffic) to sustain it.

The result is a Teufelskreis (how do you say this in English: Devil's circle?): because there aren't enough customers, the women don't like to work there but because there aren't enough women who work there, there aren't enough customers and around and around it goes.

The owner's fixed expenses must be killing him and there doesn't seem to be anything which will let him break out of the circle. He advertises already quite heavily on the RF, among other places.

The same goes for Parkschloss Dali.

Maybe it should reposition itself as a PT. A really good PT will get a draw from several hundred kilometers if a) it builds a good reputation, b) attracts the right women, c) is fairly priced and d) it lives up to its promise of providing as much as you want with whomever you want (what is, in other words, the true sense of a PT).

[Jackyo]

This was posted by Blackrider551 on the RF about Afrodit and Sylt in Nuermberg.

Again, this report doesn't quite inspire one to go out there and visit these two clubs. The title itsself says "Afrodit and Sylt in Nuermberg, twice crap".

Nordbayern is a Niemandsland in the geography of FKK clubs. Schade eigentlich aber besser das Geld woanders auszugeben.

afrodit und sylt zu nürnberg, zweimal Mist

Nun war es also am Samstag so weit und wir legten mit unserem Boot ab Richtung Nürnberg, den Sauna Club Afrodit zu inspizieren. Da wir uns bei Google Earth schon einen Überblick verschafft hatten, stellte uns die Navigation vor keinerlei Probleme. Wir verankerten unser Boot in rückwärtigen Hafenbecken und kündigten bei der Hafenkommandatur unser Einlaufen an.
Jeder von uns hatte 30,-- € Liegegebühr zu entrichten, nun ja, ein günstiger Hafen scheinbar, war darin ja die Benutzung von Sauna, Dampfbad und weiterer Annehmlichkeiten inkludiert, die Getränke in der Hafenbar natürlich auch. Der Hafen selbst macht einen sehr gepflegten Eindruck, schöne Zimmer, sehr gepflegt, schön schön.

Wir begaben uns, nachdem wir unsere Seekleidung gegen Bademäntel getauscht hatten in die Hafenbar um uns etwas zu stärken und die von der Seeluft ausgetrockneten Kehlen zu befeuchten.

In der Bar befanden sich außer der Hafenkommandantin, die uns schon empfangen hatte lediglich noch drei Hafenbedienstete, davon eine ziemlich schwergewichtige Matrone, eine solala und eine recht hübsche, allerdings alle zur Gänze bekleidet, komisch in nem Saunaclub, oder?. Wir orderten jeder ein Glas Süßwasser und wunderten uns etwas ob des geringen Personalstandes. Die solala erzählte dann etwas von nem Striptease, den sie gerne für uns aufführen wolle. Nun ja, sooo sehr stand uns der Sinn eigentlich nicht danach. Sie meinte allerdings dass der Strip zu unserer Entspannung sehr dienlich sei und für den Strip ja nur 25,-€ zu entrichten seien. Wie?? Extragebühr für nen Strip? Wir verneinten natürlich. Schliesslich betete sie die Preisliste herunter, 50,-- die Kurznummer, 100,-- die halbe und 150,-- die ganze Stunde. Was ist los?? Wir zogen uns kurz in das Kinozimmer zurück, knirschten mit den Zähnen, beschlossen dass wir hier nicht bleiben und lieber noch das nahegelegene Sylt anlaufen würden. Der Schaden hielt sich ja bislang in Grenzen.

Zusammenfassend ist zu sagen, dass es sich beim Afrodit um ein stinknormales Puff handelt, welches allerdings Eintritt verlangt, meines/unseres Erachtens keinesfalls eine Empfehlung wert.

