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  1. #2395

    New FKK in Frankfurt: FKK Mainhatten trip report

    Yesterday I took one for the team and attended the Grand Opening of FKK Manhattan.

    Location: Industrial area outside Frankfurt. Generally isolated.
    No nearby public transit observed.

    I recommend you take a taxi and get his business card, as I did not see any around the building. I drove and if not for my GPS would have had a problem finding it.

    Ambience: Brand-new facility. However, it is like a maze when moving through the facility. Lots of separate areas that seem isolated from one another. Outdoor area includes a nice pool and refreshment bar with some food available. Inside dining area was small but adequate with a decent food selection.

    Beer is Free and on tap.

    Rooms were clean and functional. No pillows and limited to zero ventilation.

    Girl / Guy ratio: I did not take a head count, but it seemed like at least 3-guys per girl.

    Clients and girls: Seemed like mostly non-Germans. Lots of young guys (Turkish, etc.). Ninety percent (90%) of the girls were Romanians around 20-25 years old. Also a few older Dominicans and one Brazilian MILF.

    My thoughts: It was an amusing visit and interesting to watch the stuff they had lined up for the Grand Opening such as: "Punk-Rock Elvis on Stilts" he was about 15 meters tall; A Transvestite "Party Announcer" who announced the raffles and periodic upstairs "Gang Bangs"; Lots of Pole dancers from Romania.

    However, as much as I enjoyed the free beer and decent fried chicken, the place was not as erotic or relaxing as Oase or even Palace. It seemed as if the girls present were just checking the place for future possibilities. I also have the impression there may be some regulars that are recent imports from Romania and from the looks on their face not really excited about the job.

    It also appeared that for many guys it was a “First Visit” to an FKK and they were somehow convinced to drop by for the Grand Opening.

    Incidentally, I went with two girls: First a Romanian who had limited talents. Second, the MILF from Brazil who gave an OK massage but was generally not impressive.

  2. #2394

    German speaking only clubs: myth or reality?

    Quote Originally Posted by Creature2
    Villa Arabella (Entry not granted for the reason of not speaking German)
    I recently visited club Arabella, where I had a long conversation in English in the hall with one of the girls (Julia), and we didn't get any nasty looking. It's otherwise true that Barbara, the Thekenfrau, will not try any effort to speak in any language other than German, and you shouldn't try to force her either. Walk to the counter, make an effort to greet her in German, read the board with the current offer over the counter (a list of entries in the "xx X yy€" form, pretty straightforward), point the finger at your choice, don't ask questions and keep your money at the ready. That should do the trick. Than turn your back and follow the "Umkleide" signal down the stairs, get changed, get back in hall, find a girl who speaks English and ask her any further question you might have. It's otherwise true that the clientele is mostly German, and so not that many girl are fluent in English. You should definitely expect a deny entry, and no matter how well you speak German, only if you are Muslim in appearance (not the management nor the girls welcome the Turkish clientele).

    I entered the club at noon, and there where 9 girls. I was told more were due to arrive, but I couldn't witness any new arrival during my stay. The club was buzzing with local customers, a good sign (became quieter at midafternoon). The current offer was: 1x40, 2x55, 3x65. I choose the 3x variation and didn't regret, actually I think this was excellent value for money. I agree with Creature2 that at those prices, those low cost clubs can be an appealing alternative to Partytreffs, as far as the financial and service quality aspect is concerned (that is, if you're not that interested in open/group sex), unless you can devote a whole day to the visit. I asked Barbara if the current price offer was normal or just a special time limited offer. She couldn't give me a clear answer, and advised me to call before visiting to ask the current prices. I noticed that the boards, which I had seen on my previous visit, listing the prices for extras had disappeared. I had a session with Julia (a petite german), and two bulgarians (the chatty and sparkling Gaby, and the tall Sissy), all unrushed (I actually can't tell you how long are the session expected to last, as all the girls where willing to stay and chat in the room at the end of the proceedings). All of the girls provided DFK free of charge (it was quoted 5€ on my previous visit), BBBJ, fingering. Gaby and Sissy asked 30€ for BB (cum inside), while this was not an option with Julia. All of the sessions were procedeed by a fondling, kissing and blowing preamble on the couches (for the nostalgics, those are still the original RTC couches). As usual, food was limited to soup, bread rolls, and cookies. Nothing fancy, but more than enough to keep you from starving even if you plan a long stay. It's good that any payment is made at the counter (even for extras), so any dispute which might possibly arise would be immediately settled with the management (that means virtually stunt free service). There's a glass jar on the counter, filled with tightly wrapped sets of folded bancknotes. The girl will pick-up her reward directly from the jar.

