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  1. #2516
    I used to frequent Macau a lot between 2011 and 2014, but have since stayed away. My favourite saunas's were 18, Emperor, FN, East and Sanado (closed now. I was the last day it existed too). Never liked Rio girls except one due to excessive facial surgeries sending them far into the uncanny valley. One one Rio girl was hot in 3-4 years.

    But the prices back then was 1800-2200 for a coupon bought at shun take ferry terminal, and there were no reason to buy more than that.

    1. How is the prices for lets say 18 sauna and Familia Nobre now? And do you always have to pay more than the initial coupon price even if you go for the short chinese 1 XX girls at 18 sauna?

    2. Do they still handpick out the prettiest 9-10 girls in all these saunas and keep them away from the saunas and into the racist KTV's that only show the pretty ones to local Chinese men? And then ugly 1-5's to the foreigners such as happened to me both at Golden Dragon (18 sauna), and at 8 different changping KTV's and Bangkok KTV's? Or is the racism on retreat?

  2. #2515
    Quote Originally Posted by SpikeBites1  [View Original Post]
    ...started wandering around Lisboa hotel looking for this "Racetrack" that my friends tell me about. I walked for an hour around both Lisboa hotels (they are across the street from each other), and no girls in sight...
    First, that was a nice, detailed report. Thanks for taking the time to write it.

    Too bad you did not know that the racetrack has been closed for a few years now. Whoever sent you there should have known that.

    Quote Originally Posted by SpikeBites1  [View Original Post]
    ....And in terms of service and selection, to me at least the Hong Kong bar in Tijuana is a much better experience and more affordable.
    I would agree that the Hong Kong club in Tijuana can be more affordable, but better experience? I doubt it. I have visited both locations, many times, and I always found the sauna experience in Macau superior. In addition, I always end up spending more money at the HK club, when I add up the drinks for the girl and other miscellaneous fees.

  3. #2514
    Quote Originally Posted by HornyCock  [View Original Post]
    Is it possible to take out a girl at night from Hou Va paying the sauna for one-hour charge and then ask her to stay overnight with me?
    You can take them out for a surcharge. But I suspect that they are "on duty" for the establishment all evening and most of the night.

  4. #2513

    Hou Va sauna

    Is it possible to take out a girl at night from Hou Va paying the sauna for one-hour charge and then ask her to stay overnight with me?

  5. #2512
    Quote Originally Posted by HornyCock  [View Original Post]
    I will be visiting soon. Where is Hou Va sauna? Tried the advanced search and google map but don't find the address. Thanks.
    Centro Massagens Eléctrico Hou Va.

    Rua de Ferreira do Amaral 19.

    Across the part from Park Royal hotel.

  6. #2511

    Where is Hou Va

    I will be visiting soon. Where is Hou Va sauna? Tried the advanced search and google map but don't find the address. Thanks.

  7. #2510

    Hou Va

    Visited Hou Va today, arriving around 2 pm. Was greeted by papasan who summoned two girls and walked me through the menu. Pricing was 698 or 988-ish for the regular and model girls, respectively. I chose the mode girl because she was definitely in the upper tier looks department. Alas, service was mechanical. It got the job done, but I wasn't impressed with her or the facilities. Glad I stopped in, but next time I'll pony up more dough for a sauna experience.

  8. #2509

    Hou Va Opening Time?

    Quick question for those with more Macau experience than me. Trying to get a visit in today and interested in starting at Hou Va for some savings. Does anyone know what time they open and if going around lunchtime on a Sunday is a bad decision?

  9. #2508

    Which night to do Rio Spa?

    Any advice on doing the Rio Spa on a Sunday vs a Monday? Is Monday a day off for many of the girls?

    (I could potentially do Saturday, but my guess is it's super crowded then?

    My #2 pick is the One Sauna at Landmark, any compelling reason to choose this over the Rio for my first sauna try? I do like a good pool / spa & I absolutely hate being pestered / upsold.

    Thanks!

  10. #2507

    Tryst with Pretty girls in RIO

    It was cloudy and cool afternoon in Macau as we reached to our Ferry terminal by Cotai ferry. The Ferry Terminal looked better than my last visit in 2014. Bigger halls and Immigration was smooth, no questions asked. There were less tourists in the hall. Maybe it was working day or the business was slow no way of knowing. We took taxi to our hotel Rio. The taxi drivers in Macau hardly speak English so I carry hotel booking paper which has Hotel name in mandarin script which he understood.

