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  1. #18491
    Quote Originally Posted by Crocodilexp  [View Original Post]
    If you intend to do A+, ask for it specifically during the lineup (in front of everyone), before choosing the girl. Do not leave any ambiguity, do not simply assume she'll do it if listed on the website or you heard it from another punter or it's shop policy. I never had a girl refuse A+ if she confirmed she'd do it right before I picked her.
    Tangmo and Meiji in Snow White both claimed to be A+ but then pulled the 'too biggy biggy' scam in the room. I don't know if other girls are doing the same thing there.

  2. #18490
    Quote Originally Posted by Gargano19  [View Original Post]
    One problem I have had with DD is no-availabilty of rooms. Kiss told me that they only have 8 room (though their rooms extremely big), and 2-3 room's AC is not working. Which meNs, every time I try to book, mamsan says that room is not available. This is little annoying.

    P.S.: Last I tried DD was a month ago, so maybe AC problem is solved by now.
    DD'S Twitter's post listed 23 girls available today (Tuesday). Assuming at times all 8 rooms occupied and allowing for some shift changes it still means customers being turned away while 10 or more girls are available.

  3. #18489
    Quote Originally Posted by Paolo99  [View Original Post]
    Both times I chose a girl that was said to be A+ and both times I've been rejected when I wanted to fuck their ass. First time was with Ae a few years ago, she had a not beautiful belly and I had a not very good time with her.
    Ae was a feisty one who liked to scratch and bite. I avoided her for that reason. Her customers probably had to tell their wives that they'd been in a car wreck.

    I think I read it here that Ae (who has now departed) was responsible for the introduction of the hated butt-penalty. She was said to have imposed it on her own customers unilaterally and, in the ensuing argument with the shop boss, the other girls backed her up. The rest is history. Can anyone confirm the truth of that?

  4. #18488

    My Two Cents

    I am somewhat amused when I read members describing a session with a working girl as a real "GFE". Come on, it's not. At best it's a good simulation and sometimes sadly nothing more than a bad affectation. Don't get me wrong I'm just as big a chump as anybody else, I love the kissing and the cuddling but in no way do I believe its anything other than a skill set some girls have chosen as their style of service. On the other hand PSE is real. Notwithstanding the sometimes less than honest noisy oh fuck me fuck me harder moans, the ass pounding, the face fucking, the CIM swallowing multiple positional hard core full on sex is not an imaginary interpretation of what's happening, it is happening. But you know after all that is said and done give me a nice sweet smiling friendly attractive young lady who combines a slow sensual massage with the ubiquitous "GFE" who tells me after a kiss on the cheek and holding my hand on the way out you come see me again OK na. Is there some point to this post I hear you ask? Not really just my two cents.

  5. #18487
    Quote Originally Posted by Crocodilexp  [View Original Post]
    I was far from impressed by service (no A+ requested) at Mango last two times I went. Momo was outright bad with a poor attitude, and Vanda was a lovely person and made an acceptable effort, but her service was still below average.
    Thanks for the info on Momo and Vanda. I can now put Vanda on my to-do list. She looks pretty in the line-up but I had skipped over her based on a hunch that she might be a bit of a princess. That she is actually a "lovely person" is all I need to know to pull the trigger. I enjoy showing inexperienced pretty girls the ropes so long as they are willing to let me. Does she have any baby damage?

    Happily, Momo has already departed. So too has Get. Looking at some old photos, I was surprised to see that Get used to be attractive. She looked so fat and faded recently that I mistook her for the cleaning lady. Maybe she will pop up again in Tulip one day.

  6. #18486
    Is DokiDoki the best high end porn star quality massage in Bangkok is that really my only option?

  7. #18485
    Quote Originally Posted by Paolo99  [View Original Post]

    Second time was recently with Sara, she is bigger and darker than I thought, I went to see her just because of A+ and I was denied access to it. To her credit she offered me to come back the next day and said she would allow me to fuck her ass but I wanted to do it in the first session.
    You need to pay the 500 baht A+ surcharge in advance at Mango.

  8. #18484
    Quote Originally Posted by Paolo99  [View Original Post]
    How come the two times I've been in Mango I've been deceived both by the looks and by the service provided by these two girls?

    Both times I chose a girl that was said to be A+ and both times I've been rejected when I wanted to fuck their ass.
    If you intend to do A+, ask for it specifically during the lineup (in front of everyone), before choosing the girl. Do not leave any ambiguity, do not simply assume she'll do it if listed on the website or you heard it from another punter or it's shop policy. I never had a girl refuse A+ if she confirmed she'd do it right before I picked her.

