Bangkok Massage Parlors - Except TULIP and ANNIES!

[Dinotrex]

I still have the receipt cause I charged it, September 6, 2007. Some place called embassy cocktail lounge, New Phetburt 39, Bangkok. I paid 3150 baht. Anyone know of this place? I tried google mapping this place but it looks like a hostel now. Not surprising since this was 8 years ago.

Where was your Soapy? Did the girl get undressed and into the tub with you? There are places that do not have sex but a bed is always an indicator that sex should be available. How much did you pay? The amount paid would clearly indicate if sex was included or not.

In some places in the past, sex was not included in the base price, so you would not get sex unless you asked for it and paid the girl an extra tip. She would say how much.

You can tell the papasan you got no sex. I don't see that it would help you much.

Yes there are plenty of dick scared girls around in Soapies. If you really are a Godzilla, you might be better off picking an older girl who has a baby already, and a Soapy with predominantly non-Thai customers. No guarantee, but they are less likely to be dick scared. Even could ask the Papasan which girls like big dicks. Annies maybe a good venue for you. The mamasan could ask the girls who like big dicks to stand up. I have never had a bad service at Annies yet at most other Soapies it is hit and miss. The disadvantage at Annies is not many pretty girls, and other ISGers really bash Annies, because they just love shit dumping exercises. Lets be clear though Annies is not my favourite place and have only been there a few times for very specific girls. For me the place matters little. It's merely about the target girls.

[Syzygies]

This isn't so much about sexual training, as it is about social understanding. The lady needs to understand that she is the sexy-hostess, and the guy is her cocky-guest. Which means that she needs to invite the guy to take her in this position or that position for a ride. And if she is okay with the guy taking her ass, then she should also invite him for some A+. She needs to do this to make him feel welcome with her. Or else he won't feel welcome and probably will never come back.

I might be a little shy. LOL I get A+ very rarely, since I could count on one hand the number of times a girl invited me to take her ass, despite many visits to Tulip, Mango, Snow White and Cherry.

I suspect that not many girls are really into it that much, especially if they see your size and know you like fucking for a long time before cumming. I once tried jamming three fingers into my own, just to see how difficult it was. I could not get it in past the knuckles, so I can easily understand that anal can be not at all pleasurable for most girls. Guys should all try getting a dildo up the ass so they know what it is really like before expecting too much from girls.

To get anal regularly, I would definitely need to request it, and even then I suspect quite a lot of refusals. I did suggest it once with a girl who did not want to fuck due to her period, and knowing she offered it sometimes.

[Syzygies]

I was in Bangkok back in 2007 and I didn't know ANYTHING about how soapies or oilies worked back then. But somehow I remember strolling into a Soapie, I don't remember the name of the place though. I remember getting in a tub and the girl basically soaped me down and washed me, then we headed over to a bed where I thought the sex would come. For some reason because of the language barrier, I couldn't understand but we ended up not having sex. Is this normally how Soapies work? Or did I just get really bad service? I don't mean to boast but could it have been she saw the size of my shlong and didn't want to do it?

If it was bad service, would there be any point in telling the mammasan / pappasan?

Where was your Soapy? Did the girl get undressed and into the tub with you? There are places that do not have sex but a bed is always an indicator that sex should be available. How much did you pay? The amount paid would clearly indicate if sex was included or not.

In some places in the past, sex was not included in the base price, so you would not get sex unless you asked for it and paid the girl an extra tip. She would say how much.

You can tell the papasan you got no sex. I don't see that it would help you much.

Yes there are plenty of dick scared girls around in Soapies. If you really are a Godzilla, you might be better off picking an older girl who has a baby already, and a Soapy with predominantly non-Thai customers. No guarantee, but they are less likely to be dick scared. Even could ask the Papasan which girls like big dicks. Annies maybe a good venue for you. The mamasan could ask the girls who like big dicks to stand up. I have never had a bad service at Annies yet at most other Soapies it is hit and miss. The disadvantage at Annies is not many pretty girls, and other ISGers really bash Annies, because they just love shit dumping exercises. Lets be clear though Annies is not my favourite place and have only been there a few times for very specific girls. For me the place matters little. It's merely about the target girls.

[Cunning Stunt]

Mud is an amazing performer, but she has a very bad case of "mommy body. " That is why I never took her a second time. One of my pet peeves is I really dislike "baby drag" on a gal. My take on Prae is that she goes through the motions pretty well, but with very little fire.

Cheers for that. I'm not really into crinkly tums either although if the service is exceptional, I could maybe put up with it. Amazing how they have hidden that on all her gallery pics. Who would you recommend for performance and looks (any oily but preferably one that offers outcalls)?

[Dinotrex]

I was in Bangkok back in 2007 and I didn't know ANYTHING about how soapies or oilies worked back then. But somehow I remember strolling into a Soapie, I don't remember the name of the place though. I remember getting in a tub and the girl basically soaped me down and washed me, then we headed over to a bed where I thought the sex would come. For some reason because of the language barrier, I couldn't understand but we ended up not having sex. Is this normally how Soapies work? Or did I just get really bad service? I don't mean to boast but could it have been she saw the size of my shlong and didn't want to do it?

