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06-16-11 18:44 #1377
Posts: 164Essi, thanks for your nice words about me to Prosal
Originally Posted by Essi [View Original Post]Originally Posted by Essi [View Original Post]
I did also think it was very nice to meet you last July, and I hope to meet you again in July.
About the number of girls for a month. It really depends on my situation. If I have a long-term relationship, my starting point is that I am only together with her, so that would say 1 girl. If am in a long-term relationship that is not so serious then maybe 1 or 2 extra girl (-s).
Now my long-term relationship with my last long-term girlfriend have just finish a bit ago (I can tell you the story next time we meet) the situation is a little bit different. Because then I am in a situation where I am looking after a new long-term girlfriend. My experience is that it takes me a long time to find the new long-term girlfriend. Last time where I was a month in Moldova without a long-term girlfriend was July 2 years ago. In that month did I meet and make sex with 8 different Moldovan girls, all young Moldovan girls 18 25 years old, before I did find my last long-term girlfriend. Many of the girls were I together with several or many times. I am 50+ western male so this was close to my psychological and mental limit on the number of girls being sexually together with. So I was very happy when I found my last long-term girlfriend.
This July do I hope to find a new long-term girlfriend. In this process do I think and hope I will be sexually together with 1 to 8 Moldovan girl (-s). Where 1 girl is the best, because then I have found my new long-term girlfriend in "first try". If it ends with 8 different girls would it be a little problematic because then I risk ending without a new long-term girlfriend. But I most wait and see what the further bring. Maybe the Moldovan girls do not want to meet me.
About telling lies, in the report was I talking about "not tell lies in a serious and roughly way, and omit to cheat the girl and do not deceive the girl in a serious way". I was thinking about serious lies, as for example saying to the girl that you want to marry her, so make sex with her and then drop her after making sex with her. Or I thought about the situation where you promise to financially to help her, for example, with her university studies, so make sex with her and then drop her after making sex with her. It was this kind of situations I was thinking about.
About the situation you also are talking about does it really depends about how serious the relationship to the girl is. We most not forget that some of the Moldovan girls also have a local Moldovan boyfriend, and it is stupid to "be clean" if the Moldovan girl have 2 or 3 boyfriends. So I would say, this does depend on the situation.
Thanks for your very nice words about me to Prosal.
Are you in Moldova in July?
Dexa.
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06-16-11 15:25 #1376
Posts: 164Miki Beinspired, I agree with you! I would also like many more reports!
Originally Posted by Miki Beinspired [View Original Post]
About adding photo to my reports. I will never post photo of girls I meet in Moldova. Because personally do I think this is part of the girl and my private life. I do not want to make it public on Internet. In many ways are I am a private person. Because I am private person, do I only write in generally, and there will be no photos of women I have met. But I have been many times in Moldova, so I think I have some "know-how" about Moldova.
I am not putting photo on Internet. Instead I am doing that I am willing to personally at meet with other men from ISG Moldova Forum in Moldova, when I myself are in Moldova. In the past 7 years have I met with 4 friends from ISG Moldova forum. All 4 meetings have been very nice and it has been very good to share experience about women in Moldova, and drink a good drink together. All 4 meeting was in Chisinau.
Miki Beinspired, I hope that it also one day will be possible to meet you in Moldova and take a drink together. I am going to Moldova in the beginning of July; I will stay 4 weeks in Moldova. Will you be in Moldova in July?
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06-16-11 15:09 #1375
Posts: 1030Prosal
Hi dear.
As a guy who met dexa face to face please don't give him hard time. He is a nice guy.
Believe me he try his best to score and to be polite to the girls.
Thats all, I hope you understand me well.
Essi
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06-16-11 15:01 #1374
Posts: 1030Dexa
Dear dexa.
Common, Do you come to moldova to be with one girl for a month? What do you mean don't tell lies?
If you want to have fun with more than one girl you must tell her tonight I will have fun with other girl?
Is thats the chapter number 9?
