Bangkok Massage Parlors - Except TULIP and ANNIES!

[Asian Rain]

Not sure I get it.

You might want to take a look at my attempt at a starter blog for reports on Cart Bars to understand better. Or check out what Bkkdog is doing for Saphan Kwai. Basically just report like we are reporting now, but just to a single thread which makes it easier to see the information about a specific topic in a specific place. For example, I was trying to look through your threads recently for a particular point on CH, but your reports are buried and dispersed under dozens of other reports, discussions, etc. That made it quite a chore to find. Anyway, give it a try if you like.

By the way, any experiences on cart bars by anyone are welcome. Enjoy BKK, AsianRain.

[Syzygies]

Same for the thread on massage places. A blog restricted to factual REPORTS would be a blessing. IMHO this would make ISG a much more informative resource and worth contributing, especially for regular contributors. For consideration. AR.

What do you mean by Factual reports exactly. Isn't it all just stories? Do you mean guys should stick to what actually happened to them rather than things they were told (hearsay)? With as little opinion creeping in as possible? E. g. We should not say the girl was cute or ugly? We cannot say the bar was too dark or the music sucked? Perhaps you mean experience reports with some perceptions are better than arguing about some girl or place that someone did not visit or try?

Not sure I get it. I do understand that reports should have information or data that can be used. Sometimes we report information that we have heard. This cannot be interpreted as pure fact, but sometimes the stories are consistent enough, to assume there is a chance they maybe correct.

I must admit I don't like guys casting aspersions on places or girls that they did not personally try out. I really used to hate Nic Frenchy quoting the post made by some dipstick on another forum but not willing to own the opinion, or commenting on character of a girl he never tried from scuttlebutt, rather than his own opinion from his own experience. The later were valuable and funny, so why he did the other is a big mystery.

Most of us don't accept anything as gospel, till we see it for ourselves. Healthy scepticism. However I use reviews to decide what things to maybe try for myself.

[Asian Rain]

We could have a separate thread for the special group of PSE Oilies, not just isolating Tulip, and another thread for all the other Oilies, like Addict, Dream Heaven, Orient, Pink, Can Cam, Angels, EZ etc.

Why not make a User Blog thread? My biggest challenge with being an ISG member is that good information gets buried under useless reports, quips, bickering, newbie questions, etc. , making the signal-to-noise ratio a struggle. For example, the current back-and-forth on "how much the girl gets" is really about as useful as a tit on my elbow. I have just started a blog on Cart Bars, which will be restricted largely to factual REPORTS. All sources welcome. As an authoritative figure on Crazy House, you could summarize all the good reports you have made on CH and then we can make builds. In fact, I have some reports to make on CH, so if you care to make a blog, it would be very useful to see the good information organized and built in one spot without buildup of useless topping. More importantly, any less-than-useful reports (e.g. discussion on comparisons of Cowboy to Nana) or troll-like behavior can be deleted as we should be moderators. The general Bangkok Thread is okay, but it is all over the place.

Like what Bkkdog is doing for Sephan Kwai venues. It's great.

Same for the thread on massage places. A blog restricted to factual REPORTS would be a blessing. IMHO this would make ISG a much more informative resource and worth contributing, especially for regular contributors. For consideration. AR.

[Whoreman]

So it doesn't make much sense that at the PSE oilies the girl gets 1500 baht regardless of time, number of shots or number of orifices filled. I can only assume that those who do go for a 2 hour Viagra-fuelled binge are tipping generously because there's no shortage of girls in those places so they're clearly happy enough with the pay.

Other places have an extra charge for an extra shot or A+. That seems reasonable to me but presumably the business model of the PSE places is to maximise customer numbers and keep them coming back rather than squeeze as much money as possible out of each visit.

[Syzygies]

All the PSE oily gals get 1500. You can either pay it to them or the total to the shop. Never heard any of them talk about getting less.

Maybe and almost all other Oilies they get less (from all in price where no option to pay girl separately). Never heard them at other Oilies say get as much as 1500. You don't have to believe. You can ask at other standard Oilies with all in price but I presume you don't use those type of shops.

