Khorat

[Samus Aran]

Dinghy:

Korat is full of babes. SA has always advocated Korat has a good alternative than lets say Pattaya. Slower pace, nice swimming pool. One question though, why would you want to rent a ho from Pattaya to go to Korat with you. Dont disappoint me. Do the travelling yourself and get a "take out" in each province. Skip this nonsense of hiring a ho to be your tour guide. Get the girls by the hour and get your relief that way. Bringing a girl to Korat is, like as Tapioca always said," Like taking sand to the beach." Have fun and get with it.

Your Friend,
Samus Aran

[Dinghy]

ah, yes the joys of Korat - got a room near the monument and went out for food at about 10 - one guy pimping a girl at the noodle stand for 200 or so, another group of YOUNG (and I mean 15yo MAYBE girls for the same price) everyewhere I turned more poon. Prices here are SIGNIFICANTLY lower than P'ya - I-net cost 15B/hour (of course a slow line) The one I brought up here from P'ya is from here and was an adequate tour guide if a PERFECT example of a starfish. she went home (p'ya) this AM complaining that the roughly 3000 I gave her total (prepaid her room rent in p'ya for 1500 and then gave her 1200 total more for the 3 days)wasn't enough rattling Thai that I didn;t understand but probably just complaints. will undoubtedly put in a bad word word about me at the bar in p'ya. oh well, live and learn

[Freeler]

Joe_zop,

Many congrats on your #1,000!
When and where's the party?
Only trouble is: If you keep on posting the magic number will disappear
Furthermore, I deleted only about 600 posts, so your math is a little off...

The guide was here, you could have come to Korat last winter, but you didn't.
Only T-W-O(!!!) posters here obviously read my initial posts on this town, visited and posted.



Skinless,

!

[Joe Zop]

In honor of you, Skinless, this is post #1000. Had you and Freeler not gone on a deleting binge (which Jackson has now made impossible, or I'd have cleaned up a few posts just to stay below the threshold for a while) you would both be nipping at my heels, with Freeler probably well past me.

As to your good wishes, thank you and who knows -- perhaps the lady who plucks me will be in Korat, which is definitely on my agenda for my next trip to LOS. After having far more sex partners than you've currently got posts, it's possibly high time that virginity disappeared...

And since Jackson opened up this section, how about you and Freeler (with Samus, if he'll do it) pulling together a very short and basic guide for newbies about Korat?

[Skinless]

Joe_Zop: This is just my short 200 th note to wish you a happy 1,000. You now have the same number of posts as I have had sex partners. A pity none of them were in Korat. Mya you live for many many posts yet, And may you eventually lose your virginity to a nice young lady.

[Skinless]

Here are some comments on the horrible Thai sex trade from Loney Planet's Thorn Tree, links given later. The other earleir pots are frm Stickman, who really knows the scene.

Posted by:
AJH
Wed 14 May 2003
0:58am

Last reply by:
Mike_N
Wed 14 May 2003
8:03am
Replies: 49 Views: 197 How about morals??Anyone out there have any? Pages: 1 2 Last
http://thorntree.lonelyplanet.com/ca...s.cfm?catid=51
Hey,
I've been reading over tons of messages on this board today, and I'm just wondering if there's anybody who ISN'T interested in the girls of Thailand or anywhere along thise lines. It seems like there isn't a soul that's posted thoughts that were derogatory towards the sex tourism of Thailand. I hear disusting amounts of stories about how the guys rent out the girls in Thailand. Does anyone not have an interest in this? Is it even normal to NOT do that kind of thing when you go there? As with the drugs and alcohol? Seriously, I'm not feeling the same as I was before about Thailand.
I feel like guys are pigs out there, but if I'm wrong, please let me know.
I know someone that's in a relationship right now, and he's in Thailand. Is it going to be hard for him to resist this sickening cycle, and be faithful to his significant other? Has anyone anything to say about this? I feel like I'm the only one who sees a problem with this...

A LP reply:
AJH
Posted: 14 May,
0:58am
How about morals??Anyone out there have any?