Essi
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06-16-11 11:16 #1373
Posts: 164A answer to Prosal and a addition of a factor number 9 on my list of requirements
Originally Posted by Prosal [View Original Post]
Personally would I put the "golden years", not as pre- 2005, but instead put it before 2001. Personally would I say that the "golden years" was gone around year 2000. In the 90s, did I many times visit some of the Eastern European countries, and I do agree that the 90s was some "golden years". Especially, do I think that my time in Romania in the 90s was a "party time". But I will not describe my time in various FSU countries from 2000 as a "party time". But the last 5 year in Moldova had been "good years". In the past have I also had some few "good years" in Ukraine. From 2000 did I in some few years parallel many times visit 3 FSU countries including Moldova. From 2004 have I only visit Moldova (I did drop the 2 other FSU countries).
All in all have I been traveling in Eastern European countries and FSU countries in 20 years. So I think I have some experience.
Prosal, if people do attack me or criticize me, do I normally answer the person. You can call it quibbling, pontificating and boring. But I think it is simple courtesy to respond to attacks or criticism other people have pointed at me.
I can understand that you do not like my "expert principles". Witch of my "expert principles" do you not like? Is it the 9 factor I did write about in my reports? These 9 factors are my main "expert principles". And they have been very useful for me. But I would like to know where you disagree in my "expert principles"? Do you disagree with my 9 factors?
PS.
I did mention that I have added a factor number 9 to my list of requirements. The factor number 9 I have add to the list is this:
9) It is very important that girls perceive the western male tourist as a trustworthy and credible person who speaks the truth and not grossly and serious make lies, cheat and crook in relation to the girls. So do not tell lies in a serious and roughly way, and omit to cheat the girl and do not deceive the girl in a serious way. This will give you a good reputation. And in the long run is this a great advantage.
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06-15-11 12:10 #1372
Posts: 44Chisinau
Hello,
All the new reports are so important cause we could know many info about moldova and about girls, so for me all are welcome with photos better.
So thank you!
Anyway my personal report:
I was in the magic chisinau in may just for 6 days the good thing that we I got a nice cheap trip and nice hotel too, I visited also the wine yeard milesti mici. Chateau vartelly. Coshusna anf monastery too.
The night life was cool many disco and club not expensive and always full of girls. But pro no prof or free. The only thing that everybody need it. It's money! Desperate girls looking how to make it!
Also the police at airport asked me the present and they was 2 nice lady!
All the best
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06-15-11 09:17 #1371
Posts: 2306Dexa 960,
Holy shit! You have too much time on your hands obviously! I hope you are not as quibbling, pontificating and boring with your target girls than you are on ISG. (smilie)
Anyway just let me calculate."Ten yeas ago" was, hummm, need my pocket calculator. So 2011-10 = 2001. Is it right?
So it was pre-2005. The Golden Years. The Blessed Era. The days in FSU when even low caliber mongers had dozens of long-legged beauties at their feet eager to please them. And for you it was "a total disaster with no girls"? Weird.
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06-15-11 05:56 #1370
Posts: 164Prosal, you have made a new attack on me!
Originally Posted by prosal [View Original Post]Originally Posted by prosal [View Original Post]
now have you 2 times come with attack on me because of this series. why you have, do i not understand. but i will try to address your attack on me.
first, you did never answered my question, about who you did think my twin mongers was. i have in another report try to answer this question myself, but i do think it was strange that you even did not try to answer this question when you did make this attack on me and my twin mongers.
