Living in Thailand

[Vedado Fun]

Happy New Year Everyone,

Home in the U.S. visiting my mother and family for the holidays. Right now it is New Year Eve, not much for parties so decided to stay home for the evening and write my first year experience in Thailand. Don't know exactly what I want to say and how to say it there is so much but I don't want to bore anyone with all the details. So as they say from the beginning!

As many of you know I decided to leave my job after my pension was given to the government PBGC, and my medical coverage would end as soon as I retired today or 10 years from today. The job being very physical I decided to leave while I still could walk and spend as much time as I could with my wife and son in Pattaya. For nearly 9 years I worked months without a day off, overtime, double shifts, paying off my debt, saving as much as I could so that I could visit Thailand twice a year for 1 month at a time.

Prior to my retirement when the dollar was strong I wired as much money as I could afford and placed it into the Bangkok Bank. Meantime my wife and son lived very modestly in the out skirt of Pattaya near the reservoir. We had a clean place to live with lots of modern conveniences. A sit down toilet, hot water heater for showers, and a big A/C when we needed it and a hand full of fans. We had plenty to eat and I was able to send my son to a private school.

After years of riding around on my motorbike throughout Pattaya looking for land to buy to build a house and looking at home projects I finally found the home the year prior to my retirement. It was really a matter of finding the best bang for the buck nothing too fancy. The house was purchased with 100% cash and so was the small Toyota a few months later. The motorbike was great transportation but having a car for the safety of my son and wife when it rain was the main reason.

Years of looking for a house I knew exactly what I wanted. The house cames bare so in 2 weeks I spent alot of time at the ATM taking out money for rain gutters, 2, 1250 stainless steel water tanks, grass and palm trees, outdoor furniture, and a house full of new furniture from Index and Num Chai. It was a long haul to my retirement but that day finally came December 5,2006 and I was on a flight First Class complimentary of friends and my old boss.

When I first arrived in Pattaya for the 1st time as a retiree. My biggest concern was whether I was going to be able to obtain a retirement visa not having a pension to live on. I moved some money around and was able to obtain documents from my 401K, stating a draw and income and had the U.S. Embassy notorize the form and the rest of the process went smoothly at the Pattaya immigration.

With the hard part done, major items like housing, transportation and visa was paid for the next thing was whether my plan of living on $1,000 U.S. was going to be enough each month. The answer of course is NO! with the dollar being so weak I'm currently over my budget. Some months are better than others. My stay in Pattaya now was no longer a vacation I had to learn to be a husband and a father. My day starts at 6AM, getting my son ready for school, making breakfast, driving him to school, cleaning and fixing the house. Time really fly's and it's the end of the day.

The next project was finding Medical insurance for myself and family. I was able to do so but I'm not sure what is covered and how much so I'm on a constant search for something better but meantime I have create a medical fund for me and my family for any outpatient needs. Once again it's back to the best bang for the buck!

It's hasn't been all work this year. I have been able to drive up North to see my wife family and see parts of Thailand other than Pattaya. I find time once a week to go for a local 2 hour massage for 200 baht, to work on my back. I'm still trying to find more time to swim, jog, and find someone or group to play pickup basketball. When I return in February I will be shipping my Mountain bike so if you see a guy at Nana Hotel lugging a big box that will be me.

Finally, living in Pattaya and being Asian has many benefits. There have been lots of talk about skanks being in Pattaya but I know those comments are mostly referrence to P4P. But I can tell you as I travel daily around town I run into so many great ladies young and old. Once they hear me speak and find out that I'm from the U.S. the conservation draw on and I have been given phone numbers and even took a chance one time when the wife was gone to have a short 2 day affair. There are so many women running around this town and you free and single guys are so lucky. I've had so many encounters that I can't act on. The restrain is killing me but I'm a believer that the grass is not greener on the otherside. I have a wonderful wife and great son who don't ask for much. I never in a million years thought I would find my soul mate on the otherside of the world.