Wir legten also ab und schipperten die paar Kilometer ins Sylt. Rein in die Hütte, mir war sofort klar, hier ist irgend etwas anders als bisher, den Eintritt in der Bar abgedrückt, ausgekleidet, in die Bar zurück. Nun fiel es mir wie Schuppen aus den Haaren oder wie war das noch mal? Auch hier alle Tussen angezogen!!! Werden die Weiber plötzlich gschamig??? Die Dreibeiner hatten weniger an als die Weiber, ja geht’s no? Wir hockten ein wenig rum, schliesslich erspähte ich eine Brasil, genau mein klassisches Zielobjekt, nicht zu klein, sehr schlank, lange Haare, krass die Tante, Beatrice war ihr Name glaub ich mich zu erinnern.. Ich wurde schnell handelseinig mit ihr und machte mich in die oberen Gemächer auf. Hier aber, au weia, etwas besserer Laufhaussex. Mein Kumpel fand ebenfalls sein Zielobjekt, wie immer etwas breiter mit massiven Ohren. Auch er war wenig angetan. Wir verfluchten unser Pech und brachen hier die Sache ab, die Tante an der Bar fragte noch ob alles in Ordnung war, ich sagte ihr na klar, für ein Laufhaus war’s ganz ok. Sie schaute blöd aber zuckte mit den Schultern.

Jedenfalls werden wir so schnell die Nürnberger Gefilde nicht mehr aufsuchen, a so a Scheiss.

In diesem Sinne haut rein Jungs, aber meidet die Orte wo wir waren.

Blackrider

Fazit: He chose a nautical theme and describes taking their boot to Nuermberg and anchoring it first at Afrodit. The mooring fee was 30 Euros per person which included use of the sauna, steam bath and drinks at the bar. Facilities were top notch. They undress and head to the bar to get some drinks. Three women were present: a very large chick, one who was only so-so and one nice looking one. They were all dressed which is odd for a sauna club. The so-so one offered to a striptease but said it would cost 25 Euros. Was?! They said no, of course. Then she went through the price list: 50 Euros for a short session, 100 for a half hour and 150 for an hour. Was?! They (apparently he was with a friend) head for the Kino where they decide to cut their losses and head for Sylt. Afrodit is a normal Puff which just so happens to require an entry fee. It does not merit a recommendation.

Sylt is a couple of kilometers away. They enter the club, pay the fee and undress. The women were all dressed (!), the men had less on than the women. They sat around a bit and he went with a Brazilian chick. Not too small, svelt, long hair. Her name was Beatrice. It was no better than Laufhaussex. His friend did not better. As they left the club the Thekenfrau asked if everything was okay. He replied that it was okay for a Laufhaus (but certainly not for an FKK club). She gave them a dumb look and shrugged her shoulders.

His one word summary of these two clubs: Crapola or better yet: crap or even better: shit. Better to avoid the two clubs he and his friend visited.

This reminds me. There is a carbonated drink here with the name of Mist. I can tell you that it would never sell in Germany.

One thing I'll mention about clubs in Bayern that seems to come up in postings about them: what is standard practice in NRW or Hessen (BBBJs or kissing, z. B.) require an Aufpreis in Bayern. These extras are charged a fee and this is why things can be more expensive there. If there is anything which will kill the mood for me quickly its the constant upsell.

From these descriptions these are also very small clubs with only a handful of women working at them. Hardly fits the requirements for a destination club.

Again: NRW and Hessen are the primary destinations for this activity. Save your money for when you get there.

[Hunter105]

.................. The only club that stands out is ColA (Colosseum in Augsburg) but that is a day trip away when one spends the night in Rosenheim or Muenchen on a business trip.

A day trip? The Colosseum is less than 80 km from Munich depending on where you stay in Munich. By car its a bit more than 30min. By public transport, you can easily take a train to Augsburg mainstation and take a taxi.

In addition there are also hotels in Augsburg. During my last business trip I took a hotel in Augsburg, and it was very relaxed to drive 5 min to the hotel when I was tired and happy after the good sessions in Cola.