Hey,
I've been reading over tons of messages on this board today, and I'm just wondering if there's anybody who ISN'T interested in the girls of Thailand or anywhere along thise lines. It seems like there isn't a soul that's posted thoughts that were derogatory towards the sex tourism of Thailand. I hear disusting amounts of stories about how the guys rent out the girls in Thailand. Does anyone not have an interest in this? Is it even normal to NOT do that kind of thing when you go there? As with the drugs and alcohol? Seriously, I'm not feeling the same as I was before about Thailand.
I feel like guys are pigs out there, but if I'm wrong, please let me know.
I know someone that's in a relationship right now, and he's in Thailand. Is it going to be hard for him to resist this sickening cycle, and be faithful to his significant other? Has anyone anything to say about this? I feel like I'm the only one who sees a problem with this...

A reply here: http://thorntree.lonelyplanet.com/me...entid=0&from=1
Tretower
Posted: 14 May,
1:15am
1.

Gosh Amy! we are on a hobby horse!

But I am confused; on the one hand you say you read many posts on this board condeming the 'sex n sin' industry. On the other you say you see much of it!?

I would not take this board as representative!

ProfessorFart
Posted: 14 May,
1:59am
7.

Seems like the OP has a very limited knowledge of what Thailand has to offer. I for one get pissed off with the endless sniggers and innuendos when I tell people I'm off to Thailand. In my experience it's narrow minded people like the OP who help to perpetuate this image.

Not all men go to Thailand for hookers, although many do, and some go without the slightest attention of doing so but end up falling into it all!

Pasty, please.

Tretower
Posted: 14 May,
3:44am
14.

ellis, very bland simplification of the situation.

Thailands economy is more diverse these days with many women working in shops and offices.

Most of the girls you see in bars are 'bonded', effectively slaves, 'sold' by their families from poor rural areas.

Many never make it home, dying of AIDS.

To portray the sex industry as a simple choice between the poverty of the land and the wealth and bright lights of the city is silly.

These are not American college students trying to fund they're way through further education with a little harmless pole dancing or 'modeling'.
tezza
Posted: 14 May,
4:17am
19.

This is a site for all travellers. Sex tourists included.

Many sex tourists are unattractive or shy guys who have no chance with girls back home; or older guys who are like-wise losers with women. Who has the right to say they should not visit?

It's just a hunch, but I feel a lot of these diatribes are written by attractive women who have fabulous sex lives. Certainly less attractive girls may feel differently, judging by the number I see in Bali and Sumatra in the company of the local gigolos. And good for them too - why should unattractive women have a permanently tough sex life?





Having seen this industry from various angles (short of full on participation, ie getting a prostitute), I would make a few observations.

1. People do things on holiday they wouldn't normaly do at home.
2. Thai women may be attractive, inteligent, loyal etc etc; but most 'hostesses' have limited command of conversational English.
3. Most pissed up 'farang' can't tell the difference between a REAL woman and a 'lady man'.
4. 'Legitmate' Thai women do NOT {as a rule} approach [chat up] western men.
5. Patpong is such an institution it attracts couples.

There's a few points for discussion!

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[Skinless]

passing through korat, we passed by the statue of ya mo, located in the centre of the city, which reminded me of a story that my girlfriend's mother told me recently... there was this homeless man sleeping in the central park in korat city. he went over to the statue of ya mo and bent down, waiing deeply. he explained that he had no money for food, and no money for the journey back to his family in the countryside. he asked ya mo if he could provide him with 500 baht that he needed for food and the long ride home. all the while, a policeman was standing nearby, watching this homeless man. as he watched the homeless man, he heard the story and took great pity on him. the policeman delved into his wallet, pulled out 300 baht and handed it to the man. as the police officer walked away, the man waiied deeply to the statue of ya mo, thanking him for the 300 baht. he then said that next time you give me some money, give it directly to me because the policeman stole 200 baht of it before he handed it to me...
http://www.stickmanbangkok.com/weekly/weekly77.html

having visited korat before, i can honestly say that there is nothing much to see, in the city itself at least, so we didn't stay, instead passing through on our way to what we believed would be greener pastures.

heading east along highway 226, we were now in unfamiliar country, a part of the kingdom that neither of use had previously ventured into. the province immediately east of korat is buriram, and we decided to head for the city and find digs for the night. buriram is a funny sort of a place but frankly, there is little to see or do in the town itself. even for hardcore isaan fans, this place doesn't have much going for it. it does not have the zest of a student city like khon kaen, the beauty of a river side city like nongkhai or the size and variety of korat. buriram was one of those small thai cities with the obligatory rep001tering of temples, government offices and markets. there was little else to see in the town itself, or at least of there was, we missed it.