If it was bad service, would there be any point in telling the mammasan / pappasan?

[Goatscrot]

Thinking of arranging an outcall from Mango. Prae and Mud stand out and both are A+ but as is the won't of these places, the photos appear to be heavily photoshopped. Do either of these girls remotely resemble their images and if so, which is the prettier (highly subjective I know) and more importantly, who gives the better service? If anyone has experience of either, or both (maybe at the same time), your help and advice would be welcomed.

Mud is an amazing performer, but she has a very bad case of "mommy body. " That is why I never took her a second time. One of my pet peeves is I really dislike "baby drag" on a gal. My take on Prae is that she goes through the motions pretty well, but with very little fire.

[Cunning Stunt]

Thinking of arranging an outcall from Mango. Prae and Mud stand out and both are A+ but as is the won't of these places, the photos appear to be heavily photoshopped. Do either of these girls remotely resemble their images and if so, which is the prettier (highly subjective I know) and more importantly, who gives the better service? If anyone has experience of either, or both (maybe at the same time), your help and advice would be welcomed.

[PogoStick]

Your best bet is to book a massage girl in advance from one of the oily or soapy shops. She will meet you at your hotel and do whatever you want. If all you want is a good massage and HJ then she will do that. If you change your mind and opt for full service after the massage she will do that. The only issue for you might be the rate. The shop will charge you the standard outcall rate whether full service or massage and HJ is offered.

Another option is there are a couple of shops open late on lower suk between Soi 3 and Soi 7 but there is a mix of ladies and ladyboys and for this reason I have always stayed away.

Finally you could go to Soi 11. There are many small massage shops open in the massage Arcade. They all offer whatever services you want. A mix of ladyboys and real ladies as well so I have never partaken during the night but did have a good experience there during the day.

Thanks,

I'll probably cruise the arcade. I just wasn't sure if they would be open that late as I am usually an early monger. I've never had a problem with the LBs there. My radar is pretty good and if I am in doubt, I just ask. So far every massage girl I've had in the arcade was born that way!

[Member #4591]

One quick question. I am coming in on a late flight and won't hit my hotel until at least 1 AM. I'll be staying on Soi 8. Will I be able to find a massage shop open anywhere in the area? I would prefer on Soi 8 but crossing over to Soi 11 is not a problem either. I'm am not looking for oily / sex shop massage but a decent rub with a possible happy ending but emphasizing the massage to work out the kinks of a long flight. Any chance I'll find something open?

Thanks,

Pogo.

Your best bet is to book a massage girl in advance from one of the oily or soapy shops. She will meet you at your hotel and do whatever you want. If all you want is a good massage and HJ then she will do that. If you change your mind and opt for full service after the massage she will do that. The only issue for you might be the rate. The shop will charge you the standard outcall rate whether full service or massage and HJ is offered.

Another option is there are a couple of shops open late on lower suk between Soi 3 and Soi 7 but there is a mix of ladies and ladyboys and for this reason I have always stayed away.

Finally you could go to Soi 11. There are many small massage shops open in the massage Arcade. They all offer whatever services you want. A mix of ladyboys and real ladies as well so I have never partaken during the night but did have a good experience there during the day.

[Syzygies]

Any more detailed review about the services and so called models? Do they allow multi pop session, do they allow A+? Are the rates all inclusive or you need to pay separately for extra services. Can they communicate in English?

Thanks,

I wrote reviews before. No idea what the dates were.

Most of your other questions are silly really, but we can forgive you if you haven't much Soapy experience. I speak Thai very well, so I have no idea if they speak English. Its not a requirement in very Thai oriented places. You don't go looking for A+ in Thai oriented Soapies, and multi pops is a bit strange also but girl dependent, and I am sure tip dependent. Soapies always have all in pricing these days. Many years ago, you could get a Booran (real Thai style) massage for one fee, and tip girl extra 1 K for sex, but those times are long ago, I think. Once worked that way at Chaopraya 2.

Based on your questions, you should stick to PSE Oily shops or Annies, Dr. BJ Nuru, in my opinion.

[PogoStick]

One quick question. I am coming in on a late flight and won't hit my hotel until at least 1 AM. I'll be staying on Soi 8. Will I be able to find a massage shop open anywhere in the area? I would prefer on Soi 8 but crossing over to Soi 11 is not a problem either. I'm am not looking for oily / sex shop massage but a decent rub with a possible happy ending but emphasizing the massage to work out the kinks of a long flight. Any chance I'll find something open?

Thanks,

Pogo.

[Dan7373]

.... For whatever reason, I too would find it crass and a bit embarrassing to ask for rimming and I never have asked for it. In fact, I used to be a bit embarrassed to ask whether a girl did anal, which some, almost certainly a minority until recently, of the PSE girls did not do. However, now that many of the PSE shops adopt the term A+ to describe this, and advertise it as such on their websites, I have little embarrassment asking which girls do A+. ....

I'd say that your kind of embarrassment and shyness with the ladies is lot more common than you think.