So not being able to get into another relationship or enjoy the hunt of getting a non-pro in the sack I spend my quick get away time on Soi, 6 for the price 500 baht ST, 250 for the BF, allows me to get things out of my system within a hour and get home like nothing ever happen. As I stay longer in Pattaya and meet more locals I need to be more careful. You never know if your neighbor might be working in a bar!

I hope my second year of retirement goes as well as my first. Thanks for lending me your ear and Happy New Year to everyone once again!

LBM

Great report LBM. I wish you the best of luck and hope that everything works out for you and your family.

[PinkPearl]

Here in Bangkok though temptation for non P4P is just too great. Not a day passes and I talk to the most beautiful women, educated, excellent English (which helps), willing and of course very much all 'good girls'.

So BKK has two types of girls:

1. Good girls, that is sluts.

2. P4P

Personally I prefer ladies who speak no English at all. That removes their temptation to start a conversation, which would definitely ruin the sex, and only thing that matters. They still jabber on in Thai to themselves, no doubt at times cursing me, but since I have no clue what they are saying it is like water off a ducks back.

I get some smiles from the young ladies working the seven eleven stores near NEP. I'm sure they'd love to accept an offer to polish my nob for an hour for 1000 Baht. Do you guys get this from any "ordinary" girls, I. E. The unofficial *****s? And if so, do they have a clue what they're doing or where to find it? LOL. I think that I'll stick with the experienced pros.

[Jungle Bluebird]

NicFrenchy, looking forward to your posts. In particular the 'Swensen's Ice cream boutique supervisor' :-)

JB

Absolutely! I do have the same problem (if you can call that a problem LOL).

I got more than a few more reports on Good girls coming, from my hairdresser to the Swensen's Ice cream boutique supervisor, emporium sales girl, bts girl and more. Also my latest: Chiang Mai's Camfrog little spinner (5 days with her and I have to say she will kill me soon, she is a sex addict and won't stop, even I tell her my pecker hurts!)

[Jungle Bluebird]

Excellent idea. We should call the 'Thailand good girl' thread :-) Experiences strictly other than P4P.

JB

Why not start your own blog, like Stickman (someone i don't read) or even Coma Boy

[LittleBigMan]

Gangles,

It is hard to answer all your question without knowing exactly what you are looking for since everyone is different. Need to know what country your from since the exchange rate is different for each. U.S. right now is bad it might be 30 to 1 at this time which makes it 1 USD = 30 baht. If you are holding Euro you are in good shape might be 59 Euro to 1 + 59 baht.

Is your lady a Thai or a Farang? Do you like to stay in a Hotel or can you stay in a basic room with A/C, do you like to eat American and European food? Does your work or retirement plan offer you Medical coverage for you and your mate? Can you and your mate ride a motorbike or you prefer a car only? Be more specific and I can give you a more specific answer.

Let me know, LBM

[Opebo]

Could you estimate how much it would cost for a single man with one partner to live in Pattaya. Could you tell me in baht, so that I can convert?

When I lived in Pattaya my expenses were thus:

Room - 5,000 baht
Util - 1,000
food - 6,000
bike - 2,000
misc - 6,000
girls - 40,000

So without girls its 20,000/month, with girls say 60,000 baht/month.

[DirkDingy]

Happy New Year Everyone,

Home in the U.S. visiting my mother and family for the holidays. Right now it is New Year Eve, not much for parties so decided to stay home for the evening and write my first year experience in Thailand. Don't know exactly what I want to say and how to say it there is so much but I don't want to bore anyone with all the details. So as they say from the beginning!

As many of you know I decided to leave my job after my pension was given to the government PBGC, and my medical coverage would end as soon as I retired today or 10 years from today. The job being very physical I decided to leave while I still could walk and spend as much time as I could with my wife and son in Pattaya. For nearly 9 years I worked months without a day off, overtime, double shifts, paying off my debt, saving as much as I could so that I could visit Thailand twice a year for 1 month at a time.