second i can understand, that you did think is was pathetic that i did not make sex with a moldovan girl in my first holyday to moldova 10 years ago. i can really not se, it should be a pathetic confession and i must say that i totally disagree with you. it is like that you have not read and have overlooked that i in a nearly direct extension of the above statement also wrote "and the last 5 years in moldova have been very good for me in moldova (when we are talking about girls and sex). for me, the first 2 years where i visit moldova was an investment, which has made a good payoff the last 5 year, where i have visit moldova many times". how this can be a pathetic confession, do i simply not understand. actually have i in the last 5 years meet more young 18 29 years old women in moldova then i did when i was a young man (for a 5 year period in my home country when i was a young man). it is odd and a bit strange to experience this as a 50 + old man. but it does also say a little bit about the big potential for the 50 + western man there is in moldova, if he is able to plan things in a good manner and meet the 8 requirements, as i outlined in my last report. the latter is an important condition if you as a 50 + man want to fully at exploit the opportunities offered by moldova. actually do i in many ways agree with essi, that moldova have some opportunities for the 50 + western man. witch was the reason that i made a quote of him in my last report. i just do have the opinion that it is absolutely necessary for the 50 + western man in moldova, that he is able to plan things in a good manner and meet the 8 requirements, as i outlined in my last report if the western man want to fully to exploit the opportunities for meting young moldovan women in moldova.
prosa, please read the quote from different persons about the western male situation in moldova. 2 of the quote are from you.
Originally Posted by felix nordic [View Original Post]Originally Posted by prosal [View Original Post]Originally Posted by prosal [View Original Post]Originally Posted by assimil [View Original Post]
prosal, i would like to know, why did you stop to travel to moldova? if i have understood what you have written correctly, have you only been visiting moldova in a 2 to 3 years period (prosal, please notices that i am talking about visiting moldova, not visiting romania).
if you think moldova is so easy a country for new commer, why did you not continue to visit moldova?
i have been visiting moldova many times in a 10 years period (the last 10 years).
Originally Posted by prosal [View Original Post]
Originally Posted by prosal [View Original Post]
Originally Posted by prosal [View Original Post]
Originally Posted by prosal [View Original Post]
finally can i understand that you do not like my "expert principles". witch of my "expert principles" do you not like? is it the 8 factor i did write about in my last report? these 8 factors are my main "expert principles". and they have been very useful for me. but i would like to know where you disagree in my "expert principles"? do you disagree with my 8 factors?
as i have write did i want to make a series of reports about moldova, where the target group is the 50+ "first time male tourist" who is thinking about coming to moldova and meet moldova women.
i do not have a wish about making a pissing contest with you prosal, about who was best in his first holyday in moldova (10 years ago). i do find this kind of pissing contest very childish.
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06-13-11 18:38 #1369
Posts: 2306Originally Posted by Dexa 960 [View Original Post]
I first went to Chisinau in 2006 and in one month scored much more girls (freebies) I could juggle with.
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06-13-11 18:10 #1368
Posts: 164For the "first time male tourist" who is looking after Moldova women, part 6
I have decide that I will make a series of reports about Moldova, where the target group is the 50+ "first time male tourist" who is thinking about coming to Moldova and meet Moldova women.
Conclusion about the different ways to meet young women in Moldova.
I clearly personally prefer to meet Moldovan women on Internet or disco. But as you can se in my series of reports are the many other ways to meet Moldovan women.
I know that some western male tourist, Moldovan men and Moldovan women (party girls, golddigger and scam-girls) are making lies and false promise. I think that this is the main reason that the situation (man women) sometimes can be a little bit chaotic in Moldova with a difficult rules of the game. I simply think that there are some big looser in this game. One typical loser is the shy western men or the "nice" first time male tourists who are coming to Moldova and are looking after a long-term girlfriend or wife. They simply risk being cheated on a large scale, both emotionally and financially. Another very big loser in this game is the honest serious girls who are looking after serious long-term boyfriend or husband, because she also risks being cheated on a very large scale, particularly in the emotional area. The last losers in this game are the western men who actually married a Moldovan girl he love, but the girl does not love him. She is "Green Card Girl" and she has only married him so she could get the Green Card to her new husband homeland. Quite obviously, is there a high risk of divorce in this type of marriages, when she has obtained permanent residence in her new husband's home country. The big winner in this game is the experienced western male tourist who also speak Russian or Romanian and have a big "know how" about Moldova and also know "the rules of the game". Another big winner in this game, are the Moldovan women who are party girls, golddigger and scam-girls (but remember not all girls are that).
