Bangkok Massage Parlors - Except TULIP and ANNIES!

[EihTooms]

Well if she was ugly, no one would bother. I know it is very Thai to ask "where are you going?" but usually implies ulterior motives. In my country we don't suddenly accost strangers and start getting fresh, we are taught to mind own business, and not hassle strangers. In this case could have been a 16 or 17 YO for all I know. Looked very young although dressed rather to show off her amazing ass and curves. I know in Europe complete strangers are greeting each other but I never really understood why.

Personally I don't like to hassle people that have no interest in me.

No, I don't recommend you or anyone else hassle anyone. I was talking about simply saying something funny or charming in her language while the two of you were sharing the same space and breathing the same air in a bank. And I don't mean some crude suggestion that she drop everything and follow you to the nearest hotel room for sex. But it seems to me you are a special case. If anyone needs to take at least some moderately bold steps to weed out the delicate flowers and frightened weak sisters from the girls who are truly intrigued and open to engaging and fucking farangs among the hot girls in town and has the language skills to pull it off sooner rather than later, that would be you.

How on earth would or should a Thai girl like the one in the bank show interest in you until or unless you say something to her first? Buddy of mine is extremely ugly and looks years older than me. Yet he is constantly getting phone numbers and later dating and fucking lovely young Thai girls in their late teens or early twenties that I couldn't imagine would be up for screwing anyone more than 5-10 years their senior. You know what his winning, clever and bold opening line is? He looks at them and smiles, says, "Oh, you look so pretty. Do you speak English? Where are you from?" They say their province. "What is your name? My name is Paul." Then it just goes naturally from there. They help. That's it! lol.

The shocking thing is EVERY girl in Thailand that he has ever used those lame and creaky old opening lines on smiles broadly and responds to his attention to them. Ok, let's say your bank girl is miles and miles and miles and miles more beautiful than any girl I or this ugly old dude have ever seen. But your advantage is you are no doubt younger and better looking than him and you speak Thai fluently. Worth a try, imo.

[Syzygies]

Syzygies, may I ask why you didn't say something funny or charming in Thai to that girl and introduce yourself to her? Or did you and she just politely say Hi and nothing else?

Well if she was ugly, no one would bother. I know it is very Thai to ask "where are you going?" but usually implies ulterior motives. In my country we don't suddenly accost strangers and start getting fresh, we are taught to mind own business, and not hassle strangers. In this case could have been a 16 or 17 YO for all I know. Looked very young although dressed rather to show off her amazing ass and curves. I know in Europe complete strangers are greeting each other but I never really understood why.

Personally I don't like to hassle people that have no interest in me.

[EihTooms]

At the bank today saw a girl with amazing toned legs thighs and ass in very type leotard like pants from behind firstly. Then was amazed when saw the face too. Tan colour skin but extremely cute. Very young looking of course with such a body. I did not even get around to checking her tits region at all. LOL There is no doubt she would never get a knock back if she wanted a fuck, I reckon.

Syzygies, may I ask why you didn't say something funny or charming in Thai to that girl and introduce yourself to her? Or did you and she just politely say Hi and nothing else?

[Syzygies]

Guess it is about being able to tell your friends that you stuck it in a looker. I think for the locals lads that is exactly what it is about. And yes, if the gals at The Lord provided PSE and multiple shots, I'd for sure partake.

I think that is wrong logic, because not all of us are looking for a PSE. I can take a girl that does anal but fail to ask for it, and also not ask for any riming, nor finger up my ass, etc. These things are just not what I am typically looking for. There is little doubt that very good looking girls do not have to be pornstars to get enough business.

There is no use telling your buddy you got a fantastic looker that performed, if don't have the photos to prove it. LOL Anyway, I am all too often reporting a fantastic looker that was actually crap on the bed. So it is no way bragging rights. Look last time I really enjoyed fucking a truly stunning P4 P girl was far too long ago. I make do with well above average girls in one sense or another for my regular repeats. I am hardly motivated to repeat below average looks.

The main point about stunning girls, is that it somehow boosts my level of horniness, excitement etc. If the girl has a crap body or a crap face, I could lose my hard on much quicker, assuming I got one. It just seems so boring to fuck a very average looking girl. Just can't be bothered. A significant part of stimulation is visual for me. I had a regular street walker girl for a while, who was a good enough fuck, and I justified to myself that I was getting better value for money, yet in the end, I could not be bothered to fuck her any more, because the face and body was not good enough. Even if big high non saggy tits boosts my excitement, I still don't take the girl if her face is too ugly. Everything has to be a reasonable standard.

