Koh Samui

[BionicMan]

You never know what you get when you make a reservation online. The place may be bug infested. Or noisy. Or bad location. Or they add joiner fees (granted unlikely). Anything at all.

As stated before, have not paid more than 500 baht for hotel in Samui, not since 2004 anyway. And I do admit an agenda here. Samui hotel prices are sky rocketing to ding-dong Farang levels, and if other take a stand as I do, then perhaps the prices will come to reasonable level. All my places have AC, large bed, hot water, cable, fridge, etc. They're spartan yet functional.

If you must make a reservation online, would make it only for a day or two, and then when there get a better place for a cheaper price. Best way is via shoe leather. Trust me. Method may be dated, but if not broke, don't fix it.

I suggested a couple I knew, even if I reside by friends when I am there.
Where I stay I pay 700 with AC, large bed, hot water, cable, fridge, dvd, solid house (no bungalow) 50mtr from the beach.

[Popper1]

better go for bungalow,
try here

http://www.sawadee.com/hotels/samui.html
mae mai home
moonhut bungalow
[CodeWord901] bungalow samui


if not happy yet, feel free to pm for more info and i can get some from my friend there

you never know what you get when you make a reservation online. the place may be bug infested. or noisy. or bad location. or they add joiner fees (granted unlikely). anything at all.

as stated before, have not paid more than 500 baht for hotel in samui, not since 2004 anyway. and i do admit an agenda here. samui hotel prices are sky rocketing to ding-dong farang levels, and if other take a stand as i do, then perhaps the prices will come to reasonable level. all my places have ac, large bed, hot water, cable, fridge, etc. they're spartan yet functional.

if you must make a reservation online, would make it only for a day or two, and then when there get a better place for a cheaper price. best way is via shoe leather. trust me. method may be dated, but if not broke, don't fix it.

[Tfutfu]

Better luck a few steps away at yo-yo..

Good report - seems we prefer same bars.

I use to stay in Maenam many times and i like to joke with the old mamasan in Yoyo-Bar (same mamiyao next door) and will go there again in some weeks.

Would you be so kind to PN me the name of the girl you had from YoYo?

Thanks

[BionicMan]

can you recommend any hotels in maenam?

better go for bungalow,
try here

http://www.sawadee.com/hotels/samui.html
mae mai home
moonhut bungalow
[CodeWord901] bungalow samui


if not happy yet, feel free to pm for more info and i can get some from my friend there

[Gwailo]

Can you recommend any hotels in Maenam?

Recently finished some 10 days on the rock.
Plane was full but the new resorts are surely absorbing most of them (families) as bars do not seem much busy. Different story on restaurants (far too many, still so I am wodnering how all can make a living)
My base is always Maenam: sufficient amount of bars (appr 26) from where to pick up girls, sufficiently off the main routes to be more quiet and less 'tourist'.
Maenam lives a lot of repeat visitors and it is not unusual to re-meet previous acquaintances (in terms of visitors and girls)
The so called 'dark side', past the main area direction south, offers Sabai-Sabai, always equipped with half a dozen girls. Geko (2 bored girls) and Yo-Yo seemed living a 2nd life, thanks to some new arrivals from...(guess?) Isan.
Sabai-sabai caters mongers and groups in their clientele, with some foreign girls not surprised of seeing men in their 40's and 50' with local nieces
Did not do any pick from there this time: nothing appealing
Better luck a few steps away at yo-yo.
Mama-san, with quite some spring-times behind, has stocked the bar with 4-5 girls. 7-8's, apart one lady that could have been a mama-san school mate, by the age
Greeted by one, I quickly diverted my attention to another girl, slightly chubby, who seemed quite playful.
And, boys, she was really playful.
She reported having arrived jsut the day before (never heard this, didn't you?), relative of mama-san and, surprise surprise, interested to good sex as it was 3 months she did not have any!
I needed tocheck this out, so I booked her for the night.
She delivered all what she promised, including a discrete hunger for sex and a superb BBBJCIM.
She really sucked as a trooper, and was more than happy to accept DATY
Took her for a repeat a couple of nights laters. She came to the room with nice sexy lingerie in her bag!

