Bangkok Massage Parlors - Except TULIP and ANNIES!

[Dan7373]

....I got the vibe that the staff were 50% not taking me seriously. ...

The ONE mistake I made that I won't ever be making again. Don't PAY WITH CREDIT CARD. The exchange rate they offer is bad....

I think it's normal for some ladies to start losing their interest in you, after you spend some time in the lobby looking at all the ladies.

Because it's not only you who is picking a lady. The ladies are also picking guys in their own way.

When you look at all the ladies, then you naturally look at some ladies longer than at others. Which gives them all a clue which ladies you are interested in. Then one of the ladies, that you are interested in, starts making a lot of eye-contact with you. While the other ladies either look away or show less interest in you. And that's what makes you pick your lady and go with her.

When you have too many choices, then it can be so hard to decide, that you might not decide at all. You might walk out of the door to think about it some more.

The ladies know this from their experience. And that's why they cooperate with each other to decrease your choice enough for you to pick one of them. They stop competing with each other for your attention, when they see that you are interested in one of them more than in others.

And using a credit card probably leaves a permanent financial record that you've been at this place on certain date and how much money you've paid. And this record isn't just for the bank. Some spy agencies from the US government probably have access to it too.

It's just a computer record, that they can look up, if they want to. But it might come in handy for them in the future, if they want something from you that you don't want to give, such as pleading guilty to some crime, for example, even if you didn't do it.

They can pull out your record of being at this place and threaten to show it to your wife or your girlfriend. This is a normal practice for police and prosecutors. They dig up any kind of dirt on you they can find and use it to get your cooperation. That's how they get so many accused to plead guilty, without going to trial.

That's why it's not a good idea to use a credit card or a debit card for a service that's illegal in the place where you live. This kind of information can be used to spoil your reputation and blackmail you into doing things that you normally might not want to do.

[Dan7373]

What is "real", anyway? ....

Some of the exceptionally talented girls (like Ying from Tulip), even manage to make most punters feel somewhat special and having a connection with her, despite knowing that 3 other dicks have been through those 3 holes earlier in the day....

I can say for myself that I can really like several women at the same time and have sex with all of them, one after the other. Liking one woman doesn't stop me from liking other women too.

So, why is it so hard to believe that a P4P lady can feel the same way about multiple guys?

I've heard about double-standards, but they never made sense to me. If I can like several women and really enjoy having sex with all of them, then so can a lady with multiple guys.

There is no good reason to say that your liking is real, but the lady must be acting and faking.

[Dan7373]

The PSE comes as an advertised package and in its truest incarnation encompasses most or all of whatever sexual experience the customer wants to indulge in. Its hardcore sex, plain and simple and its real.

The GFE is the girl pretending to enjoy kissing and cuddling. It's not real it's a fantasy trip for the punter. Kissing and cuddling are nice, I enjoy them particularly with working girls who are naturally affectionate and yes there are some still out there but I don't delude myself, well OK maybe for a minute or two on occasion. But even then I know it's not real, it's a million miles removed from the feelings I have when making love with a real girlfriend and not somebody I'm paying to be with.

I chat a lot with the girls about customers and you know the hardest part of the job for them is the kissing which is why a lot are not into it. There was a comment recently from somebody who visited Kasalong BJ bar that when he tried to kiss her she refused saying none of the girls at the shop kissed. Strange they will suck your dick take your cum in their mouth but cannot abide touching your lips. Strange world we monger through.

There is a saying that beauty is in the eye of the beholder. And the same can be said about GFE and PSE. Because you decide how to treat the lady. It's not something that happens on its own.

GFE doesn't necessarily mean a good experience with the lady, at least not in real life. Because you can find plenty of girlfriends and boyfriends who fight with each other and don't treat each other well. And of course, you can also find plenty of girlfriends and boyfriends who are really nice and affectionate with each other.

