Bangkok Massage Parlors - Except TULIP and ANNIES!

[SiamMan]

My guess is that many punters have a choice of BBFS or no FS at all.

Before age 64 years, I always wore a condom for FS with a pro. As I got older I become unable to complete multiple pops per day with a condom. My first pop was always covered and my second pop either didn't happen or it would be BB. As I age further, it is more and more difficult to use a condom, even for the first pop of the day. I will go BBFS when available and needed. I expect that soon I will be unable to use a condom at all, even if only 1 pop per week. BBBJ to completion seldom works for me. A HJ is just masturbation and of no interest to me.

There is a lot of truth in this. Being of advanced years myself, I find it is becoming more and more difficult to finish to completion with a condom. This often nowadays means aborting and finishing with a BBBJ. I avoid BBFS for health reasons (not just for myself, but also for my partner) unless it is with one of my regular girls who I already know well. This is one of the unfortunate realities of old age, however, it has made me realize the importance of using the best condom available. And after much research and experimentation I do find that the ultra-thin condoms on the market do make a big difference. So there is hope yet for a few more years of fun.

[Goatscrot]

Lube inside the condom helps a lot. It's often difficult to explain to the girl that lube needs to be on the inside. In February I found a Soi 24 girl who wouldn't allow lube on the inside, I didn't understand her reasoning. That same week I found another girl on Soi 7 who explained that different lubes should be on the inside versus the outside. Of course, the 2nd girl felt better.

It's a huge difference and it also helps prevent breakage. I found some confused looks at times myself, but when I explain to them that it helps to keep it from breaking they're quite amenable. I've found the Skyn condoms to be quite good. The L is a 56 and can be ordered online. I've also seen them available at Southeast pharmacy on the corner of Suk soi 15.

[HorseTrader]

In addition the right condom with plenty of lubricant inside is fantastic and almost no loss of sensation whatsoever.

Lube inside the condom helps a lot. It's often difficult to explain to the girl that lube needs to be on the inside. In February I found a Soi 24 girl who wouldn't allow lube on the inside, I didn't understand her reasoning. That same week I found another girl on Soi 7 who explained that different lubes should be on the inside versus the outside. Of course, the 2nd girl felt better.

[Goatscrot]

There is no way. I would think less than 10% to 20% do what you do. That is bang every girl without a condom.

Most of us that live in BKK probably have done it occassionally or have a regular that we have known for a while and have stopped bagging up with her.

IMHO 80% or more of punters would avoid BBFS first up due to the risk of a bad health outcome.

Agree with your analysis 100%.

[Goatscrot]

My guess is that many punters have a choice of BBFS or no FS at all.

Before age 64 years, I always wore a condom for FS with a pro. As I got older I become unable to complete multiple pops per day with a condom. My first pop was always covered and my second pop either didn't happen or it would be BB. As I age further, it is more and more difficult to use a condom, even for the first pop of the day. I will go BBFS when available and needed. I expect that soon I will be unable to use a condom at all, even if only 1 pop per week. BBBJ to completion seldom works for me. A HJ is just masturbation and of no interest to me.

After a BBFS session I always piss and thoroughly wash. After that I drink caffeine and that makes me piss even more. I still worry about STDs so I regularly get tested. About 10 days ago I got tested for 8 different potential problems, each was negative. I'll get tested multiple times during my next Thailand trip. I've also had a vasectomy, which I recommend for all those who do BBFS.

Well I am not debating that sensation lessons as we get older there are many things that we can do to lessen this issue. Making sure we are in good shape, eating well, not smoking, minimizing drinking, and taking care of our bodies in the best way we can. Yes, if you're overweight, out of shape, eat poorly, drink, and smoke you're going to have significantly less sensation as you age. I know lots of guys in their late 50's, 60's, and even 70's who can finish twice a day or more using a condom. In addition the right condom with plenty of lubricant inside is fantastic and almost no loss of sensation whatsoever.

[Goatscrot]

Virtually every expat and visiting punter I have met over the years is looking for BBFS+CIP and where to buy it from the moment they hit the airport arrival area..

Uh, well very few of the expats or regular I know are interested in BBFS and honestly I don't know anyone who has to creampie a girl to be satisfied. I firmly believe that those folks including yourself are in the minority.