Also OK Bar,just a few steps from lemon Bar offers few girls for pick, more on the slim and tiny thai type.
Anns delivers great massage. Can't report much on performances as I picked her up at nearly 3am and so the deed was more a "have to do it" than else, as we were both tired.
Wake up service was delivered and then sleep again letting her go mid morning.
I do not like to have girls hanging around all day, unless they are really worth the excercise (and no temple and gold shop is in the program).

My Bar has always a decent selection of WG's and during my stay they went through a refreshening of the stock
Did not try any of the new, but did a repeat of one I road tested in previous trips.

This as much for the Maenam scene, where I never negotiate prices: pay the bar fine 2/300 B$, depending on places,and then let the girl go with 1000B$ in her pursue or pocket, plus 40B$ for a moto-taxi ride/tip. Never had a complain.

Had an excursion one night in Chaweng but it did not seem busy.

Went to see Lamai (I feel it will soon take over the tourists from Chaweng) and visited the two bar areas.
definetely some talents around to be picked up, even if none of the areas offers the opportunity to some "pre-check" on girls,a nd most of them are definetely on the straight business direction: either you drink or you take them for a ST

Ventured to the mainland, in Krabi area for a planned 2 nights 3 day stay, but came back after 24hrs.
The night scene is concentrated in one main area, Center Point, where a dozen of bars pump music loud to prevail on the other. As a result, lot of noise. Stopped in one bar: had a drink, costing more than Maenam and the girls very average.
Moved to another bar after a round of them and again, after a drink me and my wingman deecided to leave. No bar girls were bothering to approach, jsut concerned to continue their own chit-chat. The most pro-active was a decent (and not wild) ladyboy at the bar next door: go figure! No wonder why sometime men escape from women. LOL.
So wrote Krabi off as a no-go, in addition to the difficulties to park, far too many tourist restaurant and shops.
More expensive than Samui.
Not my scene.

[Av8r]

Recently finished some 10 days on the rock.
Plane was full but the new resorts are surely absorbing most of them (families) as bars do not seem much busy. Different story on restaurants (far too many, still so I am wodnering how all can make a living)
My base is always Maenam: sufficient amount of bars (appr 26) from where to pick up girls, sufficiently off the main routes to be more quiet and less 'tourist'.
Maenam lives a lot of repeat visitors and it is not unusual to re-meet previous acquaintances (in terms of visitors and girls)
The so called 'dark side', past the main area direction south, offers Sabai-Sabai, always equipped with half a dozen girls. Geko (2 bored girls) and Yo-Yo seemed living a 2nd life, thanks to some new arrivals from...(guess?) Isan.
Sabai-sabai caters mongers and groups in their clientele, with some foreign girls not surprised of seeing men in their 40's and 50' with local nieces
Did not do any pick from there this time: nothing appealing
Better luck a few steps away at yo-yo.
Mama-san, with quite some spring-times behind, has stocked the bar with 4-5 girls. 7-8's, apart one lady that could have been a mama-san school mate, by the age
Greeted by one, I quickly diverted my attention to another girl, slightly chubby, who seemed quite playful.
And, boys, she was really playful.
She reported having arrived jsut the day before (never heard this, didn't you?), relative of mama-san and, surprise surprise, interested to good sex as it was 3 months she did not have any!
I needed tocheck this out, so I booked her for the night.
She delivered all what she promised, including a discrete hunger for sex and a superb BBBJCIM.
She really sucked as a trooper, and was more than happy to accept DATY
Took her for a repeat a couple of nights laters. She came to the room with nice sexy lingerie in her bag!

Also OK Bar,just a few steps from lemon Bar offers few girls for pick, more on the slim and tiny thai type.
Anns delivers great massage. Can't report much on performances as I picked her up at nearly 3am and so the deed was more a "have to do it" than else, as we were both tired.
Wake up service was delivered and then sleep again letting her go mid morning.
I do not like to have girls hanging around all day, unless they are really worth the excercise (and no temple and gold shop is in the program).

My Bar has always a decent selection of WG's and during my stay they went through a refreshening of the stock
Did not try any of the new, but did a repeat of one I road tested in previous trips.

This as much for the Maenam scene, where I never negotiate prices: pay the bar fine 2/300 B$, depending on places,and then let the girl go with 1000B$ in her pursue or pocket, plus 40B$ for a moto-taxi ride/tip. Never had a complain.

Had an excursion one night in Chaweng but it did not seem busy.