    I have been planning this trip for some time, done RTFF many times. My last visit I did Sauna18 which was great experience. I still can not forget group of Japs in bathrobe with laptops in some intense discussion and then suddenly jumping up and running when the showtime bell goes off. Wish we had such corporate comradery LOL.

    This trip I had important friend who never been to Asia and I wanted him to have best experience. Many previous posts by seniors helped but Natty Bumpo had many good informative post on Macau Saunas. Thanks to you sir. I went back reading his posts till September 2017 which helped in making decision. His recommendation on all Saunas was useful. He quoted " *I recommend Rio if you are looking for the hottest Chinese, "Japanese & Korean" girls. " So it has to be Rio, since we had one Friday night and less time to try different saunas. I booked Rio hotel so that we don't have to move out of hotel.

    After checking in at 1 pm we went to have look at Rio Sauna, there was not much happening there. The guy told us the best time to come there is about 7 pm when we can see their best talent. We went out walking to Sanado square, So many tourists were walking around the square. Old Macau buildings has distinctive Portuguese influence, this country being their colony for hundreds of years. We had Portuguese food in Boa Mesa which was delicious. The octopus, grilled cod was delicious, a good Portuguese red added to our holiday mood in Macau. We came back to hotel, rested well and met downstairs at 6. 30 pm.

    As soon as we entered the Sauna a guy in suit who spoke good English took us in the hall where showtime has just started. It was crowded with mostly Chinese and few of us foreigners. There were 50-60 stunning girls in line up which was constantly moving. Chinese, Japanese and Koreans were most beautiful in the lineup, there were Russians and East European as well. We felt like kids in toyshop bewildered at the huge choice of pretty girls to play around. Prices quoted were from 3100 mop to 4000 mop. Natty Bumpo was right in saying that prices have gone up in last few years. I remember we paid 1800 in 2014 at Sauna 18 for Viet girl. As Natty has said it may be to cover bribes to be paid to local officials to keep business going. It is also may be because of the fact that Chinese economy has done well in recent years and young people, executives, businessmen have surplus income to splurge on everything. Branded Watches and Jewelry prices in Macau and HK were much higher as compared to other fashion capitals of world. Inspite of that the places were busy.

    The quality of girls were model like, tall sexy and beautiful. We decided on tall sexy Chinese girls. The lineup was constantly moving, not enough space on stage. I told my friend to find the girl who looks into your eyes and gives you slight smile. I chose no 285 with name Happy and he chose Lulu. Both girls were young, tall and pretty. Happy could speak some English which was a surprise. She was holding my hand as we walked into the hall. The Chinese man was saying very good choice etc maybe his usual sales pitch. We were ushered in the lounge and asked to wait till the rooms are prepared. In 15 minutes we walked to the room and there she was wearing sexy black lingerie She hugged me and I moved my hand over her body. She had tight ass and body of a young woman. The vibes were good. She was less than 21 years of age but refused to tell me her exact age, she had nice laugh of a teenager and was really a Happy person. She removed her lingerie She had medium natural breasts and smooth shapely body. She asked me to wait till she prepared the bath. There were mirrors on the ceiling and porn movie was on creating an erotic atmosphere. The bath was big rectangle tub made into bed with mattress soaked in warm water. I was asked to lie face down which I did slowly because things were getting slippery. The feeling of warm water was soothing and I was enjoying it. She used hand shower with soap to wash my back which was relaxing. She then applied nuru kind of gel and started sliding on my back, could feel her tits in my ass crack and sliding upward, she was good at it. I was rock hard and worried that I may puncture the mattress haha. The slide continued then she soaped my back with fragrant soap foam and washed me again. She asked me to turn which I was sure waiting for. I turned over and grabbed her wet sexy body, what a pleasure to run hands all over her firm natural medium tities and round ass of a young girl. She put foam and started sliding, she was pure delight to watch breathing down my neck with her wet hair and beautiful face smiling and giggling as her north south slide continued especially titillating the erogenous zones. It was a Nirvana moment. She allowed me to touch and put fingers carefully in her wet tight snatch. She was humming while I was enjoying the feel of her pussy. She now started moving from my toes upward slowly licking everything, first she moved her tongue all over my balls holding the fully erect mast and then she started a slow BBBJ. It was really good. She then gave me what is now standard in saunas here ice / fire blowjob. First cool mint like liquid in her mouth and then warm water alternating to give blowjob. It is different enjoyable in part but did not enjoy much may be because she was spitting in between. Next course was warm milk treatment. Warm milk was poured over my legs, cock, balls upto chest. She then licked it slowly slurping the milk. She was now focusing on my cock, she gave wonderful blowjob slurping that milk, She repeated milk and gave blowjob again this time it was deep throat. It was slow and I could see it in the mirror above. I was on the edge and did not want to blow it there. I stopped her and said I want now to fuck her because the mast is at it's largest. She giggled. On to the bed, she expertly put the condom. I went down and sucked her, she smelled and tasted young, sweet. She seems to be enjoying the DATY. I took her in mish, she guided me well into her after she put some lube saying you are not big but large. She must have seen bigger cocks than mine but they must be saying to feel you better and get harder LOL. She spread her legs and I humped for good amount of time longer than normally I last. It was very satisfying sex in mish, I even did not change the position. It was the perfect fit in her tight young snatch. It took me long time to come but stayed hard and large for sometimes before I collapsed on top of her as she was holding me affectionately. She again washed me thoroughly. We had 5 minutes left to one hour mark. I told her to give me foot massage which was good.

