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  1. #16656
    Quote Originally Posted by NattyBumpo  [View Original Post]
    The most likely place to find the Lord girls would be Copa Cabana .
    Google has Copa listed as permanently closed, I too had hopes of experiencing lord and Copa on my visit in June.

  2. #16655
    Quote Originally Posted by NattyBumpo  [View Original Post]
    The most likely place to find the Lord girls would be Copa Cabana. Unless I hear news that it is closed, I will be going there within the 1st week of my next arrival in BKK.

    Turgid, have you been to Jakarta? Or Macau? Both destinations have great bordellos similar to the Lord in quality of girls, service, and price (LOL). Sadly, Hotel Alexis in Jakarta was closed down while I was away. I loved that place! But the good news is I am still in LINE contact with my favorite Alexis girl and we will be reuniting as soon as I arrive in town. Also, like the Lord Group, the Alexis group manages other properties including Colosseum & Pool 1001 and Emporium which are still open for business.

    Macau has some great saunas like Rio and Familia Nobre. Darling 1 in Macau is kind of similar to Nataree. Only a little more upscale (555).......
    I visited Jakarta as well in 2015 and had a fantastic time there especially in Malio club / malioboro, never visited Alexis. My plan is certainly to hop over to Jakarta occasionally while living in Thailand but being resident in Bangkok I would like to have access to the hottest providers in the city. I've never been to Macau, it is just too expensive and from reports on ISG the service there is not very enthusiastic.

  3. #16654
    Quote Originally Posted by ReefLostCause  [View Original Post]
    Does somebody know of lesser ones that would still be open and who'd have picked up some of the girls?
    In another part of town, Chaophraya 2 (on Sri Ayutthaya road, near Airport Link Rachaprarop) is open. As far as I know, So Botan on Rama IX near Uruphong junction is still open (and cheap too, was 1000/ pop in late 2017).

  4. #16653
    Quote Originally Posted by Bkkdog  [View Original Post]
    I would like to know the source of information you have about the Lord being shut down forever? The sign on the door clearly states closed for renovations.
    It is quite possible that the Lord closed down for renovations before the authorities came to inspect. The renovations could easily be something like doing away with Artesian water piping, should they have been using it. I. E. Could be a cover up job.

  5. #16652
    Quote Originally Posted by Turgid  [View Original Post]
    Damn, and I never even got to sample it. I really loved Nataree in my 2015 visit to Thailand and was looking forward to the Lord when I retire in Thailand next year. Surely the Lord girls would not simply have quit the business, they must be working elsewhere.
    The most likely place to find the Lord girls would be Copa Cabana. Unless I hear news that it is closed, I will be going there within the 1st week of my next arrival in BKK.

    Turgid, have you been to Jakarta? Or Macau? Both destinations have great bordellos similar to the Lord in quality of girls, service, and price (LOL). Sadly, Hotel Alexis in Jakarta was closed down while I was away. I loved that place! But the good news is I am still in LINE contact with my favorite Alexis girl and we will be reuniting as soon as I arrive in town. Also, like the Lord Group, the Alexis group manages other properties including Colosseum & Pool 1001 and Emporium which are still open for business.

    Macau has some great saunas like Rio and Familia Nobre. Darling 1 in Macau is kind of similar to Nataree. Only a little more upscale (555).

    Quote Originally Posted by Bkkdog  [View Original Post]
    I would like to know the source of information you have about the Lord being shut down forever? The sign on the door clearly states closed for renovations.
    Yes, I remember your original report. I sure hope it is true.

  6. #16651

    Lord's shut down.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bkkdog  [View Original Post]
    I would like to know the source of information you have about the Lord being shut down forever? The sign on the door clearly states closed for renovations.
    I was at the spot on March 24. It was totally closed down and not a single sign of renovations outside.

    I asked a girl in Aleina about the shutdown and whether it would open again and she simply said: "so many soapies have shut down". She had worked for quite some years at Emmanuelle and was now working at Aleina.

    I wrote this before but I type quicker than I look for old posts.

  7. #16650
    Quote Originally Posted by ReefLostCause  [View Original Post]
    The Lord has shut down, so he's pretty much out of options, as far as soapies are concerned.

    BTW, has anybody kept track of which of the main soapies were still open?

    Lord. Closed.

    Amsterdam. Closed.

    Nataree. Closed.

    Colonze 2/ Whatever it was called. Closed. (was lousy for me anyway).

    Which leaves us with:

    Poseidon. Open.

    Emmanuelle. Open.

    La Defense. Open? (but in another part of town).

    Does somebody know of lesser ones that would still be open and who'd have picked up some of the girls?
    I would like to know the source of information you have about the Lord being shut down forever? The sign on the door clearly states closed for renovations.

  8. #16649

    Aleina.

