Bangkok Massage Parlors - Except TULIP and ANNIES!

[Dan7373]

....And she sees about every guy going to BKK, she is just truly horny and does not really care who she fucks (no I won't share details, she is on tinder, thaifriendly, cupid etc. Look around) For me p4p in BKK is easy, cheap and available 24/7.

On the other hand some other countries are much better going non-p4p (e. G. Taiwan) p4p is bloody expensive there and lots of non-p4p girls are willing to fuck a westerner just because you are exotic to them....

I was thinking more about monogamous women, who restrict themselves to one relationship with only one guy. That's the kind of relationship most people think of, when they talk about romance.

If the lady has many boyfriends, and she is especially interested in western guys, then there isn't much difference between her and the regular P4P ladies. Because your relationship with her isn't exclusive. You are sharing her with other guys. The only real difference is that you don't give her any money. Which isn't a big deal, unless you can't afford it.

The thing about being friends with such women, whether they are P4P or not, is that they all understand a guy who is nice to them, and they usually respond with some affection of their own. That's what the GFE experience is all about. And you can get it with your P4P lady too.

[Kanta123]

I'm not sure if I like this standard of first round FS and second round HJ.

Because your first round is after you haven't had sex for a while. Which means that your balls are already so full of cum that you can't last for long with the lady. Your first round is more like a quick relief, than full enjoyment with her.

But you start your second round with empty balls. You need to work that hot chick with your dick to build up your second cum with her. Which means that this is when you get to last and nail the hot lady the way you want.

The only thing about the second round is that your hot lady needs to be well-lubricated and ready. Or else you lasting for a long time with her might injure her. When your rubber goes dry, and your lady doesn't have much lubrication, then this can quickly give the lady some rubber burns and make her unfit to do it with other guys.

The lady needs to be good at making herself ready and lubing herself up, when she goes for a second FS round with a guy. Because this is when her guy is going to last, even when he does her hard-and-fast.

But this is completely doable, and Annie's Massage is a good example of this. At Annie's Massage, the standard is BJ and HJ for your first round and FS for your second round. Annie's Massage ladies make their guys last every time. And apparently they do it without getting injured.

I'd say that Mitu's Massage standard of first round FS and second round HJ makes it easy for untrained and unskilled ladies. The lady doesn't need much skill or experience to take a guy like this. But I'm not sure that this is a good arrangement in terms of customer service. Why not train the ladies and make them good at it, instead of making it easy for them to perform without any training and skills?

To further comment on Mitu on Soi 33. I agree with the above that FS 1st round then HJ or similar last round is not the optimal combination.

I would summarize it like this. If FS and fucking is what you desire, avoid Mitu. Go to PSE shops like Cherry, Mango etc. There usually, the massage is a bit shitty, but women are able to consume cock for breakfast, lunch and dinner and then ask for deserts. (You still need to treat them well to get the optimal experience. Make them feel safe with you.).

However Mitu is more of an relaxation facility. Don't expect hardcore fucking, don't expect anal, don't expect any crazy extras. Girls are young and shy. More used to Asian men then Farangs.

But! If you have had a stressful day (f. Ex. Sore back and some neck pain from a 3 some last evening). Management and girls at Mitu will provide ultimate relaxation. You really don't have to do shit. You stand there. They undress you, bath you, massage you, shower you, give you a cathbath, best Nuru (only with VIP room), slide around your body. This should be enough, but they are also kind enough to sit on your pole and ride you.

And even after finishing management is asking how it was, any comments on the girl etc. Ice-cream detail etc.

My best tip is just to be gentle and patient with them and let them do their thing. If you try and take control in "mitu" you are likely to have a bad experience as girls will be confused. Their English is also limited. Seems to me like they have not worked other places before.

Mitu is also pricey for Bangkok. So if you are looking primarily for a good fuck, there are other places to go.

