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[Bundok]

Black Sheep,

I totally understand. And I realize that others may not like the strip club set-up for other reasons.

But I have read of other places in Mexico, tourist resorts like Cancun or Cabo San Lucas, where beer and other prices are indeed very high. Basically rip-offs. I just wanted to clarify for those who've never been to Oaxaca or its SCs, that the SCs there are at Oaxacan price levels. After all, as I mentioned in my report, out of all the times I've gone to the SCs, only once have I spotted another gringo in the place.

Anyways, to reiterate, except for La Trampa: There is no cover; beers are 30-35 Pesos, though it's cheaper and wiser to get a pail (cubeta) of 6 beeers; dancer beers are 50 Pesos (unless the dancer asks for a real beer, which is uncommon); privados are 100 Pesos; sexo is 500 Pesos or US $43, and even that is negotiable.. Compare that with a recent quote for a simple BJ in Cabo San Lucas for US $250!

As I noted, the only problem is that you need to go to the right club and you need to find the right dancer. Though, if you go to the clubs I mentioned in my report, sexo isn't really that hard to find. And, actually, the whole aspect of not knowing what to expect can also be sorta fun. At Baraimas, a cute, young, gorditita snuggled up to me asking for drinks. I accepted, and for at least an hour and a half, we watched the girls dancing on stage, we chatted, we took the stage ourselves to dance, and all the while when seated at our table, she would stroke my cock through my pants. I dunno, there was something very civilized about that, where we were all clothed in the club, and yet I had this hot girl I had just met cuddling up to me, drinking, smoking, chatting, and caressing my cock ceaselessly as if she were my lover for what seemed like forever.

I got a privado with her, and we returned to our table. I finally asked her, "Can't we do something back there?" She said yes, but she would have preferred to go to my hotel, but that wasn't possible. So, sometime later, after her getting my member rock hard again, I bought 2 privados, during which I convinced her to give me a BBHJ. She complied and at no extra charge! It was like a favor! Afterwards, she told me to met back at the table. When I got there, I told her, "Man, it landed all on my stomach!" She giggled, and said, "Hehe! Go wipe up in the bathrooms! Here, take these napkins!" So, in all, it was a really fun evening, with a cute, engaging girl.

That's happened to me before in Oaxaca, though better. But it is uncommon--it's best to ask the dancer during the first privado what is possible.

Ay, sorry for the lengthy reminiscing... Baraimas is on the road to Tule, near the Monumento Juárez, I believe.

And BTW, I assumed by "centro nocturno" you meant "strip club." But, of coure, the two are not synonymous. Right? There are strip clubs where dancers take the stage the entire time, and there are clubs/bars where protitutes hang out.

Still kinda surprised you or PeterPaul haven't checked out the brothels yet! No, I don't live in Mexico, and since I have only several weeks a year when I'm in Oaxaca, I prefer to spend long evenings at the strip clubs. But I still am interested in the brothels I've heard about from friends and taxi drivers. Neither of you are interested in taking one for the team?

[Black Sheep]

Bundok,

Suffer from artillery ear, hence aversion to loud music. Not much of a drinker, hence low tolerance for beer prices. Where is club you mention, Baraimos (just for info)? Do you reside in Mex?

[Bundok]

Clubes Nocturnos (nightclubs, occasionally spelled correctly) are an option if one enjoys loud music and expensive beer.

See my report below for info on Oaxacan strip clubs, which I love.

In any case, the above is misleading. They are strip clubs, so, yes, music is played at them. Yet, unlike nude SCs in the States, dancers make most of their money by conversing with guys over drinks. In fact, that is why most guys in Oaxaca go to the clubs--to chat with girls and dance. The volume of the music is not an issue if you want to do that, unless you have hearing problems. Each time I went this summer, I conversed with girls at the clubs basically non-stop for 2-3 hours. Only once, at Baraimas, was the music loud enough that we had to talk right into each other's ears; otherwise, conversing and flirting at the SCs is one of the reasons I love them. Funnily enough, that conversation at Baraimas was the most interesting I've ever had in Mexico--the girl was really smart, knowlegable, and super hot.