Went to see Lamai (I feel it will soon take over the tourists from Chaweng) and visited the two bar areas.
definetely some talents around to be picked up, even if none of the areas offers the opportunity to some "pre-check" on girls,a nd most of them are definetely on the straight business direction: either you drink or you take them for a ST

Ventured to the mainland, in Krabi area for a planned 2 nights 3 day stay, but came back after 24hrs.
The night scene is concentrated in one main area, Center Point, where a dozen of bars pump music loud to prevail on the other. As a result, lot of noise. Stopped in one bar: had a drink, costing more than Maenam and the girls very average.
Moved to another bar after a round of them and again, after a drink me and my wingman deecided to leave. No bar girls were bothering to approach, jsut concerned to continue their own chit-chat. The most pro-active was a decent (and not wild) ladyboy at the bar next door: go figure! No wonder why sometime men escape from women. LOL.
So wrote Krabi off as a no-go, in addition to the difficulties to park, far too many tourist restaurant and shops.
More expensive than Samui.
Not my scene.

Did you stay in Krabi itself, or venture to Ao Nang Beach town. I stayed in Ao nang and had a great time for a couple of days. The bar girl areas are well hidden and hard to find though. Once you find them, they can be a lot of fun. Mostly 7s and 8s. no stunners. We stayed on a bungalow in the "jungle" for 500 baht. We rented motosais and toured around and went scuba diving. Really enjoyed it.

[Popper1]

Ok, finally of bit of time to update my piece / thoughts on Koh Samui.

For those going to Samui, you can go by plane, train, or bus. Going to Samui I generally take the train. On the ISG, travel via train has I believe never been written on. I, cheap Charlie, will avoid the farang-priced airplane. Recall reading somewhere that the flight to Samui from BKK is among the most expensive flight per mile in the world. Bangkok Air has the monopoly, tho now recently Thai airways also goes there but this has made little difference price-wise. It still ridiculously high. If you have the slightest sense of adventure and want to save some cash, the best way to go Samui is via train. Go to the main train station, and with the new underground railroad. The underground rr is quick, direct, and really modern. There is an underground entrance train station not far from Cowboy. Once in, just ask how to get the main train station. Amazingly fast. Unlike past, you did not need rely on taxi drivers. And the usual traffic / pollution to get there. Purchase your Samui ticket ONLY at the main station. Never at a travel agency. If you do, you will overpay and not get the best seat possible. Get a 2nd class sleeper car ticket, and the bottom bunk is better. Paid as I recall 1050 baht or thereabouts. Last time I took the top bunk, and nearly froze up there. Bottom bunk is better.

At the main train station has small sandwiches and similar. Get them. You can also leave your luggage there for a cheap price for as long as needed. From memory, and could be off slightly, train left about 7M. There is a pitfall, and I fell for it. Soon after the train moves, the "conductor" gives you a menu written in Thai and it says something and 150 BAHT in large letters on top. Asked the guy and he said cost for the meal is 150 baht. However, this was a scam and naturally afterwards told me the real price of 150 baht for EACH meal (if you could call that crap in any way a meal) and 50 baht to "deliver" it. 50 baht, please. That food was pure Thai garbage – eg: the "fresh orange juice" was really orange colored sugar water, the "hot coffee" was cold and putrid, and the rest was inedible. Pissed me off big time, since I take the train to SAVE money, 350 baht is 7/1oth my daily hotel bill, and was the only scam I fell for the entire trip. There was a woman who also offered food on the train for like 50 baht, which did not look bad. Oh well, will do next time.

The train is always full w/European backpackers. And I do mean it is packed with people every time I go. The place you sit, the seats convert to a sleeper car, and there a curtain for privacy to relax and sleep. Personally I grab my ipod and listen to my audio books / podcasts for most the trip. Whole thing a bit of an adventure. Train stops and starts who knows where along the way. Wake up about 4:30 AM at town called sura-tani. From there about a 2 hour bus ride and then a boat ride. Arrival in Samui is about 10: AM. Of course, people ask you what hotel you are staying at. Tell them nothing. They are trying to sell you their overpriced hotels for commiss. Personally I know the island well enough to know where my 500 baht hotels are located and always stay there. I have always found something available for cheap. Once the boat lands in Naton, take a baht bus for about 60 baht to Lamia / Chewang / wherever.