These game problems is the reason that I have created this series of reports where the target group for this series of reports is the first time 50+ year old male tourist who are planning to visit Moldova. So these group of men better know the "the rules of the game" in Moldova.
But the big question is, are Moldova a good place to meet women? This is much more difficult question to answer. First Moldova is different from many other countries. Second you must realize that there are big different between young Moldovan women. In reality can you split young Moldovan women up into 6 groups. The 6 group is:
1) The prostitute.
2) The party girl.
3) The "Milkmaid"
4) The liberal girl.
5) The moderate girl.
6) The conservative girl.
About the prostitute, will I say that traditional prostitution is rarely in Chisinau. There are simply few hardcore prostitutes in Moldova. Street walker does hardly exist in Chisinau. There are only few "clinic" in Chisinau, and it is very difficult to make contact with these few "clinic". There are some few prostitutes in the hotels. So if you want to make contact with a traditional prostitute is Moldova a very bad country to visit.
The party girl; is the girl that very much like going to disco, restaurant and night clubs. She likes to drink expensive drinks and go on expensive restaurant. The big problem with the party girl is that she only like to party with you, and that you most likely never will make sex with her, even after 6 or more dates. With the party girl will you only have a good party, no sex and you will use a lot of money. So be careful. Some party girls do pretend that she like you and want to be your girlfriend and later make sex. You have 3 4 dates (romantic dates) and then when you want to begin to make sex she "just want to friends" or she simply disappears and you can not make contact with her. With party girl you will only use a lot of money and spend a lot time, and you only get "no sex".
The "Milkmaid" girl does not milk the cow, no she milk your wallet. And like a good "Milkmaid" she likes to make your wallet dry. The "Milkmaid" girl include girls other call for simi-pro, amateur, golddiggers and girls looking after a sponsor. But it also include more serious girls, that end up as your girlfriend and at the same time often ask for present to winter clothes, study fee, summer clothes, new shoe and so on. The problem with the "Milkmaid" girl is that you need to take a very tight control over how you are using your money, and also have very tight control over your level for your money spending. I have seen example where the using of the money did run out of control. Another thing is that many of these "Milkmaid" girls maybe have 2 4 boyfriends. So it is important that you not are naοve. The good thing with the "Milkmaid" girl is that you easy can make contact with her, and after 1 to 3 date can you most likely make sex with her. But as I have said be careful. Many of the "Milkmaid" girls prefer to have long time relationship so it can be very difficult for a 1 week tourist to make sex with a "Milkmaid" girl. For many of these girls is it a big plus if you come regular to Moldova or live in Moldova.
The liberal girl is in some limit ways like the "Milkmaid" girl, but you can say this group of girls includes girls who are looking after men who at the same time both can be boyfriend and sponsor. This group of girls can be more and less serious, and they can be looking after both serious boyfriend or looking after not-serious boyfriend. The liberal girl is looking after long-term relationship. They are much more moderate then the "Milkmaid" when they ask for present. Many of them are easy-going girls. This group of liberal girls also includes another group of girls,"the young naive girl" that makes sex with you after 1 to 3 dates and hopes that you will choose her as a long time girlfriend. She never asks for present, and she say no if you offer her a present. This type of girls is sometimes calling for freebies girls. In my experience is there only few freebies girls of this type in Chisinau and it are difficult to find them. For the liberal girl is it an absolute most that you come regular to Moldova or live in Moldova.
The "Moderate" girl; is the girl we in the West European countries would call a normally girl. She is very carefully about not asking for to many present or she will not ask for present at all. She is carefully about not using too much money when she is in disco or restaurant. The problem is that you can only begin to make sex with her, when she is sure that you want a serious relationship with her. Another problem is that her goal most likely is to married you, or maybe she wants a very quick married (after some few months or 1 year). The moderate girl can also be very nervous; she does not like to talk English in cell telephone if other Moldova people hear it. You also risk that she can get nervous and not show up to the date you have make agreement about. If you are looking after a wife in Moldova, then the moderate girl can be a good candidate. The big problem is to find her and know for sure that she is a "good" girl. For the moderate girl is it an absolute most that you come regular to Moldova or live in Moldova. Alternative is a very quick married (after some few months to 1 year).