As for beer prices--they cost 30-35 pesos. That's hardly expensive. (At La Trampa, yes, I'd say the beers are expensive, though I forgot how much they were.)

[Gaolei]

It is difficult for the casual Gringo visitor with no language skills to find any action in Leon, but night clubs often offer just what your looking for. In Flamingos club, I was propositioned within the first hour. The first offer was for 1000 pesos, but when I looked astonished it dropped to 700 without any bargaining. I was also told getting into the Holiday Inn would be no hassle.

I have been told there are many dance clubs that are not night clubs in Leon, where girls can be had for 300 pesos. You can go in, spot the girl you want, and take her away. There is no muss, no fuss, no buying drinks. I cannot find one of these places on my own, so it's night clubs.

If you look in the phone book you will find night clubs listed under the title Centros Nocturnos not the other listings mentioned.

[Black Sheep]

Duesy 45,

Perhaps I'm blind, or my trips to Centro Historico occur to early in day, but I rarely observe SWs in Centro.

My experiences usually involve Salones de Masajes, and escort svcs. The former chg 250 per 1/2 hr/500 per hr. One escort svc chgs 800 per hr, another which I haven't tried, 1000 per hr.

Clubes Nocturnos (nightclubs, occasionally spelled correctly) are an option if one enjoys loud music and expensive beer.

Info from PeterPaul quite valid; let me know if you need more detailed info, and I'll try to remember to bring my notes on phone numbers and addresses.

[Gaolei]

I went to a strip club in Leon named Tapatio. Great show! A man selected from the audience is handcuffed to the pole and blindfolded. They pull down his pants and a huge fat girl comes out and starts rubbng against him. She takes off everything and continues rubbing. Then a cute girl comes out and takes off the blindfold and he looks at her with a smile, then the fat one comes our from behind him. Talk about a priceless expression!

After the show one of the better built babes sits next to me and asks if I want to screw her, I said maybe, and she says 3000 Pesos (about 300USD). She says she is real good and I say nobody is that good. I am sure there are cheaper ones available, and I did see some walk out with guys.

[PeterPaul]

Hi Duesy:

I hope this helps. In Oaxaca, there are NO streetwalkers in the Zocalo, much less young ones. Dont make a bad mistake hitting on the wrong girl. The SWs I've seen (and Ive been around town) are located in the streets south of the Zocalo near the 20 de noviembre market. They are mostly older Indian women. I feel they are great and the real flavor of the land, but if thats not your cup of tea, avoid.

Now, for the young ones. Last time I traveled, I heard they hang out inside very small beer taverns (cervecerías) in streets close to the old bus central, such as Valentin Trujano. I hear you go, have a beer, barfine them out of the place and take them to hot sheet hotels close by. Havent tried, but Ive seen a couple and they look good to me. Young Indian women.

Another option is not exactly paid sex. There are local girls (and boys) that hang out in the Zocalo that flirt and connect with single foreigners (men and women alike). They are nicknamed "gabacheras" (or gabacheros), they are college student age and as far as I know you cannot make a direct "transaction" with them. Just follow the game and play it as if you are hitting on someone. Non-cash presents, I believe, are the rule. Havent tried this either.

The third option is night clubs, strip joints, etc. There is some local talent to exploit I hear. I dont do these either.

Ive heard first-hand accounts of these 3 options, no personal experience.

PP

[Duesy45]

Black Sheep,

I recently spent a week in Oaxaca. It appeared to be a mongers paradise. I noticed a lot of SW's around the zocalo and neighboring streets. Most were about average looking. Some were young and others appeared to much older (way too old). Was unable to sample any of the goods because I had my SO with me.

Out of curiosity- what is the general price range for SW's in Oaxaca? I hope to get back there in the spring and will try my hand at 'entertaining' some of the local chicas.

Cheers,

Duesy

[Duesy45]

San Luis Potosi

I recently spent about 10 days in SLP. Was not able to do any mongering as my SO was with me. However, eyes wide open- looking, looking, looking. On Sarabia about two blocks north of Los Bravos there were a couple of bars. I noticed a number of chicas outside on the street. They obviously were looking for companionship. Most of them were young and not too bad looking. Since I prefer thinner women they only graded out at about a 6-7.