[AirlineCrew]

That's why this is something I won't even try. I'd rather go to a bar or to a massage parlor, where I know for sure that all of the women are available. It feels stupid to me to get rejected many times due lack of information. The non-P4P scene simply isn't set up for available people to find each other and make friends with each other. It's a huge waste of time and emotions in my opinion.

Yes and no, I travel a lot obviously, and I agree that I also found doing non p4 p in BKK is a waste of time, at least that's true for me. I have limited time in BKK when I'm there so I want certainty. Only one girl I still see I know from my non p4 p days. And she sees about every guy going to BKK, she is just truly horny and does not really care who she fucks (no I won't share details, she is on tinder, thaifriendly, cupid etc. Look around) For me p4 p in BKK is easy, cheap and available 24/7.

On the other hand some other countries are much better going non-p4 p (e. G. Taiwan) p4 p is bloody expensive there and lots of non-p4 p girls are willing to fuck a westerner just because you are exotic to them. In Taiwan I have about 10 girls I see regularly I even have to devide them over my trips there, decide who I will meet this time. Going as far as trying to remember who has her period when and take that into consideration when trying to make a certain schedule even LOL.

So for me Thailand is p4 p only with one exception, and Taiwan (and others) are non p4 p only.

I applaud him though for using his cards and trying to see which girls take the bait, it's something different. I would get some cards though with my Line or Wechat ID on it and write them a personal message like: text me! Or something so it feels more special to the girl.

[Dan7373]

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I am surprised that you got 7 bites from 40 cards. An interesting technique. Not for me as I don't really want dates, but has some possibilities and some drawbacks....

The more attractive the woman, the more likely she is to be involved in a relationship with a guy. Because that's the kind of women guys go after.

An attractive non-P4P woman is very like to be already involved with some guy, when you approach her. And if she is P4P, then she has many guys after her, and she is involved with all of them.

That's why you get such poor statistics, with non-P4P women. The woman might be married or have a steady boyfriend, when you approach her at random, without even finding out if she is available or not.

Approaching potentially unavailable women usually leads to a lot of rejections. And there is no reliable way to know whether the woman is available or not. Because smiling and flirting is something married women do too. This isn't considered cheating. And in Thailand, it's not customary for married women to wear a wedding band. This is a western tradition that doesn't exist in Thailand.

Non-P4P women are difficult for guys, not necessarily because they want to make it difficult for you. But this is just a natural consequence of looking for an attractive woman among mostly un-available attractive women. You don't even know whom to approach. And you risk offending the lady too, if she happens to be married or engaged.

That's why this is something I won't even try. I'd rather go to a bar or to a massage parlor, where I know for sure that all of the women are available. It feels stupid to me to get rejected many times due lack of information. The non-P4P scene simply isn't set up for available people to find each other and make friends with each other. It's a huge waste of time and emotions in my opinion.

[EihTooms]

Moving on I decided on this trip I would seek out romance not the marrying kind of romance but something more than the impersonal pay and shag so I had some cards printed with my number and the message" If you would like to meet again, call me". The plan was to hand them out to shop assistants, waitresses anybody that met the criteria which was that there had to be some semblance of a connection however vague or imagined, an exchange in English, eye contact and a sweet smile. Mostly I worked the shopping malls Terminal 21 and Central World being my favorites. I always carried a map and used it as a prop to ask directions from somebody I fancied. Sex was not going to be the objective more a consequence of getting to know her.

Reality check: I'm mid-fifties, in decent shape, recognize the value of good clothes and grooming but I am under no illusion that they were going to call because I reminded them of their favorite Korean pop star. So why would they?, curiosity, financial reward who knows? I wasn't sure any would but believe it or not some did.

