Bangkok Massage Parlors - Except TULIP and ANNIES!

[Frazer]

If you let them tell you a price, it's been my experience that they will always ask for more than the going rate.Everything in Thailand becomes a negotiation if you open that door.

Hi Fon TokWell, that's not been my experience at Tulip & offspring (Mango and Snowwhite) where I have been meticulously explained what the correct prices are whenever I asked for that (e. G. First visit to the shop, a long period absence, new girl.).So, if I am getting it right Mahal's girl tried to round up the bill counting on his apparent lack of experience.As you say this is perfectly normal in most of BKK massages but I would not expect this in a shop run by two former flower girls.Transparence, intended as no bad surprises in terms of what you get and how much you have to pay are one of the main resons for which I've frequented for years these three shops and practically avoided all the others.Nadia and Jane are hopefully reading this.

[Fon Tok]

Hi Mahal: So at Victoria 2000 bht is the new standard rate for FS? Or was it just your girl trying to get more cash? Anyone can comment on this? Thanks

If you let them tell you a price, it's been my experience that they will always ask for more than the going rate. Everything in Thailand becomes a negotiation if you open that door. Best to just frown a little bit, tell her, "Ahh...too much. I usually only pay 1500." If she balks, tell her you just want a massage, then the price will come down.This can become a problem if it alters the flow of the initial encounter.Best to get the price discussion out of the way as quickly as possible, without too much angst, or the session might be less than enjoyable.

[Frazer]

After reading the controversial posts about Victoria I decided to try the place on a Saturday afternoon.<...>then onwards to the bed where she asked me if I wanted full service and that it would be 2000 Baht.

Hi Mahal:So at Victoria 2000 bht is the new standard rate for FS? Or was it just your girl trying to get more cash?Anyone can comment on this?Thanks

[Herodog]

Just thought I would add a link to my report in the Escort reports .. I had a great session with Game from Mango .. see report at http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...ead.php?t=2408Look after her.

[BionicMan]

Yes, you are quite correct. I don't think I'm a real BDSM fetishist at all - the idea of being teased, taunted, and treated a bit cruelly (but in the end sensually) by beautiful 18-25 year old princesses is probably a different designation. I don't like the idea of being whipped or or tied up. If that makes me a dilettante, guilty as charged. But its still quite spicy and fun for a change, and I actually think it is something many men with ordinary taste do share in occasionally. For example, how many of you guys, though normally 'dominant' in the bedroom, have enjoyed having a young pretty sit on your face and grind a bit roughly and demandingly? Or tease you on-again-off again during a hand-job? Or just have a bitchy attitude like an American teen princess?In any case this 'femdom light' can definitely be found in Soapies, though its hit or miss. I doubt that I would find what I'm looking for with some 30+ S&M specialist!

Your wishes, common to many of us, is, with all respect, not BDSM but more a role play.The 30+ BDSM dommie will give also a high degree of safety in the real BDSM.Just as you have to be well aware of what you are doing in case you are the dominant submitting the partner.It is not an easy game...

[Monopoly]

Have never been to a Soapy massage in Bangkok before. But think I'd like to try one. Can anyone please recommend the best ones currently and prices?I have read good reports about Nataree. Can anyone give current prices for farangs.Thanks

[Lordberners]

My understanding on how BDSM passionates people think (and even if I do not practice I have a fairly good knowledge) is that beauty and age is not really a deciding factor on the choice. The practicers are looking at their own feelings and what/how happens to them, not to the image of the provider.Experience is a key player and young age in general is not a sympton of experience.Often it is a matter of psychology and beauty is a secondary element. Maybe age and beauty play a role in the people phantasizing on bdsm, but less on practicer.

Yes, you are quite correct. I don't think I'm a real BDSM fetishist at all - the idea of being teased, taunted, and treated a bit cruelly (but in the end sensually) by beautiful 18-25 year old princesses is probably a different designation. I don't like the idea of being whipped or or tied up. If that makes me a dilettante, guilty as charged. But its still quite spicy and fun for a change, and I actually think it is something many men with ordinary taste do share in occasionally. For example, how many of you guys, though normally 'dominant' in the bedroom, have enjoyed having a young pretty sit on your face and grind a bit roughly and demandingly? Or tease you on-again-off again during a hand-job? Or just have a bitchy attitude like an American teen princess?In any case this 'femdom light' can definitely be found in Soapies, though its hit or miss. I doubt that I would find what I'm looking for with some 30+ S&M specialist!