Prior to my retirement when the dollar was strong I wired as much money as I could afford and placed it into the Bangkok Bank. Meantime my wife and son lived very modestly in the out skirt of Pattaya near the reservoir. We had a clean place to live with lots of modern conveniences. A sit down toilet, hot water heater for showers, and a big A/C when we needed it and a hand full of fans. We had plenty to eat and I was able to send my son to a private school.

After years of riding around on my motorbike throughout Pattaya looking for land to buy to build a house and looking at home projects I finally found the home the year prior to my retirement. It was really a matter of finding the best bang for the buck nothing too fancy. The house was purchased with 100% cash and so was the small Toyota a few months later. The motorbike was great transportation but having a car for the safety of my son and wife when it rain was the main reason.

Years of looking for a house I knew exactly what I wanted. The house cames bare so in 2 weeks I spent alot of time at the ATM taking out money for rain gutters, 2, 1250 stainless steel water tanks, grass and palm trees, outdoor furniture, and a house full of new furniture from Index and Num Chai. It was a long haul to my retirement but that day finally came December 5,2006 and I was on a flight First Class complimentary of friends and my old boss.

When I first arrived in Pattaya for the 1st time as a retiree. My biggest concern was whether I was going to be able to obtain a retirement visa not having a pension to live on. I moved some money around and was able to obtain documents from my 401K, stating a draw and income and had the U.S. Embassy notorize the form and the rest of the process went smoothly at the Pattaya immigration.

With the hard part done, major items like housing, transportation and visa was paid for the next thing was whether my plan of living on $1,000 U.S. was going to be enough each month. The answer of course is NO! with the dollar being so weak I'm currently over my budget. Some months are better than others. My stay in Pattaya now was no longer a vacation I had to learn to be a husband and a father. My day starts at 6AM, getting my son ready for school, making breakfast, driving him to school, cleaning and fixing the house. Time really fly's and it's the end of the day.

The next project was finding Medical insurance for myself and family. I was able to do so but I'm not sure what is covered and how much so I'm on a constant search for something better but meantime I have create a medical fund for me and my family for any outpatient needs. Once again it's back to the best bang for the buck!

It's hasn't been all work this year. I have been able to drive up North to see my wife family and see parts of Thailand other than Pattaya. I find time once a week to go for a local 2 hour massage for 200 baht, to work on my back. I'm still trying to find more time to swim, jog, and find someone or group to play pickup basketball. When I return in February I will be shipping my Mountain bike so if you see a guy at Nana Hotel lugging a big box that will be me.

Finally, living in Pattaya and being Asian has many benefits. There have been lots of talk about skanks being in Pattaya but I know those comments are mostly referrence to P4P. But I can tell you as I travel daily around town I run into so many great ladies young and old. Once they hear me speak and find out that I'm from the U.S. the conservation draw on and I have been given phone numbers and even took a chance one time when the wife was gone to have a short 2 day affair. There are so many women running around this town and you free and single guys are so lucky. I've had so many encounters that I can't act on. The restrain is killing me but I'm a believer that the grass is not greener on the otherside. I have a wonderful wife and great son who don't ask for much. I never in a million years thought I would find my soul mate on the otherside of the world.

So not being able to get into another relationship or enjoy the hunt of getting a non-pro in the sack I spend my quick get away time on Soi, 6 for the price 500 baht ST, 250 for the BF, allows me to get things out of my system within a hour and get home like nothing ever happen. As I stay longer in Pattaya and meet more locals I need to be more careful. You never know if your neighbor might be working in a bar!

I hope my second year of retirement goes as well as my first. Thanks for lending me your ear and Happy New Year to everyone once again!