Over 10 days from some 40 cards I got 7 calls with the following results. Need to mention I made a mistake with the first date taking her to Rossano's on 23 my favorite Italian restaurant. She didn't like western food. Thereafter I always met up in Gulliver's on 5. Ok how did it work out? The shortest date was less than 30 minutes of near silence with a phone addict. Two lasted less than an hour, after listening to as many tales of woe as anybody should reasonably be expected to. Two said they would stay with me but wanted to know how much I would pay them but two are now I guess you could call girlfriends. I take care of them with "gifts" but I didn't give anything the first time they stayed with me. One that I met at an ice cream stall in Terminal 21 is a real honey that I am getting way too fond of.

For me this works, firstly I enjoy the process of meeting the girls and handing out the cards and secondly there is the excitement of wondering who if anybody will call or text. I know some members use apps in much the same way but they end more being more like blind dates which have never worked out for me even if it was how one of my favorite artists met his wife Iman. Are. I. P. David, you were one of a kind.

I guess my resistence to the idea of handing a girl a pre-printed card with a message like that on it is it looks like you had cards printed up with a message like that to hand out as many as possible with the least amount of effort in order to see how many takers you could catch. From the girl's point of view, that is. I get from your scenario that you were more selective than that, but each girl would not know that.

Sounds like you got 2 "real" girl responses out of 40 handouts amid mostly responses from P4 P types you wouldn't have needed a card for (but an interesting way to identify them in places or in jobs you might not expect!) and you actually don't sound like you are all that certain you could consider those two girlfriends.

I wonder how much more success you would have had with some of the better girls in those 40 if, after the map bit and a brief conversation, you had simply pulled out a blank piece of paper and hand written that same message to hand to the girl. Much more personal and impulsively romantic, showing her she is not just one of perhaps hundreds as far as she knows.

[JohnM4814]

I'm well into the third week of my third visit. I am not that presumptuous to believe I am some kind of expert on the scene here but it's a different feeling this time around. Gone are the hesitations especially of my first visit when I venture out around midday from the Marriott on 57. Great Hotel!
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Reality check: I'm mid-fifties, in decent shape, recognize the value of good clothes and grooming but I am under no illusion that they were going to call because I reminded them of their favorite Korean pop star. So why would they?, curiosity, financial reward who knows? I wasn't sure any would but believe it or not some did....

Hi Gerry,

Thanks for the post. I am first time in BKK (only one week to test the waters). Could you please share a couple of starting points for me, since it seems we are somewhat similar. I am 50, slim and fit. Mainly, a reasonable cost (2000-3000) + reasonable sex with slim 25 yo. I find it irritating to pay lady drinks and not knowing if I could take the girl out, etc. Plus I do not drink much these days (I do not want to sit and drink in Go Go bars for hours).

Also, what is your feedback on ThaiCupid? It seems like a good way of spending daytime on dates. My only problem is what to do with the ugly / fat ones when they show up on the dates. I do not want to be rude. So money / time is wasted. I got 4-5 replies, so I am thinking what to do with them today.

[Syzygies]

I had visited Annie's on my first trip without staying but due to it being regularly touted by a senior member of this forum I gave it another try. It took all my resolve not to walk out. Their lineup is just too substandard. Anyway I picked the best of the fishbowl and yes she tried but the combination of the tacky amenities and the lack of looks was too challenging.

If no one appeals, can walk out and try somewhere else. That is what I do. I have probably left Annies empty handed more often than not, if I have not booked a specific girl. Nice girls exist, but can be busy or wrong time of day. My 3 good girls I booked last year were all as a consequence of having spotted them previously at Annies (or BJ Nuru) or outside on the street. None were picked from the fishbowl line up the first time I fucked them. You can be lucky with the fishbowl line up, or not. Come to think of it, I have only picked a girl directly from the Annies fishbowl on 3 occasions over several years. Numbers 36, 99 (mistake), and one other I forget. I have been for a look many more times than that.

I am surprised that you got 7 bites from 40 cards. An interesting technique. Not for me as I don't really want dates, but has some possibilities and some drawbacks.

Would be nice to hear a bit more about Bit Style, and the Ratchada/Petchburi soapies.