    She walked me to the hall and left me at the entrance with hug and smile. I saw my friend was on lounge chair with one Viet in red top giving him Thai massage and other one shoulder massage. He was beaming with happiness. He told me repeatedly that this was his best sauna experience. He could not stop talking about his girl Lulu. I was pleased that he has thoroughly enjoyed the experience. As soon as I was on the lounge chair the Massage girls, the nail cutter man started pestering me. I anyway wanted thigh massage. I had some good memories of it from Sauna18. I said yes to pretty viet for thigh massage and ohhh she was so good. She had that sexy look in her eyes when she massaged my cock under the towel with cream. She made me hard with her nice hand motion around twigs and berries. It is fun to do this under the towel in public area. There were other viet girls with tight skirt showing their ass. The were deliberately bending near the counter to entice men relaxing on lounge chairs. My Viet girl was teasing me into taking one more girl since I was hard and large under the towel LOL. But we did not take another girl, we were happy and we left. The total damage per person with extra services like thigh massage, pedicure, shoulder massage was about 3800 mop.

    We went to Cotai strip by taxi. The strip has changed a lot since my last visit. Walked from Sands, Parisian to Venetian and visited all casinos. They were massive with thousands of Mainland Chinese having great time, it was noisy and impressive interiors. Between Parisian and Venetian saw many SW mostly Chinese. They were approaching everyone boldly. One good looking girl got hold of my hand and said 1000 , one hour boom boom!! Some SW were doable, some looked Vietnamese. I am not sure about this SW, I will still stay with Saunas. Sad to know the Lisboa race track is closed. In last visit we stayed at Lisboa and watched those well dressed pretty Chinese girls walking in shopping arcade. We sat in corner caf and watched the fun. 30-40 girls constantly walking. It was unique.

    Yes, Macau has become expensive and there are many better options but Macau Sauna leaves good memory. I did FKKs, Bangkok fishbowls, Barcelona incall places with Jacuzzi. Each has it's own charm. But there is something about Macau Saunas which makes me feel going back again. A concept of total Girl friendly experience with prettiest girls, options of thigh massage, pedicure, manicure, shoulder massage etc under one roof.

    My friend said it is full service in real sense. He was the happiest man and could not stop talking about it even at 38000 feet standing at bar with drink as we flew back. !!