[BionicMan]

I think many of us with kinkier desires, particularly anything relating to 'female domination' tend to need these actions to be from a very good looking, fairly young woman. It wouldn't make much sense to be humiliated by or servile to an old bag, would it? Maybe some are into that, but I think there are a sizable number of us who need this sort of treatment from a teen to twenty-something beauty that is a facsimile of what we want but cannot get back home.

My understanding on how BDSM passionates people think (and even if I do not practice I have a fairly good knowledge) is that beauty and age is not really a deciding factor on the choice. The practicers are looking at their own feelings and what/how happens to them, not to the image of the provider.Experience is a key player and young age in general is not a sympton of experience.Often it is a matter of psychology and beauty is a secondary element. Maybe age and beauty play a role in the people phantasizing on bdsm, but less on practicer.Them of course, each one his own! lol

[Dan7373]

www.victoriamassagesoi39.comI know this is going to sound like an advertisement, but if you check my other posts, you can see I have enjoyed many great experiences in BKK and this has to be said.I finally had a chance to make it in to see what the new place looked like and have a session with one of the girls. I would strongly recommend against walking from Suk. I took a motorbike taxi and it is quite a way up Soi 39 before getting to the shop. The outside of the shop looks like any other massage shop and walking past you would never guess at the unbelievable things that are taking place upstairs.Anyone who loves nice clean rooms, vip rooms with a bath, SUPERSTAR service from start to finish, beautiful girls, and as much variety as you will get in a two hour session, needs to skip work as soon as possible and head over to this place! It is so much better than anywhere else I have been in so many ways. The room I had (VIP) was nice and big and had a glass enclosed shower / bath plenty big enough for two. Everything was perfectly clean and the aircon had the room cool in no time (until we heated it back up again anyway). The bed was a big, clean bed, not a cot like in some other places. Very firm for any acrobatics that might occur.The girls are all being trained by two of the best in the business. Jane and Nadia must rank among the worlds best for knowing what good service means. In two hours, I was treated to a great warm soapy bath with my lady, followed by to many positions to remember. Many of which were new to me and were delicious. I would guess that if you could name it they could do it! As far as the girls go, there are 6 of them at present, so in a month, you should be able to try them all! I have NEVER gone back to a place two consecutive days and I am booked in for another session tomorrow! Out of 10 this place gets an easy 11! You will not be disappointed.If it were not for the (a little bit remote) location, Victoria would be already fully booked with a waiting list. They are not going to get any walk-in business. But, once word gets out, if the service I got is any indication, they are going to be TOO busy.OK, like I said at the beginning, this sounds just like an advertisement, and in a way it is. This place ROCKS!

I've checked out their website. And it says that all of their ladies are A+, meaning that they will do anal with their guys. Which sounds interesting to me.At most massage places, I never know how free can I be with my hands on the lady's behind, while I'm banging her. And I am a little shy about massaging the lady between her ass-cheeks and touching her sphincter, even when that's what I want to do. But shy like this I won't need to feel with any of the ladies at Victoria Massage. Which is nice to know.

[Dan7373]

I think many of us with kinkier desires, particularly anything relating to 'female domination' tend to need these actions to be from a very good looking, fairly young woman. It wouldn't make much sense to be humiliated by or servile to an old bag, would it? Maybe some are into that, but I think there are a sizable number of us who need this sort of treatment from a teen to twenty-something beauty that is a facsimile of what we want but cannot get back home.I've posted on here looking for recommendations of Soapy girls who can do very mild domination (face-sitting, oral servitude, foot worship, nipple pinching, ball squeezing, mild slapping, choking with the thighs, etc.) very well. I look for girls who are very good looking, slim, and under 25. No intercourse or oral sex required from the girl. At most just a hand-job. I usually look at the 2, 000-3, 000 baht price range, and am willing to tip 500-1, 000 baht. So far my luck has been so so, but I'm not in Thailand all that often and not on a huge budget, so I can't try that many girls.Some have pointed out that Soapy girls are mostly not so proficient at non-standard performances, and this is true, but I think that a few can learn it or take to it, and if one needs pretty girls, Soapies are the way to go in my opinion, as the girls in the bars are generally not pretty enough or not the right type. Has anyone had experience with this type of girl or service? Any recommendations?

A lot of escort ladies specialize in fulfilling fetishes. And many of them know English well, which makes it easy to find common understanding with them. But they are usually more expensive than massage ladies are.I suggest the you e-mail the mamasan (Aey) at Annie's Massage with your request. http://www.anniesbangkok.com/FAQ'sAnnies.htmlAey is good at finding the right massage lady for what the guy wants. And Annie's Massage does have ladies who do fetishes.