A most unusual thing happened late one afternoon. We were sitting on some benches around the Plaza de Armas and a woman (old and rather ugly- boo!) approached us. She asked me (en espanol) if we were interested in a threesome. I laughed and said ‘no thanks’. She then walked over to my SO and asked her if she was interested in having sex with her. My SO, not understanding any espanol, asked me what she said. I said I wasn’t sure and then told the lady to go away. She kept commenting that she really liked my SO’s blue eyes.

One morning as we were returning to our hotel I saw one of the hottest chicas I have ever seen. It was very apparent that she had spent the night at the hotel conducting business. This gal was about 5’10, beautiful face and an absolute hard body. Thin but nicely built with an amazing looking rack. The outfit she was wearing did not leave much to the imagination. Her skirt was so short you could almost count hairs (if there were any) and it was so tight you could see the muscles in her butt. Oh well, another opportunity missed.

In conclusion, if you are in SLP want to go mongering I believe there is an abundance of nice P4P chicas and they shouldn’t be too hard to find.

Happy hunting,

Duesy

[Gaolei]

Leon Mexico? Anyone been there? Anything to do there?

[Black Sheep]

Oaxaca, Oax.

Article in today's NOTICIAS, says that about 1,100 women exercise prostitution in the city and surrounding towns. Of those, only about 300 atre under sanitary control.

The rest are concentrated mainly in the municipios of Sta. Lucia del Camino, Sta. Cruz Xoxocotlan and S. Jacinto Amilpas, where the "libreto sanitario" is not required.

A "worrisome statistic" is that 40% of them (sex workers) are students at some level of study.

40% work in bars, while those who work the street are mainly single mothers, and 40% of those are illiterate.

[Border Rat]

Pecker Will

I don't really have directions to the zona there, but taking a cab would probably be the best bet. At least the first time to get your bearings and then you could drive after that if you feel up to it. I don't drive at all in Mexico. All I remember from the cab rides out there is passing the bus station, a bunch of topes, and then a dirt road about 10 lanes wide that looked like it had been bombed.

I envy you moving down there. I really liked that place. But as you know, comparing it to Juarez is like night and day. I managed to find two massage parlors in the city and they were both non-sexual...lol. And there are more bars on one block in Juarez than the entire city of Zac. But you cannot beat the guys selling aguamiel out of jugs strapped to burros, the callejoneadas, la mina, la bufa and all those sexy latinas in great shape from walking all those damned hills....lol. Ahhhh, maybe I'll head back down myself. Have fun....BR.

[Black Sheep]

Yester day's local paper (NOTICIAS) had article on robberies committed in "antros de vicio" by personnel (security and/or dancers), or with connivance of same. One guy killed at Caribe Club, one robbed in parking lot at La Habana. The one robbed claims to have had 15 thou pesos (why would anyone carry so much cash to a club is mystery).

Don't believe that foreigners are much at risk (gringos are unnatttractive targets, as they bring major heat), but a word to the wise.

[Pecker Will]

Thanks a mil, BR. I did not expect anyone to come up with anything. Can you give me more specific directions? I have a vehicle. Would you suggest taking my vehicle or just taking a cab? Do you have a name for the place? Which direction? I sure will appreciate any help. I plan to relocate on Sept. 1

I'll miss the action in Juarez but a guy's gotta do what he's gotta do.

PW

[Border Rat]

Pecker Will

Zacatecas is a pretty nice place to live, isn't it? I would pick it over any place in Mexico. Clean, safe, pretty, and comparatively few tourists. It's not much of a party town, but there is a zona de tolerancia just outside the city. $5 cab ride to a walled compound similar to Nuevo Laredo. I went a bunch of times during a month stay in Zac 2 years ago. I guess it is still there. About 15 different bars ranging from strip clubs to pure monger bars to hard drinking macho bars to live girl shows. Its worth checking out....BR