At the bank today saw a girl with amazing toned legs thighs and ass in very type leotard like pants from behind firstly. Then was amazed when saw the face too. Tan colour skin but extremely cute. Very young looking of course with such a body. I did not even get around to checking her tits region at all. LOL There is no doubt she would never get a knock back if she wanted a fuck, I reckon. Plenty of other girls, I would knock back even if free. It is just too dull to fuck uglies. I don't need that no matter how cheap they are and no matter how good they are as a pornstar. In Thermae I won't go below the top 3 girls for looks. Just don't like to compromise too much. It is not like I can't move on possibly even go without for the evening. Last night was first fuck for a few days, and just was a regular reliable GFE bargirl from Shark with stamina to go at least 90 minutes for the ST. Well above average looks, but not at all stunning. I had actually intended to splurge and do first 3some in a while, but the other sexy target girl was absent. Not just any girl will do.

Different guys get turned on in different ways. You need pornstar service. Others need extra good looks as a priority. Yes I need a GFE as well, that is the problem with many Soapy girls of today.

[Syzygies]

Just reach for the soap start washing yourself if they are wasting time in the tub and it isn't as enjoyable as you would like. YOU are paying. It takes all about 1-2 minutes to wash yourself. They aren't going to kill you, you're the customer. But sadly, you have to take control despite the fact that you are paying. That's just the situation it is.

Ha ha. For sure I have stood up to get out of the bath before.

Do you really think rushing the girls is going to get you anything better on the bed though?

[TimTimGuy]

Where have the expectations from the customer gone?

Does the term "Nouveau riche" make sense here ?

[Soroche]

I wasn't sure of what I was in the mood for today; crazy PSE at Eden or Snowhite, reliable selection at Angels or take my chances at "regular" oily and see what happens. I flipped all these options walking down Soi 20 and decided on the middle ground of all that and Akane Soi 33.

Usual script on entering. Directed to couches on the left, welcome soft drink and presented with the menu. I went with the Fashion 3 P - 90 mins with 2nd lady for last 30 minutes "lip service". Last time I had this course at Akane the 2nd lady was a bit of a boiler in street clothes but she is there to blow you with the 1st lady naked beside you. Other people have said this is not the norm though..

I visit Akane when I am feeling lazy and not up for a PSE but still want some action. I usually go for the "M" lotion massage, 90 minutes with one lady or the "V-3" massage, 90 minutes and two ladies. This includes use of a clean, spacious VIP room which has a bed with plenty of room for 3, a couch and large air mattress in the shower area. I normally book Yuki for the "M" massage and use her as a primary for the "V-3. The "M" session starts with a nice slow and easy BBBJ for about 20 minutes and then on to the shower area for a through and relaxing bath while laying on the mattress. Next is a little slip and slide followed by some rimming and a little DATY if I'm in the mood and a great blow job finish. With the time left over I ask for a body scrub. With the "V-3" I skip the body scrub and try to get 2 shots, one from each lady. In over 40 visits I have always had a positive experience. Good service is mainly what I am looking for. If you are trophy hunting it is probably best to go elsewhere.

[Goatscrot]

I really agree with your views on this and then I'm stopped in my tracks by your conclusion. Where are these better providers coming from? What would attract them to those shops and where are they now? My guess is that only a significant price increase would attract truly attractive talent. Just look at the other venues and what the beauties get. I know that you have said before that you would pay more to get more and I am still in agreement. I would frequent The Lord if I knew I could get everything I wanted with every provider. But I cannot so I don't. There a many tiers in this biz and unfortunately I do not think the oilies model is going to change.

Perhaps the oilies will just die out. Right now it seems only a few gals at each shop are busy. Why? Because each shop only has a few lookers that perform. Maybe there just are no really good looking gals that are willing to put on PSE performance at any price. From the reports I read about The Lord, most guys seems satisfied to pay that money for a looker that does not really perform or gives what I would consider a "sort of GFE. " Guess it is about being able to tell your friends that you stuck it in a looker. I think for the locals lads that is exactly what it is about. And yes, if the gals at The Lord provided PSE and multiple shots, I'd for sure partake. Unfortunately, there is not a tier with super hot gals that provide a PSE. It just doesn't exist here. Yes, there is a gal here and there, but they are rare. I'm getting to the point where I rarely partake. It's just to depressing to walk into the oilies and would be too frustrating to walk into The Lord. The oilies were far better talent wise 7 years ago. Far better. I'd go into Mango or Snow, or early Cherry and have trouble choosing. Also used to leave most sessions with my knees shaking thinking, "Wow that was amazing." Now I leave most of the time thinking, "Meh, I could have jerked off and saved 2k."