Because the lady is basically your hostess, and you are her guest. Being a guest means that you don't just barge in and start asking for things that you want. You wait to be invited to do this and that. Because this is the polite thing to do. Such politeness is so ingrained in people's minds, that they do this every time.

It's like when you are a guest in a stranger's home and you feel hungry, then you don't just go to the fridge and start eating whatever you want. You wait to be invited. And if your hostess doesn't invite you, then you just wait patiently and go away hungry. That's what most people would do.

And that's what happens with many massage ladies and their guys. The guy feels like a guest with the lady. She is his hostess in her home for the day, so to say. This guy doesn't feel free to ask her for anything, just like any polite guest. He needs her to invite him to do this and that with her. Or else he feels like he is barging in and being impolite.

Of course, there are exceptions to this rule. Because not every guy is polite. Some guys don't have any problem with being rude. And even if you are polite, then you might start feeling more at home with your massage lady in her massage place, after you come to see her several times.

And the lesson massage ladies need to learn from this is that when their guy is reserved and shy, then they need to invite him to do things with them. Or else this guy will go away unhappy, just like a hungry guest goes away, when he isn't invited to eat.

This isn't so much about sexual training, as it is about social understanding. The lady needs to understand that she is the sexy-hostess, and the guy is her cocky-guest. Which means that she needs to invite the guy to take her in this position or that position for a ride. And if she is okay with the guy taking her ass, then she should also invite him for some A+. She needs to do this to make him feel welcome with her. Or else he won't feel welcome and probably will never come back.

And of course making the guy feel welcome is more than just the lady being good in bed. How she parts her company with the guy is important too. If the lady kisses the guy on the cheek, after he puts away his dick, then chances are good that he will come to see her again. Because he will feel so welcome with her.

[Raju 1974]

Normally Tarragon is spelled with double letter-R I guess in English.

I did not recognise Taragon so looked it up. It appears (Google Maps) to be either a funny English approximation or a new name for Tharnthong (paired with soapy section at one point called "Selene" near MengJai intersection that I have visited before a small number of times. Its a very Thai oriented place. Has a Soapy oriented section and an Oily massage oriented section, a bit like Nataree has two sections. I thought I was the only Farang on ISG to ever go there. LOL.

In former times this place was called Maleena. Google Maps still shows the Tharnthong sign in Thai writing.

http://www.tharnthong.com/

Its possible the Tharnthong line up is above average, if attending at the right time, however I never managed to get a girl that was so good, I needed to keep returning for her.

Syzygies,

Seen the website seems quite interesting. Looks like very luxurious ambience, good service with quality stuff and that too quite cheap. Google map shows it is only 10 kms from Nana.

Any more detailed review about the services and so called models? Do they allow multi pop session, do they allow A+? Are the rates all inclusive or you need to pay separately for extra services. Can they communicate in English?

Thanks,

[Syzygies]

Some bootylicious ladies listed on site. How legit is this? Anyone has experience?

Thai Models probably lists girls that were really once at the place, although they rely of the establishment supplying the pics to be honest.

Pics are photo shopped. Many of the hottest girls are hard to find. May work very little or have left the place long ago. I have recognised some girls shown though.

I also had a great deal of problem finding any of them after making a short list of my favourite 20 girls pics from various sites and going to the establishments looking for them. Victoria was particularly disappointing in terms of line up well below standard of the pics.

I went to an Emanuelle Christmas party many years ago, so I know they once has a few good looking girls. However the line up has dwindled a lot, and 90% have bad nose jobs now, plus maybe tit jobs as well.

Many places have seriously declined compared to say 15 years ago. Actually the biggest decline in Soapies probably came when Thaksin came to power in 2001, as all the non-Thai and low age girls got cleared out. Most soapies went downhill steadily since then.

Utopia is an example of a once great club, that is in its dying stages. Emanuelle line up is vastly smaller too. Nataree is an exception still going strong. La Belle was envisaged to be a large successful club when it was built, but never reached its potential. I still miss its predecessor Mona Lisa, even though was a known rip off place (for newbies).

It would be nice if we had access to real pics of girls that really work there. Never going to happen.

The stunning Gaew still appears on the Pink Massage web site. No incentive to take her off even though she left there long ago. So yeh, the Oilies do it too. Lots of massively inflated line ups on web sites.

[Syzygies]

Some bootylicious ladies listed on site. How legit is this? Anyone has experience?

I have tried Victoria, Taragon, Copa Cabana and Emanuellle so far but did not find girls listed except in case of Taragon where all girls were pretty hot.

Normally Tarragon is spelled with double letter-R I guess in English.

I did not recognise Taragon so looked it up. It appears (Google Maps) to be either a funny English approximation or a new name for Tharnthong (paired with soapy section at one point called "Selene" near MengJai intersection that I have visited before a small number of times. Its a very Thai oriented place. Has a Soapy oriented section and an Oily massage oriented section, a bit like Nataree has two sections. I thought I was the only Farang on ISG to ever go there. LOL.

In former times this place was called Maleena. Google Maps still shows the Tharnthong sign in Thai writing.

http://www.tharnthong.com/

Its possible the Tharnthong line up is above average, if attending at the right time, however I never managed to get a girl that was so good, I needed to keep returning for her.