  11. #2506
    Quote Originally Posted by SpikeBites1  [View Original Post]
    So lesson learned, don't venture into Macau to monger during the daytime. Only go during the evenings. And in terms of service and selection, to me at least the Hong Kong bar in Tijuana is a much better experience and more affordable.
    That is it in a nutshell. Prime time Rio Sauna (8 pm to 11 pm) is a totally different place from the afternoon Rio Sauna you described. For starters there are at least 70 to 80 girls in the lineup with some major stunners. I was not impressed with Rio's collection of Euro girls, however, but many of the Asian girls were quite outstanding and true "model" quality. In my opinion November 2018 Rio Sauna had a better looking lineup of girls than I had seen in comparable bordellos in Bangkok (La Belle & the Lord) or in Jakarta (Malioboro & 1001 Hotel) this trip. More expensive too. 555.

    The hottest Rio girls, IMHO, were in the Chinese Super Model and Korean Model category. Familia Nobre currently has a gorgeous Ukrainian Model who is a real stunner. I was tempted to take her even though I never go for Caucasian girls in Asia, but her price was astronomical (4400 mop). Maybe you should have gone to FN if Caucasian was what you were looking for. The milk massage at Rio is not worth the time or money as you describe, but in all my visits to Rio, I have always been asked if I wanted it and it was never foisted on me. Perhaps you should have RTFF a little more carefully before venturing forth. LIve and learn I guess.

    Macau prices Are exorbitant. I suffered sticker shock my first night back due to the fact that since my last visit in 2016 prices have soared 35%. The amazing thing, however, is both Rio and Familia Nobre still have plenty of customers, mostly Chinese and I was in Macau from Sunday night to Friday morning. I would imagine that on weekends both places are jam packed with few lounge chairs free. I don't blame the sauna for the price hike. I believe the price increases go straight to payoffs of government and police officials in order to stay in business. P.S. the police closed down the Lisboa Racetrack a couple of years ago. I miss that set up. It was entertaining to watch all the eye candy, Lions Bar in the MGM is gone as well. That used to be a good place to pick up high quality Indo FL's. And MP3 is gone as well or maybe it just moved. I am not sure.

    I bought a Rio Sauna one year membership my 1st night back for 80 or 90 mop. This entitled me to 300 mop off the price of any girl and 1 free massage of my choice each and every night including a thigh massage. In addition, as a member if I wechatted the manager before coming, he would send a sauna limo to my hotel to pick me up and I would get an additional 300 mop off my girl, any girl. Thus the Rio membership was worth 900 mop per visit. Rio prices were still high, but the prime time girls are amazingly hot and service is excellent, at least in my recent experience this November. My trip report will follow shortly.

  12. #2505

    Rio Sauna

    Okay, let me preface this by saying that I didn't go at the optimal times for Macau. I was on a 3 day trip to HK for some business and had a free spare day, so I decided to hop on the ferry to Macau at 10 am from HK and I arrived at Cotai port. I was told to go to Lisboa Hotel which ended up being on the other side of Old Macau, so I took the bus to the other side and started wandering around Lisboa hotel looking for this "Racetrack" that my friends tell me about. I walked for an hour around both Lisboa hotels (they are across the street from each other), and no girls in sight. I was confused and annoyed I didn't see what Macau had to offer. But then I quickly realized it was probably the wrong time of day to be looking for girls since it was about 130 pm in the afternoon.

    Then my friend told me to check out the Sauna at Rio Hotel which was a short 15-20 minute walk from Hotel Lisboa. My cell phone wasn't roaming properly so I had no access to internet only texts so I couldn't do any proper research about the Rio Sauna. I arrived at around 2 pm, and was given the rundown on how the sauna works. The man in front showed me a poster that had prices listed from about 6000 MOP, down to 1150 MOP. The 1150 MOP was basically just to use the shower / sauna / relaxation room. Or more or less the entry fee. Then they had a list of other items like, "Mainland China, Vietnamese, European Beauties, and all the way at the top Japan AV Porn Star. " I was like wow this seems interesting even though for the price its 4-5 x more expensive than what I usually experience in Tijuana's Hong Kong bar. So I went in, undressed and they told me to put on a robe and take a shower. After that is done, they escorted me into a room with nice comfortable chair beds, gave me a free drink and asked me to wait. Since it was only 2 pm, they said that "shows" don't start for another hour. So I waited, relaxing. While every 5 minutes someone different would come up to me offering to massage a specific body part of mine. Whether it be foot, legs, thighs, head, chest, pretty much everything. Then someone would ask if I wanted pedicure / manicure. I passed on all of that. I was already expecting to pay about 3500 MOP for a European beauty. I dislike Asian girls in general being Asian myself, and so I am basically tired of always eating rice.