It's not how nice and affectionate the lady is with you that decides whether you have a GFE experience or not. Because you can have a girlfriend, who doesn't treat you well.

It's you who decide how to treat the lady. And of course, the lady also decides how to respond to you.

I found from my experience with P4P ladies that being friendly and affectionate with the lady as though she is my girlfriend or my wife usually gets a similar response from her.

The only thing you need to take into account is cultural differences. Because kissing, for example, is common in western countries. But in Thailand, most people don't do it. It's a foreign cultural practice for them, and many Thai ladies are uncomfortable with it, regardless of whether it is a P4P type of situation or normal romance.

[Franciscass]

I used to be confused now I'm not so sure anymore.

Seems a GFE need not include kissing but just be a feeling that the girl is happy to be with you. OK going with that without knowing it now 90% of my paid for sessions were GFE'S unlike my previous belief none were as they lacked the genuine intimacy I felt with real girlfriends.

Seems from some member's posts sex with working girls is better than sex with ex or currant girlfriends not just in their skill set but in conveying a feeling that they are really enjoying being with them.

I'm fortunate to have had a lot of both in my life and while its sure not a black and white situation I remember very little of my P4P experiences but have the fondest memories of endless hours in bed with true girlfriends. I was in love with some but not all of them. This is where my definition of GFE comes from.

Anyway thing is, if you've had a good time tip the girl well and I'm pretty sure she doesn't give a hoot what you want to call what just happened.

[Goatscrot]

I made a note to get with My at SW after a report that described her "beautiful pussy" and skills at rimming. She says she is 27. Her body is all natural with a round ass (like a birthday cake, as I like to say) and small boobs with nice pink nipples. Like a 21 year old and with no baby damage. Her pussy is indeed as described. Well formed with big lips, tight and naturally wet after DATY which she really liked. She took direction well and slowed her roll as I asked. She was pleasant but in a more artificial way than most in the oilies. She also refused the pleasure of my small, 3 inch small, vibrator. Other ladies want me to give it too them as a gift after they enjoy it. She made it a point that she does not do anal which I do not either. And for the big test of just how good was she, would I repeat? Only if I thought a repeat would make it better than the first time. Oh, and she showed the tiniest frown when her tip was only 200. I tip 500 for an amazing session and this was more like a training session. So it was 1,900 baht at the counter plus tip.

Yep, that is about how my only session went with her and even though she has a beautiful snatch; I never repeated.

[EihTooms]

Same girl. She added braces a while back. She changed her hair color recently to a blondish-orange color. She also became colder recently. Her face is riddled with acne. I've seen her with no makeup and she is definitely looked ghastly for her age but she's not ghastly in an old hag sense. LOL. I have done it all with her in the past and she was always subpar in the skills department.
All of that aside, I stopped picking her because there are cuter girls that give better BJs for the same or lower price.

Then I will bow to your more recent up close and personal experience with her that she is the same girl. It has been at least a year since I have been with her but have seen her sitting outside often. Come to think of it, I have seen a bleached blonde with that whitish powder make up and too red lipstick sitting out there lately. And that did make her look "ghastly", if it is the same Minh. LOL.

[Phazze93]

Day 1.
Soapy. The Lord.
Time - 7 pm.

-90% of customers were of asian.
-Quite a few smoking hot girls.

I started off with having a beer while I let my eyes absorb all the eye candy at center stage.
If you're like me. Very picky, then my god do NOT go with the mamasan's recommendation.
Like most people have already posted, Mamasan was pushing a less attractive girl while advocating that she was young.
I'm not quite sure if this was because I'm young?? Or she was just pushing a girl that isn't as popular.
After about 15 min of relaxing & perusing, I selected a tier O girl. (Forgot the name and exact number).

