Bangkok Massage Parlors - Except TULIP and ANNIES!

[Mr Benn]

Both times I chose a girl that was said to be A+ and both times I've been rejected when I wanted to fuck their ass. First time was with Ae a few years ago, she had a not beautiful belly and I had a not very good time with her.

Ae was a feisty one who liked to scratch and bite. I avoided her for that reason. Her customers probably had to tell their wives that they'd been in a car wreck.

I think I read it here that Ae (who has now departed) was responsible for the introduction of the hated butt-penalty. She was said to have imposed it on her own customers unilaterally and, in the ensuing argument with the shop boss, the other girls backed her up. The rest is history. Can anyone confirm the truth of that?

[Franciscass]

I am somewhat amused when I read members describing a session with a working girl as a real "GFE". Come on, it's not. At best it's a good simulation and sometimes sadly nothing more than a bad affectation. Don't get me wrong I'm just as big a chump as anybody else, I love the kissing and the cuddling but in no way do I believe its anything other than a skill set some girls have chosen as their style of service. On the other hand PSE is real. Notwithstanding the sometimes less than honest noisy oh fuck me fuck me harder moans, the ass pounding, the face fucking, the CIM swallowing multiple positional hard core full on sex is not an imaginary interpretation of what's happening, it is happening. But you know after all that is said and done give me a nice sweet smiling friendly attractive young lady who combines a slow sensual massage with the ubiquitous "GFE" who tells me after a kiss on the cheek and holding my hand on the way out you come see me again OK na. Is there some point to this post I hear you ask? Not really just my two cents.

[Mr Benn]

I was far from impressed by service (no A+ requested) at Mango last two times I went. Momo was outright bad with a poor attitude, and Vanda was a lovely person and made an acceptable effort, but her service was still below average.

Thanks for the info on Momo and Vanda. I can now put Vanda on my to-do list. She looks pretty in the line-up but I had skipped over her based on a hunch that she might be a bit of a princess. That she is actually a "lovely person" is all I need to know to pull the trigger. I enjoy showing inexperienced pretty girls the ropes so long as they are willing to let me. Does she have any baby damage?

Happily, Momo has already departed. So too has Get. Looking at some old photos, I was surprised to see that Get used to be attractive. She looked so fat and faded recently that I mistook her for the cleaning lady. Maybe she will pop up again in Tulip one day.

[GuyBrusg1957]

Is DokiDoki the best high end porn star quality massage in Bangkok is that really my only option?

[Whoreman]

Second time was recently with Sara, she is bigger and darker than I thought, I went to see her just because of A+ and I was denied access to it. To her credit she offered me to come back the next day and said she would allow me to fuck her ass but I wanted to do it in the first session.

You need to pay the 500 baht A+ surcharge in advance at Mango.

[Crocodilexp]

How come the two times I've been in Mango I've been deceived both by the looks and by the service provided by these two girls?

Both times I chose a girl that was said to be A+ and both times I've been rejected when I wanted to fuck their ass.

If you intend to do A+, ask for it specifically during the lineup (in front of everyone), before choosing the girl. Do not leave any ambiguity, do not simply assume she'll do it if listed on the website or you heard it from another punter or it's shop policy. I never had a girl refuse A+ if she confirmed she'd do it right before I picked her.

On the other hand, several times I just assumed A+ and didn't specifically confirm, the girls tried to refuse, and this included a regular at SW I've done A+ with before (I reminded her of this and she changed her mind, but it just wasn't nice to be denied what you know is available).

I generally dislike discussing specific services beforehand (it's usually pointless, and I feel it's rude), but A+ is an exception.

All this said, I was far from impressed by service (no A+ requested) at Mango last two times I went. Momo was outright bad with a poor attitude, and Vanda was a lovely person and made an acceptable effort, but her service was still below average.

[Mr Benn]

"Awful results plain to see" means what. I can't guess.

My bad. I neglected to include an important detail so I added a further comment to clarify what I actually meant. Unfortunately, however, my comments are subject to a 12 hour moderation delay so they tend to appear a day late. They also get published towards the bottom of the page and, therefore, go largely unread. Neither can I amend anything. Such are the hindrances of Regular Membership.

By the time you read this comment, the answer you require will have appeared on this thread before you asked the question. People will think that you went blind. I have submitted this comment to reassure them that you didn't.