    On the other hand, several times I just assumed A+ and didn't specifically confirm, the girls tried to refuse, and this included a regular at SW I've done A+ with before (I reminded her of this and she changed her mind, but it just wasn't nice to be denied what you know is available).

    I generally dislike discussing specific services beforehand (it's usually pointless, and I feel it's rude), but A+ is an exception.

    All this said, I was far from impressed by service (no A+ requested) at Mango last two times I went. Momo was outright bad with a poor attitude, and Vanda was a lovely person and made an acceptable effort, but her service was still below average.

  9. #18483
    Quote Originally Posted by Syzygies  [View Original Post]
    "Awful results plain to see" means what. I can't guess.
    My bad. I neglected to include an important detail so I added a further comment to clarify what I actually meant. Unfortunately, however, my comments are subject to a 12 hour moderation delay so they tend to appear a day late. They also get published towards the bottom of the page and, therefore, go largely unread. Neither can I amend anything. Such are the hindrances of Regular Membership.

    By the time you read this comment, the answer you require will have appeared on this thread before you asked the question. People will think that you went blind. I have submitted this comment to reassure them that you didn't.

  10. #18482
    Quote Originally Posted by MrBenn  [View Original Post]
    The cooperative nature of the Thai workplace is a national characteristic but competition does occur; particularly over money and status. Nevertheless, it takes a very tough-minded boss to side with the high-performing girls against the jealous herd. In Tulip, the boss is evidently not up to the challenge and the awful results are plain for all to see. Your examples suggest that Boss and Addict are afflicted with similar management weaknesses. I suspect that the success of shops like Snow White and Mango in nurturing talent is down to untypical management practices. What other explanation could there be?
    It is not easy for me to understand what you are getting at in the differences in culture between various MP shops, and what you believe the results are.

    "Awful results plain to see" means what. I can't guess.

    Certainly the personalities of girls and mamasans vary widely in MPs and bars. Yes a very popular girl can create jealousies even if she tries to help others get work. You can always find the rumour the girl must do BBFS, otherwise why is she so popular even she denies it and is against the rules.

    Can any shop with a lot of girls have only the nicest personalities? Must be tough. I was aware of one of my bargirls having fights with other bargirls, even she seemed nice enough to me. I could not tell who was at fault of course, but suspected my girl could be a bit bitchy.

    If a customer at Tulip does not choose a girl, he will get assigned to the next girl in line, but we would never stand for that. Seeing Yok in leotard at Tulip on my first visit (that I remember), I could not go past her, and probably did not even check the full line up. Was very hard to change to any other girl after that.

    Some girls in an MP can remain somewhat aloof, not wanting to get involved in a lot of highly personal gossip or provide any details of their life to other girls (there is a danger), and then possibly not have any really close friends at the MP. They can be there purely to work. A good boss would surely try to prevent jealousies between girls, but it cannot be helped that some girls will have extra good looks or service or both.

    Thais are very nosey by nature for the most part, and do like to ask questions that should not be asked of others. At some times girls will catch STDs for sure, especially the bare backers, and I don't know to what extend these things become well known by others. Maybe they nearly all catch one sooner or later.

    When I went to a Tulip girl's birthday dinner once, the whole Tulip crew of girls seemed like a friendly group, but I could not tell if any deep resentments were brewing. I generally agree with Goat's view of the cooperation. Girls that do very well can have too much business and would like to see their friends doing well also. Girls have recommended other girls for me at times. Some of my regulars seemed to have lovely personalities and wishing well for other girls. Coping with awful customers could have been the biggest problems they faced, or not enough customers.

    I would say an MP shop could be partially spoiled by having a real dickhead manager, however I have always tried to ignore these things. If some dickhead Farang guy was Managing BJ shop, I could just ignore him mostly. I never tried to get close to any management at all. Best to maintain a distance. Even if Dr. BJ was a nice guy, I would not know, because did not choose to socialise at all.

    I have been to Boss massage quite a number of times in the past. I have no lingering memories of the management with which to comment. Definitely way in front of the Jap guy at Can Cam though, in being easy to deal with. All my girls left at some point, which could have been a comment on not a happy shop, however they did not tell me why that I recall. High competition between girls is possible. Pin told me she simply made more money on Soi 4 (don't know if that was the real story). Competition wcould be tougher in Boss and bitchy girls is possible. 2nd time with her was not that good, service had declined and became a bit stiff legged.

