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  1. #15878
    Quote Originally Posted by PhilAndererer  [View Original Post]
    After reading your suggestions, I find that it is not wise to spend the money in soapies as they are relatively expensive with no good experience. But in my place it is not possible to find such establishments, so it is a must-to-do thing for me.

    1. Are soapies and nuru massages different from one another (in theory it might be different, but in practical terms)? Do I need to take both?

    2. Can you suggest one good soapy and nuru massage establishment in Bangkok and Pattaya? I know that the girls and GFEs are subjective things, but suggest better establishments in terms of no ripoffs and customer friendly ones.

    Thanks.
    It is unwise assumption that Soapies will not work for you. Some guys love it, and I used to use for many years up to dropping off 5 years ago (very few recent great experiences. My I am not normal). There are budget priced soapies, such as Ocean, Merci, Evita, Meree, Catherine, Nancy etc. Annies is designated as a Soapy, but I put it in a special category, since it fails to match many characteristics of a Soapy, particularly for not having plenty of time to watch the girls before choosing, and also due to very small low standard rooms with very cramped space for body slide.

    For Nuru I suggest check if Chrome Bar has any girls that appeal (may not). Some guys don't like the setup but I found it okay I have had 2 or 3 good girls in there (of the slim variety) but not recently.

  2. #15877
    Quote Originally Posted by PhilAndererer  [View Original Post]
    This is my first visit to Thailand. I am Staying in Bangkok for 4 days near Soi Cowboy as well as in Pattaya and Phuket for a few more days. Heard that Ratchadapisek road in Bangkok is a hub for many soapy massage parlors. Is it worth visiting this place for the sole purpose of getting a better soapy massage there instead of places around Soi Cowboy? Or should I try these kind of massages in Pattaya for better experience?
    After reading your suggestions, I find that it is not wise to spend the money in soapies as they are relatively expensive with no good experience. But in my place it is not possible to find such establishments, so it is a must-to-do thing for me.

    1. Are soapies and nuru massages different from one another (in theory it might be different, but in practical terms)? Do I need to take both?

    2. Can you suggest one good soapy and nuru massage establishment in Bangkok and Pattaya? I know that the girls and GFEs are subjective things, but suggest better establishments in terms of no ripoffs and customer friendly ones.

    Thanks.

  3. #15876
    Quote Originally Posted by PhilAndererer  [View Original Post]
    This is my first visit to Thailand. I am Staying in Bangkok for 4 days near Soi Cowboy as well as in Pattaya and Phuket for a few more days. Heard that Ratchadapisek road in Bangkok is a hub for many soapy massage parlors. Is it worth visiting this place for the sole purpose of getting a better soapy massage there instead of places around Soi Cowboy? Or should I try these kind of massages in Pattaya for better experience?
    I've spent some time in Pattaya and visited some massage places there a few years ago.

    I actually liked it better than Bangkok. And it wasn't so much about the massage places, as it was about the pollution, the traffic, and the long travel distances in Bangkok. Everything was better in Pattaya in this regard.

    It's hard to be in the mood to do some hot lady good, when you are surrounded by heavy traffic and breathing in all the pollution.

    Bangkok places are also more likely to rip you off in terms of money, than places in Pattaya. You need to be more careful in this regard in Bangkok than in Pattaya.

    But I have to admit that Bangkok has more ladies and more massage places to choose from, than Pattaya. In this regard, Bangkok is better.

    One of the massage ladies, I liked in Pattaya, actually came from Bangkok. That's what she told me. Which means that there is some travel between Bangkok and Pattaya. They aren't isolated from each other in terms of their ladies.

  4. #15875
    Quote Originally Posted by JavaMan  [View Original Post]
    I went to Cherry massage Tues night. I was hoping to meet Yok, but was told she is no longer in Bangkok. My back up was Kiwi. Kiwi's pic on the website are dated, she's a little bigger now. Cut to the chase: I was a little leery about my selection, but once we got going, she did not disappoint. Despite her larger size, Kiwi is a performer. (Me too, LOL.) She has great BJ skills. She got into the session, which had lots moaning from her and DFK. Lots of positions and A+ too. Because of her bigger size, she can take a pounding. Kiwi probably isn't for most here, But I had a great time with her.
    I've looked up lady Kiwi's picture at the Cherry Massage website, and one thing I like about her is her big natural tits. I think she has bigger tits than any other lady there. And she is natural too. Which makes her good to suck, while you are at it with her.

    http://cherrymassagebkk.com/massage-ladies/

    And now that lady Kiwi has gained some weight, I can only imagine how big and how full she is in the boob department.

    Also, having the lady get into the session with you makes all the difference. Because when the lady obviously enjoys what you are doing with her, then this gives you confidence and enables you to perform well with her.

    This is what the lady's personality is all about. It's when one way or another the lady gives you confidence with her, rather than robs you of it. And of course, confidence is a two-way street. You need to play your part and give the lady some confidence too.