As I recall, the airlines are 4000 baht. Plus you have to pay few hundred for taxi to get to the airport, and then of course deal with the taxi mafia once in Samui which further steals your cash. Whole thing a scam. I always take the train down. Also saves a night hotel bill.

When going back from Samui to BKK have taken the bus (once), train, and airplane. Do not take the bus. Ever. Thais love their noise, and when I went they had this damn TV blasting LOUD for about 1/2 the ride. The Thai humor itself was only slightly less painful since I do not understand the language. I was with 40-plus year old Thai lady who wanted to give me a BBBJ right in my seat. Ummmm thanks but no thanks. If I were in a hotel w/ hot running water then perhaps, but for the time decided to pass. Only reason to take the plane back is if you can directly connect to your flight out of the country.compared to the train, it saves a huge amount of time, and after a 14 plus hour ride, by the time you get to BKK, rent a ST hotel to shower, clean up, and get taxi back to airport, not worth it IMO. Best to just grab a connecting flight and then leave the country.

OK. Next posting will get to the main topic at hand and write of Chewang Beach, the gals there, and related topics. Much to report on. Perhaps these will kickstart this forum bit.

All additions / corrections appreciated.

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[BionicMan]

I always stay in Lamai beach, for me it seems offer right balance of plenty of available girls, night-life, beach, restaurants, reasonably priced hotels etc. Should I also try Maenam next time? On the Samui website it mentions Maenam as having a quiet night-life compared to other areas. What is "Sabai-sabai" exactly? A bar or some massage place? It's not clear for your entry.

Appreciate your comment.

Sabai sabai is a bar
Maenam is definetely quieter than Lamai
But has sufficient WG to pick up fromOn the other hand when yoiu go to the square in lamai with the boxing ring and the thens of kiosk, you are mainly ther to be hooked for drinks
In Maenam it is all less obvious. You drink, you have your fun, you can test a bit the girls
In Bangrak, one can try Papa Joe, some 8-10 girls around.
Maenam is not the place for quantity

[GreenRoamer]

Recently finished some 10 days on the rock.
Plane was full but the new resorts are surely absorbing most of them (families) as bars do not seem much busy. Different story on restaurants (far too many, still so I am wodnering how all can make a living)
My base is always Maenam: sufficient amount of bars (appr 26) from where to pick up girls, sufficiently off the main routes to be more quiet and less 'tourist'.
Maenam lives a lot of repeat visitors and it is not unusual to re-meet previous acquaintances (in terms of visitors and girls)
The so called 'dark side', past the main area direction south, offers Sabai-Sabai, always equipped with half a dozen girls. Geko (2 bored girls) and Yo-Yo seemed living a 2nd life, thanks to some new arrivals from...(guess?) Isan.
Sabai-sabai caters mongers and groups in their clientele, with some foreign girls not surprised of seeing men in their 40's and 50' with local nieces
Did not do any pick from there this time: nothing appealing
Better luck a few steps away at yo-yo.
Mama-san, with quite some spring-times behind, has stocked the bar with 4-5 girls. 7-8's, apart one lady that could have been a mama-san school mate, by the age
Greeted by one, I quickly diverted my attention to another girl, slightly chubby, who seemed quite playful.
And, boys, she was really playful.
She reported having arrived jsut the day before (never heard this, didn't you?), relative of mama-san and, surprise surprise, interested to good sex as it was 3 months she did not have any!
I needed tocheck this out, so I booked her for the night.
She delivered all what she promised, including a discrete hunger for sex and a superb BBBJCIM.
She really sucked as a trooper, and was more than happy to accept DATY
Took her for a repeat a couple of nights laters. She came to the room with nice sexy lingerie in her bag!

Also OK Bar,just a few steps from lemon Bar offers few girls for pick, more on the slim and tiny thai type.
Anns delivers great massage. Can't report much on performances as I picked her up at nearly 3am and so the deed was more a "have to do it" than else, as we were both tired.
Wake up service was delivered and then sleep again letting her go mid morning.
I do not like to have girls hanging around all day, unless they are really worth the excercise (and no temple and gold shop is in the program).

My Bar has always a decent selection of WG's and during my stay they went through a refreshening of the stock
Did not try any of the new, but did a repeat of one I road tested in previous trips.

This as much for the Maenam scene, where I never negotiate prices: pay the bar fine 2/300 B$, depending on places,and then let the girl go with 1000B$ in her pursue or pocket, plus 40B$ for a moto-taxi ride/tip. Never had a complain.