[Mjen1970]

In my experience for what its worth if are you looking for in-house fun, for PSE you go to the usual suspects I. E. Oilies on 22 and 24, for looks go to the soapies on Ratchada and Phetchaburi.

Wise words, I could not agree more.

Moving on I decided on this trip I would seek out romance not the marrying kind of romance but something more than the impersonal pay and shag so I had some cards printed with my number and the message" If you would like to meet again, call me". The plan was to hand them out to shop assistants, waitresses anybody that met the criteria which was that there had to be some semblance of a connection however vague or imagined, an exchange in English, eye contact and a sweet smile. Mostly I worked the shopping malls Terminal 21 and Central World being my favorites. I always carried a map and used it as a prop to ask directions from somebody I fancied. Sex was not going to be the objective more a consequence of getting to know her.

Reality check: I'm mid-fifties, in decent shape, recognize the value of good clothes and grooming but I am under no illusion that they were going to call because I reminded them of their favorite Korean pop star. So why would they?, curiosity, financial reward who knows? I wasn't sure any would but believe it or not some did.

Over 10 days from some 40 cards I got 7 calls with the following results. Need to mention I made a mistake with the first date taking her to Rossano's on 23 my favorite Italian restaurant. She didn't like western food. Thereafter I always met up in Gulliver's on 5. Ok how did it work out? The shortest date was less than 30 minutes of near silence with a phone addict. Two lasted less than an hour, after listening to as many tales of woe as anybody should reasonably be expected to. Two said they would stay with me but wanted to know how much I would pay them but two are now I guess you could call girlfriends. I take care of them with "gifts" but I didn't give anything the first time they stayed with me. One that I met at an ice cream stall in Terminal 21 is a real honey that I am getting way too fond of.

For me this works, firstly I enjoy the process of meeting the girls and handing out the cards and secondly there is the excitement of wondering who if anybody will call or text. I know some members use apps in much the same way but they end more being more like blind dates which have never worked out for me even if it was how one of my favorite artists met his wife Iman. Are. I. P. David, you were one of a kind.

I'm impressed, not a bad idea at all with the cards and the map. Nice planning and good for you that it bore a couple of results!

[GerryGa]

I'm well into the third week of my third visit. I am not that presumptuous to believe I am some kind of expert on the scene here but it's a different feeling this time around. Gone are the hesitations especially of my first visit when I venture out around midday from the Marriott on 57. Great Hotel!

As always after booking an appointment my first port of call is Tandy on 53 where the delicate hands of the delectable the get me in the mood for the day ahead. I've noticed from another forum that her reputation has spread which surprises me not at all. She is a Bangkok treasure.

During my first few days I checked the boxes on Nataree, Bit Style on 22 and Crazy Horse. As they say it was same same but all three yielded good results. I had visited Annie's on my first trip without staying but due to it being regularly touted by a senior member of this forum I gave it another try. It took all my resolve not to walk out. Their lineup is just too substandard. Anyway I picked the best of the fishbowl and yes she tried but the combination of the tacky amenities and the lack of looks was too challenging. In my experience for what its worth if are you looking for in-house fun, for PSE you go to the usual suspects I. E. Oilies on 22 and 24, for looks go to the soapies on Ratchada and Phetchaburi.

Moving on I decided on this trip I would seek out romance not the marrying kind of romance but something more than the impersonal pay and shag so I had some cards printed with my number and the message" If you would like to meet again, call me". The plan was to hand them out to shop assistants, waitresses anybody that met the criteria which was that there had to be some semblance of a connection however vague or imagined, an exchange in English, eye contact and a sweet smile. Mostly I worked the shopping malls Terminal 21 and Central World being my favorites. I always carried a map and used it as a prop to ask directions from somebody I fancied. Sex was not going to be the objective more a consequence of getting to know her.