  11. #18481
    Quote Originally Posted by Goatscrot  [View Original Post]
    Performance at SW and Mango is nowhere near where it was when the shops opened. The only shop that has been able to maintain is Tulip. When SW and Mango opened all gals were required to do everything. Opting out of A+ was not an option.
    Did June at SW do anal in her early SW days? I would not know as did not ask for it, but I had the feeling she would not have been that keen on it at least.

  12. #18480
    Quote Originally Posted by Goatscrot  [View Original Post]
    Performance at SW and Mango is nowhere near where it was when the shops opened. The only shop that has been able to maintain is Tulip. When SW and Mango opened all gals were required to do everything. Opting out of A+ was not an option.
    In Tulip, the culture of bullying targets the pretty girls; not the high performers. I didn't mention that important detail in my previous post. That is why "the awful results are plain for all to see". Generally, I agree that the shop has maintained its performance standards but there is at least one confirmed dud in the line-up. Her name is Janet. She was my final punt there.

    The challenging looks of the Tulip line-up can only be justified by a cast-iron guarantee that all of them will perform. When you take a pretty girl in another shop and she turns out to be a dud, you still have the consolation of having shagged a pretty girl. When you encounter a dud in Tulip, there is no crumb of comfort to be had. A wank would be more rewarding.

    I agree that performance standards have slipped at both Snow White and Mango in recent years but I'm still having a great time in both of those venues with carefully selected girls and a new willingness on my part to try out girls who don't have the body of a fashion model.

  13. #18479
    Quote Originally Posted by MrBenn  [View Original Post]
    The cooperative nature of the Thai workplace is a national characteristic but competition does occur; particularly over money and status. Nevertheless, it takes a very tough-minded boss to side with the high-performing girls against the jealous herd. In Tulip, the boss is evidently not up to the challenge and the awful results are plain for all to see. Your examples suggest that Boss and Addict are afflicted with similar management weaknesses. I suspect that the success of shops like Snow White and Mango in nurturing talent is down to untypical management practices. What other explanation could there be?
    Performance at SW and Mango is nowhere near where it was when the shops opened. The only shop that has been able to maintain is Tulip. When SW and Mango opened all gals were required to do everything. Opting out of A+ was not an option.

  14. #18478
    Quote Originally Posted by Gargano19  [View Original Post]
    One problem I have had with DD is no-availabilty of rooms. Kiss told me that they only have 8 room (though their rooms extremely big), and 2-3 room's AC is not working. Which meNs, every time I try to book, mamsan says that room is not available. This is little annoying.

    P.S.: Last I tried DD was a month ago, so maybe AC problem is solved by now.
    This is the thing. Some new or newish places like Doki Doki and Momo are doing well, other places not so well. Some posters are making it sound like there's been an 80% drop in customers but I go to the oilies once or twice a week and haven't noticed anything different. It's normal for the low season to be a bit quieter. The shops seem to be managing to recruit new girls too, just none that have both the looks and service level to be a superstar.

  15. #18477
    Quote Originally Posted by Syzygies  [View Original Post]
    I got lucky for the choice and had a great experience at Doki Doki (not trying for a porn star). The girl was very skilled in making the Nuru slide blissful. I could see in the line up she had a model like body (pity about the bolt-ONS a bit much). That experience alleviated the pain of the price greatly. Ha ha. Not worth trying to save small change by taking only 60 minutes IMHO. Enjoy at leisurely pace.

    https://dokidokibangkok.com/girls/

    A pity the top of faces are cut off but the Nadia pic with small waist is accurate. Others may prefer a more meaty girl for body slide, but I was very happy. My pal recommends Sofia too (for slim girls) and he also tried Naomi (good service). I am suspecting the girls are well trained.

    Can't say I heard any bad reports as yet. Guys very hard to please and wanting porno stars may not even be willing to pay the Doki Doki prices.

    The rooms are good I guess they are making every effort to run the place well, tweeting the girls attending is excellent service really. You can't see many shops making the same effort levels, or is this wishful thinking?

    How would I improve the place? Well if all girls presented to the line up naked, that would be perfect. Just Kidding. :-) I can go elsewhere to see a line of pussies.
    I took Olivia in my previous exp, not good, actual she is 40+ lady, less enthu and no licking, I don't felt like doing her too, in that case Pam was good.

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