    Mausi's (Not speaking German, do not intend to try)
    This might be a wise decision, while lack of German would prevent you from effective conversing with a significant part of girls. But I like to point out that lack of german is not the basis for a deny entry. While Mausi is indeed pretty xenofobic, there's a whole range of nationalities which are noneteless wellcome in the club. Quite surprisingly (considering USA contribution to the defeat of the Nazis) this especially applies to North Americans guests (those who doubt it, have a close look at Mausi website, and you'll find listed an address in Denver. Furthermore, whoever had a chance to visit the photo gallery in the old web site, might remember the star and stripes being granted the same dignity as the german flag). On the other hand, no chance if your appearance is Mediterranean/East European (once more, no matter how well you speak german). Pay also attention, even if you're fluent with the language of some of the east european service providers (Russian/Polish/Czech/Romanian ...), stricktly to refrain from using it in the common room, or you'll immediatley get a nasty looking from Mausi, possibly culminating in an Hausverbot.

    While I have no prejudices toward any ethnic group, I tend to favour german oriented clubs for several (somewhat higly subjective) reasons:

    - real FKK (though at Mausi's, some girls tend to stay wrapped from top to toe in towels; in winter time this might have something to to with savings on the heating expenses);
    - action can normally start right on the couches (exhibitionists be aware though, nobody will pay any attention);
    - DFK can generally be taken for granted (not so in the Turkish oriented clubs);
    - girls are always easy to approach. Even if the girl of your choiche is engaged with a customer, they will soon enough disappear to a room. Otherwise, Turkish circles can monopolize the girls for hours on end. Several times I found myself close to the club closing time with an unused prepaid card, while the girls I had choosen had always been unapproachable;
    - music background selection;
    - drinks are more often than not self-service;
    - last but not least, toilet conditions.

  3. #2393

    Laluna wannabes

    Quote Originally Posted by Cordelia Shiatsu
    Creature2 - Ambrosia is 20E entry and 40E for 20 minutes (basic service). From reports on German forum it seems that it is like LaLuna in facilities and service, (but with less attractive workers?)
    I think basic service should presently be 25€ (special opening offer). Bareback service is quoted at 60€/20', 90€/30'. Only few girls in the line-up, and allegedly not that attractive either.

  4. #2392

    keep it under your hat

    Quote Originally Posted by Creature2
    She says they have rules in this house and it is not that good to talk about the other places, inside Penelope, and especially no talk with the girls on those subjects and the competitor clubs. I don’t want to get involve, myself, to any trouble, so I don’t return to this subject again, with her.
    No surprise they were uncomfortable with that kind of question, especially while competitor clubs in Ruhrgebiet are bursting in flames (see the arson at Club Extasia at the end of June).

  5. #2391
    Creature2 - Ambrosia is 20E entry and 40E for 20 minutes (basic service). From reports on German forum it seems that it is like LaLuna in facilities and service, (but with less attractive workers?)

  6. #2390

    Thank you

    @ Big30, Tjhoo, Varenne, Cordelia Shiatsu,

    Thank you for your reply on low-cost clubs. That Club Neby would be on my radar, when in the area at the end of July. If it any good, I will post the first report on that.

  7. #2389

    FKK Penelope shithole

    day 4

    i had three days in nrw with lots of fun, sex and a sore cock; http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...&postcount=502

    this was my fourth and last day and i had a flight in the early evening. i had a few options; either to go to fkk amnesia or to visit penelope in essen. of course, essen was closer to dusseldorf airport compared to amnesia which is located in castrop rauxel.

    there was a stau in german autobahn, so i arrived a bit late than i supposed to be there. the club opened at noon time and i arrived there at 1 pm sharp. this would let me only two hours in this small club. i buzzed in. from the entrance and beside the theke, you can view the main lounge and most of the contact area. there were only two customers and it is supposed to be two girls at the moment (according to the thekefrau), but at first sight, i saw only one of them, a girl from turkey which is quite attractive on the looks department.

    http://www.clubpenelope.de/

    thekefrau asked if i would walk in or not, i decided to stay there, because my other option is going to castrop rauxel to fkk amnesia but i could spend only one hour there (for 19 euro, drink excluded) in order to be able to catch my flight. here, in penelope, i could spend two hours and less stress to drive fast to catch the flight back home. so, i decided to try penelope. i read many good things about the line-up, and this could be a preview of penelope for me, another discovery. i plan to visit this place in late july, for a longer stay, and i will see the line-up in the evening time.

    in penelope, the entrence price is 20 euro during weekdays and 30 euro during weekends, and this is only in the morning time. and in the evenings, the entrance is raised to 35 euro. it is supposed to be some buffet in the evening but i didn’t see any of them, since i stayed only two hours in the afternoon. i had only some coffee and few cookies. compared to big clubs, there is nothing to justify this high entry price apart from the girls, which is supposed to be nice.