  5. #15874
    Quote Originally Posted by PhilAndererer  [View Original Post]
    This is my first visit to Thailand. I am Staying in Bangkok for 4 days near Soi Cowboy as well as in Pattaya and Phuket for a few more days. Heard that Ratchadapisek road in Bangkok is a hub for many soapy massage parlors. Is it worth visiting this place for the sole purpose of getting a better soapy massage there instead of places around Soi Cowboy? Or should I try these kind of massages in Pattaya for better experience?
    It's very much a matter of opinion. I have struggled to get really good Soapy experiences in recent times at Ratchada, because I am a big Farang maybe, or more demanding for GFE, fun, and extended sex. My girls tried at Annies and Chrome bar performed way better (only a few are good enough looking). I had a really good girl at Evita (not in Ratchada). I also had a reasonable girl in Ocean. I had a soso girl at the Lord (the extra price did not convert to extra good time).

    Many guys hate bars, but I just happen to be able to have fun there and get really good girls sometimes, while wasting some money of drinks and BF. Just have to be prepared to move on if the right type of girl I not there. I can't say why but my success rate with girls I want to repeat seems highest at the bars. This is partly form being able to sit with them and chat for a while to gauge how well we might get on. It is partly from being able to see that girl's body properly to know she is really hot for my taste. It is partly from being able to select girls experienced with Farangs and preferring Farangs. These things help me to cut down the mistakes. Mostly I have not been choosing girls in a big rush on the first meeting. This also reduces errors.

    Best performing porn stars should be in places like Tulip and Snow White, etc. but struggle to find a pretty girl there.

    It is best to try everything and multiple times. Cannot judge any place fairly by a single bad experience. Can only judge the particular girl.

  6. #15873
    Quote Originally Posted by PhilAndererer  [View Original Post]
    This is my first visit to Thailand. I am Staying in Bangkok for 4 days near Soi Cowboy as well as in Pattaya and Phuket for a few more days. Heard that Ratchadapisek road in Bangkok is a hub for many soapy massage parlors. Is it worth visiting this place for the sole purpose of getting a better soapy massage there instead of places around Soi Cowboy? Or should I try these kind of massages in Pattaya for better experience?
    No no. Definetly avoid the pattaya ones. Tourist traps and the most mechanical girls.

  7. #15872

    Best Soapies.

    This is my first visit to Thailand. I am Staying in Bangkok for 4 days near Soi Cowboy as well as in Pattaya and Phuket for a few more days. Heard that Ratchadapisek road in Bangkok is a hub for many soapy massage parlors. Is it worth visiting this place for the sole purpose of getting a better soapy massage there instead of places around Soi Cowboy? Or should I try these kind of massages in Pattaya for better experience?

  8. #15871

    Cherry Massage

    I went to Cherry massage Tues night. I was hoping to meet Yok, but was told she is no longer in Bangkok. My back up was Kiwi. Kiwi's pic on the website are dated, she's a little bigger now. Cut to the chase: I was a little leery about my selection, but once we got going, she did not disappoint. Despite her larger size, Kiwi is a performer. (Me too, LOL.) She has great BJ skills. She got into the session, which had lots moaning from her and DFK. Lots of positions and A+ too. Because of her bigger size, she can take a pounding. Kiwi probably isn't for most here, But I had a great time with her.

  9. #15870
    Quote Originally Posted by LadyMontbarron  [View Original Post]
    Just visited Ratchadapisek early last week and stopped by The Lord. They only had few girls at the time and the price was too high, around 8000 baht (modaf*kn ripoff). The girls looked okay, nothing special so I moved on to Alaina. I picked 1 girl, 2000 baht for 1 HR 30 min. The room was small, they didn't have large bath tub and it's kinda dirty, unlike my previous experiences at other parlors. The service was okay, the girl had dark skin and spoke little English. We showered together and she gave me some little massage, I didn't enjoy myself much so I just had a quick sex with her and gave her some tip then leaved. The mamasan gave me her number, promised there will be more beautiful girls next time but I'm not sure I'll go to that place again. I'll come back to Bangkok at the end of the year so anyone can give me some recommendation? Also are Ocean Massage and Colonze 2 the same place? Maybe I'm going to check out LE Madame, Emmanuelle and Caesar's, and some girls on the Smooci app too.
    Ocean is the old Colonze 2, yes. Emmanuelle has merged with Amsterdam and so boosted the quality of girl selections, considerably.

    In any place girls are not guaranteed to be any good. I would suggest try for value Ocean, Meree, Evita, Merci (Maxi). See if you get lucky. In higher price bracket have Emmanuelle.

    Years ago I went to Caesar's and found it was mostly for Asians with attempts to gouge about double the price for Farangs. Other places have a more reasonable Farang surcharge that is fixed, and not at discretion of how much the papasan thinks can be ripped off.

    My last visit to Emmanuelle I had a stunning slim girl that was hopeless for experience and skills and general cooperation. Shit bad luck happens.