We could have a separate thread for the special group of PSE Oilies, not just isolating Tulip, and another thread for all the other Oilies, like Addict, Dream Heaven, Orient, Pink, Can Cam, Angels, EZ etc.

[Goatscrot]

You can hate it all you want, but multiple pops are the #1 crucial question when choosing a naughty massage parlor.

Once upon a time, when a shag cost 1000 baht or so and girls were generally far less eager to leave (if not better in bed), the advice to just be reasonable might have made some sense. These days, an average monger is overwhelmingly likely to get a 20 min session for 2500 baht if they fail to assert their expectations. Unless the girls looks exceptional (almost none do), if there's no option of the 2nd pop, that's remarkably crappy value, I'd rather wank and have 3 great dinners.

Of course, if you can only pop once within 2 h (however long it takes you), the question is moot, but most mongers are not of this variety, especially with the cheap and effective medication available these days.

Agreed! MSOG is essential in an oily. If not, what's the point of paying all that money for 2 hrs? I'm with you. I'd rather have a wank, a few craft beers, and some food.

[Goatscrot]

Yes these shops are unusual. Most Oilies are paying the girl less than 1500. 1400 is common and some even less.

Annies has little difference to some Oilies in my view other than has a fishbowl. However I don't want this to send the topic in a Tangent. I could be biased as I never ask for a real Thai massage.

I have very nice Jacuzzi bath in a VIP room in New Massage and had a Nuru body slide. The girl slid around on me using her ass and pussy and tits quite erotically. Who needs an "official" soapy. Oilies can be same or better. VIP room was good standard too. Perhaps bed a bit on firm side. Cost 200 Baht extra. Soapy fishbowl behind glass is a waste of time if cannot sit outside the fishbowl for long period watching the girls and having a drink.

All the PSE oily gals get 1500. You can either pay it to them or the total to the shop. Never heard any of them talk about getting less.

[Syzygies]

We're not talking about Annies or BJ bars here but the oil massage places. In a typical shop like Snow White or Cherry there's a price list for the massage of 400,600 or 800 baht for 60,90 and 120 minutes. You can either pay the money for the massage and give the girl 1500 baht after or you can pay the total up front. Either way I'm fairly sure the 1500 goes straight to the girl.

Yes these shops are unusual. Most Oilies are paying the girl less than 1500. 1400 is common and some even less.

Annies has little difference to some Oilies in my view other than has a fishbowl. However I don't want this to send the topic in a Tangent. I could be biased as I never ask for a real Thai massage.

I have very nice Jacuzzi bath in a VIP room in New Massage and had a Nuru body slide. The girl slid around on me using her ass and pussy and tits quite erotically. Who needs an "official" soapy. Oilies can be same or better. VIP room was good standard too. Perhaps bed a bit on firm side. Cost 200 Baht extra. Soapy fishbowl behind glass is a waste of time if cannot sit outside the fishbowl for long period watching the girls and having a drink.

[Whoreman]

If the fee is 1900, most shops will not pay the girl 1500. Perhpas you refer to a particular shop.

We're not talking about Annies or BJ bars here but the oil massage places. In a typical shop like Snow White or Cherry there's a price list for the massage of 400,600 or 800 baht for 60,90 and 120 minutes. You can either pay the money for the massage and give the girl 1500 baht after or you can pay the total up front. Either way I'm fairly sure the 1500 goes straight to the girl.

[Syzygies]

The pricing at the MPs seems unfair on the girl. I go for one hour and one pop for 1900 baht. The girl get 1500 baht. Some other guy goes for 2 hours and 5 pops for 2300 baht. The girl gets 1500 baht. All right, the customer has the discretion to tip but if you're a new customer the girl has no idea whether you're going to or not. A few places like Miss BJ are more specific in their pricing, charging more for extra pops, and while the customers might grumble it seems a lot fairer.

You are not correct about the girl take. It depends a lot on the particular shop.

At New massage, the girl take depends a lot on the cost of the booking. But sure on a per time basis for two hours she makes less per hour. It is not fair if guy wants to fuck the entire time regardless of the number of pops.

