Other FKK Clubs

[Optimist]

Theories as to why Hamburg is such a rip off. I have a totally unscientific idea. Hamburg was one of the most important Hanseatic cities and had huge links especially with London. Hamburg seems to be the German city most like England, and the English used to be past masters at ripping off foreigners, so maybe it's something in the cultural history. Hamburg and London are the only cities where I have been scammed with the threat of violence.

[The Cane]

Wonder which Hamburg club is more for locals? Hamburg is actually 3rd most touristic city in De behind Berlin and Munich.

Hamburg is also Germany's second largest city, and tourism is growing. I bet the locals favor FKK Harmony as it is the farthest away from the central city LOL!

[PussyLiccker]

The desk telling what the standard pricing is per half HR, and if kissing is important, that's where the upselling show's it's ugly head in places where pricing is loose, or we call them "make their own pricing. ".

If that type of stuff is most prevalent, I doubt that Babylon is a local club for regulars. I believe there is typically in different parts, locals tend to go for short distanced more convenience options, and ones they avoid. Wonder which Hamburg club is more for locals?

Was there ever a time when standards were tight? Why is the standard so loose? Hamburg is actually 3rd most touristic city in De behind Berlin and Munich. What is the clientele demographics like? Are lot of them nearby Scandinavians?

[Hessen Bub]

I was not impressed at all by the prices been thrown out there. Nearly all of them wanted at least E100 per half hour to include BBJ instead of CBJ and kissing also.

That's the reason why Babylon is off my list and not a go to club.

HB.

[Sirioja]

For those who want to know a bit what is Globe, video on their website, but no more inside hot swimming pool. That was my best brothels swimming pool. Never saw porn shows there, but public BBBJ. Champagne for brunch before 5 pm on Sunday.

[The Cane]

I talked toFKK Artemis is still my favorite, whilst E80 entrance most girls are fine with E60 half hour with BBJ as standard.

Yes, but at Artemis if you do BBBJ / CIM (which is what you inquired about at this club) in a 30 minute session, now you're at 110 euros and not 60. The gap is now 40 euros difference between what you were quoted at FKK Babylon Hamburg and what you would pay at Artemis for the same kind of services. Now, I was easily able to negotiate these kinds of gaps in prices down to what I would pay in the Hessen clubs. The difference could very well have been that I am an hour-long man versus a 30 minute man. That makes a huge difference to a lot of the girls (in virtually all clubs I think) in terms of what they are willing to do, including on pricing. If you're only going to pay for a 30 minute session, which seems to be what you were inquiring about, then they are going to be less willing to budge. I do hour-long sessions. This needs to be emphasized as it makes a difference in the negotiations.

[Mac75]

On Tuesday 21 February I decided to pay a visit to FKK Babylon (Hamburg). This was my first time in this club. I have however been to FKK Artemis (Berlin) many times and some FKKs in Frankfurt. Entry fee was E65, the guy at the reception said for girls it is E60 for half hour with CFS & CBJ, everything after that has to be negotiated. Firstly I'd like to say I thought the standard of the facilities is very good. Pool, Sauna, Restaurant & Bar all very nice in my opinion. The club was quiet throughout the whole evening with maybe 20 girls. I talked to nearly all the girls there at some point for a few minutes or more at a time. Whilst most were pretty and polite I was not impressed at all by the prices been thrown out there. Nearly all of them wanted at least E100 per half hour to include BBJ instead of CBJ and kissing also. I asked would they include CIM aswell in that E100 to make it comparable with the Frankfurt clubs but all of them said CIM was E50 extra and refused to budge on that, so you would be looking at E150 all in! This is Hamburg not Frankfurt was the typical remark by the girls! In the end I only did one session, Maria from Albania, a petite blond haired girl with large natural breasts. I liked her attitude when I talked to her and she was fine with E80 for the session, E60 + E20 for BBJ. She kissed also, and no talk of that been extra. I think the whole paying extra for kissing is nonsense. Either a girl wants to do it with you or she doesn't. It was a nice enjoyable session. In summary I only visited this club as I was in Hamburg anyway, but I certainly wouldn't return purely for mongering. There is certainly much better options for mongering in other parts of Germany. FKK Artemis is still my favorite, whilst E80 entrance most girls are fine with E60 half hour with BBJ as standard.

[Pistons]

What about Ocean? I want to give a try to this club?

Walk from Düsseldorf-Rath S-bahn station. About 17 minutes through Wahlerstraße. Then again, why not rent a car?

[ExpatLover]

Yes, it is S28.

And the train from Cologne to Samya (stop at Michaelshoven) is U16. Look for the underground U-Bahn station next to the Cologne, not the S-Bahn at the Hbf. (Trains to Bernd's and Babylon, however, leave from the S-Bahn track at the northern end of the Hbf.)