Height - 155 cm.
Weight / figure. Tight / slim / fit (less than 100 lb for sure I think).
Face - 8/10.
Tits - 10/10 (very sizable / perky / NATURAL).
Ass - 8/10 (she's petite so yea).
Pussy - 7/10 (bushy, not super tight).
Overall body - 9/10 (petite, fit, milky soft skin, couldn't find a single blemish).
Personality - 10/10 (but then again she was with me: P).
Service - 10/10.
Damage - 5,100 baht + 400 for 2 beers (1 for me 1 for her).

Pretty standard session / nothing out of the ordinary.
Eased into the session with about 10 min of chatting & light touching just to get the girl more comfortable with me.
Language barrier was an issue so thank god for google translate.
We then moved on to the actual soapy massage where I got to feel up her fine / tight body. My god was I rock hard at that point.
Next, rinsed off & moved over to the bed for a BBBJ. She was very attentive to both balls & shaft.
Lastly, started cowgirl - mish - finished doggy. (She initiated some hot DFK as well).
Favorite was definitely doggy. Hard / rough doggy at that too .
To my own pleasant surprise. I lasted a lot longer than what I had anticipated.
Ended up with 15-20 min left after finishing. We chatted a little bit more while she gave me a massage & her LINE.
I asked her if she was free outside of working hours but she strongly advocated she was NOT and only available during soapy hours.

*SIDE NOTE*.

As I have mentioned before. I'm considerably younger than most other clientele in this hobby.
I'm a 26 why / o, american asian, relatively good looking & good shape. (Could pass for younger).
I bring this up again not for the purpose of boasting my youth but as to preface some advice for other younger mongers such as myself.
The moment I walked into The Lord, I was treated differently. At first it was great. Lots of attention from female service staff & LOTS of smiles & eye contact with pretty soapy girls. (Giggly atmosphere).
However, it wasn't until after about 10 min that I had realized my youth had 1 downside. I got the vibe that the staff were 50% not taking me seriously.
I wouldn't be surprised if they saw me and thought (young, newbie?, why is he here?, etc.).

The most sound piece of advice I can give other young mongers is. Confidence.
I know that sounds cliche but to elaborate, I don't mean cocky / arrogant.
I was dressed nicely / stylish, I acted mature & respectful, & I did my homework.
Knowing what you're looking for & what the place has to offer will go a long way.

The ONE mistake I made that I won't ever be making again. Don't PAY WITH CREDIT CARD. The exchange rate they offer is bad.
Don't ask me why I made that decision as I had the cash. Maybe it was the hot little thang on my arm dropping my IQ to -100 haha.

*Conclusion*.

No complaints about The Lord. Will be going back again within my 5 night stay.
Hopefully my review will be helpful to some. Will definitely be posting more.
CHEERS.

[Syzygies]

What is "real", anyway? Sure, you won't experience profound love during a session with a working girl, but I don't with 90% of my "real girlfriends" either so far.

There's huge difference between a GFE-style service, where the girl gives out the vibe (real or well-acted) of actually wanting to be with you (plus get the money), compared to a arm's length (or should we say, dick's length) mechanical service, where the girl does nothing to hide the fact that she'd rather grab your money and kick you out as soon as possible if she only could.
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I don't think GFE boils down to mouth kissing only. It's usually an important element, I've had borderline GFE sessions with girls that didn't do much DFK or none at all. They have a right to their boundaries and peculiarities, as long as they create the proper vibe of being happy to be with you and generally strive to please, and are subtle about steering you away from the few things they dislike.

Yes I am agreeing. The meaning of GFE, is really easy for me. It means that the Sexual experience is equally as good or better than what you might have got from a real Girlfriend, for apparent enthusiasm, tolerance of our behaviour, etc.

It is nothing to do with "being in love" but everything to do with being lustful. One of my regulars indicates she does not love me but likes my dick, and tongue. We all know we can have a great sex experience with a girl that we just met, and certainly are not in love with. So I have no clue why the "love" thing ever gets mentioned here. It is quite irrelevant to sex.