Hunter

[Jackyo]

Any idea how this (http://www.fkk-orient.de/) club is. What is their price structure?

This is by Jean-P from the RF.

He summarizes his views in English quite succintly: Never ever again.

fkk orient NEVER EVER AGAIN!

war kürzlich im scheinbar neuem fkk orient.
war leider auch das letzte mal obwohl ich öfters in nürnberg tätig bin.
39 euro eintritt hinterlegt, danach wurde ich kurz von einer etwas korbulenteren dame. name hab ich leider vergessen. da sie eh nicht so mein fall war. durch das haus geführt, klein aber naja.hab ich mich dann entkleidet,duschen usw...
kurz darauf habe ich mich an die bar begeben und mir fiel relativ schnell auf, dass ich fast der einzigste dreibeiner an diesem abend war.
nun gut mann versucht eben immer das beste daraus zu machen, von dem angekündigtem büffet war nichts zu sehen anscheinend muss vor mir die hölle los gewesen sein oder die damen hatten reichlichen hunger
anwesend waren: die empfangsdame, wie oben bereits schon erwähnt, dann noch eine korbulente dame mit südländischem touch könnte eine türkin gewesen sein .....etwas älteres model.
noch weitere 2 kubannerinnen... wusste gar nicht, dass es in kuba so hässliche frauen gibt.
an der bar gesellte sich zu mir gleich die türkin was mir etwas für meinem geschmack zu aufdringlich und zu professionell erschien.
nach einem bier und langweiligem steifen rumgerede bin ich dann doch mit der älteren dame auf das zimmer. wählte ein standard programm 30 min. + küssen, + fo war einfach unbeschreiblich beschi....!
danach 200 euros gelöhnt ....für die katz
konnte den club gar nicht schnell genug verlassen.
zum glück gibt es noch andere schlechte clubs wobei dieser mit abstand der schlechteste und teuerste ist.
mein resumee: NEVER EVER AGAIN!

Fazit: Entry fee was 39 Euros. He was given a tour by a corpulent woman at the Theke. The club is small. He undresses and takes a shower. He heads to the bar and realizes he is the only three legged person there. He thought he would make the most of it but there was no trace of the buffet which was promised. Maybe there had been a crowd which had come in before him or maybe the large corpulent chick had eaten it all. There was another fat chick with a Mediterranean look (could have been Turkish but definitely of a certain age as the French would say). Then two women from Cuba. He had no idea that women from Cuba were so ugly. At the bar the Turkish chick came to his side but his sense was she was too pushy and professional. After a beer, he went with the large woman but a standard program for thirty minutes including kissing and a covered BJ cost 200 Euros. He couldn't leave this club quickly enough.

[Jackyo]

Questions about Bayern keep coming up so I thought I'd find someone else's opinion so you won't have to take my word on this topic.

This is Bunnyman's short but sweet post on this topic, particularly as regards the Nuermberger Umgebung. As usual this comes from the RF.

Also ich empfinde Bayern im Bereich des PaySex insgesamt immer noch als eine wirkliches Entwicklungsland. Natürlich gibt es überall etwas, aber wenn man die Ballunggebiete sieht Wohin kann man in Nürnberg? Was ist mit FKK Clubs im Raum Würzburg, Bamberg, Rosenheim, Ingolstadt??? Nichts! und in München? Fast alles übertrieben teuer! Einziger Lichtblick ist das Cola - was aber auch schon eine Tagestour entfernt ist wenn man geschäftlich in Rosenheim oder München übernachtet...

CU Bunny

Fazit: Bayern is, IHHO, a developing country as far as paid sex is concerned. There is activity everywhere but where can one go in Nuernberg? For that matter are there any FKK clubs in Wuerzburg, Bamberg, Rosenheim or Ingolstadt? Nothing! And in Muenchen? Almost everything is expensive. The only club that stands out is ColA (Colosseum in Augsburg) but that is a day trip away when one spends the night in Rosenheim or Muenchen on a business trip.