Reality check: I'm mid-fifties, in decent shape, recognize the value of good clothes and grooming but I am under no illusion that they were going to call because I reminded them of their favorite Korean pop star. So why would they?, curiosity, financial reward who knows? I wasn't sure any would but believe it or not some did.

Over 10 days from some 40 cards I got 7 calls with the following results. Need to mention I made a mistake with the first date taking her to Rossano's on 23 my favorite Italian restaurant. She didn't like western food. Thereafter I always met up in Gulliver's on 5. Ok how did it work out? The shortest date was less than 30 minutes of near silence with a phone addict. Two lasted less than an hour, after listening to as many tales of woe as anybody should reasonably be expected to. Two said they would stay with me but wanted to know how much I would pay them but two are now I guess you could call girlfriends. I take care of them with "gifts" but I didn't give anything the first time they stayed with me. One that I met at an ice cream stall in Terminal 21 is a real honey that I am getting way too fond of.

For me this works, firstly I enjoy the process of meeting the girls and handing out the cards and secondly there is the excitement of wondering who if anybody will call or text. I know some members use apps in much the same way but they end more being more like blind dates which have never worked out for me even if it was how one of my favorite artists met his wife Iman. Are. I. P. David, you were one of a kind.

[Syzygies]

Thanks Dan! Funny you should mention #14 at Annie's since she is one of the ladies I had my eyes on once I land and check into my hotel. I was pretty sure it didn't mean lady boy but glad to have that confirmed!

As I know No. 14 Pheung (Bee) a bit now, I can make a few comments. Tom Boy means acts and dresses like a boy in public. Quite short. Can also dress like a hot woman. Has a hot woman's body. Can get it off with a man no problem but likes playing with naked girls just like me. One day she was in Crazy house with a take out customer. Came to me to say hello and that she looked forward to me doing take out with her too. Seems she is a bisexual. If with a pretty girl, she will take moreso the male role known as a Tom. With a guy she can take the female role just as easily although seems to quite like to do cowgirl on top. Could be an ideal choice for a threesome although I did not yet try. Could be she will say which girls she has the hots for most, at a guess. I don't see any similarity to a Ladyboy whatsoever. Think of a short Asian version of Halle Berry. Most importantly has a real nice pussy and not a dick. That really makes the difference. I can't mess with someone that has a dick. Natural Tits maybe C cup too. She can take it deep enthusiastically.

Recommended for B2B slide too. Nice kissing.

[Wanderer9577]

I think the word Tom-Boy describes only social behavior but not sexual orientation. Tom-Boys cut their hair short and dress like men. And they like to date women. But when it comes to having sex, then a Tom-Boy might or might not be a lesbian, a bi-sexual, or a heterosexual. This is something you can find out only by looking at each individual. Because the label, Tom-Boy, doesn't say anything about this.

A good example is lady #14 at www.anniesbangkok.com/staff.html. You could mistake her for a lady-boy, if you met her on the street. But in her revealing clothing at the website, she looks like a sexy woman, with a touch of masculinity. And her description at the website says that she "works with all ladies as a pair". Which makes her a bi-sexual. Because she does it with guys too.

I'd say that lady #14 would be good to have by your side, if you want to make it a 2 on 1 for some other hot lady, whom you really like. Because lady #14 will also go after the other chick, even while you are nailing her with your dick. It's like the two of you will team-up on one hot lady and together massage and nail her really well.

In porn movies, you often see two guys team up on one hot lady. And having a Tom-Boy by your side with another hot lady is somewhat similar to this. It means that you don't need to do all the work, while you pork. You can take it easy and watch the debauch, and then go back inside for another ride. There is no pressure on you to perform all the time, because you have a partner to entertain your hot lady, while you take it easy.

You could probably learn from lady #14 a thing or two about how to finger a sexy lady and bring her to orgasm this way. This kind of skill is good to have with any sexy lady. Because this is a way to make sexy ladies like you more, than they would otherwise.