For sure we are in a very different era. Friend has a buddy who had a regular that used to work at one of the high dollar parlors then went on to be kind of a FL working with a group of other gals. Heard what she gets for private events and it is just stunning. Supposedly a very nice looking gal with a great body, but from the description nowhere near sophisticated enough to be considered a high class escort. Not so long ago big money escorts in the West had to possess a certain level of sophistication. They needed to be able to converse with the customer, had to be comfortable at a nice dinner, and of course had to be skilled in the art of seduction (how many Thai gals P4 P or civilians have you ever experienced being truly seductive?) and provide GFE or PSE. But now it seems, that you just need a pretty face, decent body, and be willing. Incredibly wealthy dudes will shower money on you. Where have the expectations from the customer gone?

[ParkVille]

In soapies it can be all too frustrating that the lady takes sooo looong in the bath with the cleaning procedure to waste a large part of the session time.

Just reach for the soap start washing yourself if they are wasting time in the tub and it isn't as enjoyable as you would like. YOU are paying. It takes all about 1-2 minutes to wash yourself. They aren't going to kill you, you're the customer. But sadly, you have to take control despite the fact that you are paying. That's just the situation it is.

[Syzygies]

I understand these gals need to make a living, but sesh, should we really be subjected to these type of visuals? I really think the shops should screen better and gals with really damaged bodies should be steered into another line of work. Punters need to speak up. I have actually gotten to the room and called off sessions because of baby damage. They know I am not a fan at all the PSE shops and warn me ahead of time to make sure I don't select a gal who is not going to pass muster. We stop taking those gals, eventually will will be offered better.

"sesh" LOL Maybe the spelling auto corrector mashed up "Sheesh"!

I think it would be great to have the MP shops dress the girls in extremely skimpy see through underwear. Annies has that to some extent (perhaps not see through) from memory although I did not visit recently. If the girls needed to go outside they could put on an easy on / off nurses short length tunic or smock or something similar.

In the lineup, all girls should be standing and slowly rotate the body so we see the back view as well. Not like Annies where girls stand up and sit down again too quick. In some bars we get these advantages automatically. Shark has gogo girls in see through underwear. It does not hide much but is not quite nude. I can't stand that "Coyote" girls have double layer bras, possibly with padding too. We don't want to be conned.

Girls with devastated bodies should probably be in the rub and tug shops. They obviously cannot be "models" which is virtually what a lot of us are looking for. Not just a girl with several holes. I do take mothers very often, however I expect the baby damage to be rather minor. My GF is a mother but not noticeably damaged at all. Pussy still tight (maybe from insufficient use LOL). Even her tits were never saggy. I guess she was very lucky.

[Crazy4Thai]

. We stop taking those gals, eventually will will be offered better.

I really agree with your views on this and then I'm stopped in my tracks by your conclusion. Where are these better providers coming from? What would attract them to those shops and where are they now? My guess is that only a significant price increase would attract truly attractive talent. Just look at the other venues and what the beauties get. I know that you have said before that you would pay more to get more and I am still in agreement. I would frequent The Lord if I knew I could get everything I wanted with every provider. But I cannot so I don't. There a many tiers in this biz and unfortunately I do not think the oilies model is going to change.

[Goatscrot]

I went to Snowhite about 6:30 pm, four ladies to choose from. I picked the prettiest who turned out to be Audi. I was happy with that as she has good reports on hers IIRC. She has a very pretty face and a nice cleavage but when in the room and she undressed, boy, she has been ravaged by childbirth. 10 out of 10 to the bra designers; they are mega defalted when unsuported and her belly is, well, ravaged.

In the shower, as previously reported, she is right down to business with BBBJ deep throat. Out of the shower, more of the same on the bed then condom and no holes barred. She is a trooper right enough and excellent BJ skills but front and backdoor are loose; "like throwing a sausage in a train tunnel".

This is a pretty negative report but she does work hard at it so I feel a bit guilty with the negativity. I wanted to try Snowhite, I've done it now; scratch that one off the bucket list. If Audi is one of the stars then I will pass on a repeat.