[Great Wall]

Any idea how this (http://www.fkk-orient.de/) club is. What is their price structure?

[Iseeu]

Saunaclub Harem
Zum Strothebach 1
33175 Bad Lippspringe (bei Paderborn)
http://www.saunaclubharem.de/

Took one for the team a few weeks ago. Had to be in the Ost NRW recently twice for business meetings. I was all set on trying PT Warstein, but some negative reports changed that plan, and some late work-related conference calls made it irrelevant, so instead I found myself at Harem at about 10 p.m. on a Weds. night. At the worst, I’d be able to report on a club that’s been off the radar.

If you’re in the area, getting there isn't difficult, as it’s just outside the triangle made by the A2, A33, and A44. Large building in a wooded industrial estate outside of Bad Lippespringe which is a health spa town and therefore has many hotel options. There’s a big, unguarded parking lot which was nearly empty with only 10 – 15 cars. The building is huge, and very well designed for an FKK club, and looks to have once been a small dormitory/treatment center for spa goers, otherwise it’s hard to figure what the building was originally built for. There’s a 2-tiered entry fee. Only 35 Euro if you bring your own towel and robe, but then you have to pay for your drinks (incl. water), or 65 Euro to get a towel, robe, slippers and drinks. I came prepared having taken my robe and towel from my hotel room, and was shown to one of the 2 locker rooms.
Down the hallway is the shower room which is large and open and actually is at one end of the large (I mean huge) main meeting area which also holds the sauna area (4 different saunas + a steam room), big whirlpool which is at the center apex of this room, multiple seating areas including one that is designed to look like a bedouin tent with cushions on the floor, Large swinging hammock, large well-stocked bar (which is at the opposite end of the large room from the showers),flat screens on either side of the bar and a raised dining area. The large main room is very similar to the downstairs area of Artemis, just much larger and is the only indoor meeting area, whereas in Artemis there are 2.
Everything is very clean and it all complements the harem theme. At the far end of the main lounge area is a well equipped fitness room. Accessible from the main lounge and fitness room is the outer courtyard which surrounds the pool and has a lot of lounge chairs, and picnic table seating areas around it. Very attractive and inviting and fits in well with the main lounge area, saunas, and whirlpool as long as the weather outside is comfortable. Upstairs, there are about 20 play rooms, some with large beds, all accessible down a very long hallway, a pole dance bar, which is only open on weekends and party nights, a glory hole room, and at the very end of the hallway, a kino, which played german porn to no audience all evening, and a “casino” which had some arcade type games, a pool table, and internet station.

The large bar in the main lounge has a large selection of real liquors and makes cocktails which can be ordered from printed menus from waiters and waitresses. Food is also ordered from the menu and brought to you at either the high bar tables, the dining room style tables on the raised dining area, or the picnic tables out by the pool. The kitchen closes at midnite.
All in all a great facility, classy, clean with lots of things to do to pass the time away. Perfect, except…..

There were about 20 SP present and a similar amount of men. Everyone looked bored and dispirited. The women were a mixed ethnic range, mostly E. European, a few Germans, 3 African, all topless and wearing briefs/bikinis/ boy shorts. Mostly average looking. Only one was blonde gorgeous, but for reasons unbeknownst to me she spent most of the night crying or being consoled by her friends.

Because the couches and seating area are spread out around this large main room, it’s hard to get a good vantage point, or get a good idea about the service level of the SP. I sat at the bar for awhile next to a frizzy black-haired olive skinned woman, I think her name was Leila. She had a nice smile, but I passed to get more time to get the lay of the land. Walked around, passed by the saunas on my way to check out the Bedouin tent, passed by the African women who sat there all evening, and one of them, asked if I’d like company. She joined me in the Bedouin tent, and before 30 seconds had passed asked to go to a room. I said no let’s talk a little first, which she took to understand that she could ask me 10 seconds later again, “let’s go to a room.” When I demurred, explaining that I would first like to get to know her, she said,” you’re only trying to take advantage of me because of the color of my skin”. That was the end of our talk as I got up and walked away from her, but she tried to get me to pay her because we had talked and I had begun caressing her shoulder. I ignored her, but all night when I passed by her and her friends, I could hear them whispering about me.