Thanks Dan! Funny you should mention #14 at Annie's since she is one of the ladies I had my eyes on once I land and check into my hotel. I was pretty sure it didn't mean lady boy but glad to have that confirmed!

[ParkVille]

Thanks ParkVille.

I checked the Analisa webpage, looks good.

Any suggestions if I want to try massage from Europian lady??

Again not to be a jerk but Europe is the best place for European ladies. Similar to how if you want a good pizza you go to Italy, not Bangkok or New York. For example, "massage House" in Hungary (https://massagehouse.hu/en/erotic-massage-prices/) offers prices only slightly higher than Bangkok's standard rate. But I have to admit, based on the pictures of their website, those women are much hotter than the standard Isaan farm girl working at a brothel in Bangkok.

[Bang4444]

Thanks ParkVille.

I checked the Analisa webpage, looks good.

Any suggestions if I want to try massage from Europian lady??

Analisa and Honey Bee Massage are both on Soi 22. There is a little small side-road on Soi 22 that is basically the tantric / prostate / sensual / specialty massage alley. Each massage shop there offers specialty massages. As opposed to the typical pseudo-massage that is just a day-time brothel, they specialize in massage. Analisa is more into kinky stuff, Honey Bee is more sensual / tantric format. Also there is Akane Massage which is known for their prostate and rimming.

[Dan7373]

OK, this may be a stupid question but I am going to ask anyway. I am getting ready for my trip to Bangkok and Pattaya. Looking at some of the massage parlor websites I see some where they describe one or two girls as tom boys. The ones described as lady boys are obvious. So the question is, why are a couple of girls called tom boys? Does this mean they are bi-sexual? Curious minds and all that.

Thanks!

I think the word Tom-Boy describes only social behavior but not sexual orientation. Tom-Boys cut their hair short and dress like men. And they like to date women. But when it comes to having sex, then a Tom-Boy might or might not be a lesbian, a bi-sexual, or a heterosexual. This is something you can find out only by looking at each individual. Because the label, Tom-Boy, doesn't say anything about this.

A good example is lady #14 at www.anniesbangkok.com/staff.html. You could mistake her for a lady-boy, if you met her on the street. But in her revealing clothing at the website, she looks like a sexy woman, with a touch of masculinity. And her description at the website says that she "works with all ladies as a pair". Which makes her a bi-sexual. Because she does it with guys too.

I'd say that lady #14 would be good to have by your side, if you want to make it a 2 on 1 for some other hot lady, whom you really like. Because lady #14 will also go after the other chick, even while you are nailing her with your dick. It's like the two of you will team-up on one hot lady and together massage and nail her really well.

In porn movies, you often see two guys team up on one hot lady. And having a Tom-Boy by your side with another hot lady is somewhat similar to this. It means that you don't need to do all the work, while you pork. You can take it easy and watch the debauch, and then go back inside for another ride. There is no pressure on you to perform all the time, because you have a partner to entertain your hot lady, while you take it easy.

You could probably learn from lady #14 a thing or two about how to finger a sexy lady and bring her to orgasm this way. This kind of skill is good to have with any sexy lady. Because this is a way to make sexy ladies like you more, than they would otherwise.

[Michelangelo]

I'll be back in BKK in a couple of weeks. I've been thinking about revisiting Akane on Soi 33. I haven't been there in a couple of years, but I've always enjoyed myself. Their website has been redone, with a lot less information, like courses and prices. I am assuming that means a price hike. If anyone has been there lately, please do let me know any observations about pricing and service. Usually I've gotten the course where the second girl joins the action for the last half hour of the session. Thanks.

No prices have not changed. At least until last December when I last visited. Website has been redone to limit public information due to recent visits of police in massage places in the area. It is worth booking the same girl 2 or 3 times and you will see service / performance improving over time. My 2 regulars there always give ma a good time starting from showering together, great massage, BBBJ, 69 and FS without any discussion. Usually tip 300 THB on top of the listed price. Enjoy your visit.