FKK World - Giessen

[Euro100]

Langsuan Man: Great report! You are completely right, you really have to experience this place in order to comprehend what people are talking about. I have never been to the Playboy Mansion, but I can guarantee you that Hugh Hefner cannot possibly have it any better than what we get at FKKW.

You said "Euro Disney fuer alte Herren." I like that. Here is my attempt at a slogan: Fuckvergnugen. (If you know the VW ads in the US, you know what I am refering to.)

You mentioned a police patrol right as you were leaving Friday night. All fellow mongers can breath easy - I was there the next day, Saturday, and FKKW was open and running as ever.

You also said that the bar girls are not real friendly. True! However, if you put a little bit of effort into it, you can actually have quite nice conversations with them. The main thing would be to smile at them. Speaking German is of course a real big plus. I flirt a little bit with them accasionally, and they laugh with me and chat with me.

On Saturday at 8 pm I counted 41 providers. And Langsuan Man is right: not a single dog among them. I could have easily seen myself with at least half of them. (come to think of it: I HAVE been with at least half of them). Some of the best Atlantis providers are now FKKW regulars. It's like attending the FKK all star game.

My rental car company had been nice enough to put the newest edition of Playboy into my car. (Do these Germans know what we want, or what?) When I compare the playmates with the top acts at FKKW, I would say that at least 5, perhaps even 10, compare very favorably with the playmates.

Here is one more piece of information: the overnight room rate of 100 euros does NOT include the entrace fee. You have the room from 1 am to 11 am, and breakfast is included. But at 11 the next day starts, and youhave to pay again, if you want to spend that day at the club. So this is a bit expensive. However, if you had too much to drink, this can be an excellent investment.

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[Worf1972]

About any STDs risks go check out goaskalice.com pretty good information.

[Member #1980]

Let me ask a question about the strategy. I used to fuck 8-10 girls in one visit (the best use of 65e entry fee, isn't it?). I use Vigra or Cialis (similar result). The other tactic I used was holding the ejaculation till the last girl I plan to fuck that day (depend on selection in the club and energy I had I feel). That mean I ejaculate only once in fucking about 10 girls (my record is 11) in one visit. If I came earlier, it will take more time for me to get hard again. So use this stratigy, I can fuck more girls (10 girls in about 10-12 hours stay in one visit). Could you comment on if it is right thing to do (use Vigra, and holding back the ejaculation)?

Thanks!

#1980

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Member 1980

I'm no expert just an ordinary guy. Sorry - Thailiand and Brazil beyond my knowledge. As for oral on a girl, I did check this out once but have forgotten most details. Certainly there's the risk of herpes, and possibly others. I suggest you find a health info site and then you can make an informed decision

Catalyst - definitely no mandatory testing. If a girl wants to test herself then it is purely voluntary. Obviously a club will not want agirl who is known to be infected, but apart from thsi it's a question of buyer beware. Condoms are the only real defence - especially woth the increasing availablity (outside FKK) of condomless sex including anal and gangbangs

[Member #1980]

Shiatsu,

Three more questions:

1. I love to eat pussy. Do you think it is safe to taste pussy juice?

2. I think German FFKs are the best in the world, better than Therma in Brazil (girls are not nude in clubs) and Thailand. What do you think?

3. The best anal sex is in Brazil though. Most girls in Therma will do anal without additional charge.

Please comment.

#1980

[Catalyst]

Ortos,

I thought it would be a little unfair to report the rip off girl because I already reported her to management and caused problems for her, so I don’t want to continue beating up on her. Also, the next guy I saw her with said she was fine, so we may have had a problem only because of my unusual request and she is fine with everyone else, or she may have realized that she needs to be fair with her customers. I’m guessing that she wouldn’t be a waste of time or money for most other people. I hope I’m right. If I see any mention on this board of other people having further problems with her though I’ll jump in at that time (with a bit of a guilty conscience for not speaking up at this time).