[Syzygies]

The cooperative nature of the Thai workplace is a national characteristic but competition does occur; particularly over money and status. Nevertheless, it takes a very tough-minded boss to side with the high-performing girls against the jealous herd. In Tulip, the boss is evidently not up to the challenge and the awful results are plain for all to see. Your examples suggest that Boss and Addict are afflicted with similar management weaknesses. I suspect that the success of shops like Snow White and Mango in nurturing talent is down to untypical management practices. What other explanation could there be?

It is not easy for me to understand what you are getting at in the differences in culture between various MP shops, and what you believe the results are.

"Awful results plain to see" means what. I can't guess.

Certainly the personalities of girls and mamasans vary widely in MPs and bars. Yes a very popular girl can create jealousies even if she tries to help others get work. You can always find the rumour the girl must do BBFS, otherwise why is she so popular even she denies it and is against the rules.

Can any shop with a lot of girls have only the nicest personalities? Must be tough. I was aware of one of my bargirls having fights with other bargirls, even she seemed nice enough to me. I could not tell who was at fault of course, but suspected my girl could be a bit bitchy.

If a customer at Tulip does not choose a girl, he will get assigned to the next girl in line, but we would never stand for that. Seeing Yok in leotard at Tulip on my first visit (that I remember), I could not go past her, and probably did not even check the full line up. Was very hard to change to any other girl after that.

Some girls in an MP can remain somewhat aloof, not wanting to get involved in a lot of highly personal gossip or provide any details of their life to other girls (there is a danger), and then possibly not have any really close friends at the MP. They can be there purely to work. A good boss would surely try to prevent jealousies between girls, but it cannot be helped that some girls will have extra good looks or service or both.

Thais are very nosey by nature for the most part, and do like to ask questions that should not be asked of others. At some times girls will catch STDs for sure, especially the bare backers, and I don't know to what extend these things become well known by others. Maybe they nearly all catch one sooner or later.

When I went to a Tulip girl's birthday dinner once, the whole Tulip crew of girls seemed like a friendly group, but I could not tell if any deep resentments were brewing. I generally agree with Goat's view of the cooperation. Girls that do very well can have too much business and would like to see their friends doing well also. Girls have recommended other girls for me at times. Some of my regulars seemed to have lovely personalities and wishing well for other girls. Coping with awful customers could have been the biggest problems they faced, or not enough customers.

I would say an MP shop could be partially spoiled by having a real dickhead manager, however I have always tried to ignore these things. If some dickhead Farang guy was Managing BJ shop, I could just ignore him mostly. I never tried to get close to any management at all. Best to maintain a distance. Even if Dr. BJ was a nice guy, I would not know, because did not choose to socialise at all.

I have been to Boss massage quite a number of times in the past. I have no lingering memories of the management with which to comment. Definitely way in front of the Jap guy at Can Cam though, in being easy to deal with. All my girls left at some point, which could have been a comment on not a happy shop, however they did not tell me why that I recall. High competition between girls is possible. Pin told me she simply made more money on Soi 4 (don't know if that was the real story). Competition wcould be tougher in Boss and bitchy girls is possible. 2nd time with her was not that good, service had declined and became a bit stiff legged.

[Syzygies]

Performance at SW and Mango is nowhere near where it was when the shops opened. The only shop that has been able to maintain is Tulip. When SW and Mango opened all gals were required to do everything. Opting out of A+ was not an option.

Did June at SW do anal in her early SW days? I would not know as did not ask for it, but I had the feeling she would not have been that keen on it at least.

[Mr Benn]

Performance at SW and Mango is nowhere near where it was when the shops opened. The only shop that has been able to maintain is Tulip. When SW and Mango opened all gals were required to do everything. Opting out of A+ was not an option.

In Tulip, the culture of bullying targets the pretty girls; not the high performers. I didn't mention that important detail in my previous post. That is why "the awful results are plain for all to see". Generally, I agree that the shop has maintained its performance standards but there is at least one confirmed dud in the line-up. Her name is Janet. She was my final punt there.

The challenging looks of the Tulip line-up can only be justified by a cast-iron guarantee that all of them will perform. When you take a pretty girl in another shop and she turns out to be a dud, you still have the consolation of having shagged a pretty girl. When you encounter a dud in Tulip, there is no crumb of comfort to be had. A wank would be more rewarding.

I agree that performance standards have slipped at both Snow White and Mango in recent years but I'm still having a great time in both of those venues with carefully selected girls and a new willingness on my part to try out girls who don't have the body of a fashion model.

