Living in Thailand

[Dick Johnson]

Remember awhile back when Posterlion said Dick Johnson is keeping a secret that is tearing him up inside? I have no problem keeping secrets esp other people's secret. Posterlion just announced his big secret which he told me not to tell anyone lol!
Just be careful, P. JC said it, the one you gave no money to are the most dangerous.

SA ought to be reinstated as regular member since he is one of the most useful members on the Thailand board now, if Jackson is listening.

-DJ

[PosterLion]

Jaimito Cartero,

That's two good points. I can't explain the first one. That kind of stuff is somewhere in the stars. I dunno. She writes and speaks the same "look at the sky and flick the cigarette ash with the eye of sorrow" stuff that i do. But the second point... Yeah, that's scary. And maybe dangerous too. If I survive I'll let you know. I figure I will survive so there will be some kind of trip report about this on here. The ones that ask for money are a known quantity. It's like there is a primordial understanding. The ones that don't ask are the ones where anything might happen. Ah, s h i t! I think these two points are really one and the same. lol.

[Jaimito Cartero]

If you didn't have that good of a time with her the first time, why spend so much money communicating with her? I know that a perfect woman is a very different thing for every guy out there. Perhaps she was like a fungus, and was slow growing on you.

I think that the ones that you give NO money to are the most dangerous.

I wish you luck, and let us know how it works out.

[PosterLion]

Hello all fellow mongers and TG aficionados. Has anyone ever gone to Bangkok to stay with one girl at her place before? I never have but that is exactly what I am about to do on July 21st, this 2000 and three.

I was in Thailand back in April (my 3rd trip... newbie here) and I had some amazing experiences as probably anyone did that went there or lived there at that time. One of the girls I met is still in my mind. What can I say? I have become attached to her. I met her on ICQ before my trip. I already had my tickets and was looking forward to a week of bliss in the mongering scene. I ended up meeting her at Siam Center at Starbucks one night. We had dinner, went to the Hard Rock afterwards to buy my sister a T-shirt, and then took a cab to Khaosan Rd.

After two hours of drinking she asked me if I would take her to my hotel where we could talk in quiet. I agreed. We had sex that night and spent the next three days together. I can’t say I really liked her that much after the three days but later, I started to like her a lot. She’s never asked me for money and I’ve never given her any. But I have to say I’ve been spending about $150 to $200 a month talking to her on the phone. She has near perfect English. She understands all those crazy poems I was posting on here after my last trip. I quit posting them on here but I still send them to her and the 196 girls in my email list. It’s my hobby or MO, so to speak.

Hmmm. She has quite an Internet following as well, many fans. She was telling me how some fan sent her a bunch of books by a famous female British author the other day. I’m pretty sure she may have slipped the snake for money before but she’s never asked me for a monetary contribution. Though sometimes when I call her, she can’t talk, you know, won’t tell me anything like I love you or I miss you. The last time this happened I just said, “Hey, is this a bad time?” She told me yes and I said no problem, just call me on a good time. She called the next day and told me I was cool for having the attitude I had when she couldn’t talk. I said no problem.

She says, “call anytime you want,” and most of the time it’s cool but... Maybe four times in three months she has had that; “I can’t say anything,” attitude. To me that means there is a boyfriend or a client. I can’t really complain. It’s not like I haven’t been to Mexico or an AMP or a strip club since I left her in Thailand.

It looks like my next residence will be somewhere near Soi 70 and Sukhumvit. Maybe I should post this in the Bangkok Hotel section. Hell, I can’t figure out where to post this thing! 1) Post it in the Bangkok section. It’s where I’m going to be. 2) Post it in the Living in Thailand section. I know I’ll be staying in a Bangkok apartment with fans only. The Internet is 20 Baht per hour in this neighborhood, etc. I hope I can cope with no Aircon. 3) Post it in the Thai Women - Opinion & Advice section. What the hell am I getting myself into?

Personally I think this belongs in number 2 and number 3 the most, because i will be living in Thailand with a Thai girl, if only for a week. On the other hand I think it belongs in the Bangkok section. Anyone that spends too much time here will end up like me.

But I won’t know till I get there and I’m going! What else is there to say? Amazing Thailand? Land of Smiles? Tropical Fever? White boy in trouble? Who knows! It sounds like a reality TV show. Can he go to Thailand and only poke one hole? Will he poke at all? Or will he get poked? Tune in at channel five on prime time Wednesday to find out...

[PosterLion]

Samus Aran,

I read about the Blue Cross and Blue Shield policy you mentioned. How much does that cost? I’d appreciate that information. I am not making any rash move to LOS (or Eastern Europe for that matter) but I am trying to plan out a strategy to live abroad. Insurance is one thing I have no data on.

OldAsiaHand,

How much money is enough to do it right in Thailand? I’ve read a lot on the matter and I think it depends on the person. There is a website I found that compared three lifestyles. Well, the comparison was how much each person spent a month in Bangkok, not how much they make. The first needs about 26K Baht, the second 34K, and the third 47K. Are these reasonable numbers? Which one is the closest you think to being able to do it right? For me I pick the 47K but that is probably out of a desire for security. What would you say? Higher? Lower? How much is enough to do it right? Thanks in advance.

By the way, anyone else feel free to comment on this. I know that a lot of you guys have a lot of really good information in your heads. Thanks in advance to all posters.

Okay, I am going to write one more post tonight. I’m not sure what Thai board it applies to. It could be fit in the Bangkok board, this board, or the Thai women and advice board.