Leona was really nice and is a top choice. I spoke to her about the internet and she said it was ok to tell people about her but seemed a little hesitant about having me say too much that people who don’t actually go to the club could use to identify her, so maybe I shouldn’t say more. She might be from Slovakia rather than Czech Republic.

There is a negative thing that I didn’t mention in my report. After I had a condom break with a girl I got a little nervous, went to the front desk, and asked how often the girls are tested and what for. The manager told me that I have to ask the girl, because the management of the club has nothing to do with testing the girls. This sounded strange and I wonder if she understood what I was asking, but I can’t imagine what else she might have understood. I thought all FKK clubs in Germany had mandatory testing.

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Ortos

You get the Sherlock Holmes prize!

member 1980.

Most girls seem happy to have sex for the best part of the 30 mins - if a girl only wants 10minutes sex then she's not acceptable in my book. We all need to discourage girls who try to give short time or try to make you come in 5 minutes. If a girl is obviously trying to get a quick completion, I usually take charge and set the pace just to outwit her - I make sure I use the full half hour.
However my preference is to include lots of fondling, cuddling and talking in a session - as well as being good in itself it usually leads to better sex . I think you only need worry if it looks as if you are just "using" the girl - as long as you focus on giving her a good time then you should be ok doing it in public. Most girls don't enjoy being fucked like animals (a phrase they've used to me about other clients)

[Langsuan Man]

21 May 04

WOW- just got in from FKK World where I celebrated the 16th anniversary of my fortieth birthday. Left Frankfurt at 3:30 but once I realized that traffic wasn’t that bad for a Friday afternoon stopped at a rest stop and poured over my printed copy of selected FKK World posts. Thank you Catalyst, Euro100, Ortos, shiatsu and Tarl. Because of your excellent reporting I was able to draw up a list of names and descriptions to be on the lookout for. (Not that it made any difference but at least I had a plan). Also bought a pen per Catalyst’s tip.

Now for my Forum duties: Getting there. I tried their web site directions, the MSN Map page, and one of the German mapping sites. The best and easiest directions were given by Ortos on 03-13-04. Since we don’t have a numbering system in this forum I will copy and paste his directions below: Can’t be plagiarism if I give him credit, right?

Take A5 towards Kassel and get off at Fernwald exit. (They're doing road construction now and the Fernwald exit is just near the end of the construction works.) Upon exiting the A5 autobahn, follow all the yellow/black town signs to Polheim, then at Polheim follow white/black signs to the Industrial Area of Garbenteich, a couple of kms outside Polheim. At Garbenteich, FFKW is pretty well sign-posted. Really it's not that tough to find.

FKK World signs lead you right to it once you get into the industrial area.

I diddled away my time so I pulled into the parking lot at 7:30 and after listening to the memorized spiel from the German girl at the desk was at my locker and doing my first Viagra of the night by 7:45. This means that I had an hour to allow for it to kick in so I was able to roam and see the place!

I will be perfectly honest with you it is sort of like the Grand Canyon in the U.S. You can hear about it, see it on TV and Movies, but till your standing on the edge looking down 6,000 feet to the bottom it doesn’t really sink in. So too with FFK World. Nothing you guys could have told me prepared me for walking into the “great room” from the showers and seeing all that glorious pussy staring me in the face. Let me tell you for a pussy hound that likes to go down on every one I can get my tongue into I was in heaven seeing all that clean shaven twat.

At 8 P.M. I remembered that I had a duty to do a count and since the room seemed pretty full at that time my survey put the total at around 30 girls give or take. Overall impression of the quality would have to range from 6 to 9. (Please take into account the newbie shock factor <G>). I have to admit I really didn’t see one dog and even if all were not my type I wouldn’t have kicked any of them out of bed.