To Cane: Bernd's, Babylon, Dolce Vita and Acapulco Gold are also easily accessible by train followed by (taxi, bus or walk). I do not drive and I have been frequenting these clubs.

None of these clubs are 'dirty and dumpy', except for the locker rooms of some of them. But they are all small compared to the big ones in Hessen.

What about Ocean? I want to give a try to this club?

[SvenFKK]

Parking is free on the streets in Germany. Just don't park anywhere it says no parking. Some secluded hotels like Tryp have no parking near it so you have to pay around 10 euro per night.

It is definitely not free everywhere. Sometimes it is only for locals with a permit and / or "nur mit Parkschein", meaning you have to buy a ticket for a certain amount of time (there might be a maximum) and display it behind the windscreen. Sometimes (usually), this is only for certain days / hours.

[TankTank123]

There is an S-bahn line (S28 or something similar?) that has a stop Kaarst-Ikea, only minutes walk from LR.

Similar situation for Samya in Koeln as well. An S-bahn will bring you just a few minutes walk away from the club.

Yes, it is S28.

And the train from Cologne to Samya (stop at Michaelshoven) is U16. Look for the underground U-Bahn station next to the Cologne, not the S-Bahn at the Hbf. (Trains to Bernd's and Babylon, however, leave from the S-Bahn track at the northern end of the Hbf.)

To Cane: Bernd's, Babylon, Dolce Vita and Acapulco Gold are also easily accessible by train followed by (taxi, bus or walk). I do not drive and I have been frequenting these clubs.

None of these clubs are 'dirty and dumpy', except for the locker rooms of some of them. But they are all small compared to the big ones in Hessen.

[Ortos]

I hope to fully explore the NRW region on a future trip. Seems like in NRW you must have a car to get around to all of the clubs. Either that, or pay expensive taxis. When renting a car, then I worry about having to pay expensive nightly parking fees at a hotel, or showing up at a club that has barely any parking for cars at akk. Any advice on this and the best way to "work" Dusseldorf and Koln? Is taking the train around a possibility like it is in the Frankfurt metro area?

LR is dead easy to reach by S-bahn from DD-Hbf. There is an S-bahn line (S28 or something similar?) that has a stop Kaarst-Ikea, only minutes walk from LR. I always found LR a very positive experience with good to above-average line-ups. So, whilst driving a car might give you more flexibility, not having a car is no "game-changer" when it comes to LR.

Similar situation for Samya in Koeln as well. An S-bahn will bring you just a few minutes walk away from the club.

[Sirioja]

Why 'except at Oceans'? I've been offered CIM there for just 20 e from one girl and 30 by another. But I'm guessing some girls just haven't been informed. Which makes me think the club itself doesnt have a policy on cim. But girls make up their own prices... then again, I never ask for it myself as it is not my thing... but a few girls seems to have a kink for cim...

For my Oceans visits a while ago, some girls say 50 for CIM and 100 for anal, Hessen rates, not NRW rates. Maybe times and business changed at Oceans.

[Pistons]

In NRW, 1 hour is 80 at H7, or Aca Gold, or Aca, and 100 in others. Except at Oceans, CIM is 25 and anal 50. For 250, You can have 2 hours with anal. In Switzerland, only 1 standard hour for this rate, no anal, but often great GFE experience.

Why 'except at Oceans'? I've been offered CIM there for just 20 e from one girl and 30 by another. But I'm guessing some girls just haven't been informed. Which makes me think the club itself doesnt have a policy on cim. But girls make up their own prices... then again, I never ask for it myself as it is not my thing... but a few girls seems to have a kink for cim...

[Derk]

Parking is free on the streets in Germany. Just don't park anywhere it says no parking. Some secluded hotels like Tryp have no parking near it so you have to pay around 10 euro per night.

As for hotel place yourself in Dusseldorf near one of the highways. 20 minutes to Mondial and 30 minutes to Samya in Koln, 15-25 minutes to DUSS area clubs like LR, ACA, Oceans.

Many German cities now demand parking is paid at news stands (no signs stating this within the city). The signs I'm told are at city borders.

As you enter. I learned this the hard way once in Krefeld. No signs anywhere so I parked. Came back less than an hour later and found a parking attendant for the city had written me a ticket for parking without permit. (no signs that permits are needed).

I asked the attendant why and was given the excuse they no longer post signs within the city it's up to the drivers to know this and the city posts signs at the city limits. So to be safe sometimes it's best to bite the bullet and do the pay for parking. Germany.

Is not exactly like the US.

This new parking regulation is not new in fact it's been enforced this way for years for the entire city of Vienna Austria (a huge city).