FKK World - Giessen

[Optimist]

Hi guys,

Looks like I raised some tricky questions re rates. Thanks for sharing anyway I'll be there next week. Will let you know if I was successful to pose as a local.

Let me know when and I would be happy to show you around if I can.

[Stiff6]

Hi guys,

Looks like I raised some tricky questions re rates. Thanks for sharing anyway I'll be there next week. Will let you know if I was successful to pose as a local.

[BigBuddy69]

The easiest solution is to boycott all those places.

[Gino02]

Optimist: I may be 100% wrong but my gut told me that those girls in my post below (I'll go look up the names) at that point in time were not going to go for a 50430 session with a local regular. Why would they do so and turn down my 100 E offer?

As you and I agreed in the past, these girls do not always make sense. I know this for fact. For example, I pissed off Gina one day and I wasn't going to have her for any amount of money. I come back 6 months later and try a different tact and I have a great 100 E /60 min session and the next week I had a follow up 30/50 session. But this was not the case. I felt like I hit it off with one of the girls and we were talking and joking and laughing about things. I bought the other a drink and they were standing around with us having fun but neither party would budge on price. So why not take my 100 E /30 with CIM andgive me a speech about self respect and then run off with a local regular for 50 E /30?

There could be many reasons.

The local regular comes in all the time so his 50430 is more consistent than my 100430 with CIM?

The local regular is grandfathered into the old rate?

Girls sometimes offer a 50430 rate for repeats? (This was my experience with Gina?

What I observed didn't make sense to me because she could of went to the room with me and then could have been with the next guy.

HS101,

I have noticed over the time that you are almost always a proponent of paying higher than the German FKK standard rates, so I (and probably many others too) stopped arguing about your views on paying higher. But in this message above, sounds like you finally understood why local regulars get standard rates, and you answered your own questions. I'm neither local nor regular, but I observe what local regulars do, learn from them and deploy the same tactics with the FKK girls; this keeps the FKK entropy in check and operational with win-win for both the sellers and buyers. Thank you for your understanding, and for the post above.

[HungryStud101]

Optimist: I may be 100% wrong but my gut told me that those girls in my post below (I'll go look up the names) at that point in time were not going to go for a 50430 session with a local regular. Why would they do so and turn down my 100 E offer?

As you and I agreed in the past, these girls do not always make sense. I know this for fact. For example, I pissed off Gina one day and I wasn't going to have her for any amount of money. I come back 6 months later and try a different tact and I have a great 100 E /60 min session and the next week I had a follow up 30/50 session. But this was not the case. I felt like I hit it off with one of the girls and we were talking and joking and laughing about things. I bought the other a drink and they were standing around with us having fun but neither party would budge on price. So why not take my 100 E /30 with CIM andgive me a speech about self respect and then run off with a local regular for 50 E /30?

There could be many reasons.

The local regular comes in all the time so his 50430 is more consistent than my 100430 with CIM?

The local regular is grandfathered into the old rate?

Girls sometimes offer a 50430 rate for repeats? (This was my experience with Gina?

What I observed didn't make sense to me because she could of went to the room with me and then could have been with the next guy.

[ThatGuy23]

I'm sorry Optimist but it's more like 50430 is the average looking woman's price or maybe the repeat customer price.

I remember a few of us were sitting around the bar and we were being lectured by three girls and they happened to be hot and very fuckable. I was saying 100430 but I can CIM (along with DFK) and they were saying that that service is 150 E /30. They were adamant and the reason they cited was laughably "self respect. " I have to look at my report to get the names of the girls and of the other ISG members that were with me and corroborated my story. I wanted to do one of these two or 3 girls but I was willing to pay either 100460 with DFK / LFK and BBBJ or 100430 with DFK / BBBJ / CIM and they would not have it. They were nice and we talked for a long time. Incidentally, I found plenty of girls that would provide all of this. Also, about a 1/3 were 50430 with BBBJ and DFK / LFK. However, there seems to be a movement afoot of this type of behavior. I remember clearly, the Sharks girl that was lecturing me about her self respect (I bought her a drink and we stood around by the bar talking for more than 30 minutes discussing it). Shortly after we finished our long conversation was over, the girl reappeared with a customer in hand and put an empty glass on the counter next to me (or something like this) and walked off to a room. She wanted to rub it in my face. Now tell me that she walked off with him for 50430 and I will tell you BS. However, we could of done or date and she could have fleeced this other guy and walked out with an extra 100 E but go figure. She would rather stand around talking about her self respect. I can remember one of the girls saying if you want 50430 go after one of the old ones or the not so pretty ones.