I went back to the bar tables and began talking to 2 blonde Polish women. They were both friendly and complaining about a lack activity. Sandra was the more open of the 2 and we went to sit down on one of the couches. DFK, fondling, and we went up to the room. The session was OK, not memorable, but she was sweet and fun, and I was only looking for a good first pop. At this point I wasn’t sure whether or not to stick around or cut my losses. I decided to use the relaxation area and see if the mood or atmosphere changes.

Tried the saunas, whirlpool and outdoor pool, showered and went to lie down on the swinging hammock, which seemed to be the only place to get a decent vantage point of the entrance points and traffic. An older, skinny, plan-featured and short woman, who was probably the most unsexiest woman that I’ve seen in an FKK, had been eying me all night and took the opportunity to lie down across from me and swing the hammock to get my attention. Didn’t work. Nothing was changing in the air, more men were leaving, and it was time to decide my next step.

Tried to get the attention of the blonde bombshell, but she was sitting dejectedly at the bar, and a red-haired well proportioned woman with whom, I had traded smiles from across the room, but she seemed caught up in an intense conversation on the ledge of the whirlpool. Spotted Leila and went back to the bar where she was sitting, She’s of Turkish origin, but was born and grew up in Germany, lives in Cologne, and has never even visited Turkey. She spoke an excellent English and was smart and sassy, making self-deprecating comments about herself and some of her colleagues. I liked her and suggested that we go up to a room. Good session, again not memorable, but not because she didn’t put in a good effort, but because I just couldn’t get into the right mood in this place. After the session with Leila I realized that this was the best that I could do in Harem, so I dressed and left, paying for my drinks on the way out.

Summary: Great facility, in fact one of the nicest, better than Artemis because of the outside area and probably the best sauna area of any club, but loses points because of the poor location of the kino. IMO, it fits into the World and GT 1st class club for facility, but the SP lineup and general lack of energy in the air puts it way back in the minor leagues. Again, maybe it was just the night that I was there, but in speaking with some of the permanent fixtures, it seems that it’s the same on most nights, unless there’s a special event planned. This seems to be a problem, more of a simple economics issue for many of the FKKs. Without good demand, it’s hard to maintain a good supply, and without good supply it’s hard to maintain good demand. In my next report I'll write of an even more extreme case of this conundrum- Nanu.

Not a bad club, not a bad experience, just not a positive one and I won’t make an effort to go again unless stuck in the area and no other options available. Too bad.

[Big30]

Dear mongers,

I visited last April the FKK Badda-Bing in Hulten (Netherlands).

In conclusion, Badda-Bing is not worth visiting, unless you are leaving near the place or staying around. Yin Yang, Golden Time and others FKK are cheaper and offer a larger choice among girls, as well as better infrastructures.

Badda-Bing is I think even if you stay in the neighborhood just not worth visiting as you explained very well in your good and detailed report.

If you stay in the South of the Netherlands and want to visit a real Saunaclub, indeed the only advice is to drive 50-70 miles to the East and visit YY (the only real Sauna club in Holland) or visit Gt/PHG a few miles across the border between Holland and Germany.

But my reaction is because of another really minor issue.

The Netherlands although, part of Europa, is still independent and Hulten is still in the Netherlands, not in Germany!

Regards,

Big30

[José Beauvit]

Dear mongers,

I visited last April the FKK Badda-Bing in Hulten (Netherlands).

The club is set in a vast building looking like a hotel. It is much smaller inside than the other Dutch FKK, Yin Yang of Roermond, and less pleasant.