  10. #15869

    Terrible experience at Alaina! Anyone can tell me where i should go next?

    Just visited Ratchadapisek early last week and stopped by The Lord. They only had few girls at the time and the price was too high, around 8000 baht (modaf*kn ripoff). The girls looked okay, nothing special so I moved on to Alaina. I picked 1 girl, 2000 baht for 1 HR 30 min. The room was small, they didn't have large bath tub and it's kinda dirty, unlike my previous experiences at other parlors. The service was okay, the girl had dark skin and spoke little English. We showered together and she gave me some little massage, I didn't enjoy myself much so I just had a quick sex with her and gave her some tip then leaved. The mamasan gave me her number, promised there will be more beautiful girls next time but I'm not sure I'll go to that place again. I'll come back to Bangkok at the end of the year so anyone can give me some recommendation? Also are Ocean Massage and Colonze 2 the same place? Maybe I'm going to check out LE Madame, Emmanuelle and Caesar's, and some girls on the Smooci app too.

  11. #15868
    Quote Originally Posted by Goatscrot  [View Original Post]
    Can't think of one aspect of the BKK P4 P scene that has improved since the floods of '11, which seemed to have a very big effect on the FL scene. Since '14 it's really gone downhill. Suk is just a mess these days. Just a horrible demographic roaming the streets. Can't blame the gals for not wanting to be out.
    Indeed, the Suk FL scene went downhill fast, I miss that the most. Back before 2010, there have been hundreds of decent FL streetwalkers on any given night, easy to get 2 pops for 1000 baht, and they were generally pleasant. Plenty of normal girls too, part-timers. The few dozen dregs out there these days are downright terrifying, and on rare occasion that I managed to find a non-repulsive one, service has been decidedly underwhelming.

    Unfortunately, it's not only Thailand, I can't think of many places worldwide that have improved for mongering over the last 5 years. Budapest is far worse, Jakarta is still OK but worse, Singapore is worse, Phnom Penh is obviously worse. Only Vientiane has improved (or at least I discovered a dozen brothels I wasn't aware of before). Do any experienced mongers here know of other scenes that got better lately?

  12. #15867
    Quote Originally Posted by LoveHole69  [View Original Post]
    I have had some great service with Chinese hookers
    Where? I haven't been to PRC, but had plenty of Chinese hookers (including PRC) all over SE Asia, and good performers are few and far between. I do like the Chinese MILF look, though.

    Quote Originally Posted by LoveHole69  [View Original Post]
    does anyone have any experience with Vietnam? As I should think the prices are good and I think Viet girls generally look better than Thai anyway
    Attitudes in Vietnam are atrocious, to the point that not even cheap mongering is worthwhile (at least HCMC, I hear Hanoi is worse). Oddly enough, I had occasional decent experiences with Vietnamese hookers in other places (Laos, Malaysia), but not even a single memorable one Vietnam itself, and it's not for the lack of trying. Attitude-wise, my top 20% of experiences in Vietnam are on par with bottom 20% in Thailand.

  13. #15866

    Run.

    Igzca it was maybe you but I read a post or posts years ago about run getting rather loose and staining people and the sheets brown.

    Unfortunately I never got to try my size on her but seems she would handle anything well despite being small. The best I had for that was Yok very accommodating and strong endurance she could take on a whole team but for mongers who are not large sized I would imagine it might be like dipping in a pool.

    Dextro sol did you say run jumped on you bareback? Did you catch anything as she was always giving snow white customers the clap.

    Now that she is retired in Phuket with an American I wonder if she exclusively stains his sheets.

  14. #15865

    Decline.

    It sounds like there is no sign of improvement.

    The last time I went to Tulip it was horrible. If golf is being cited as one of the better ones that's a sad state of affairs.

    It seems like there is to much nostalgia I got over that and left Thailand it used to be great for availability looks and price and good service. I also prefer the Chinese look tall girls or Japaneses are also cuter than Thai. I have had some great service with Chinese hookers so with the main advantage of Thailand being availability and price now gone I am thinking of an alternative base for my trip does anyone have any experience with Vietnam? As I should think the prices are good and I think Viet girls generally look better than Thai anyway.

  15. #15864
    Quote Originally Posted by Goatscrot  [View Original Post]
    Yes, not counting per stroke. Maybe if not counting per stroke we could have a "meters of penis" standard. Every 50 mtrs equals one olympic. That would be the length of an olympic swimming pool. We can talk in olympics of penis.
    This reminds me of the much superior "cost per stroke" metric I introduced more than 13 years ago on another website. To quote a portion of that ground-breaking report, which admittedly is a bit off topic given it pertained to a budget casa in Sao Paulo: "In and out, in and out, with each stroke I could feel pennies of my wealth dissipating (I estimate that over the course of the hour, I may have had 300 or 400 strokes; that works out to about 3 cents a stroke, at today's exchange rate of 1 real = US $0. 33)."

    The good old days.

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