The majority of hobbyists want to have a good time and stay healthy as quite a few have relationships where they come from or here and have enough concern for their partner to keep them healthy as well.

[HorseTrader]

IMHO 80% or more of punters would avoid BBFS first up due to the risk of a bad health outcome.

My guess is that many punters have a choice of BBFS or no FS at all.

Before age 64 years, I always wore a condom for FS with a pro. As I got older I become unable to complete multiple pops per day with a condom. My first pop was always covered and my second pop either didn't happen or it would be BB. As I age further, it is more and more difficult to use a condom, even for the first pop of the day. I will go BBFS when available and needed. I expect that soon I will be unable to use a condom at all, even if only 1 pop per week. BBBJ to completion seldom works for me. A HJ is just masturbation and of no interest to me.

After a BBFS session I always piss and thoroughly wash. After that I drink caffeine and that makes me piss even more. I still worry about STDs so I regularly get tested. About 10 days ago I got tested for 8 different potential problems, each was negative. I'll get tested multiple times during my next Thailand trip. I've also had a vasectomy, which I recommend for all those who do BBFS.

[Member #4753]

Virtually every expat and visiting punter I have met over the years is looking for BBFS+CIP and where to buy it from the moment they hit the airport arrival area.

There is no way. I would think less than 10% to 20% do what you do. That is bang every girl without a condom.

Most of us that live in BKK probably have done it occasionally or have a regular that we have known for a while and have stopped bagging up with her.

IMHO 80% or more of punters would avoid BBFS first up due to the risk of a bad health outcome.

[Wayne Roberts]

I have been coming to Thailand for over a decade and have met plenty of punters along the way. I have no doubt that there are a ton of guys looking for BBFS and I have partaken myself on the odd drunken night with a gogo girl or two, but to say that everyone is hunting for it all the time and that these girls need to offer it as a standard is madness. The vast majority are practicing safe sex, and it tends to be the older guys or the ladies who struggle for work that are offering it up when someone throws extra money their way. Generally you need to be a regular of the girls, and even then I have to question WTF is wrong with you that you would even want this in the first place.

Who wants to be the 4th or 5th guy that day to stick his dick in a bird working in a knock shop when other guys have been leaving loads in her? Good god man.

You have an odd view that is not shared by most people, especially ones who would prefer to remain healthy.

[EihTooms]

Of course there is risk, but it's about minimizing risk. BBBJ, DFK, DATY, and rimming carry far less risk then uncovered vaginal or anal sex. That's really impossible to debate. Using a condom for these acts not only minimizes your risk but also minimizes the girl's risk and the punter's that come after you. And no I don't think BBFS it's something that should be advertised or promoted. One thing I like about the online environment is that I have yet to come across a gal who would allow BBFS. I don't engage in the practice but I always like to inquire to see where the girl stands on it. CIM is definitely possible but then again that carries far less risk. And another aspect I like is that the local punters are a bit more concerned with their own health and the health of their fellow hobbyists. If a dude is trying to skin it with the gals he runs the risk of being blacklisted by the agents and sorry, I'm quite comfortable with that.

I'm perfectly comfortable with that too.

I thought this was about brainstorming what the new money behind a possible reopened Snow White can do to fire up more customer interest and justify reopening the business. It wasn't for me. I have plenty of money for what I need and have so much BBFS+CIP available to me my biggest challenge is scheduling it to maximize my pleasure. Which from what I read is the only challenge most Thai punters have regarding BBFS+CIP.

And for less money and with more attractive girls than the rates paid and the girls I have seen at those supposedly PSE shops.

Virtually every expat and visiting punter I have met over the years is looking for BBFS+CIP and where to buy it from the moment they hit the airport arrival area.

If the Snow White folks want to ignore that reality, can't compete, want to pretend that it isn't something most customers want and leave a ton of money on the table (as well as any and every girl in Snow White refusing to agree to it as his their right), that's their choice and also perfectly fine with me.

If all the so-called PSE shops in Thailand disappeared forever today and never reopened, it would not put a moment's glitch in the steady stream of BBFS+CIP every expat and visiting punter I know is getting from attractive 20's-30's year old girls they meet on TF or Tinder delivered to their door for less than 2,000 baht or perhaps for double that if seen in the flesh first in a gogo bar.