The conservative girls; as western tourists will you most likely not meet this type of girls in Moldova. There father and mother run them very strictly and they are munch more nervous then the moderate girl. The biggest problem with this type of girl is to make the first contact.
When Moldovan women choose the man, do I think that the 8 most important factor is these factor I mention now:
1) First, they look at how often you have been in Moldova. Here is it best if you at least have been 2 3 times in Moldova (before you meet the girl). Many Moldovan girls are getting very suspicious if a western man is in Moldova on holydays for the first time, and they think he is a "typical sex tourist" that appear as a stereotypical sex tourist (to the girl).
2) The second factor is, do you live in Moldova, or how often do you visit Moldova in a year. The best is if you live in Moldova (as a western man) or you are coming to Moldova on a regular basis, which would say that you visit Moldova at least 3 times in a year.
3) The 3nd very important factor is that they also look on why you are in Moldova. And again here is it best if you are in Moldova because of business, visit family in Moldova or visit long-term old friends living in Moldova. You shall have known these the local friends in many years.
4) The 4nd very important factor the girls also look at is in what extent you're willing to a long-term relationship with a girl. It does not need to be a serious long-term relationship, and you can have relationship with several girls at the same time. For example, you can have a relationship with 3 girls at the same time. But the willingness to making a long-term relationship is a big plus. Long-term can in this connection be 1 year or more.
5) The 5nd very important factor the girls also look at is the socio-economic status of the man. A good socio-economic status is a great advantage. It is a big plus if the man is willing to use tools from the "gift packet" where the "tool box" from these "gift packet" are giving a girl one or several of these points: find work (in Chisinau) with a good salary to your girlfriend, pay the rent for the apartment, give present, trip to tourist sites, give "taxi money", pay the university fees, buy clothes for the winter to the girl, give the girl a "a good time at the swimming pool, disco and restaurant", and so on. In Moldova, if you as a western man want a more permanent relationship, you are supposed to "help your girlfriend".
6) The 6nd very important factors the girls also look at are the personality of the man. Many Moldovan girls prefer if the man is intelligence, quiet, calm, educated, has charm, social skills, responsibility, kindness, reliable, cultural knowledge and confidence. Many Moldovan women do even prefer if the man is the boss in the relationship. Moldovan women do very munch dislike if the man has drinking problems.
7) The man's marital status. For many Moldova girls is it very important that the man is not married.
8) It is my personally experience that factors like race, age and appearance (how he look) only plays a minor role compared with the 7 factors I first mentioned. But of course does it means a lot to the girl that you enjoy a good health and have no disability. It is a plus if you speak Russian or Romanian, but it is my personally experience that it is possible to make it if you only speak English.
For the first time 50+ male tourist to Moldova will I strongly recommend that he does not have to big expectations because he could very easy get disappointed. Most likely would he not make sex with Moldovan women on his first holyday in Moldova. Making sex with Moldova women will most likely first come after 3 holydays in Moldova. In general shall he consider the first 2 years in Moldova as investments years where he gets some experience about Moldova and Moldovan women. The 50+ western male tourists shall only expect little sex the 2 first years he is in Moldova. My personally experience is that if a man actually meet these 8 central factors I have mentioned in my report, then a 50+ western man will actually easy could meet a young Moldovan girl / women 18 to 29 years old (and have sex with her). But remember this is first after the first 2 years he is in Moldova.
I still remember 10 years ago when I visit Moldova the first time. It was a totally disaster with "no girls" and "no sex". Then it from my holyday number 2 in Moldova slowly and very slowly did become better and better. And the last 5 years in Moldova have been very good for me in Moldova (when we are talking about girls and sex). For me, the first 2 years where I visit Moldova was an investment, which has made a good payoff the last 5 year, where I have visit Moldova many times.