I understand these gals need to make a living, but sesh, should we really be subjected to these type of visuals? I really think the shops should screen better and gals with really damaged bodies should be steered into another line of work. Punters need to speak up. I have actually gotten to the room and called off sessions because of baby damage. They know I am not a fan at all the PSE shops and warn me ahead of time to make sure I don't select a gal who is not going to pass muster. We stop taking those gals, eventually will will be offered better.

[Dextro Sol]

Igzca it was maybe you but I read a post or posts years ago about run getting rather loose and staining people and the sheets brown.

Unfortunately I never got to try my size on her but seems she would handle anything well despite being small. The best I had for that was Yok very accommodating and strong endurance she could take on a whole team but for mongers who are not large sized I would imagine it might be like dipping in a pool.

Dextro sol did you say run jumped on you bareback? Did you catch anything as she was always giving snow white customers the clap.

Now that she is retired in Phuket with an American I wonder if she exclusively stains his sheets.

Yes, she literally raped me in the room. As I remember she tored off my clothes and pushed me on my back on the bed and jumped right up on me. I had no time to react and there we were, fucking like rabbits bareback. Fortunately I didn't catch anything, but I have read later she had to leave work for curing different illnesses from time to time.

[Sonic Bam]

I went to Snowhite about 6:30 pm, four ladies to choose from. I picked the prettiest who turned out to be Audi. I was happy with that as she has good reports on hers IIRC. She has a very pretty face and a nice cleavage but when in the room and she undressed, boy, she has been ravaged by childbirth. 10 out of 10 to the bra designers; they are mega defalted when unsuported and her belly is, well, ravaged.

In the shower, as previously reported, she is right down to business with BBBJ deep throat. Out of the shower, more of the same on the bed then condom and no holes barred. She is a trooper right enough and excellent BJ skills but front and backdoor are loose; "like throwing a sausage in a train tunnel".

This is a pretty negative report but she does work hard at it so I feel a bit guilty with the negativity. I wanted to try Snowhite, I've done it now; scratch that one off the bucket list. If Audi is one of the stars then I will pass on a repeat.

[Syzygies]

I'd say that your experience with the lady often depends on you being ready. It's not just about the lady and the establishment.

This was especially true for me, when I first started coming to Thailand. I wasn't used at all to lay my eyes on a sexy girl and 10 minutes later have her undress with me in the private room, expecting me to take her with my cock. This worked well for me as a fantasy. But in reality, this was too fast for me. I found this experience overwhelming and a little hard to enjoy.

I often didn't enjoy my first experience with the lady I liked. But then I would go back to my hotel room, masturbate about this lady and make myself ready to do her again the next day. And my second time with her was usually a lot more pleasant than the first. It's like on the first day, I wasn't ready for her, but on the second day I was.

For you Dan maybe, but you are unique. I don't think you can assume others will be similar at all. I seriously doubt that the vast majority of us, are not "ready" to fuck a beautiful naked girl if she is hot, willing and assisting. In soapies it can be all too frustrating that the lady takes sooo looong in the bath with the cleaning procedure to waste a large part of the session time.

I might not be ready in terms of a great hard on, if there is no kissing, no BJ, and the girl is stiff legged and scared, or if her body is a disaster area, or there is not touching allowed. However if the girl is hot sexy and GFE from the get go, most of us are very ready very quickly. In fact fucking the girl in the bath or on a body slide mat has been known to happen, when we just can't wait.

Most of us had prior P4P experience before Thailand, so are not shy or scared of the lady in the slightest. Can't get to her pussy fast enough. Maybe your "not ready" is really the fear that you will pop too fast. I am opposite and never have that problem at all.

Your comment "Very hard to do a lady" because of pollution in the city. That was also a really weird comment. I may struggle to pop if get too hot or stuffy when air con doesn't work properly, however never notice pollution of Bangkok at time of a fuck. It is just not relevant. We don't have vehicle exhausts going direct into the MP.

The one thing that you wrote, that made some sense, is that not all fantasies are suitable for reality. It is not necessary to live them all. e.g. I like nude girls so much, that I would prefer to ask all the girls in the MP line up to get undressed naked before I choose the girl, however it is just not going to happen. LOL I would love to have some MPs where, the full line up are naked all the time, however have to make do with skimpy outfits. Fucking a girl in the bar in public is one thing I tried at Star of Light. It was not so great in reality, mainly because the girl expected me to finish relatively quick, like giving me only 10 minutes or less. That is not very satisfactory to a guy who likes 1 hour sex minimum. LOL Two or three girls sex parties was something that worked out very well with the right girls, so did that many times. So fantasies can be workable if all parties can have their requirements met.