[Goatscrot]

The cooperative nature of the Thai workplace is a national characteristic but competition does occur; particularly over money and status. Nevertheless, it takes a very tough-minded boss to side with the high-performing girls against the jealous herd. In Tulip, the boss is evidently not up to the challenge and the awful results are plain for all to see. Your examples suggest that Boss and Addict are afflicted with similar management weaknesses. I suspect that the success of shops like Snow White and Mango in nurturing talent is down to untypical management practices. What other explanation could there be?

Performance at SW and Mango is nowhere near where it was when the shops opened. The only shop that has been able to maintain is Tulip. When SW and Mango opened all gals were required to do everything. Opting out of A+ was not an option.

[Whoreman]

One problem I have had with DD is no-availabilty of rooms. Kiss told me that they only have 8 room (though their rooms extremely big), and 2-3 room's AC is not working. Which meNs, every time I try to book, mamsan says that room is not available. This is little annoying.

P.S.: Last I tried DD was a month ago, so maybe AC problem is solved by now.

This is the thing. Some new or newish places like Doki Doki and Momo are doing well, other places not so well. Some posters are making it sound like there's been an 80% drop in customers but I go to the oilies once or twice a week and haven't noticed anything different. It's normal for the low season to be a bit quieter. The shops seem to be managing to recruit new girls too, just none that have both the looks and service level to be a superstar.

[Ricky81]

I got lucky for the choice and had a great experience at Doki Doki (not trying for a porn star). The girl was very skilled in making the Nuru slide blissful. I could see in the line up she had a model like body (pity about the bolt-ONS a bit much). That experience alleviated the pain of the price greatly. Ha ha. Not worth trying to save small change by taking only 60 minutes IMHO. Enjoy at leisurely pace.

https://dokidokibangkok.com/girls/

A pity the top of faces are cut off but the Nadia pic with small waist is accurate. Others may prefer a more meaty girl for body slide, but I was very happy. My pal recommends Sofia too (for slim girls) and he also tried Naomi (good service). I am suspecting the girls are well trained.

Can't say I heard any bad reports as yet. Guys very hard to please and wanting porno stars may not even be willing to pay the Doki Doki prices.

The rooms are good I guess they are making every effort to run the place well, tweeting the girls attending is excellent service really. You can't see many shops making the same effort levels, or is this wishful thinking?

How would I improve the place? Well if all girls presented to the line up naked, that would be perfect. Just Kidding. :-) I can go elsewhere to see a line of pussies.

I took Olivia in my previous exp, not good, actual she is 40+ lady, less enthu and no licking, I don't felt like doing her too, in that case Pam was good.

[Mr Benn]

Guess I would disagree with this statement. Thais are cooperative for the most part, not competitive. Gals that perform at a higher level than the shop standard are often shunned by the rest of the staff as they will tend to get more bookings. Great example of this is Pin who used to work at Boss but now plies her trade on Soi 4. She was getting 4 to 5 customers as day as she was the only true PSE and A+ gal in the shop. The other gals could not stand her because she had so many regulars. The mamansan even turned on her at one point and tried to steer customers away from her. Sandy at Addict is another one who was not liked by the other gals because she was too busy. Instead of upping their game, the other gals expect the performers to lower their game to the median level of the shop. I would contend that a superstar shows up to work the first day with certain qualities and a certain affinity for sex. They tend to like sex, enjoy seeing men getting off, are not "cum-phobic," and posses all the qualities and desire to develop a great skill set. The PSE shops used to do a very good job of recruiting these gals and got some lookers as well. Conventional Western economic wisdom would tell you that as more and more shops opened, performance standards would increase as competition did, but the exact opposite happened. Gals who were better looking drifted to shops where less was expected of them, and in order to keep a few so-so lookers the PSE shops lowered their standards and some instituted a 500 Baht "butt penalty" as well. Back in the day Tulip, Snow, Mango, Cherry, and Victoria were all girls do everything, no exceptions. Not the case now.

The cooperative nature of the Thai workplace is a national characteristic but competition does occur; particularly over money and status. Nevertheless, it takes a very tough-minded boss to side with the high-performing girls against the jealous herd. In Tulip, the boss is evidently not up to the challenge and the awful results are plain for all to see. Your examples suggest that Boss and Addict are afflicted with similar management weaknesses. I suspect that the success of shops like Snow White and Mango in nurturing talent is down to untypical management practices. What other explanation could there be?