It is easy to meet young Moldova women on a first date, but after the first date do you risk to run into a lot of problems. I will also say it is difficult for a first-time short-term 50+ male visitors and tourist to meet and make sex with young Moldova women, at least in Chisinau. It is a very big plus if you come regular to Moldova or live in Moldova. It is just my experience that the girls prefer to meet men who are coming many times to Moldova. It is also my personally experience that is take some time before a person finds out how things works in Moldova.
Please also notice that Moldovan women, when they begin a long-term relationship with a western man often want "something back", which could be marriage, economy support to there study or something else. In reality is it not that different from western women in western countries. Just think about, how many young good looking western women do you think married to a poor unemployed young man without money? At least in my home country is it really very rare to happen.
It is also important that you have planned your trip in a good way. You shall make a lot of chat on Internet. So you have some telephone number on Moldovan girls before you arrive to Moldova. Also make sure that you have a lot of money with you to Moldova (mix both in cash and in credit card). I have unfortunately sometimes, but luckily only rarely, meet western male tourist who had no plan, no telephone numbers and too little money with them. On the top did they drink all too much alcohol. And quite obvious did there holyday of course end in a total disaster.
Originally Posted by Viking30 [View Original Post]Originally Posted by Viking30 [View Original Post]
The big advantaged with Moldova, is that if you actually do make the 8 factors I have mention in this report, then will it actually be easy for a 50+ western man to meet a young Moldovan women 18 to 29 years old, and make sex with her.
You can ask me, why I come to Moldova. First at all, I have long time friends living in Chisinau, so I visit them while I am in Chisinau. Chisinau is a very safe city, there are many very good disco, restaurant and night clubs. Many people in Chisinau does speak English. And Moldova is still cheap compare with West European countries. I do have a very good time when I am in Chisinau.
All in all will I say said that Moldova is a very good country to visit, if you do not expect Moldova "to be Bangkok", if you are will willing to invest at least 2 years with visiting Moldova, come regular to Moldova every year and you do make the 8 factor I have mention in this report. If these conditions are met, can I only recommend a 50 + single man to come and try Moldova. But I can of course not provide a guarantee for success. I can just say that I personally after visiting Moldova many times in the last 10 years have had a great personal pleasure in these visits to Moldova.
For more about the possibility for a 50+ western man can you read more in this very good report Essi have made, where I have make this quote from.
Originally Posted by Essi [View Original Post]
They can be some few other reports, made of people who only have made some few reports about women in Moldova where I personally have thought that the author of report maybe did have problems with making the distinction between fact and fiction/"pipe" dreams and reality. But you can easy recognize these types of reports.
Finally do I want to say that I have no desire to get into a pissing contest with other people in this forum. Off course can you write if you disagree with me, but do it in a nice way. We are all just people who like Moldova and very often visit Moldova.
My next report in this series will be about dating with women in Moldova.
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06-01-11 19:59 #1367
Posts: 2306Nostalgi
Anyone been to Nostalgi lately?
It used to be the best cocktail bar in the history on mankind, but is it still good?
Multumesc for any info.
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05-29-11 09:40 #1366
Posts: 2306Originally Posted by Zinda [View Original Post]
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05-26-11 04:07 #1365
Posts: 26Info
Planning a trip to Chisinau. Would any one have following info.
1. Is there any park / s in the city? Any suggestions for rental apartment in a nice central area near night life (disco, casino etc) near health club / gym and park (for jogging ).
2. Would like to take Russian language classes. Any info about Russian language schools?
3. Names of some discos for non pro regular girls?
Thanks
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05-24-11 09:40 #1364
Posts: 2306Originally Posted by Lukasek [View Original Post]
BTW, this has absolutly no interest for most of the guys here, but there's a great site about all the historic buildings in Kish, street by street. Here is the link, for whoever a bit of cultural knowledge might concern.
http://www.monument.sit.md/
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05-24-11 06:36 #1363
Posts: 1699Prosal,
Thank you, right last night I spoke with Zebulon1 about Kishinev, who as me never been there, but he seems to like much more Kiev than to try Moldova for the reasons I already wrote.
Just a question, so do you like Kishinev and Moldovian girls if you asked Essi about September?