    Quote Originally Posted by KillArmy  [View Original Post]
    Any recommendations for a good Soapy for 60/90 min with HJ happy ending for no more than around 2500/3000 would be nice though. Otherwise I will just try my luck with Passion.
    Aleina is just a bit further on the road from the Lord's (exiting the MRT station Huai Khwang). Last year I paid 6000 in the Lord's and it was very good (for sex in Bkk, that is). This year (some 5 weeks ago?) I paid 4000 in Aleina. Twice I simply picked the best looking girl. The Lord's girl returned her interest. The Aleina girl less so. Lord's girl was much better but if you really want a soapy then I guess going with a girl at Aleina's that smiles back at you, will not disappoint you. Price range in Aleina is around 3800 with not much difference for the lower and higher priced girls. I don't know about the sideline girls as I prefer a tanned girl and they are rarely on the sideline. I found the friendliness of staff in both places comparable.

  9. #16648
    Quote Originally Posted by NattyBumpo  [View Original Post]
    Say it's not true! I thought the Lord was closed for renovations only. It's a real blow, LOL, if it is closed permanently. I am bummed out! That was the best soapy in BKK........
    Damn, and I never even got to sample it. I really loved Nataree in my 2015 visit to Thailand and was looking forward to the Lord when I retire in Thailand next year. Surely the Lord girls would not simply have quit the business, they must be working elsewhere.

  10. #16647
    Quote Originally Posted by KillArmy  [View Original Post]
    At Natty Bumpo, I am a bit surprised by your answer since, indeed, it seems to focus mainly on massage but also, according to their website, offer 'Passion Soapy & Bathing Package'. Seems quite close to what I can expect from a Soapy no?
    In an oily massage parlor the focus is on sex. That means the customer will recieve a hanky panky shower, BBBJ, & vaginal sex along with usually a very ordinary untrained massage before and after the deed if there is still time on the clock. I am sure the girls will be very happy to provide you with a happy ending HJ if that is what you want.

    In a soapy there is always a tub and body to body massage and titi fucking in the tub before sex. Soapy girls on average seem better trained and more experienced in the art. IE the good ones really know what to do with their pussies and give great BBBJ's in the tub and on the bed. Rim jobs can also be on the menu in a good soapy. Furthermore, the whole soapy establishment is far more upscale and ornate and so the price is much higher as well.

    If you want a semi soapy experience without the soapy price I recommend Addicts over Passion and I suggest you get the jacuzzi room for 90 minutes. Mitu might be another place to go for a semi soapy experience. Mitu's price is certainly high enough. I have never been there, but I have heard overall good things.

    If you want a legit Thai massage you have to go elsewhere.

    Quote Originally Posted by KillArmy  [View Original Post]
    I am surprised you say the list is fake (maybe the pictures are not very accurate / girls are older but that's a classic) since you can book them in advance for a specific moment of the day / evening by just telling their name.
    Maybe I was not clear enough. THE PICTURES ARE TOTALY FAKE! AND I DO NOT BELIEVE HALF THE GIRLS SHOWN ON THE WEBSITE EVEN WORK THERE. For some reason this does not bother me too much. I go to an oily, see who is available and if find no one is to my liking I politely take my leave and go somewhere else. It is all part of the excitement/entertainment value of the hunt.

    Quote Originally Posted by KillArmy  [View Original Post]
    Any recommendations for a good Soapy for 60/90 min with HJ happy ending for no more than around 2500/3000 would be nice though. Otherwise I will just try my luck with Passion.
    Additcts with the jacuzzi room is definitely within your price range. Mitu is above it. As for most most soapies; the starting price for the lowest category girls is usually around 3000 - 3200 baht and then it goes up from there all the way to plus 7000 baht for the sideline girls.

    Read the previous posts from just last night. There have been a lot of soapy closures recently. Of the ones remaining open I would recommend Emmanuelle, Copa Cabana (if it is still open), and La Belle with the reservations I pointed out in my post (high quality girls but sadly inconsistent service).

  11. #16646
    Quote Originally Posted by KillArmy  [View Original Post]
    At Natty Bumpo, I am a bit surprised by your answer since, indeed, it seems to focus mainly on massage but also, according to their website, offer 'Passion Soapy & Bathing Package'. Seems quite close to what I can expect from a Soapy no? Details here: http://bangkokpassionmassage.com/prices/..
    The differences between a "Soapy" and an "Oily" blur, but essentially there are certain things that make for a proper "Soapy" massage venue, and it does not really relate to the possibility that the room has a bath.

    1. Firstly when you enter a Soapy, there should be a large line up of girls in a seated area, often tiered seating and often behind glass, so that the girls cannot hear discussions between the Chearperson and the customers. Oilies do not have a fishbowl typically.

    2. In a Soapy, the customer can sit and order a drink or food while viewing the girl line up, possibly calling girls over to the table to give them a drink or have a chat. The customer is usually under no obligation to choose a girl in a big hurry. You can wait for further girls to arrive in the line up before selecting. Oilies do not provide for customer to sit and eat and drink for a long time and choose a girl much later.

