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Yesterday I visited Bongkot Massage on soi 22 (first subsoi right). Another oily-massage. First time for me here. I was not impressed by the line-up, only four girls available at sunset. So fewer than at Mango and Orient, but I may have been unlucky. I went by the least chybby one. LOL. I don't remember her name, but she used an English name with two syllabels. She was in fact very nice and gave good service. Her tongue was all over me! Also A+. Good sense of humour, and horny too. After the first session she gave me regular massage (on the legs). And then she wanted another session, something I usually don't do, at least not in an hour. But we went over time with half an hour!
So, yes, it was another good one, and even if the programme is always the same in these places, there is also some variation and some surprises.
Originally Posted by JohnTraveller
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I visited Mangos massage on soi 24 (subsoi to the left) recently and was surprised by the line-up. Several of the girls were in fact pretty, and not very old either. Seemed much better than my last visit two years ago. I got in and asked to choose girl. I picked Ee (spelling?) And a good choice she was. Exellent service with the usual stuff you get in an oily massage place. 2100 baht for one hour. Also A+.
Some weeks later I wanted to go there again, but then I was lured into nearby Orient massage. First time in this place for me. I chosed girl and up we went. Also this place is the same standard oil-massage style I like. I don't remember her name, but her pussy was so good that I forgot to ask for A+. Also here 2100 baht.
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Mango memories
Originally Posted by Traveler1234
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The original Bo, pre-boob job and of course Cat!
Yes, Cat was indeed very nice. My personal favorite during that era was Soda -- beautiful girl from the north who gave great PSE / GFE service! And even further back, Kan -- sweet girl, great kisser with a nice rack. Had many memorable overnights with Mango babes in those good ole days.
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Originally Posted by Dan7373
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Yes, "most women will tell the truth given the right circumstances". And that's the problem with such a survey. When you look for the right circumstances to ask women, then you end up talking to women at the hook-up websites and in the sex industry. Which can be either hidden and small or big and open, depending on the laws and the government attitude in the country.
The only way to get statistically valid results for the whole population is to ask people at random from the whole population and not from some select group of people, who are easy to ask and who will likely answer your questions.
I googled as you suggested. And I found articles that say what the results of this survey are. But I didn't find any description of how the participants in this survey were selected.
From my personal experience, I agree with you that it's a lot easier and safer to find available women in Thailand than in vast majority of western countries. This is a big reason why so many people from Europe and North America visit Thailand, rather than stay home and look for available women there.
This is probably because western countries have only recently changed their culture and attitudes towards casual sex. Western countries used to be as restrictive about it in the past, as most Muslim countries are now. Christian and Muslim religions used to have very similar attitudes towards casual sex. And western countries were very Christian, until recently.
But Thailand never had any kind of ideology that restricted and condemned casual sex to the same extent as Christian and Muslim religions did.
If there is little to no risk of getting caught, Thais will do what they want to do. They don't feel "guilt" like Western folks do. That is the double edged sword of a face based culture. Methinks that explains a bit of the promiscuity. That and the fact that Thailand has been going through a serious sexual revolution for over a decade now. Also women are making money. Thailand has more female CEOs than any other country.
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Originally Posted by Goatscrot
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Truth be told I have not really enjoyed Mango since the days of Cherry, Apple, Ann, Mook, and Bo.
The original Bo, pre-boob job and of course Cat!
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Originally Posted by Goatscrot
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I would agree that Western women are more extreme. Far more. Most Thai chicks, even P4 P gals are not very experimental. And fetishes? Forget it. All my gals back home were far more vocal, loved dirty talk, loved to be nasty, reveled in seduction, etc.
I will say that in my experience Thai women are far more promiscuous than Western gals. Most women will tell the truth given the right circumstances. You can google "Thailand named most adulterous country in the world. " Women from Ghana were on par.
Yes, "most women will tell the truth given the right circumstances". And that's the problem with such a survey. When you look for the right circumstances to ask women, then you end up talking to women at the hook-up websites and in the sex industry. Which can be either hidden and small or big and open, depending on the laws and the government attitude in the country.
The only way to get statistically valid results for the whole population is to ask people at random from the whole population and not from some select group of people, who are easy to ask and who will likely answer your questions.
I googled as you suggested. And I found articles that say what the results of this survey are. But I didn't find any description of how the participants in this survey were selected.