If the fee is 1900, most shops will not pay the girl 1500. Perhpas you refer to a particular shop. Many shops the girl cut is less. 1400 is not uncommon but she gets charged for basket supplies and other things as well.

Some shops the girl can be getting only 1000 out of an over 2000 price, I. E. Less than half in some shops, e. G. Annies. Sone Oilies the girl cut is low too. Loli-tas was another shop where girl cut was rather low.

There are relatively few shops where a girl gets 1500 out of the all in fee.

I vary my tip fir girl based on her cut if known and based on how hard I made her work and how much time. I try to be very fair. I want girls to be keen on having me as a customer despite fucking for long duration. If not, I would not get the best GFE. I have been refused by girls before, but rarely fortunately, not counting Thermae.

[Whoreman]

The pricing at the MPs seems unfair on the girl. I go for one hour and one pop for 1900 baht. The girl get 1500 baht. Some other guy goes for 2 hours and 5 pops for 2300 baht. The girl gets 1500 baht. All right, the customer has the discretion to tip but if you're a new customer the girl has no idea whether you're going to or not. A few places like Miss BJ are more specific in their pricing, charging more for extra pops, and while the customers might grumble it seems a lot fairer.

[Syzygies]

You can hate it all you want, but multiple pops are the #1 crucial question when choosing a naughty massage parlor.
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So does the answer to the question only depend on shop policy or perhaps depends on the girl as well? I don't know.

The question does not seem to come up so much with gogo girls. So does that mean 1 pop is always assumed no matter how fast it was?

Do guys ever pretend not to have popped in order to get another one?

[LA Guy 5]

Is New Massage a multi-pop shop? I've a few days in BKK at the end of the month and am weighing options. This place is intriguing.

I hate this question. It always arises.

It is a reasonable and useful question, which is why it is often asked about particular shops. The answer can range from "generally yes" at the PSE shops to "maybe" to "no," at some of the less service oriented shops. There is nothing tricky or complicated about this.

I, however, am unfamiliar with the practices at New Massage, so cannot answer the question.

[Crocodilexp]

I hate this question (about multiple pops)... Just be reasonable, I would suggest.

You can hate it all you want, but multiple pops are the #1 crucial question when choosing a naughty massage parlor.

Once upon a time, when a shag cost 1000 baht or so and girls were generally far less eager to leave (if not better in bed), the advice to just be reasonable might have made some sense. These days, an average monger is overwhelmingly likely to get a 20 min session for 2500 baht if they fail to assert their expectations. Unless the girls looks exceptional (almost none do), if there's no option of the 2nd pop, that's remarkably crappy value, I'd rather wank and have 3 great dinners.

Of course, if you can only pop once within 2 h (however long it takes you), the question is moot, but most mongers are not of this variety, especially with the cheap and effective medication available these days.

[Justemp]

I hate this question. It always arises. What is going to happen? Suppose you booked a 2 hour session, and you cum on the first time she touches your leg. What are you going to do with the remaining 2 hours? No fuck at all? Of course not. However if you want to fuck solid, for the entire 2 hours the girl is more than likely not going to co-operate.

Just be reasonable, I would suggest. I am never asking a girl how many pops are allowed, since I take a loooong time to cum. It would be totally unreasonable for me to ask for a 2nd in this circumstance. We already fucked for a time much longer than normal or average I suspect (based on what others tell me). I even take a break from fucking for a few minutes and then resume again. This causes my sensitivity to improve after the break.

There have been occasions in my history when I was able to Cum fairly easily and I there was plenty of time left so did get hard again and have a 2nd round. This is unusual for me, so hence I know little about the number of pops topic. I am always more than happy to service the girl to give her multiple pops if she wants them.

I have no clues at all about shop rules for number of pops allowed. I have no clue how any given girl would decide what is reasonable. More than likely depends on the particular girl, whether she likes you or not, whether you are a pounder or not, etc.

Only certain special shops more or less indicate that you can fuck for the entire time if you want to. New Massage would not be in that category.

There is always Viagra and red bull available.