Since DFK is usually an essential part of an experience with a GF, unless she has some mouth problem, then DFK is normally an essential component of a GFE. One of my regular girls is very kissy. She initiates the DFK much more than I do. I doubt she would be so full on with it, if she did not really like it. However it could be calculated to give me best service since she knows I also like it. She is certainly giving as much DFK and as good as a regular GF. She also seems to love getting a good DATY, perhaps does not get a good one often (I don't know). She never seems to have a great deal of difficulty to get to an orgasm. So seems to be a horny girl. No BF as far as I know. So I rate the experience with her as GFE, as she is as good as any GF I ever had and more skilled than most GFs I ever had. She is very tolerant If I happen to be slow to cum. I don't really find she has any specific weaknesses. She may have major weaknesses for others, depending on what they want. I don't know if she would be happy to provide CIM, or anal, etc. I never requested any of these. I also never had a GF that liked to do those things, to my knowledge. I regard those things as being special "services" rather than being part of a GFE. Girls do extra things for money.

Clearly what guys expect from a GFE can vary, but it should be mostly about attitude and being prepared to try to give the normal type of partner a really good time with things that are fairly standard for GFs.

[Crazy4Thai]

I made a note to get with My at SW after a report that described her "beautiful pussy" and skills at rimming. She says she is 27. Her body is all natural with a round ass (like a birthday cake, as I like to say) and small boobs with nice pink nipples. Like a 21 year old and with no baby damage. Her pussy is indeed as described. Well formed with big lips, tight and naturally wet after DATY which she really liked. She took direction well and slowed her roll as I asked. She was pleasant but in a more artificial way than most in the oilies. She also refused the pleasure of my small, 3 inch small, vibrator. Other ladies want me to give it too them as a gift after they enjoy it. She made it a point that she does not do anal which I do not either. And for the big test of just how good was she, would I repeat? Only if I thought a repeat would make it better than the first time. Oh, and she showed the tiniest frown when her tip was only 200. I tip 500 for an amazing session and this was more like a training session. So it was 1,900 baht at the counter plus tip.

[Crazy4Thai]

Sooooo many girls rim at the BJ bars. I was rimmed nearly everytime I went to a BJ bar this month. There was only one girl at Som's Haven who did not rim me. She also won't let me rim her. Everyone else provided willingly. Didn't even ask. I've been to SOL, Lulitas, Som's and Kasalong this month.

Yeah, I understand the basics, believe me. I was asking about Nan and thanks GS for the specific answer. My success rate on this topic at BJ bars is about 50%. In fact at Som's Haven about 2 years ago, when I inquired quietly with my intended provider she announced it loudly to all the girls to ridicule me. Agreeing if I paid 10,000 baht. Really it's good of you to answer and I value the specifics in reporting, not the generalities that are so prevalent here.

[Ixgzca]

Just wanted to mention these latest reports about a "Min" at Kasalong furthers my feeling that there is a different girl with that name working there now than the Minh I have known and seen working the day shift there for a few years. The lovely Minh I know is not a blonde, does not wear braces as far as I know and never would have needed them (unless it is a fashion decision she has made for some reason). And, although she might use some make up to smooth over an imperfect complexion, there is no way her basic facial features without make up would be seen as "ghastly". LOL.

Also, the Minh I have been with was not so resistant to at least a moderate version of DFK and gave a perfectly decent BJ, always being very responsive to my requests to slow down, do it more like this, less like that or whatever. Which, in reality, should put her BJ among the better ones in an environment where many girls are utterly incapable or unwilling to adjust.

In fact, the Minh I know is one of the better looking day shift girls at Kasalong who I have no longer seen sitting outside for the past 2-3 weeks, as I mentioned earlier.

Of course, girls can change their looks, performace level and demeanor over time and maybe this blonde, braces wearing, "ghastly" looking without make up, non accommodating girl named Min at Kasalong is the same girl I knew as Minh over the past few years. Which would be too bad indeed.