From my personal experience, I agree with you that it's a lot easier and safer to find available women in Thailand than in vast majority of western countries. This is a big reason why so many people from Europe and North America visit Thailand, rather than stay home and look for available women there.
This is probably because western countries have only recently changed their culture and attitudes towards casual sex. Western countries used to be as restrictive about it in the past, as most Muslim countries are now. Christian and Muslim religions used to have very similar attitudes towards casual sex. And western countries were very Christian, until recently.
But Thailand never had any kind of ideology that restricted and condemned casual sex to the same extent as Christian and Muslim religions did.
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Originally Posted by Mjen1970
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My little PSE mongering route is to start with Bongkot on 22 then onto Mango on 24 then a walk down 24/1 and hang a left and across the road into snow white (normally snow white is my banker), If no-one at all appeals then its back on the BTS and up to Tulip. Now thinking about it, I've never even stuck my head into EZ or addict, are they in that little cluster on 24/1??
For beautiful girls I head to Nataree but I may give the Lord a try on my next trip, which is a long 128 days away.
There are a few MPs within a few steps from Mango. EZ is next door and Addict very close plus others. Not so PSE though.
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Originally Posted by Syzygies
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Any place is hit and miss with the line up. You just visit a succession of possible nearby places until you find something appealing. Addict is nearby, EZ, etc. Addict has a large line up so finding a pretty one may be more likely than other shops with less girls. Leaving a shop empty handed is no big deal for me. I do that more often than not, if not booked with a specific girl. No problem. Look in the next one.
Some places are a disappointment a bit too regularly. Snow White has been disappointing for me quite a few times with mostly chunky girls available at the time. Mango has a better success rate for me as far as looks goes (which is a very important factor for me). I usually also take a look in Can Cam and Boss who often have prettier girls.
My little PSE mongering route is to start with Bongkot on 22 then onto Mango on 24 then a walk down 24/1 and hang a left and across the road into snow white (normally snow white is my banker), If no-one at all appeals then its back on the BTS and up to Tulip. Now thinking about it, I've never even stuck my head into EZ or addict, are they in that little cluster on 24/1??
For beautiful girls I head to Nataree but I may give the Lord a try on my next trip, which is a long 128 days away.
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Originally Posted by Dan7373
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I've had a conversation about this why my Thai girlfriend, and she was sure that western women were doing far more extreme sex-acts with their guys than she has ever done. And she was so sure, because that's what she saw in a porn movie. I lost my argument with her, because anal and DP are very common sex-acts in porn-movies nowadays, but my Thai girlfriend has never done something like this with guys.
You had better show some sicko porn with Thai girls in it. It can be the same. Then explain that it is the director who is the sicko trying to go more and more extreme to satisfy a sicko audience, who want to act out what they see on extreme porn, like they were brainwashed. The actresses in porn have to do what they are told to make the money, unless they have extreme beauty and can do beauty type of porn. Sure I like some porn, but my tastes are to the more arty beauty types. Likewise I don't like Pat Pong style sex shows in bars, like smoking pussy. I like something more erotic, like a lesbian show.
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Originally Posted by Dan7373
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I'd like to see a description of this recent study. Because I find it hard to believe that women would answer honestly about how many guys they've been sleeping with. This is the kind of thing women are more likely to lie about than anything else, especially in countries where a woman can get murdered by her relatives for even smiling at a wrong guy.
In Thailand, many people would say that western women the are the most promiscuous in the world, because that's the kind of women they see in porn-pictures on the Internet.
I've had a conversation about this why my Thai girlfriend, and she was sure that western women were doing far more extreme sex-acts with their guys than she has ever done. And she was so sure, because that's what she saw in a porn movie. I lost my argument with her, because anal and DP are very common sex-acts in porn-movies nowadays, but my Thai girlfriend has never done something like this with guys.
I would agree that Western women are more extreme. Far more. Most Thai chicks, even P4 P gals are not very experimental. And fetishes? Forget it. All my gals back home were far more vocal, loved dirty talk, loved to be nasty, reveled in seduction, etc.
I will say that in my experience Thai women are far more promiscuous than Western gals. Most women will tell the truth given the right circumstances. You can google "Thailand named most adulterous country in the world. " Women from Ghana were on par.
