Bangkok Massage Parlors - Except TULIP and ANNIES!

[Ken_Apples]

Gents!I have been following the thread looking for the 2010 prices on La Belle and The Lord establishment.As there is reports about farrang taxes implied now, what is the farrang prices at these places?And also - as farrang tax is implied, does that means tipping is included in the price now?Some clarification on this matter would be great.Thanks in advance, Ken Apples.

[Traveler1234]

Can anyone suggest after what time shall one visit the MPs in order to get a good selection of ladies. Are the places fully working in th mornings or the selection of ladies grows at afternoon.Thanks all

Many of us like to go btw 4:30-5:30pm. Most of the girls will start at that time and you get first pickings.

[Member #4698]

1K is just too much in my opinion.

?Discrimination is a sociological term referring to the treatment taken toward or against a person of a certain group that is taken in consideration based on class or category.?I am against organized boycotts on principal since I believe in free markets. It may sound controversial to some, but I think La Belle has every right to charge whatever they want. By the same logic, I have every right not to contract for their services. This 1000bt extra charge based on ethnic origin is too much for me to swallow and I am sure it is too much for the vast majority of readers. I for one will not continue to spend my hard earned dollars in La Belle. There are too many other places that value my patronage.Students of economic discrimination theory know that those firms that practice discrimination in either labor relations (hiring) or customer relations lose their competitive advantage in the long run and are forced to end their discrimation practices or go out of business. It won't bother me if La belle goes out of business. The economic pressure may already be occurring. How many girls where unengaged at 5:30pm? They want to discriminate against us, I say let them! Let?s see how long they stay profitable and in business.

[Pita123]

La Belle has recently introduced Farang surchage (which really means surcharge for all guys that are not East Asian looking). Its 1000 Baht.500 to the girl (Farang cock tax), and500 to the management (Farang discrimination tax).Perhaps they believe management is compensated when girl is away from work with a damaged pussy.The starting price for East Asians is 2200 I believe, and so 3200 Baht up for Farangs.If you (non East Asians) normally tip the girl an extra 500, then you don't need to any more, as she will get it automatically via the surcharge. Normally, Farangs tip better than Asians.

Glad I got in there before they introduced the extra 500. 1K is just too much in my opinion.

[DuffyDuck]

Can anyone suggest after what time shall one visit the MPs in order to get a good selection of ladies. Are the places fully working in th mornings or the selection of ladies grows at afternoon.Thanks all

[Dan7373]

My information from Thai girls is that some Farangs (but not all) are far better at forplay than Thai men. Thai men do not do DATY in general.e.g. A Thai girl that really likes kissing (as much as Brazil girls) and DATY and is slow to come. She says she has no use for Thai men at all. Certain Farangs however are excellent for her.Condoms require lubrication. Lube gel to avoid friction is important even if girl is very wet.

The most effective way to sexually excite a lady is to masturbate her with a well-lubricated hand. Because everyone has a lot more control and skill in his hand for touching and massage than in his tongue, which isn't designed for this kind of thing.And masturbating the lady with a well-lubricated hand is what Asians do a lot more than DATY.I don't think any Thai lady would be stupid enough to say to her farang customer than she likes Asian or Thai men more. Of course she will always say to her farang man that he is a good man in bed, even when this isn't true.As for the use of lubricants, I found from my experience that they are no substitute for good foreplay for the lady. Because water-based lubricants dry out quickly. At best, such lubricants only assist natural lubrication from the lady but they can't substitute for it. And lubrication isn't the only thing good foreplay does for the lady. The lady's pussy expands and changes shape to accommodate sex, when the lady gets sexually excited. And that's not something any artificial lubricant can help the lady with.

[M P Lurker]

But I can see why some massage places might want to discourage farangs from coming to their place. A lot of farangs aren't very good at foreplaying the ladies and preparing them for the fuck. Which can result in sex-injuries for the ladies due to excessive friction between a poorly lubricated condom and the lady's dry, unexcited pussy. And I'm not joking here. I'm ashamed to say that I've been guilty of some poor foreplay like that which has led to condom-related sex-injuries for the lady. I know this for sure because I've staid with my lady long enough to know.