[Mr Benn]

Very true, why some members don't share details can be puzzling.

There is however one situation I understand. It's when a new girl arrives on the scene who is head and shoulders above the norm. She is attractive, young, friendly, eager and happy to please, not just open to direction but hungry to learn how to kiss and how to use her body to give good head and perform in different positions.

Some punters I would describe as mongering Svengalis prefer to keep this find to themselves knowing three to 6 months after becoming popular and doing 5 sessions a day she will no longer be that same sweet girl that gave you that amazing experience.

It's not that she has entirely changed but its human nature to become blas doing the same thing day in day out, it becomes just another day at the office quickly forgotten. A good example of this is Kiss at Doki Doki. She is still a sweet kid, you can have a good time but the magic has gone.

On a different note Mr be. If Mango don't have a professional PR outfit touting their shop they could do worse than hiring you on say a free shag or two a week retainer.

When a pretty new massage girl experiences an unexpected arousal and rewards your efforts with a satisfying ride and a rare backdoor pass, she is obviously a keeper. No one shares a secret that sweet. Serving her up on a plate to the cold-eyed anal plunderers lurking around this forum could easily lead to o-ring failure and the burnout of her fast-rising career. Best to hold off until she has developed the skills necessary to welcome that prospect with open cheeks.

Of course, this scenario is an edge-case. Almost a black swan event. Striking gold in a farang-friendly Bangkok massage shop happens to me perhaps once every couple of years. I genuinely believe that 99% of punts can be reported here without breaching the girl's trust or rendering her unavailable. Every girl is unique and we punters have different tastes. At its best, the ISG is a matchmaking service that saves everyone time, effort and money.

Some guys need a lover while others want to act out porn scenes. Some pop in for a quickie on the pretext that they forgot to lock the car while their wife shops at the Emporium. Some poor buggers rely on working girls to support their self esteem and they can't handle a bad session. Interestingly, however, I'm reliably informed that most guys just lie there like a log and wait for the girl to perform her magic.

Thanks for sharing your story about Kiss at Doki Doki. Fresh, sweet girls have a special appeal that is strictly time-limited. I'm very partial to them myself. Time moves on, unfortunately, but Kiss might now be a good recommendation for those guys who just want to lie there like a log. The old Kiss may now be gone but those memories live on. I suspect that, like me, you also enjoy the hunt for fresh pussy. We make our own luck.

Not all go the way of Kiss, however. When a sweet girl slowly evolves into a no-holes-barred superstar, getting in on the ground floor can win you the golden ticket. Nothing beats a PSE delivered with genuine affection. I've ridden that wave on a number of occasions. Who wouldn't want to face-fuck Mary Poppins?

Shops like Snow White and Mango exist purely to meet the needs foreign men like ourselves. Business is slow at the moment so, unless we pull our collective finger out and post some girl reports, they may go the way of the much-missed Bongkot. I also passed Bamboo in the early evening last Saturday and the lights were off.

Adventurous farang gentlemen with a busy life and only 2 hours a week to devote to this hobby don't have many alternative venues to fall back on.

For me, overdecorated tourist-traps like Club 102 are not an acceptable substitute and neither are the Thai venues. Faced with anything larger than an acorn, the average soapy girl reacts like King Dong is about to split them in half. As for the Japanese places, I'm simply not interested in sitting on some preposterous little stool while some pig-tailed manga girl tickles my bum with a sponge for 10 minutes before handing me a cup of green tea. Frankly, she can shove it up her virgin ass along with the bowl, caddy, scoop, whisk and tastefully simple flower arrangement.

Finally, your suggestion that Mango should offer me free shags be their publicist is a terrific idea. I've been scanning the situations vacant column in the Bangkok Post for an opportunity like this for over 20 years. I trust that you will put in a good word for me. Just tell them that Snow White's people are already talking to my people and that they need to act quickly.

How come the two times I've been in Mango I've been deceived both by the looks and by the service provided by these two girls?

Both times I chose a girl that was said to be A+ and both times I've been rejected when I wanted to fuck their ass.

Thanks for sharing your stories about Ae and Sara. I should have made it clear that my unqualified praise for Mango related to how the shop operated until about 2014, or whenever it was that they introduced the butt-penalty. These days, I would grade it as improving.