My point is it's going to take some pretty fancy new curtains and cushy new foam mattresses on the cots if Snow White, Tulip, Mango or whatever hope to compete and capture some of that BBFS+CIP trade money being spent everywhere else in town with young ladies who never even heard the term "PSE".

[Goatscrot]

However, it's only wrong if someone forces a girl to engage in any sex act against her will. Just because something is on a supposedly PSE Shop menu doesn't mean every girl must agree to it with every customer every time. It would be as true of BBFS+CIP as it is for Anal+, Rimming, CIM, COF, DFK, whatever.

If we're really concerned about everyone's health in this hobby, first thing we ought to accept if not demand being scratched off every PSE Shop menu and Escort profile is DFK. Then probably Anal+ after that, even with a condom.

From what I read here, punters are getting no hassle BBFS+CIP all throughout Bangkok and Thailand at rates anywhere from 75% to 100%. So it not appearing routinely on supposedly PSE Shop and Escort Service menus with it up to every girl to opt in or opt out on that offering seems like a rather silly business model oversight.

It's all up to the Snow White folks, of course. Maybe they can rile up more excited customer traffic and keen interest with a Buy 1 Get 1 Club Soda Night every now and then when they re-open.

Of course there is risk, but it's about minimizing risk. BBBJ, DFK, DATY, and rimming carry far less risk then uncovered vaginal or anal sex. That's really impossible to debate. Using a condom for these acts not only minimizes your risk but also minimizes the girl's risk and the punter's that come after you. And no I don't think BBFS it's something that should be advertised or promoted. One thing I like about the online environment is that I have yet to come across a gal who would allow BBFS. I don't engage in the practice but I always like to inquire to see where the girl stands on it. CIM is definitely possible but then again that carries far less risk. And another aspect I like is that the local punters are a bit more concerned with their own health and the health of their fellow hobbyists. If a dude is trying to skin it with the gals he runs the risk of being blacklisted by the agents and sorry, I'm quite comfortable with that.

[RacShack]

Definitely looking forward to it, will go as soon as it opens, as long as she keeps the same old PSE standards. For PSE, we're down to only Tulip right now, all other shops are hit and miss, and at over 2000-2500 baht for 1-2h, I don't like missing. Competition is sorely needed.

If went to Tulip on up coming trip, how would it go, what would. Should I expect to get during session, thanks a quick run down would be greatly appreciated, ie: such as CIM, anal, ass eaten and so on!

[Crocodilexp]

The owner of now shuttered Snowwhite is looking for a venue to reopen snowwhite.

She will be scouting for shops around BTS. She said the old location is difficult to get back due to high rent.

Tentatively by year end OR beginning of next year.

She is a bit apprehensive of getting back the business, What do you guys think?

Answer here, I will relay your thoughts to her.

Definitely looking forward to it, will go as soon as it opens, as long as she keeps the same old PSE standards. For PSE, we're down to only Tulip right now, all other shops are hit and miss, and at over 2000-2500 baht for 1-2h, I don't like missing. Competition is sorely needed.

[EihTooms]

But I fail to see 2 wrongs making a right.

However, it's only wrong if someone forces a girl to engage in any sex act against her will. Just because something is on a supposedly PSE Shop menu doesn't mean every girl must agree to it with every customer every time. It would be as true of BBFS+CIP as it is for Anal+, Rimming, CIM, COF, DFK, whatever.

If we're really concerned about everyone's health in this hobby, first thing we ought to accept if not demand being scratched off every PSE Shop menu and Escort profile is DFK. Then probably Anal+ after that, even with a condom.

From what I read here, punters are getting no hassle BBFS+CIP all throughout Bangkok and Thailand at rates anywhere from 75% to 100%. So it not appearing routinely on supposedly PSE Shop and Escort Service menus with it up to every girl to opt in or opt out on that offering seems like a rather silly business model oversight.

It's all up to the Snow White folks, of course. Maybe they can rile up more excited customer traffic and keen interest with a Buy 1 Get 1 Club Soda Night every now and then when they re-open.

[TConor]

I didn't realize women engaging in sex for money with strangers was all about good health habits.

Where does smoking openly sold weed and drinking openly sold booze in the midst of fellow high flying motorcycle, car, bus and truck drivers fall on the list of healthy habits to adopt?

But I fail to see 2 wrongs making a right.