This must be very recent, then. I was at Sharks less than a year ago and never encountered 100430 asks. Every girl I saw was 50, never up sold for BBBJ (just asked my preference in the room). Unless I didn't go with the total supermodels, maybe? But I certainly thought the girls I spent time with were hot.

[Optimist]

Oops!. I wrote "regulars"in my post but realise that was the wrong word to use: I meant to write "local regulars". There is a world of difference and I should have been clear.

[HungryStud101]

Dead right. Sharks regulars refer to the 100430 as the tourist price. Same I guess at World. No need to pay more than 50430 in clubs (although it may take some patience and persistence)

I'm sorry Optimist but it's more like 50430 is the average looking woman's price or maybe the repeat customer price.

I remember a few of us were sitting around the bar and we were being lectured by three girls and they happened to be hot and very fuckable. I was saying 100430 but I can CIM (along with DFK) and they were saying that that service is 150 E /30. They were adamant and the reason they cited was laughably "self respect. " I have to look at my report to get the names of the girls and of the other ISG members that were with me and corroborated my story. I wanted to do one of these two or 3 girls but I was willing to pay either 100460 with DFK / LFK and BBBJ or 100430 with DFK / BBBJ / CIM and they would not have it. They were nice and we talked for a long time. Incidentally, I found plenty of girls that would provide all of this. Also, about a 1/3 were 50430 with BBBJ and DFK / LFK. However, there seems to be a movement afoot of this type of behavior. I remember clearly, the Sharks girl that was lecturing me about her self respect (I bought her a drink and we stood around by the bar talking for more than 30 minutes discussing it). Shortly after we finished our long conversation was over, the girl reappeared with a customer in hand and put an empty glass on the counter next to me (or something like this) and walked off to a room. She wanted to rub it in my face. Now tell me that she walked off with him for 50430 and I will tell you BS. However, we could of done or date and she could have fleeced this other guy and walked out with an extra 100 E but go figure. She would rather stand around talking about her self respect. I can remember one of the girls saying if you want 50430 go after one of the old ones or the not so pretty ones.

[Optimist]

The club price is 100 for 1 h, not 45 minutes. That's the tourist price.

Dead right. Sharks regulars refer to the 100430 as the tourist price. Same I guess at World. No need to pay more than 50430 in clubs (although it may take some patience and persistence)

[BigBuddy69]

The club price is 100 € for 1 h, not 45 minutes. That's the tourist price.

[Sirioja]

For the club, World is number 1 but Oase have great big jacuzzi, not too cold swimming pool and can play football in the garden. If You are clever enough to understand how work girls and have enough talent in bed with them, You can have at least 2 beauties for 40/45 mn for only 100 and they return to ask to repeat. Different if You are Asian of course.

[Optimist]

HS101. I really don't know about World. I had been hoping to get some info from colleagues here but there has been none forthcoming.

As for Oase, I also read the report about four $200 sessions. There were no details attached so I can't work out how relevant that guy's report is. That is why I keep asking guys to give some details rather than vague generalities. I do however have information via WA from a couple of guys who say they have no trouble getting 50 euro good service level at Oase. Last time I went I found that difficult to achieve, but the optics were better than World, even if the service was poorer. I hope that helps a tiny bit.

Personally Finca gives me the best compromise on service, optics, and pricing, if one is prepared to risk it (being a small LU club, around 25 to 30 girls)

[HungryStud101]

At one time, Oase was my Disney. This was Circa 2010-2012. I made a visit to World during this time and found it almost as good. I made a visit to Oase in 2017 and it was no where near the Disneyland I remembered. I swore I would never return. I will return to Germany in a few weeks and I will definitely hit Sharks.

Is World worth a visit at this point or should I break my vow and try Oase another time or should I avoid both and save my money for other venues?

I just read a report from a hobbyest that had three, 1-hour sessions at Oase and the each girl charged 200 E / hour. Good Lord! For that rate I can divert my flight to Canada.

Optimist. Is World still worth my hobby dollar?

[Optimist]

Hi guys,

Will be back in the FFM area after a long hiatus, stationed right between World and Oase. Which of the two currrently gives me the best chance for a nice GFE?

And: is the going rate really already 100,- for 30 min?

Thanks for any up to date intel!

Stiff6. I am pleased to see so many old handles reappearing in this Thread. You ask, in effect, the question which I have been asking of RomanEmperor and Hooknose, both of whom I hoped would provide us with firsthand reports

I am thinking that if you let me know your dates, I am likely to be at World before then and would be very happy to let you know my experience and meet up.

[Stiff6]

Hi guys,

Will be back in the FFM area after a long hiatus, stationed right between World and Oase. Which of the two currrently gives me the best chance for a nice GFE?

And: is the going rate really already 100,- for 30 min?

Thanks for any up to date intel!