After walking around and seeing everything I just sat at the bar where a fairly good looking German girl struck up a conversation with me in very good English. Pretty face, blond, blue eyed, pleasant body but not my type, plus we are waiting for the Viagra to kick in so I had time to kill and didn’t want to monopolize her and then leave. Was down on the lower level by that cigarette machine waiting to use the bathroom when Clara from Romania (Transylvania to be exact) walked up to me and gave me a kiss to die for. She didn’t know it but she had me right then and there with that hard body, tight tits, and her responsiveness, which was icing on the cake. Since I had no special requirements there was no need to negotiate anything. The only wrinkle was that we had to go back up to the money lockers to get my condoms. I know that the girls all have condoms but I have had to search high and low for a condom that is just the right size, shape, and thickness for my little buddy. And nothing can make me go down quicker that too tight of a raincoat. I wouldn’t need the Viagra if I didn’t have to use condoms. But I do, so I have to be particular with my protection. Next time I am going to get a pouch to wear around my neck to contain my necessities. I finally put one in the fold of my towel but I was always afraid of losing it.

Clara was just as passionate in the room as she was on the couch and we both really were turned on rather quickly. BBBJ, me eating her, couple of different positions and finally shooting a weeks worth of stored up cum in the missionary position while deep French kissing her. Not rushed and really a GF experience that you wouldn’t have gotten me to believe was possible during a ST. I am just back from 4 years living in Thailand and LT was the only way I went. Afterwards we talked for a while and she continued to kiss me until I gave her the 50 Euros and went and showered.

I then went back down to the Jacuzzi and Patricia, another Romanian came walking by and saw the shit eating grin on my face and joined me. I told her that I needed to recover since I had just been satiated by her fellow countrywoman. She said not to worry and as the water slowly relaxed me she stealthily moved in on me. Next thing I knew she was showing me her tonsils while so delicately massaging me that all thought of rest was lost. I have to admit these girls are pros and know just what buttons to push. Not pushy mind you but artful and sensual. They obviously know that the way to the room and 50 euros is through the kissing game. After the trip to the locker for the condom we retired to a free room and she was even better out of water. It was 10:30 by this time and it amazed me that these girls must have clocks in their heads since so far each session had been just at the 30 minute mark.

Time for another Viagra, Indian generic this time, so I just wandered around taking in the sites noting the comings and goings. (Walking the hallways you could hear the comings) The place sort of had a rhythm about it. Some times it appeared empty then five minutes would go by and it would fill up again. Sometimes there would be all guys and a few girls and at other times it would be all girls and just a few guys, and then it would get to be 50 / 50. By 11:30 I was ready for action again and decided to be a picker instead of a pickee. Went down to the couch at the bottom of the stairs and a few minutes go by and then Miracle, a Jamaican, walked by and I asked her if she would like to sit down. She had a gorgeous body and a personality to match. She began the exploration routine and started a BBBJ right on the couch while I explored here gorgeous tits and curves. This time I had the condom tucked into the waistband of my wrapped towel so I was ready for Freddie. She led me to a room behind the Masseur and I told her that it would be a miracle if she could get me to come again since she was my third of the night. She just smiled and in the cute Jamaican accent said “That’s why I am called Miracle”. A slow sensuous session followed and it was a real GF experience as well as great sex. I am lucky she was my last because if she had been my first I probably would have spent a whole hour with her,
We went up to the locker for her payment and I showed her my ID and she was surprised that it really was my birthday.

I stayed another hour while I finally had something to eat and a coffee for the ride home. Every time I would walk past her I would start to sing “Do you believe in miracles, you sexy thing” and she would laugh, grab me and give me another deep tonsil tickling kiss. I took my last shower and left at around half past midnight. As I was sitting in my car buckling up three or four police cars came up the driveway, lights but no sirens. I couldn’t see it they were there to conduct a raid or were escorting a VIP but I do know that the VIP parking gates were opened for them.

Getting out and back onto the Autobahn was a piece of cake since I just followed the Blue signs. I was back in my apartment in just over 35 minutes door to door. I might add that I live but a mere 7 minutes from The Palace but wanted to try the World first because I could!

