Bangkok Massage Parlors - Except TULIP and ANNIES!

[NicFrenchy]

It's true that officially the girl has no control over whom the man chooses. But I can tell you from my own experience that once I've been with one lady at a massage parlor. Then for some unknown reason I don't feel comfortable choosing any other lady there the next day. And this seems to be true for many other guys too. Because as you've said in your earlier post, guys often end up having only one favorite lady at a massage parlor. And if they want to have another lady, then they go to another massage parlor.

Look, I understand that the GFE illusion is good to have (I like it to) but Honesty never hurt anyone.I have a Fav in Almost ALL MP's I frequent but I do not always take them, I also take their fellow Masseuses. I have yet to meet a girl that will be angry or give me a bad experience as a result of my Butterflying.If anything, as Canyon so adequately put it: the experience will be better.I will give you an example: AKANE. This is the worst place to be butterflying because there is no book and all the girls are "Live" in front of you.I have my Fav in each Branch but that does not stop me from taking or trying other girls. I do not ignore the ladies I have been with, in fact, they come to me, sit and joke while I wait for the girl I picked to lock my valuables and shoes.These girls know that by being angry, they will end up no longer being chosen. A while ago, Miss MIKI showed me attitude so I completely stopped talking to her. When at Akane Chidlom, I always say something nice to all the ladies (that's the French "plus" hahaha, ok I was joking) but I always do as if MIKI isn't there. One day she tried to re-gain my trust by sitting beside me and smiling but I did not do anything, just smile back. I really wanted to turn my back to her but I did not want her to lose face in front of the other girls (even though I am sure that when I am gone she bad talks about me to the others).Just be cool, admit you like Variety and the girls will respect you for being honest. They will also be happy that you still choose them. My Fav at Luxury usually tells me all the Gossip about the other girls, which customers have the smallest cock, which girl have her period, who is popular and who is not very nice. Surprisingly, she said that the smallest dick she has seen was that of a white man. She said it was very small and very thin (so thin that the Thai size condom was even too large).Anyhow, it is a hobby for us and a business for them.Now all these talks got me excited! I will go to Akane today and use my 10 cards for a FREE Massage

[M P Lurker]

Just because some rules and norms are left unsaid and unwritten doesn't mean these rules don't exist in people's minds. All you have to do is look at how people are behaving, and you will see some evidence that these rules exist....I think that starting out with several ladies at once on an equal basis is a good way to prevent inadvertent commitment to one lady only. Because in such a situation it's not clear to anyone (including yourself) to which lady you are supposed to belong. You can't feel any pressure to commit yourself to one lady only. Because with several ladies, the pressures are conflicting. They cancel each other out. And it doesn't really matter where the pressure to commit comes from, whether it's from within your own mind or from the girls.

Often we see only one lady, as we couldn't envisage anyone else would be better, and repeats lead to improved GFE. Its much easier with girls you know well.I can accept that you feel you want to butterfly but your pschological programming is making you feel guilty about it. But be assured that most others are not feeling so guilty about it as you. And the girl is thinking about it far less than you too.But sure, when I go to TL2 to visit "T", I don't want "B" to see me as she might be disappointed I chose another.But its not the end of the world if she does see me or find out. Girls have to get used to this. If next time I see "B", she might ask me how "T" was. I might answer that actually "T" sucks and I made a bad mistake in choosing her. I am probably not going to say "T was better then you". LOLMany Thai men have a wife and cannot afford a committment to another girl, so that is why they always change girls, every time. They don't want to think about any particular girl.

[M P Lurker]

Can anyone help me here? I looked into CP2 and look in is all I did. Leaving somewhat confused about the set up and system. Can anyone explain why the girls have letters before their numbers. Example: P121, or M115. This is more out of interest than necessity.Anyone have some good reports on this place?

CP2 has declined from its heyday some 15 years ago, but is still going.Girls are in 3 or 4 sections. The full section on the right with older ladies is known as "phaen boraan" Thai Traditional Massage provided in addition to soapy bath, but price is fully inclusive of sex too.Moving left, the next section "Daraa" is "superstars" typically younger girls with no massage ability to speak of.Bath and sex.There may be a special row at the top of girls that do not work every day (casual), that have a slightly different price.Moving to the far left, the bigger girls section "Tolaa" does "body slide massage" on an inflated matress.There may be some sideline girls outside the main aquarium, but probably not.Unfortunately I don't remember which letters used for which section.I am well known to little cheer-woman "Anne".Places I would prefer to go to: Infinity JC, Tarawadee, Emmanuelle, Utopia, Poseidon, CopaCabana, Selene, Nataree, Longbeach, Vic Secret, IDA, Sao Botan

[Andy Abs]

Can anyone help me here? I looked into CP2 and look in is all I did. Leaving somewhat confused about the set up and system. Can anyone explain why the girls have letters before their numbers. Example: P121, or M115. This is more out of interest than necessity.Anyone have some good reports on this place?