    penelope should be also a part of that famous former red carpet, but now, it is supposed to be under the hands of a mob. i asked to thekefrau, whether there was a link, once upon a time, with belami, salome, villa venus and penelope. but i get she is not that comfortable about my interrogation, neither about the history, nor about now and then of this place. she says they have rules in this house and it is not that good to talk about the other places, inside penelope, and especially no talk with the girls on those subjects and the competitor clubs. i don’t want to get involve, myself, to any trouble, so i don’t return to this subject again, with her.

    my curiosity is because of the nostalgia of ancient brothels, which raise my expectation of erotism. maybe this is influenced by some classical porn movies (with hairy pussies all around) that i prefer to view instead of the modern age ones private movies (with shaved pussies, lovely thin blonds). it was also nice to sit in a couch of penelope and to check the surrounding area, the red ancient brothel decoration, that classical brothel atmosphere is priceless for me. by the way, they have still that dirty red carpet on the floor, but they removed the fabric couches and switched to the leather ones.

    in this time of the day, there was not much girls, but there is some customer ringing and getting in. so, thekefrau sent a girl to the girls dormitory to wake a few girls, because there are more customers now. some of the girls (mostly turkish, bulgaro-turks and romano-turks girls) sleep there, on the other hands, the other girls such as polish, russian, romanian who lives nearby comes later. there should be more than 40 nice girls in the peak time, maybe after 8 pm.

    this place is real funny, i had lots of fun to watch the sleepy girls coming out their dormitory with half closed eyes, without make-up and without clothes but only a towel. i had some funny conversation with girls and also thekefrau was also fun to chat with, apart being too serious about business. i observed that the big majority of the customers were local turkish guys.

    the place is a shithole; because the lockers downstairs and the showers are very dirty, stinky and old, worn-out pieces of shit. the rooms are also worn out but cleaner than the showers and toilets. the main lounge was ok on the cleanliness department and there were plenty of clean towel, all available during my whole stay. the design of the rooms and the display of the towels reminds me of sauna grimberg in gelsenkirchen.

    when i first changed my clothes, i saw a sign that the customer should keep their valuable in the safe deposit, so i did it this way, this is also more practical to pay directly to the girl, here. in order to use the safe, they changed my locker key, but later, i found that this key is not operating the big lockers downstairs, again real funny.
    since i stayed more or less two hours, till 3 pm, i didn’t see much girls to my liking. i was thinking to left the place without any sessions. maybe, may they refund some of the entry price? neee, i don’t think so. there were only two chubby bulgarian girls which nobody is taking away. but on the other hand, nice turkish girls was always busy and the local punters were always fast to take the girls to the room. as fast as a new nice girl enters the lounge, she has been taking immediately by a punter and went to a room. this didn’t let me the opportunity to observe and then approach my best option for the day. later i saw a new girl entered to the club, she has a different attitude and she has with some persona,. she was fast to change into her work dress and do the make-up. she was a very attractive, tall girl, with fake blond short cutted hair. but again, a local punter (they probably knows which girls are good to go with) take her so fast, to a room. i went to theke frau and asked her, where she comes from. her name is isabella and she comes from romania. bulls-eye! i asked without hope, whether she speaks english. thekefrau answered me isabella speaks so many languages, including english. i was convinced and waited her. i knew this won’t take too long because the sessions here are only 20 min, and some of the local punters were faster than that. she returns soon in the lounge area, she went to the bar, i was sitting in a couch and i smiled her, she smiled back to me. meanwhile, i saw another punter also readying himself to approach her. but hey, this is not a flatrate or partytreff, we are not supposed to challenge for girls. this should be a relax atmosphere, where we sit back and wait for the best options. i felt if i wait that long now, either i will loose the opportunity to get her, either i will miss my flight. so, i stand up, went to the bar (before the other punter did), invite her to one of the couch to have some more conversation. actually, she didn’t expect that invitation as the others always drag her directly to the room.

    isabella

    she speak a decent english, spanish and italian, wow, i am impressed, a smart girl in this shithole. after some of short conversation, she asked whether i would interested in going to the rooms. she is not used to kill much time in the lounge, she prefers the action. i replied i didn’t see yet the rooms, maybe she can guide me to one of them, then i followed her. in the room, when she was naked, i can see that her body is beautiful enough. i told her, beforehand, that i am not that quick like the local guys and i had too many sex the day before and i can’t finish in 20 min. she says; “no problem, if you don’t finish, i make you some more blowjob and handjob”. so, we began to get some serious action. she was good at giving head, she has nice bbbj skills, but it was a bit short/the total session should be short). later she put a condom on me, and start to ride me, but she was uncomfortable in this position, then i turned into mish. this is also not that comfy for me, so we began a fast doggy style. wow, this is really a fast and wild one, i felt i am tired and stopped. she checked the condom and saw i didn’t finished. she try to slip away the condom but i stop her and say i want to do one last round, that i felt i can finish. and i started to shag her in spoon, really fast, which i concentrated and reached into climax inside that romanian pussy. isabella, the lovely romanian girl, what did you do to me? after all those 4 days, 12 sessions and 8 cum, i can hardly believe that i could cum in twenty minutes, but i did my ninth orgasm, this was a real fast fuck. as an fkk comrade said earlier, “god bless those romanian girls”.