LBM

Congrats Mate

[DirkDingy]

Happy New Year

Can anyone tell me how much a very nice house (pool, jacuzzi ,etc) would cost to rent in Bangkok? I assume that some delux condos would also suffice, but I am leaning more towards a house. I know that the location will largely determine the price. I don't want to live to far out in the sticks. Thanks in advance.

[Traveler1234]

Traveler1234

If we had our own thread, it would die on the vine in pretty short order. I wouldn't have the time to contribute enough to keep it alive. I'm sure that the same could be said for others like JB and NicFrenchy.

Why not start your own blog, like Stickman (someone i don't read) or even Coma Boy

[NicFrenchy]

Here in Bangkok though temptation for non P4P is just too great. Not a day passes and I talk to the most beautiful women, educated, excellent English (which helps), willing and of course very much all 'good girls'.

Absolutely! I do have the same problem (if you can call that a problem LOL).

I got more than a few more reports on Good girls coming, from my hairdresser to the Swensen's Ice cream boutique supervisor, emporium sales girl, bts girl and more. Also my latest: Chiang Mai's Camfrog little spinner (5 days with her and I have to say she will kill me soon, she is a sex addict and won't stop, even I tell her my pecker hurts!)

[Gangles]

Hello Little Big Man, thanks for the excellent summary of your first year.

I am also thinking of relocating to Thailand. So I am very interested in the cost of living.

Could you estimate how much it would cost for a single man with one partner to live in Pattaya. Could you tell me in baht, so that I can convert?

Thanks again foe sharing your experience.

best wishes,

Gangles

[Old Thai Hand]

OTH

Seems that there is little appetite for non P4P action on this board. You, NICFrenchy and myself tried to create some interest.

I think that's only the case because most simply don't know how to or can't get access to non-P4P. That doesn't mean, though that's there's no interest or desire. I think given a choice, most guys would rather shag some of those lovelies one sees in the malls, on the BTS, or walking around Siam Square. I've seen plenty of Farang at MBK, for example ogle gaggles of students from nearby Chulalongkorn University. If they had a shot, I'm sure they'd go for them any day over some tart from Nana. On occasion, I've seen admittedly younger Farang guys trying to chat these girls up. I'm sure some succeed.

That you, NicFrenchy and I, among some others do describe the alternative provides some fresh perspectives that have value here. The only thing I can think that would prompt some to say that what we write about is irrelevant is a profound sense of envy.


Traveler1234

If we had our own thread, it would die on the vine in pretty short order. I wouldn't have the time to contribute enough to keep it alive. I'm sure that the same could be said for others like JB and NicFrenchy.

[Traveler1234]

OTH
Seems that there is little appetite for non P4P action on this board. You, NICFrenchy and myself tried to create some interest.
JB

PM Jackson for a special thread - call it 'freebies' or preferably OTH thread...i think jackson will be accomodating. Happy 2008!

[Jungle Bluebird]

OTH

Seems that there is little appetite for non P4P action on this board. You, NICFrenchy and myself tried to create some interest. But then I also side with LBM's comment '...allows me to get things out of my system within a hour and get home like nothing ever happen...'. Sure, ready access to P4P in this country has it advantages.

Here in Bangkok though temptation for non P4P is just too great. Not a day passes and I talk to the most beautiful women, educated, excellent English (which helps), willing and of course very much all 'good girls'.

The abundance of beautiful women in this city makes my day.. every day. In fact it's the only bright spot in this otherwise dump of a city :-)

All the best for 2008 everyone!

JB

But, there are several people on here who do talk about and are interested in non-P4P.

[LittleBigMan]

Happy New Year Everyone,

Home in the U.S. visiting my mother and family for the holidays. Right now it is New Year Eve, not much for parties so decided to stay home for the evening and write my first year experience in Thailand. Don't know exactly what I want to say and how to say it there is so much but I don't want to bore anyone with all the details. So as they say from the beginning!