    3. Having chosen a girl, she will normally spend considerable time in a Soapy bubble bath getting you very clean before migration to a proper bed for sex (rarely any actual massage in my experience but Thai massage is possible). Oilies don't have proper beds, only massage mats.

    4. Having a bodyslide mat is an optional that used to be available in some Soapies. However modern day Nuru massage joints have this and are still not full Soapies. Addict has a soapy bubble bath and optional mats for a body slide but still does not fully qualify to be a soapy (fails point 1).

    As Natty points out, Honey Bee / Passion are probably not meeting the aspects typical of a Soapy. I haven't been there so I speculate, but Natty knows very well for sure.

    Even Annies did not meet the typical aspects of a Soapy, so while it was generally known as a Soapy, I saw it as closer to an Oily pretending to be a Soapy. Having a body slide and a bath is not enough. Annies would have best been described as a hybrid between Soapy and Oily as the facilities were not really up to standard. No bed. Small bath. No ability to view the line up for long time periods. Girls not in the fish bowl continuously, till chosen.

    Soapies have all in prices, so if you don't want full sex, you will still pay for it. Many years ago some Soapies (Chao Phraya 2) had a price for Thai massage only and sex could be an extra payment to girl.

  12. #16645
    Quote Originally Posted by NattyBumpo  [View Original Post]
    Say it's not true! I thought the Lord was closed for renovations only. It's a real blow, LOL, if it is closed permanently. I am bummed out! That was the best soapy in BKK.

    What about Copa Cabana? It is under the same Lord Group management company and I would assume many of the Lord girls would now be working there if it is still open. I plan to check that out when I arrive in town.
    There is a swag of Soapies closed down recently, with a pretty much common theme, for the illegal used of Artesian (underground water) considered to be causing Bangkok to gradually sink by 1 cm per year. Even Annies. This does not apply to old closures like Nataree which closed due to age problems, sex trafficking, foreign girls (non Thai), tax evasion etc.

    I doubt the Lord would have needed renovations so possibly another one in the same category. It will be excellent for the improved business of the remaining Soapies which tended to have a lack of customers.

  13. #16644

    Answer.

    At Natty Bumpo, I am a bit surprised by your answer since, indeed, it seems to focus mainly on massage but also, according to their website, offer 'Passion Soapy & Bathing Package'. Seems quite close to what I can expect from a Soapy no? Details here: http://bangkokpassionmassage.com/prices/..

    Thank you for your report but do you remember the name of the girl so I could eventually book her? Maybe she is in the list I gave.

    I am surprised you say the list is fake (maybe the pictures are not very accurate / girls are older but that's a classic) since you can book them in advance for a specific moment of the day / evening by just telling their name.

    Any recommendations for a good Soapy for 60/90 min with HJ happy ending for no more than around 2500/3000 would be nice though. Otherwise I will just try my luck with Passion.

  14. #16643
    Quote Originally Posted by ReefLostCause  [View Original Post]
    The Lord has shut down. BTW, has anybody kept track of which of the main soapies were still open?

    Lord. Closed. Amsterdam. Closed. Nataree. Closed. Colonze 2/ Whatever it was called. Closed. (was lousy for me anyway).

    Which leaves us with:

    Poseidon. Open.

    Emmanuelle. Open.

    La Defense. Open? (but in another part of town).

    Does somebody know of lesser ones that would still be open and who'd have picked up some of the girls?
    Say it's not true! I thought the Lord was closed for renovations only. It's a real blow, LOL, if it is closed permanently. I am bummed out! That was the best soapy in BKK.

    What about Copa Cabana? It is under the same Lord Group management company and I would assume many of the Lord girls would now be working there if it is still open. I plan to check that out when I arrive in town.

    And what about La Belle? I always considered La Belle a direct competitor to the Lord in 5-star Soapy category. Some of the sideline La Belle girls were simply gorgeous. Unfortunately, I always found service was inconsistent. It was either really, really great (Lord Quality) or just so so and so so is a waste of money, time, and personal vital fluids. Therefore, I bet La Belle is still open. 555.

  15. #16642
    Quote Originally Posted by Bkkdog  [View Original Post]
    I have tried the Jaquizzis at B & B, Club 102, Addict, The Lord and Posiden. I think the only ones that you could fit comfortably in would be at Poseidon and The Lord.
    The Lord has shut down, so he's pretty much out of options, as far as soapies are concerned.

    BTW, has anybody kept track of which of the main soapies were still open?

    Lord. Closed.

    Amsterdam. Closed.

    Nataree. Closed.

    Colonze 2/ Whatever it was called. Closed. (was lousy for me anyway).

    Which leaves us with:

    Poseidon. Open.

    Emmanuelle. Open.

    La Defense. Open? (but in another part of town).

    Does somebody know of lesser ones that would still be open and who'd have picked up some of the girls?

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