    So the first show starts and about 7 girls come out onto stage with rave music blaring. A few other guys grab some girls and off to the room they went. I didn't like any of the options since they were all mainlanders so the MMS told me that the next show was in 30 minutes. So I agreed and went back to my chair bed and waited again. 30 minutes pass and another show started. It was the same girls in addition to maybe 2 other mainlanders. By now it was 330 pm, and I knew I was screwed for time since I needed to be back in HK by 7 pm for a dinner meeting. I knew full well I still needed to visit a few places in Macau before heading back to HK so I reluctantly agreed to take a mainland Chinese girl back whom the MMS quoted 2800 MOP for. BTW, I asked the MMS when the European beauties would arrive and she then tells me 5 pm!! Ugh. I could've used that information earlier and avoided the place had I known no european girls would be available during my visit.

    Anyways, I get escorted upstairs to room with this weird bathtub bed. This mainland asian girl spoke no English so I had to use my limited Mandarin to speak to her. It sucked. She leads me to this bathtub bed and starts to mix this white liquid which I was later told was Milk into this bathtub. She asked me to lay in the tub and begins to do a pseudo nuru massage rubbing her body against mine. I thought it was kind of meh. Useless really. Didn't enjoy it. I also didn't like the fact that she had boltons. Huge turn off. After the bath, back onto the bed we went and while I lay there she has this bucket placed next to the bed and what she ends up doing is taking a mouthful of ice water into her mouth and starts spitting and sucking it back into her mouth while kissing my body. It was a weird experience, but she would keep making this spitting sound into the bucket. That was a huge distraction. Then she did it while giving me a BBBJ, okay nice, Interesting I thought.

    What I did like was the mirror on top of the bed. It was pretty cool to look down at myself while getting a blowjob. First time I've had that experience. So, after that weird water sucking thing, she started giving me a handjob. I was trying to finger her while she did that but she wouldn't allow it. UGH. WTF. After a bit of coaxing, she agreed but only after she stuck a condom on my fingers LOL. Well, I was already annoyed about the experience and the fact that I dislike mainland Chinese girls, it was very hard for me to get hard let alone stay hard. She finally got me up and slapped the condom on. After a few minutes I lost my chubby and she got off, and started stroking me to completion.

    After the first pop, she told me that I am allowed two pops for 80 minutes total. (forgot to mention that was told to me as we were walking up to the room, but I didn't understand it properly because the MMS' English was very bad). So the girl said we can go again but I told her that I was already pressed for time and I needed to leave. She said fine, and we both got dressed. As I was getting ready to pay, they all notice that I was in and out very quickly and asked if anything was wrong. I told them that I had to leave because I have other plans. He gave me the bill and it came out to be 4800 MOP! I'm like WTF. I was expecting to pay 2800 for the mainland Chinese girl, which was already about $400 USD, which is clearly overpriced compared to what we pay here in Socal or Tijuana, and now my bill was 4800 MOP which is about 600-700 USD! I asked the manager how did it become so expensive. He basically explained that it was $2800 for the girl, along with like $600 MOP for the "milk bath" which I didn't request or even agree to. And there was another charge for something, I don't remember but the total came out to 4800. So basically I paid 6-700 USD for one pop and a subpar experience. Then to make matters worse, I asked the manager why there were no European girls, and he told me they don't come in until 8 pm!

    So yeah, I would've been even more upset if I waited til 5 pm for the euro girls and none showed up until 8 pm. I was already late enough as it is. So lesson learned, don't venture into Macau to monger during the daytime. Only go during the evenings. And in terms of service and selection, to me at least the Hong Kong bar in Tijuana is a much better experience and more affordable.

  13. #2504

    My best sexual experience. ShenZhen sauna.

    To Stinky feet.

    I was not impressed with the quality of girls in saunas in Macau and Shenzhen. In about 2012 I was with a bunch of business friends and went to Queen's Spa in ShenZhen after dinner. Their line up was pretty poor at 8 PM. The girls wore fancy dresses but look homey, sad, depressing. The stars were more expensive just because they were taller, not more beautiful, but also looked old, homey and tired. I took one since there were no better choices. She went through the whole menu of suck, lick, fuck ect, but I was not sexually excited by her older and worn appearances.