As many of you know I decided to leave my job after my pension was given to the government PBGC, and my medical coverage would end as soon as I retired today or 10 years from today. The job being very physical I decided to leave while I still could walk and spend as much time as I could with my wife and son in Pattaya. For nearly 9 years I worked months without a day off, overtime, double shifts, paying off my debt, saving as much as I could so that I could visit Thailand twice a year for 1 month at a time.

Prior to my retirement when the dollar was strong I wired as much money as I could afford and placed it into the Bangkok Bank. Meantime my wife and son lived very modestly in the out skirt of Pattaya near the reservoir. We had a clean place to live with lots of modern conveniences. A sit down toilet, hot water heater for showers, and a big A/C when we needed it and a hand full of fans. We had plenty to eat and I was able to send my son to a private school.

After years of riding around on my motorbike throughout Pattaya looking for land to buy to build a house and looking at home projects I finally found the home the year prior to my retirement. It was really a matter of finding the best bang for the buck nothing too fancy. The house was purchased with 100% cash and so was the small Toyota a few months later. The motorbike was great transportation but having a car for the safety of my son and wife when it rain was the main reason.

Years of looking for a house I knew exactly what I wanted. The house cames bare so in 2 weeks I spent alot of time at the ATM taking out money for rain gutters, 2, 1250 stainless steel water tanks, grass and palm trees, outdoor furniture, and a house full of new furniture from Index and Num Chai. It was a long haul to my retirement but that day finally came December 5,2006 and I was on a flight First Class complimentary of friends and my old boss.

When I first arrived in Pattaya for the 1st time as a retiree. My biggest concern was whether I was going to be able to obtain a retirement visa not having a pension to live on. I moved some money around and was able to obtain documents from my 401K, stating a draw and income and had the U.S. Embassy notorize the form and the rest of the process went smoothly at the Pattaya immigration.

With the hard part done, major items like housing, transportation and visa was paid for the next thing was whether my plan of living on $1,000 U.S. was going to be enough each month. The answer of course is NO! with the dollar being so weak I'm currently over my budget. Some months are better than others. My stay in Pattaya now was no longer a vacation I had to learn to be a husband and a father. My day starts at 6AM, getting my son ready for school, making breakfast, driving him to school, cleaning and fixing the house. Time really fly's and it's the end of the day.

The next project was finding Medical insurance for myself and family. I was able to do so but I'm not sure what is covered and how much so I'm on a constant search for something better but meantime I have create a medical fund for me and my family for any outpatient needs. Once again it's back to the best bang for the buck!

It's hasn't been all work this year. I have been able to drive up North to see my wife family and see parts of Thailand other than Pattaya. I find time once a week to go for a local 2 hour massage for 200 baht, to work on my back. I'm still trying to find more time to swim, jog, and find someone or group to play pickup basketball. When I return in February I will be shipping my Mountain bike so if you see a guy at Nana Hotel lugging a big box that will be me.

Finally, living in Pattaya and being Asian has many benefits. There have been lots of talk about skanks being in Pattaya but I know those comments are mostly referrence to P4P. But I can tell you as I travel daily around town I run into so many great ladies young and old. Once they hear me speak and find out that I'm from the U.S. the conservation draw on and I have been given phone numbers and even took a chance one time when the wife was gone to have a short 2 day affair. There are so many women running around this town and you free and single guys are so lucky. I've had so many encounters that I can't act on. The restrain is killing me but I'm a believer that the grass is not greener on the otherside. I have a wonderful wife and great son who don't ask for much. I never in a million years thought I would find my soul mate on the otherside of the world.

So not being able to get into another relationship or enjoy the hunt of getting a non-pro in the sack I spend my quick get away time on Soi, 6 for the price 500 baht ST, 250 for the BF, allows me to get things out of my system within a hour and get home like nothing ever happen. As I stay longer in Pattaya and meet more locals I need to be more careful. You never know if your neighbor might be working in a bar!

I hope my second year of retirement goes as well as my first. Thanks for lending me your ear and Happy New Year to everyone once again!

LBM