Cheers

[OldAsiaHand]

Wandered onto this thread and thought I would put in my two cents.....

Lived in LOS for 10 years plus until 1995 when I moved up to China. Some guys like myself are addicted to mongering. If this is the case, you will never get bored with the action in Thailand. Yes, you may cut down the frequency a bit after awhile, but I did not stop for the 10 years, and still go back for more as often as possible.

On the other hand, if you want to live there permanently, there are other cultural & language adjustments that must be made. The girls cannot keep you occupied all the time. It is nothing at all like living in the USA. Yes, the outskirts' communities are nice, but traffic is still a problem in Bangkok, especially during certain times of day.

I agree with SA on one very important point. If you don't have a job or money enough to do it right, don't do it at all.

Just my POV.....

OAH

[Philo]

Thanks for your info SA...

But please understand that not everybody is dreaming about a happy (sic) american middle class Disney-inspired life....

I'll rather live in one of the unfinished highrisers in BKK.

In pacem....

[Najene]

I'll be moving to LOS in about a year and a half but I'll be married and living on about $650 a month Social Security. I know I'll miss some amenities but on my pension I'd be alone in a [CodeWord140]-in-the-sink hotel here, eating at the free meals. I'd miss all the amenities right in the middle of them. I'm interested in the ESL Teaching possibilities. I know that I can get the certificate with some minimal online training for about $300 now, while I have the money coming in. Is this a workable idea. What about jobs, work permits, etc. I know they only pay about ß300 an hour but that would be great above my pension.

[Joe Zop]

wlc142 -- why not post the questions here so some of the rest of the folks on the board can benefit?

SA, I heartily agree. There are plenty of good reasons to decide to move to Thailand -- work, climate and geography, economics, culture, etc., and certainly the sex scene is a nice bonus -- but if the only motivation is cheap sex workers you gotta check your connection to good sense.

[Cooter Hunter]

SA,


You certainly have a lot of info on living in Thailand, I've lived and worked in Japan for 4 years, I have been back in the states for 2 years now, and I have to been wanting to move back abroad, I have been to Thailand on several occasions, and I am considering making it my home, I would reall appreciate if you could backchannel me at daedalus_27@yahoo.com I have many questions about living, working etc... Again, any assistance would be greatly apprieciated.


TIA

[Freeler]

Samus,

Perhaps you can start a business picking up newbies from the airport (until it moves, that is) and make a pre-selection:
Dorks to Pattaya, half-wits go to Sukhumvit and people who at least appear to have travel insurance and a map, straight to Korat or Pilok!

When can you start?

PS Welcome to BKK!

[Philo]

Thanks Meaty

I will email you later (only have a full name adress now...)

Went to look at two appt's yesterday: one in soi 12 (2 bedrooms, B 14000) and a studio in soi 71 (condo with bargirls, thai families and a few farangs, B3300 (with aircon !, bargirl from Morning Night bar took me there)).

I think it will be best for me to start with a hotel. By now I have found good rooms at B10000 mnth in CM and B12000 in Patong, but I haven't found anything in BKK yet.

Anyway-thanks. Will send email later.

[Freeler]

Meaty, Joe_zop,

Don't worry, I will not attempt to make a mark in this thread.
LT in the same place is not for me. I travel!
BUT: The point Meaty makes on HealthInsurance is a bit too important to just let pass. I've seen a few too many expats end their lives in miserable fashion because they didn't have HealthInsurance.

[Joe Zop]

ah, meaty, i defer -- i'm not living in los as you are, and as philo is looking to be. there are things i know about, and i researched a bunch about things related to this when i was planning my longish trip, but living long-term in thailand isn't something i'm at all expert on, and i look forward to learning a great deal from this thread. i hope folks like samus will pipe in on some of the specifics here as well, as this thread can be valuable even for those of us who look to come over for less than forever.

and i bow scrapingly low to freeler's encyclopedic knowledge.

[Meaty]

Philo
I think this is Joe_Zop or Freeler terrirtory as they seem to know everything about LOS but i'll add basics.
Western style apartments with min facilities of swimming pool, security and reception start from 8,000baht and go up to very high prices depending on location and level of luxury.
Normally it is standard to pay 2 months rent as deposit and 1 months rent in advance. Contracts usually have to be signed, normally 12 mths but you can find 6mths. Now i'm talking about longer term living here, there are apartments, and many of them that will let you stay 1 mth, Boss Tower on RamaIV but its location is crap, i'm sure there are others.
Hotels, for more than a month i think an apartment deal would work out cheaper, but then you have to think about room service, maid service, laundry, maybe stuff like bedding, all stuff a hotel makes very easy for you.
Health insurance and all that kind of stuff drop me an e-mail meatywsg@hotmail.com i say that because as all longtimers in LOS know, the insurance/financial services scene for expats here is saturated there are a lot of cowboys out there especially as the whole industry is unregulated. I have some people i have used for a long time and am more than happy, i will give you there details and then its upto you. But i'm not posting them on a sex board!!! i don't think they would be too happy if they found out!!
Local bank, any of the thai banks will issue anyone a savings account with an ATM card, costs vary but 500baht will be enough to open the account, get your card and have a small balance. Just go into any of them with your passport and you walk out 30 minutes later with a bank. For current accounts you MUST have a valid work permit, no exceptions (if there are let me know). but if you have a work permit your better going to citibank, or HSBC.
I need to get some work done, i'll think up some more stuff and come back later!
Meaty