[Dan7373]

This phenomenon is more likely to occur at bars and after have been with same lady more than once. Girls are scared of being accused of trying to steal another girls customer.But at Sopaies, for example, the girl has no control at all over who the man chooses. To say that she will not give a GFE simply because you have been with a different girl before seems exaggerated. To start with she is not even likely to know who you have been with before....

It's true that officially the girl has no control over whom the man chooses. But I can tell you from my own experience that once I've been with one lady at a massage parlor. Then for some unknown reason I don't feel comfortable choosing any other lady there the next day. And this seems to be true for many other guys too. Because as you've said in your earlier post, guys often end up having only one favorite lady at a massage parlor. And if they want to have another lady, then they go to another massage parlor.Somehow for one reason or another, many regular guys end up in a committed relationship with one lady only at a massage parlor. Even though these guys usually want to have other ladies too. Just because some rules and norms are left unsaid and unwritten doesn't mean these rules don't exist in people's minds. All you have to do is look at how people are behaving, and you will see some evidence that these rules exist.It's possible that the inclination to commit might be in the mind-set of the man. And the ladies might not be entirely responsible for what's going on. But regardless of the reason why commitment happens. The fact is that it does happen. And there are ways to prevent and avoid such commitment for guys who wish to butterfly. I think that starting out with several ladies at once on an equal basis is a good way to prevent inadvertent commitment to one lady only. Because in such a situation it's not clear to anyone (including yourself) to which lady you are supposed to belong. You can't feel any pressure to commit yourself to one lady only. Because with several ladies, the pressures are conflicting. They cancel each other out. And it doesn't really matter where the pressure to commit comes from, whether it's from within your own mind or from the girls.Perhaps The Eden Club of Bangkok has solved this problem of loosing customers to other massage places by insisting that all of their customers take out at least two ladies at the same time. Such an arrangement probably makes the guys feel a lot more comfortable about coming back there again and again every day and butterflying there among as many ladies as they like.

[M P Lurker]

Perhaps the problem is that these ladies have an unspoken rule among themselves that once a guy goes with one of them. Then he is her man. And all the others shouldn't do anything to attract him, or 'steal' him from her. Which means that you may choose to go with some other lady. But this other lady probably won't give you the GFE experience.

This phenomenon is more likely to occur at bars and after have been with same lady more than once. Girls are scared of being accused of trying to steal another girls customer.But at Sopaies, for example, the girl has no control at all over who the man chooses. To say that she will not give a GFE simply because you have been with a different girl before seems exaggerated. To start with she is not even likely to know who you have been with before.With some girls, you do get a better experience with them once you become their regular, but not quite as good the first time.I don't believe booking several girls, sight unseen is really going to achieve anything special at all. Its just strange behaviour. Anyway if you like the first one too much you might have to cancel the other bookings.Anyway you are free to do whatever you want but you must know by now the majority of us don't understand.I remember guys saying that they go to Nataree many times and always pick a different girl, no matter how good she was. Each to their own.Try not to assume you can fathom the Thai girls' psychology. Its really too hard. Nothing wrong with trying I suppose.

[Dan7373]

....The reality is that a girl will feel she is your very special favourite after you see her every time unwaveringly, and often.Many of us only take take one girl per venue to achieve this. I have a favourite girl at each of my favourite MPs.Plenty of gossiping occurs at MPs so keeping your butterflying secret doesn't work well.Another suggestion for butterflys. Take two (or three) girls at a time in order to suss them out quicker. At my favourite bar I usually take two, and still get a good experience Its like I have several favourites there that are friends of each other.

The problem with having only one favorite lady at each massage place is that quite often there are several good-looking ladies at the same massage place. And once you see the other good-looking ladies. Then it's hard to get them out of your mind and go to some other massage place instead.The thing is that these ladies don't really expect their men to be faithful to them. And they certainly aren't faithful to their men either. They butterfly all the time with many guys. Perhaps the problem is that these ladies have an unspoken rule among themselves that once a guy goes with one of them. Then he is her man. And all the others shouldn't do anything to attract him, or 'steal' him from her. Which means that you may choose to go with some other lady. But this other lady probably won't give you the GFE experience.And the way for a man to avoid being caught up in this unspoken code of honor is to make equal commitments to several ladies at once. So that none of them can legitimately claim you as her man.Taking out two or three ladies at once is certainly one way to butterfly without disturbing the social order among the ladies and making everyone feel uncomfortable with you. And perhaps another way is to make appointments for different days with several ladies at once, before you meet any one of them.As long as you keep up simultaneous commitments to at least two ladies at once. Then no one lady can lay her claim on you. And you can butterfly among the ladies without making these ladies feel uncomfortable with each other and with you.