[Freeler]

Skinless,

!

[Skinless]

http://www.stickmanbangkok.com/Weekly/weekly87.html
Having recently become engaged to one of the lovely maidens of Korat, I have found myself spending some time in the city of Korat. Just 250 km northeast of Bangkok, Korat is, depending on which numbers you go by, either the second or third largest city in Thailand. It is commonly referred to as the gateway to Isaan, although many people in Korat will tell you that Korat is not Isaan!

I had visited Korat a couple of times previously and truth be told, I found it dull and boring. I found little to see and do, and I guess that as far as tourist destinations go, there really isn't much there. But, visiting the city with a local is a quite different experience, and when looking at it as a possible alternative to as a pace to settle, it has potential. In fact there is something about Korat that grabbed me on recent, albeit brief, visits.

So, just what is it that Korat has that has touched me? What can a provincial Thai capital have, that the great metropolis of Bangkok does not? From http://www.stickmanbangkok.com/Weekly/weekly87.html

The first thing you notice about Korat, like everywhere in Thailand, is that it is MUCH smaller than Bangkok. You can drive through the city in a relatively short amount of time and the traffic is nothing like Bangkok. It makes you realise that Bangkok really is a huge pain in the ass to get around.

Everything, and I mean everything, is cheaper in Korat. Food is much cheaper, getting around is much cheaper, and major purchases like houses are a lot cheaper too. But, this is all offset by the fact that getting work in a place like Korat is not easy, and jobs in provincial centres pay a lot lower than a comparable position in the capital. Furthermore, there are far fewer farangs living there than Bangkok, and with Bangkok being something of an intellectual graveyard at times, one might just about go stir crazy in a place like Korat if intellectual stimulation is even remotely important to you.

The Mall opened a huge great shopping centre in Korat a couple of years back, but it is one of these shopping centres that targets Thais, sort of like The Mall Bangkapi, Seacon Square etc, and most of what is in there will appeal to farangs about as much as a bowl of som tum boo will. An Emporium, Siam Discovery Centre or Mahboonkrong it isn't.

Could I live in Korat? Hmmm, tough question. Once one has settled down in life and assuming they no longer require the madness that Bangkok is famous for, a city like Korat might just satisfy. It is very typically Thai but when compared to the capital it has few of the creature comforts that make Bangkok such an easy place to live for a foreigner. Take away these creature comforts and life is not quite as easy.

To survive in a city like Bangkok, you would have to WANT to live the Thai lifestyle. The lifestyle lead by so many farangs in Bangkok is most certainly not typical of the way Thais live!

Somewhere like Korat would allow a Westerner to lead a typically Thai lifestyle with certain creature comforts at a very low cost. However, I have to wonder to myself just how many would want to live like this. If you speak Thai well, are content living on Thai food most of the time and genuinely enjoy the Thai way of life, then a place like Korat could be for you. If you require interaction with farangs and all of your farang comforts, then I doubt you'd survive in a place like Korat. Important note: I refer to the city of Korat here and NOT the countryside.

[The Traveler]

Skinless, Samus Aran :

This is your section. Provide some info for the rest of us where to go and what to avoid. Samus is always talking about his home base, but I have never really seen any valuable info from him.

Also let us know where we get the best acommodation. I personally prefer the Sima Thani (the one close to the bridge) over the cheaper places like e.g. K.S. Pavillion. But hey, that's me, others won't spend that much.

[JuiceSpike]

Skinless,

You finally got your own page. Fill it up. Is Korat the new frontier?

juice.

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