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Originally Posted by Goatscrot
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Thai women are the second most promiscuous females on the planet according to a recent study. Most are very unlikely to restrict their activities to one guy, be they P4P or "regular" gals. Of course I would say this is a far more normal state than the monogamy so many worship in many parts of the West. I for one don't really care how many dudes the gal is doing. Quick shower and she is good as new. I am not in the hobby to feel "special. " In fact, I like an experiences gal with a well developed skill set.
I'd like to see a description of this recent study. Because I find it hard to believe that women would answer honestly about how many guys they've been sleeping with. This is the kind of thing women are more likely to lie about than anything else, especially in countries where a woman can get murdered by her relatives for even smiling at a wrong guy.
In Thailand, many people would say that western women the are the most promiscuous in the world, because that's the kind of women they see in porn-pictures on the Internet.
I've had a conversation about this why my Thai girlfriend, and she was sure that western women were doing far more extreme sex-acts with their guys than she has ever done. And she was so sure, because that's what she saw in a porn movie. I lost my argument with her, because anal and DP are very common sex-acts in porn-movies nowadays, but my Thai girlfriend has never done something like this with guys.
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Originally Posted by Syzygies
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My idea for an ideal MP would be to have all the girls wearing skimpy knickers and sleek silky short wrap dressing gowns, no bras or see through bras, and be able to adjust the dressing gown to expose tits (or partially) during the line up.
I'd be a regular at that MP for sure! My trick is to look at the girls at Addict sideways as they walk towards the line-up. From the left profile they cannot hide anything.
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Originally Posted by Mjen1970
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Mango is so hit and miss. I've had some of my best sessions in there with Wan and Mud amongst others but I was there over thanksgiving and it was a sorry state of affairs. Maybe I'll stick my head in next time I am there in May.
Truth be told I have not really enjoyed Mango since the days of Cherry, Apple, Ann, Mook, and Bo.
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Originally Posted by Syzygies
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Its possible to have strong romantic feelings for more than one girl at the same time, and still be fucking some other ones when excessively horny. I have also been in situation of having feelings too strong with more than one girl, and pondering if was possible to dump either of them and continue with just one. One of them picked another guy first, so my decision was not needed. Naturally, having zero girlfriends and freedom is the best scenario,
Guess I would have to go with Milan Kundera on this one.
"Making love with a woman and sleeping with a woman are two separate passions, not merely different but opposite. Love does not make itself felt in the desire for copulation (a desire that extends to an infinite number of women) but in the desire for shared sleep (a desire limited to one woman). ".
Milan Kundera, The Unbearable Lightness of Being.
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Originally Posted by Mjen1970
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Mango is so hit and miss. I've had some of my best sessions in there with Wan and Mud amongst others but I was there over thanksgiving and it was a sorry state of affairs. Maybe I'll stick my head in next time I am there in May.
Any place is hit and miss with the line up. You just visit a succession of possible nearby places until you find something appealing. Addict is nearby, EZ, etc. Addict has a large line up so finding a pretty one may be more likely than other shops with less girls. Leaving a shop empty handed is no big deal for me. I do that more often than not, if not booked with a specific girl. No problem. Look in the next one.
Some places are a disappointment a bit too regularly. Snow White has been disappointing for me quite a few times with mostly chunky girls available at the time. Mango has a better success rate for me as far as looks goes (which is a very important factor for me). I usually also take a look in Can Cam and Boss who often have prettier girls.
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Originally Posted by EihTooms
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From what I have read, "Adultery" is one of the general grounds for divorce under Thai family law. But only if it is the wife who has committed adultery. No such restriction or grounds exists for the husband. Might be a reason Thai wives don't screw around as much. Or, at least, why they work harder to keep it a secret. LOL.
Its more of a cultural thing that married ladies don't screw around, where in some other countries it may be more normal.
I believe it's quite difficult for a Thai lady to get divorced from a legal certificate marriage, unless the husband agrees to it and is willing to sign the papers. This sometimes costs money. I. e. The husband wants a certain amount of money to sign. Is a common blackmail method. My GF was once in this situation. She had run away from her abusive husband long ago, effectively disappearing from him, but was not divorced. Somehow he notified someone in her family that he needed money for a parent's hospital costs and was willing to agree to divorce and legally give away child custody in exchange for a sum. It was very important that he not find out about me (a Farang). If so, divorce cost could suddenly have escalated badly.
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