[Dan7373]

You lost me, Are we still talking about Thai hookers or have we moved to Girlfriends?

Many guys, including myself, prefer to be with a lady who is both of the above. Just being with a hooker without any feelings and without the GFE experience quite often isn't much fun. It's almost like masturbating yourself at home. Or doing it with a doll.But being with a girlfriend who isn't that receptive to wild sex with you whenever you feel like it quite often isn't much fun either.The most fun you can have is with a lady who bends over for you like a hooker whenever you feel like it, and who is nice to you like your girlfriend at the same time.

[M P Lurker]

Your GFE with the lady will never be any good, unless you give her the BFE. This kind of experience you can get only when it's mutual for both you and the lady.

Well Dan, I see you want to have your cake and eat it too.You want to butterfly but you want to pretend each girl at the same venue is your very special favourite so you get very best GFE.And so are coming up with the most devious plans in order to do this. The reality is that a girl will feel she is your very special favourite after you see her every time unwaveringly, and often.Many of us only take take one girl per venue to achieve this. I have a favourite girl at each of my favourite MPs.Plenty of gossiping occurs at MPs so keeping your butterflying secret doesn't work well.Another suggestion for butterflys. Take two (or three) girls at a time in order to suss them out quicker. At my favourite bar I usually take two, and still get a good experience Its like I have several favourites there that are friends of each other.

[Member #3428]

Question--- does King and I offer couples massages?? I thought it might be something different to do for and evenings "enjoyment" I walk by the place all the time, but have never stopped.Thanks

Sorry, can't recall and never considered it at King and I, we do a couple massage at Thai Asia Herbal on Soi 24 which is nice and there is time for extra activities with your mate...

[Lord Farquard]

) However King and I still seems to be one of my favorites on Soi 12. .

Question--- does King and I offer couples massages?? I thought it might be something different to do for and evenings "enjoyment" I walk by the place all the time, but have never stopped.Thanks

[NicFrenchy]

You can do it directly, honestly, and openly in front of everyone. And make some of the ladies you are with feel uncomfortable and embarrassed as a result. Or you can try to be a gentleman and butterfly in a way that doesn't make any of the ladies doubt themselves and perhaps loose their face in front of others.

You lost me, Are we still talking about Thai hookers or have we moved to Girlfriends?

[Member #3428]

The name is Kan Ya Tip Spa, all the way down Sukh soi 22. At the last corner towards soi 24, it is on the inner (left towards soi 24) side right after the corner.

I stay with the TGF almost across the street from this place and this is a legit place, been there a few times. But they are not one of my top favorites. Since we live in this area we've visited most places on soi 22 / 24. For a good regular massage (legit) I like Siri across from Queen's Park on soi 22. However King and I still seems to be one of my favorites on Soi 12. Along with Hattayari (spelling is way off) or something like that down the side soi by Angels before Queens Park is a legit Thai Massage place that is very good also. Giotto turned me onto that one a while back. Thai Herbal on Soi 24 is also one that ranks up there and I think a few others mentioned them too.

[Dan7373]

For Thai men, big butterfly is the norm. Many never like to go with same girl twice in a row.Your logic is always beyond me and girls don't work by logical thinking anyway.When you are choosing a girl at an MP, she doesn't have hold of your dick. Its normal to butterfly at MPs.

I agree that vast majority of men like to butterfly, including Thai men and farang men. But at the same time, vast majority of women don't like to see their men butterfly.And there are basically two ways you can butterfly. You can do it directly, honestly, and openly in front of everyone. And make some of the ladies you are with feel uncomfortable and embarrassed as a result. Or you can try to be a gentleman and butterfly in a way that doesn't make any of the ladies doubt themselves and perhaps loose their face in front of others.This is not so much about logic. As it is about how much of a gentleman you want to be with the ladies. Most guys like to have the GFE experience with their ladies. And the best way to get that GFE experience is by giving the lady the BFE (boyfriend experience).Your GFE with the lady will never be any good, unless you give her the BFE. This kind of experience you can get only when it's mutual for both you and the lady.

[NicFrenchy]

When you are choosing a girl at an MP, she doesn't have hold of your dick. Its normal to butterfly at MPs.

Obviously. As far as I am concerned, I am always honest and tell the girls that I have Giks and that I go to other MPs: Most girls always ask me if I go to other places when they know I work in Thailand (they smell the potential regular).For me, it's just business, no heart. The girl can be cute, fuck like a pornstar, I will be back but not involved emotionally. A great GFE is always good but let's not kid ourselves, the lady is not a GF and is after our cash.No lady has reacted badly when I told them I go to other places, they just ask me to return adn see them, that's all.