Overall impression. OUTSTANDING. Finding the FKK scene will make my time here in Germany tolerable but I will just have to control myself since one night at FKK World cost me as much as two months of weekly LT’s in Bangkok. Definitely worth the money not to do the RL scene, which of course is readily available here in Frankfurt. But like boats, airplanes, and helicopters woman are cheaper to rent than own. So a monthly visit to a FKK club is not unreasonable for my sanity.

Administrative notes for any other newbie’s.

First of all the clothes lockers are the pits. There is one up and one down and at first you think that you have two and that one key will lock both doors. Well it won’t and the number on the key is only for that clothes locker. With the changing German weather it was down right cold so I had my leather jacket which, with my clothes, barely fit in the locker. The wallet lockers are another problem area since it is easy to have access to your locker blocked while someone gets their money out to pay their girl. So sometimes it can be awkward. Just look around and make sure you aren’t blocking someone else from getting to their locker and hopefully they will also be as considerate.

When you take your shower remember to adjust the temperature and then push in the knob. Stand away from the spray till you adjust it to you liking and don’t be surprised if it goes off just as you get comfortable. It is on a timer so all you have to do is push it in and since you have already set the temperature it will return to just the right temp.

My only gripe was about the scarcity of bathrooms but like one of the other posters mentioned there are several near the ATM machine in the front lobby. But you don’t have to go out there to access them. The door at the opposite end of the showers leads you there. One even has a sink so if you want to brush your teeth you can do so. Since I eat a lot of pussy I like to keep my mouth clean and fresh.

Don’t expect any friendliness from the staff since they are all bored and just doing their jobs and it would kill them to smile. The only staff member I found to be even a bit friendly was the little girl who cleans up and she smiled and offered to cut off my entrance plastic bracelet as I was leaving. Forget the servers at the bar since they will look right through you even though you are standing in front of them with an empty glass and a mournful look. But the friendliness of the girls is what is important and I’ll trade for that any day. The cleaning ladies are really industrious and I hope that management knows that they really hustle and are always busy cleaning out the rooms, getting fresh towels out, and generally keeping the place tidy. I just don’t understand why management doesn’t have hooks in the rooms to hang your towels up. I guess that they would rather have wet towels on the beds instead?

I was able to park in the 2nd parking lot since it was still daylight when I got there but don’t use that lot if you are not used to your car or not good at parallel parking. Not that you have to parallel park but you have to back into the spaces and with the fence on the left as you come up the drive it can be awkward. Plus you could get caught all the way up there and not find a spot and have to back all the way back out since there is no where to easily turn around.

Even though most of the girls smoke they are smart enough to chew gum so that the smoke smell is not that noticable. I quit four years ago so I am sensitive to it and at first was worried that it would spoil my time but it turned out to be an non issue.

All in all my experience a FKK World was a really positive one and a great birthday present to myself. I couldn’t help but think on the drive back home that FKK World is:

“Euro Disney fur alt herren”

[Member #1980]

With help of Viagra and Cialis, I usually have sex with each girl for about 30 minutes. I am afraid that if I do it in public place, then no girl want to do it with me any more because I know most of girls like man who come fast, about 10 minutes after entering. No girl want to fxxk 30 minutes. Am I right? If i do it in open area, every girl see, then they know I fxxk long. Please comment. Of course, have sex in public place with every body watching is a very exciting experience.

[Ortos]

Shiatsu/Carnal,

I think you will both find this an interesting comment: I have solved the mystery of the two Leonas.

I think I know exactly who Shiatsu is talking about in his post just below. He is talking about a short pretty blond girl (tatooless), who used to work Atlantis under the name of "Daria" as well as Leona. (If you check back in the Atlantis section for posts from last year you will find a post or two about her under the "Daria" name.) But she is from Slovakia, not the Czech Rep. Last year, when she used to work in Atlantis, I had several sessions with her. Great girl. She often told me that she was the only Slovakian girl there amidst great many Czechs. After Atlantis closed, she moved to World and when I saw her at World in April, she came right over to me to chat. She told me she didn't like World as much as ATlantis because there were not as many male guests at World. Most interestingly, in the same discussion she indicated that she strongly believed Atlantis would re-open "soon" and that she could not wait to go back there tto work.