My information from Thai girls is that some Farangs (but not all) are far better at forplay than Thai men. Thai men do not do DATY in general.e.g. A Thai girl that really likes kissing (as much as Brazil girls) and DATY and is slow to come. She says she has no use for Thai men at all. Certain Farangs however are excellent for her.Condoms require lubrication. Lube gel to avoid friction is important even if girl is very wet.

[Dan7373]

Well of course. Now that Farang surcharge has gone up to 1K its going to reduce Farang customers. I think they are crazy to do this without enough business to keep all the girls busy. But this is LOS. Who can fathom?I believe cheapest girls are 2200 but 1K extra for farangs.

I wouldn't go to a massage place with a farang surcharge, unless they have a lady I'd really like to get acquainted with in the private room. But I can see why some massage places might want to discourage farangs from coming to their place. A lot of farangs aren't very good at foreplaying the ladies and preparing them for the fuck. Which can result in sex-injuries for the ladies due to excessive friction between a poorly lubricated condom and the lady's dry, unexcited pussy. And I'm not joking here. I'm ashamed to say that I've been guilty of some poor foreplay like that which has led to condom-related sex-injuries for the lady. I know this for sure because I've staid with my lady long enough to know. Perhaps Asian, non-farang customers have smaller dicks. Or more likely, they might be better at foreplaying the lady before having sex with her. And that's why they are more welcome at massage places than farang customers are.It doesn't take a genius to understand that the lady needs good foreplay too and not just the guy. But a lot of farang customers simply have a poor attitude towards the ladies. They think that since they are paying the lady. Then it's up to the lady to please them. And they don't care to do much for the lady.Of course, there is nothing to stop the lady from masturbating herself to prepare herself for the guy. But that's pretty hard to do, when the farang demands undivided attention from the lady for his own pleasure. And a lot of massage ladies are either too shy to masturbate themselves in front of the guy, or they don't understand well enough that this is a good way to avoid condom-related sex-injuries.

[Sonic Bam]

Is there any good oily that stays open even after midnight?

Dream Heaven Massage just down Soi 33 is open until 02:00. You can get take-out from there as well. www.dhm33.com

[M P Lurker]

Do you think the extra fee is scaring off customers? From your(?) and other reports, this seems like a higher class MP. It would be a shame for greed to kill a good thing.Slim

Well of course. Now that Farang surcharge has gone up to 1K its going to reduce Farang customers. I think they are crazy to do this without enough business to keep all the girls busy. But this is LOS. Who can fathom?I believe cheapest girls are 2200 but 1K extra for farangs.

[Ralph Kramden]

If 50% are doable, or about 15, then that is not a bad deal in my opinion. Thanks to MPL's intelligence gathering we know your real price is 2700 plus a 500 tip. LaBelle's facilities are among the best available. That compares favorably to other MPs.

[Mart Cham]

It's not only about greed. Who's willing to pay up to 40% more than other customers because of their ethnic background?Besides, La Belle is not known to be a place where service is consistent. I'd gladly pay 2K for a lottery ticket but 4-5K? I don't think so...

Sorry Slim, I've just realised that you were probably referring to La Belle owners' greed. My bad.

[Mart Cham]

Do you think the extra fee is scaring off customers? From your(?) and other reports, this seems like a higher class MP. It would be a shame for greed to kill a good thing.Slim

It's not only about greed. Who's willing to pay up to 40% more than other customers because of their ethnic background?Besides, La Belle is not known to be a place where service is consistent. I'd gladly pay 2K for a lottery ticket but 4-5K? I don't think so...

[Nvslim]

Today at 5.30PM La Belle had about 30 girls available and seemingly almost no customers. I've rarely seen such a good line up. I reckon 50% were doable.Still hard to reccomend for Farangs due to price policy but good for guys of east Asian appearance or for guys where price is not a major concern.

Do you think the extra fee is scaring off customers? From your(?) and other reports, this seems like a higher class MP. It would be a shame for greed to kill a good thing.Slim

[M P Lurker]

Today at 5.30PM La Belle had about 30 girls available and seemingly almost no customers. I've rarely seen such a good line up. I reckon 50% were doable.Still hard to reccomend for Farangs due to price policy but good for guys of east Asian appearance or for guys where price is not a major concern.