Although I arrived after the dinner, which is served up to 8 o’clock in the evening, the woman who welcomed me at the entrance agreed to seek in kitchen some food to sustain me, which I much appreciated.

After paying the 50 € at the entrance, I received my teddy bear fur, my sandals and my numbered bracelet. Then I went through a narrow corridor. On the right side of this corridor is the changing room, which is thus located near the reception, at the ground floor, before reaching the bar. The racks close with key, as in Yin Yang. Opposite the changing room, are the toilets.

The corridor ends up in a vast lounge bar, pleasant and not to smoky. Apparently clients are smoking less in this area than in Germany.

As is the food, the drinks are free, except champagne, of course, that the customers seem more inclined to order, than in other FKK. Food is second rate and far to reach the quality of that of Yin Yang.

Near the kitchen and the little dinning room is a shower room, the size of which is comparable with that of the FKK Golden Time.

There is a little court, surrounded by the building, where a jacuzzi is set. One could hardly use when I was there, because the temperature in evening was still fresh.

The rooms are upstairs, on the first floor of the establishment and seem numerous enough, for the girls are not so many to work at the same time in this club. This rooms, at least the two I was in with girls, are not equipped with showers and toilets, as the ones in Yin Yang. In every room there seems to be a mirror, however not always fixed at the right place, as well as a clock, so that the client and the girl know exactly how much time they spend together in room. The rooms seemed to me quite clean, as the other areas of the club

The day I visited the club, the girls were about twenty-five, as were the polar bears (clients). About half of the girls were Dutch. There were German and Belgian girls too, as well as two Polish and one Ukrainian, but all three leaving in Germany. Some of the girls were pretty, but most of them just of average standard. Thus I was rather disappointed, comparing to the number of nice chicks available, for instance, in the FKK Golden Time of Brüggen.

Dutch, English and German are mainly used by the girls in the club to communicate. However, most of the males seem regular Dutchmen wealthy customers. They are not always friendly with newcomers, especially foreigners. But one doesn’t go to this kind of club to become acquainted with the other customers, I guess.

All action is concentrated in the lounge bar, except sex, which occurs in the rooms upstairs: in Badda-bing, girls do not suck in public! There is no porn cinema, no garden. So, after spending approximately three hours in the lounge bar, I started to be bored: one can hardly imagine himself spending a whole day in Badda-Bing, as he would do in Yin Yang or in Golden time. Badda-Bing may be fine to drop in for a while, but not more.

Moreover the prices in this club for the girls are very high, compared to the ones in Yin Yang or in Golden Time. Most of the attractive girls charge 75 € for half an hour, including covered blow job. If you want to get bare back blow job, you will have to pay an additional cost of 25 €, only if the girl agrees to do so. The price for a whole hour with an attractive girl climbs to 125 €, even sometimes 150 €. These are indeed very high prices in Netherlands, taking in account you must first pay 50 € to be allowed to get inside the club.

I had to sessions, each of them of half an hour.

The first one was with a brunet Ukrainian girl called Kristina, thirty-two years old, very beautiful blue eyes, rather harmonious body, and was quite satisfactory. Kristina charged me with the reasonable price of 50 € and provided me a good service, except for the blow job, which she performed much too quickly.

My second session was with a Dutch girl called Simona, thirty-two years old too. Although I bargained at least ten minutes in the bar to convince her to go to a room for only 50 €, she clung to the price of 75 €. As she was quite attractive with her nice face and white skin, I eventually agreed to pay 75 €, which was a mistake. She provided me a poor service and was not worth the money at all. Only her hand job in the end was acceptable. I do not recommend this girl at all, of course.

In conclusion, Badda-Bing is not worth visiting, unless you are leaving near the place or staying around. Yin Yang, Golden Time and others FKK are cheaper and offer a larger choice among girls, as well as better infrastructures.

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