Shiatsu's post just below confirms this, because he and I overlapped last month at World when they had the party he posted about. I was at the World for about 5 consecutive days during this period, and each day I saw and often spoke with this Slovakian Leona (or was it "Lenora?"). Anyway this is the girl you are talking about, Shaitsu, not the Leona that Carnal and I know from PHG, who, incidentally also used to work at Atlantis more than a year ago. But this Leona was certainly not at World during April. She was fully enscounced in her normal PHG venue where she has been going strong (with or without Sammi) for several months.

Another way to distunguish the two: The PHG Leona is a G-string wearer, which does expose those superlative butocks for all to see and revere. If, by any off chance she was to turn up at World, then I assure you most probably would have seen her prominent buttock tatoo and remembered it...

Ortos

[Carnal1]

I have a hard time believing that Leona goes from PHG to World and back. The Leona at PHG seems alittle shy to be wandering around World FKK by herself. If she arrived with Sammie for a night I could see that but by herself, I doubt it.

Personally, I think she would have too much competition at World from girls like Andrea. That would be a fun threesome with Andrea and Leona, chingao !

Now that we have some intrigue going on, its your guys job to weed this out and give us a report ASAP.

Lanrac aka Carnal1

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Ortos

Sorry - I wasn't very observant (it was the day Andrea had her accident and I was not doing my WSG duty!) so I can't say yes or no to the tatoo. I saw her on Sunday just under five weeks ago.
She said she had been working at Atlantis (although I hadn't seen her there). She is Czech and speaks good English, and is slim.
I'm going to World again in three weeks - if she's still there I'll check for you!
As you say it's unlikely to be the same girl - I wish we could take photos of the girls then these discussions would be so much easier.

General comments on hotels etc - there has been discussion recently about hotels/travel etc and how to keep costs down. If you stay in Giessen there are bus services regularly to Garbenteich Sportplatz which is under ten minutes walk from World and cost 1.6 euro instead of 17euro for a taxi. Over four or five days that pays for a half-hour session. On the way back the last bus is at 21.54 or 22.25 approx so I usually get a taxi back to Giessen. Details are on bahn.de, choose English and go to the detailed search choose place- Pohlheim, then street Gruninger Weg -middle

Sex in the main rooms - Catalyst gives some experience on this. If anybody is keen on this they might try Irina (slim, brown straight hair, Russian resident in germany) and Viagra/sara who has silicone tits and (possibly) lifted ass, big lips, very cheerful, black from Brazil. Both were at Atlantis and now at World - at Atlantis they did it in th epublic bed for no charge and without me even asking!

[Ortos]

Shiatsu,

Thanks for that note about Leona. Just to make 100% sure we are talking about the same girl: The Leona I mean is a very pretty, platinum blonde with a tatoo on her right buttock cheek. I first met her at Atlantis about 18 months ago, then I re-discovered her last year at PHG, where she continues to be a regular. She is rated a top act at that club. I find it astounding that she should suddenly turn up at World as well. I still think her main venue is PHG, where she can probably pull in as many clients as she wants. That is why I suspect we are talking about two different Leonas.

Shiatsu, when exactly did you last see "your" Leona at World?

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Catalyst

The memories of you were positive - it came up because I asked Andrea to go on the public bed and as I am English she started to think it was an English thing! She said German men in FKKs don't like to do it in public.

After your report I am even more keen on my return visit in mid-June! I'll try to complete my notes as I go along this time

Ortos - I saw Leona and she was definitely the Czech girl from Atlantis, not the Slovakian

[Member #1980]

Catalyst,

Excellent reports. I just curious, what is major difference to have sex in private room and in front of every one? How long in between to keep you have sex with 5 to 10 girls in one visit? How long each session last (30 minutes)? Each time you can come and your tool can get up session by session? Does Vigra or Calis help? Please advise. Thanks.

#1980