[Lordberners]

i had a nice long conversation with an oily lady yesterday who told me that a fairly large percentage of her clientel aren't interested in a massage. or a blow job. or fucking.some of them want to wear her high heel shoes. be punched and bitten. beaten with her high heel shoes. [CodeWord111] in their mouths.

i think many of us with kinkier desires, particularly anything relating to 'female domination' tend to need these actions to be from a very good looking, fairly young woman. it wouldn't make much sense to be humiliated by or servile to an old bag, would it? maybe some are into that, but i think there are a sizable number of us who need this sort of treatment from a teen to twenty-something beauty that is a facsimile of what we want but cannot get back home.i've posted on here looking for recommendations of soapy girls who can do very mild domination (face-sitting, oral servitude, foot worship, nipple pinching, ball squeezing, mild slapping, choking with the thighs, etc.) very well. i look for girls who are very good looking, slim, and under 25. no intercourse or oral sex required from the girl. at most just a hand-job. i usually look at the 2, 000-3, 000 baht price range, and am willing to tip 500-1, 000 baht. so far my luck has been so so, but i'm not in thailand all that often and not on a huge budget, so i can't try that many girls.some have pointed out that soapy girls are mostly not so proficient at non-standard performances, and this is true, but i think that a few can learn it or take to it, and if one needs pretty girls, soapies are the way to go in my opinion, as the girls in the bars are generally not pretty enough or not the right type. has anyone had experience with this type of girl or service? any recommendations?

[Mahal]

Of course you can. Either ask to look at the photo book when you arrive or (better yet) pick one in advance and book her. Phone number and e-mail address for booking is on their website. I've used both - they work fine.I always prefer to book first because you know the when, where and who and that anticipation can build you up before the time arrives. Also booking seems to have a nice effect on the girl too. It shows that you are interested in her particularly and not just randomly picking whoever is available. Could be in for a better experience that way.

Kuratla, thanks for the advice, I like the idea of booking. But just in case I will follow Rocksoff recommendation, get in front of the mirror tonight and practice the magic words!

[Run Mann]

i must be old-fashioned or something.whenever i visit an oily or soap, i get sucked and fucked to exhaustion.i thought that was the norm.but, apparently not.i had a nice long conversation with an oily lady yesterday who told me that a fairly large percentage of her clientel aren't interested in a massage... or a blow job... or fucking.some of them want to wear her high heel shoes.some of them want to be punched and bitten.some of them want to be beaten with her high heel shoes.some of them want her to [CodeWord111] in their mouths.she explained some other things too but my thai wasn't good enough to understand everything.and they pay a lot of money for these things too. 5000 - 10000 baht for her to [CodeWord140] on them.i must be missing something.....

you are missing something because urophilia, domination and cross-dressing (ask marv albert) are common and popular sexual fetishes, comparatively speaking these are pretty mild. i suspect there are many on this site who are into these activities but stay away from said topics because they don?t want to be judged or don't want to expose themselves. some time ago a poster wrote a somewhat coy and vague report about his experiences at the famed mistress midori dungeon which was followed up with several excitable and anticipatory replies from other posters for more information. we all have our own sexual fetishes and luckily there are varying degrees of fetishes so we don?t all have to indulge in the same ones.

[Kuratla]

i must be old-fashioned or something.whenever i visit an oily or soap, i get sucked and fucked to exhaustion.i thought that was the norm.but, apparently not.i had a nice long conversation with an oily lady yesterday who told me that a fairly large percentage of her clientel aren't interested in a massage... or a blow job... or fucking.some of them want to wear her high heel shoes.some of them want to be punched and bitten.some of them want to be beaten with her high heel shoes.some of them want her to [CodeWord111] in their mouths.she explained some other things too but my thai wasn't good enough to understand everything.and they pay a lot of money for these things too. 5000 - 10000 baht for her to [CodeWord140] on them.i must be missing something.....

[Kuratla]

By the way, can you really choose the masseuse at Mango, every time I have been there the receptionist chose for me. I am sure I could have asked for someone in particular but I mean I did not even really get a chance to get a good look at the line up.

Of course you can. Either ask to look at the photo book when you arrive or (better yet) pick one in advance and book her. Phone number and e-mail address for booking is on their website. I've used both - they work fine.I always prefer to book first because you know the when, where and who and that anticipation can build you up before the time arrives. Also booking seems to have a nice effect on the girl too. It shows that you are interested in her particularly and not just randomly picking whoever is available. Could be in for a better experience that way.