    after the session, i paid her 25 euro and went ownstairs to shower and change where i get that i should change again the locker key. (in some previous reports, they says the price is 25 euro/20 min, with covered blow job, and you should pay a 10 euro extra for bareback blowjob. maybe this is history. now, i saw everywhere in the club, a german notice, saying 25 euro brings you a blowjob without condom and sex with condom). after changed the key and then changed my clothes, i return to the bar and returned my key to thekefrau. she says i am late for my flight. i hope there is no stau in this afternoon of saturday. before leaving, i asked if i return another day, after 6 pm, can i see some russian and polish girls, here. she says that polish girls already arrived and showed me a marvelous blond girl, that blondinka stood up and opened the main gate for me. ouch, i wish i could stay some more couple of hours. probably, i miss the real fun part of penelope, by leaving that early. but anyway, this was a preview for my next visit, to penelope, in late july.

    ps: i shouldn't had speed that much in the autobahn, the roads were almost empty in midday. when i get dusseldorf airport terminal, to check-in and then boarding my plane, i saw lots of beautiful blond german girls. either this is frankfurt or dusseldorf, when leaving, after those handful beautiful sessions, i am always more hornier than, when arriving to germany. is this just me, or is this a common pain of a punter who had to leave this lovely country?

  8. #2388
    Quote Originally Posted by Big30
    I read on the HP that at the day of opening entrance will be 40 Euro.

    @Vitrea: The site is available also in the English language !
    http://www.fkk-mainhattan.de/?menue=home_weiter

    B30

    Thank you. I Google translated it from the ladies.de site thinking that I am being helpful....not realizing that it is the same info on their website. Oops.

  9. #2387
    Quote Originally Posted by Creature2

    Are there any other small clubs in this area, that I might sample?
    Connaisseurs advice needed?
    No that is about it, with the addition of Neby (see below).
    Freude, although ex-RTC is not a typical low cost FKK currently.

    B30

  10. #2386
    Creature2 -

    New club just opened with so far no reports on german forums -

    Club Ambrosia Ruhrstraße 10 45701 Herten-Westerholt (near Gelsenkirchen). No idea of prices.

    http://www.club-ambrosia.de/
    http://passion-angel.de/

  11. #2385

    low-cost clubs

    Quote Originally Posted by Creature2
    What is Club Neby? Former Salome?
    No, it's a different club:

    Club Neby
    Martener Straße 539
    44379 Dortmund
    Tel: 0173 24 66 100
    Web: http://www.neby.de

    If you like turkish oriented clubs, you could also try Fkk Club Cleopatra-Arena in Gelsenkirchen.

  12. #2384
    Quote Originally Posted by Hessen Bub
    Advertisement on ladies.de doesn't show any signs off delays. Think they will open on Thursday. 10am.

    HB
    The advertisement shows nothing of the club. If they truely plan on opening in 3 days, you'd think they'd have some photo's of the club to entice people into visiting.

    Someone also pointed out that with the world soccer going on, now wouldn't be the best time to try opening a new club.

  13. #2383

    Re: Low cost

    Hello!

    Club Neby is getting a lot of attention and good reviews at Freiercafe.

    I Köln the guys who runs Samya has opened a lowcost club Mondial. Just like Samya the service level is high and the girls are over average. Some of the girls are going back and forth between Samya and Mondial.

    T

  14. #2382

    Low-costs

    http://web.archive.org/web/200604230...de/index2.html

    According this web archive map, there were some more clubs, which doesn't exist any more?

    FKK Total is emerged by Freude, obviously.
    What is Club Neby? Former Salome?
    FKK Syburg is history, at the moment, I guess...

  15. #2381

    Am I missing something ?

    I am in search of low-cost clubs, or in other words, former Rot Tappiche to visit in Germany;

    I have already done FKK F40 (Dietzenbch)
    F39 Freude (Bochum)
    Sauna Grimberg (Gelsenkirchen)
    Villa Venus (Duisburg)
    Bel Ami (Dortmund)
    Penelope (Essen)
    Salome (Riemke)

    In the list;
    Villa Arabella (Entry not granted for the reason of not speaking German)
    Villa Romantika (Couldn't locate the place at last my attempt, will try again later)
    Villa Erotika (Next time)
    Mausi's (Not speaking German, do not intend to try)

    Are there any other small clubs in this area, that I might sample?
    Connaisseurs advice needed?

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