Same girl. She added braces a while back. She changed her hair color recently to a blondish-orange color. She also became colder recently. Her face is riddled with acne. I've seen her with no makeup and she is definitely looked ghastly for her age but she's not ghastly in an old hag sense. LOL. I have done it all with her in the past and she was always subpar in the skills department.
All of that aside, I stopped picking her because there are cuter girls that give better BJs for the same or lower price.

[EihTooms]

Headed upstairs the other day at Kasalong with who might have been Min, braces and dyed blonds hair. When we got to the room and I tried to DFK, she refused. Also told me that none of the gals there liked to DFK. Kind of a deal killer for me, so I told her thanks but no thanks and left. Guess I need to try some gals at Som's.

Just wanted to mention these latest reports about a "Min" at Kasalong furthers my feeling that there is a different girl with that name working there now than the Minh I have known and seen working the day shift there for a few years. The lovely Minh I know is not a blonde, does not wear braces as far as I know and never would have needed them (unless it is a fashion decision she has made for some reason). And, although she might use some make up to smooth over an imperfect complexion, there is no way her basic facial features without make up would be seen as "ghastly". LOL.

Also, the Minh I have been with was not so resistant to at least a moderate version of DFK and gave a perfectly decent BJ, always being very responsive to my requests to slow down, do it more like this, less like that or whatever. Which, in reality, should put her BJ among the better ones in an environment where many girls are utterly incapable or unwilling to adjust.

In fact, the Minh I know is one of the better looking day shift girls at Kasalong who I have no longer seen sitting outside for the past 2-3 weeks, as I mentioned earlier.

Of course, girls can change their looks, performace level and demeanor over time and maybe this blonde, braces wearing, "ghastly" looking without make up, non accommodating girl named Min at Kasalong is the same girl I knew as Minh over the past few years. Which would be too bad indeed.

[Crocodilexp]

The GFE is the girl pretending to enjoy kissing and cuddling. It's not real it's a fantasy trip for the punter. Kissing and cuddling are nice, I enjoy them particularly with working girls who are naturally affectionate and yes there are some still out there but I don't delude myself, well OK maybe for a minute or two on occasion. But even then I know it's not real, it's a million miles removed from the feelings I have when making love with a real girlfriend and not somebody I'm paying to be with.

What is "real", anyway? Sure, you won't experience profound love during a session with a working girl, but I don't with 90% of my "real girlfriends" either so far.

There's huge difference between a GFE-style service, where the girl gives out the vibe (real or well-acted) of actually wanting to be with you (plus get the money), compared to a arm's length (or should we say, dick's length) mechanical service, where the girl does nothing to hide the fact that she'd rather grab your money and kick you out as soon as possible if she only could.

One of the main attractions of Thailand's working girls used to be that they gave off the GFE vibe of being at least somewhat happy to spend time with you, unlike most working girls elsewhere who often don't do much to hide their disdain or sometimes even disgust for the customer (or if they briefly attempt to hide it, aren't very convincing). The former is not a fantasy or a myth, but a real, and essential, part of the experience, whose absence is blatantly obvious.

Some of the exceptionally talented girls (like Ying from Tulip), even manage to make most punters feel somewhat special and having a connection with her, despite knowing that 3 other dicks have been through those 3 holes earlier in the day.

I don't think GFE boils down to mouth kissing only. It's usually an important element, I've had borderline GFE sessions with girls that didn't do much DFK or none at all. They have a right to their boundaries and peculiarities, as long as they create the proper vibe of being happy to be with you and generally strive to please, and are subtle about steering you away from the few things they dislike.

[Ixgzca]

Ah, a gal with a truly dirty mind and appetites like that is one of life's true treasures!

Yep. The girls are just as dirty as we are.

[Goatscrot]

I clean my own ass beforehand if I'm in the mood for rimming. I do know one girl that doesn't like me to wash before. She likes the musky, natural smell.

Ah, a gal with a truly dirty mind and appetites like that is one of life's true treasures!