    But one time a friend took me to a sauna in a small town outside ShenZhen, called Dalien Business Resort, a five-star hotel with large rooms complete with a sauna, bath, large king bed and large screen TV. They had a stage and by 3 PM they started a fashion show, only half a dozen HK guys were there, drinking tea, ogling the girls. About 30 girls started parading in party dresses, most looked plain. I picked the yongest and hottest girls, she said 18 from ShenZhen. Her name was Xiao Xien, or Little Xien. It costed about $160 for 90 minutes, which included 2 shots.

    She steamed, bathed me then we went to the bed for the massage and sex. She tookk care of me like a baby, did everything in the menu, including spreading toothpaste in my anus for a rim job. I really enjoyed her beauty and youthfulness. After the first shot, she steamed me again and blew me bareback to get me hard again. I started penetrating her bare back, shot again, but did not feel tired. Got to admit it felt good and rejuvenating. She made sure I understood that more shots would cost more money, but I liked her so much and felt so good that I quickly agreed. She blew me BB again and I did 2 more shots BB with her. Overall I did 4 shots with her in 90 minutes, still feeling wonderful, satisfied, energetic at the end. It was amazing how this young girl managed to coach 4 shots out of me in a short time. I would definitely spend money for those kinds of exquisite sexual pleasures.

    She quickly exited the room at the end to go back to the line up for more business. I paid the resort about $240 for the session and went to their cafeteria for free chow mein and beers to recoup with my friend. A line of 8 male and female resort managers in suits walked pass my table, looking at the 4-shot monster with their conspiratory smiling hehe. Some of those female managers were in their mid 30's, wearing suit and skirt uniform like Asian flight attendants. They look nice, clean, smart, sexy enough to fuck.

    That was my best sauna experience, well, the best sexual experience ever, 4 shots with the same sex partner feeling totally relaxed, rejuvenated. That young girl knew what she was doing and was better than 1,000 doctors. She could be the secret to livinglong and sexually strong. Don't know if Dalien Business Resort still operates but I wish I can find similar facilities with same girls and would definitely spend money for the same pleasures.
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  14. #2503
    Quote Originally Posted by Rich888  [View Original Post]
    Unfortunately, the cost was a real surprise MOP 2800 so this will be my last visit.
    I stopped doing Macau saunas because the novelty isn't there anymore. This was back in 2012. I was a avid east spa customer from 2006 - 2010 but seeing the services decline, the Showtime is few and far between, the quantity and quality of girls are decline, and the last kicker the price increase from 1200 mop to 2600 mop excluding the BS 15% misc fee.

    I don't know what it will take for the customers to stop going so east spa can either be forced to improve or shut down.

  15. #2502

    Holiday Spa (closed? FNS, Emperor

    Flying visit. Thanks CX for an unexpected cheap flight offer. Stayed at the Holiday Inn (not the Cotai one). Not expensive and convenient. But do not bother with the restaurant or swimming pool.

    Holiday Spa was shut. Notices outside seems to be notifying of facility turn-off, so someone maybe not paying the bills. (My Portuguese is nill, and my Mandarin even worst.) So if this was not temporary, RIP Holiday Spa. And Windsor Spa for those that remember.

    Usual visit to FNS. Really good time with usual thigh massage and massage ladies both in one evening! I never seem to make it to the working gals these days.

    Visited Emperor Spa. I think I reviewed this place before and was not that impressed, but really enjoyed it this time. Spa area ladies are rather pushy, so be prepared. I had a Japanese Shower. Very good fun with a very chatty Viet.

    A they have a 'butt massage', like a thigh massage, but the other way around, and it in a private room. Until you turn around that is. Very nice way to spend a few hours in the afternoon.

    One Spa much the same. It well fitted out, welcoming staff. One of the ladies who I got to know ages ago seems still working there. Came to my hotel room the next day before work. A real blast. Some people just love f*king!

    That is. Do not find myself in this part of the world that often these days. Thank god, I cannot afford it too often. But there is something about the easiness of having sex in Macau that I still like.

    Maybe next time Jakarta.

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