Had an excursion one night in Chaweng but it did not seem busy.

Went to see Lamai (I feel it will soon take over the tourists from Chaweng) and visited the two bar areas.
definetely some talents around to be picked up, even if none of the areas offers the opportunity to some "pre-check" on girls,a nd most of them are definetely on the straight business direction: either you drink or you take them for a ST

Ventured to the mainland, in Krabi area for a planned 2 nights 3 day stay, but came back after 24hrs.
The night scene is concentrated in one main area, Center Point, where a dozen of bars pump music loud to prevail on the other. As a result, lot of noise. Stopped in one bar: had a drink, costing more than Maenam and the girls very average.
Moved to another bar after a round of them and again, after a drink me and my wingman deecided to leave. No bar girls were bothering to approach, jsut concerned to continue their own chit-chat. The most pro-active was a decent (and not wild) ladyboy at the bar next door: go figure! No wonder why sometime men escape from women. LOL.
So wrote Krabi off as a no-go, in addition to the difficulties to park, far too many tourist restaurant and shops.
More expensive than Samui.
Not my scene.

I always stay in Lamai beach, for me it seems offer right balance of plenty of available girls, night-life, beach, restaurants, reasonably priced hotels etc. Should I also try Maenam next time? On the Samui website it mentions Maenam as having a quiet night-life compared to other areas. What is "Sabai-sabai" exactly? A bar or some massage place? It's not clear for your entry.

Appreciate your comment.

[Anais Nin]

Hi guys,

I'm a not very active member of the board but do like to try to report if I have anything useful to add. Last post was a couple of years ago on Bali.

Anyway guys, having a significant other here with me, evening action is out of the question. Are any of the bars mentioned (Sabai Sabai, YoYo, Chill Out etc) likely to have any mid to late afternoon girls in attendance? Are there any recognised parlours as in Bali?

Any feedback gratefully received and rest assured this intrepid reporter will report back.

Thanks

[Golfinho]

I agree, but we also know how some of them get boring and difficult when they think they own you (or, better, own your wallet)
So it is not the we sticked them into our head and feel guilty of butterflying, rather than them, especially in low periods, sticking you and your wallet in their mind, for a repeat (business)

Not following you on this. Just say No and move on. Low Season a buyers' market. You have the opportunity to try as many of the girls as you fancy. Enjoy them all.

[BionicMan]

One question: what does 'playing the field' or butterflying have to do with making Lamai a small town? You're playing with prostitutes, are you not? You can't let them get into your head.

I agree, but we also know how some of them get boring and difficult when they think they own you (or, better, own your wallet)
So it is not the we sticked them into our head and feel guilty of butterflying, rather than them, especially in low periods, sticking you and your wallet in their mind, for a repeat (business)

[BionicMan]

Recently finished some 10 days on the rock.
Plane was full but the new resorts are surely absorbing most of them (families) as bars do not seem much busy. Different story on restaurants (far too many, still so I am wodnering how all can make a living)
My base is always Maenam: sufficient amount of bars (appr 26) from where to pick up girls, sufficiently off the main routes to be more quiet and less 'tourist'.
Maenam lives a lot of repeat visitors and it is not unusual to re-meet previous acquaintances (in terms of visitors and girls)
The so called 'dark side', past the main area direction south, offers Sabai-Sabai, always equipped with half a dozen girls. Geko (2 bored girls) and Yo-Yo seemed living a 2nd life, thanks to some new arrivals from...(guess?) Isan.
Sabai-sabai caters mongers and groups in their clientele, with some foreign girls not surprised of seeing men in their 40's and 50' with local nieces
Did not do any pick from there this time: nothing appealing
Better luck a few steps away at yo-yo.
Mama-san, with quite some spring-times behind, has stocked the bar with 4-5 girls. 7-8's, apart one lady that could have been a mama-san school mate, by the age
Greeted by one, I quickly diverted my attention to another girl, slightly chubby, who seemed quite playful.
And, boys, she was really playful.
She reported having arrived jsut the day before (never heard this, didn't you?), relative of mama-san and, surprise surprise, interested to good sex as it was 3 months she did not have any!
I needed tocheck this out, so I booked her for the night.
She delivered all what she promised, including a discrete hunger for sex and a superb BBBJCIM.
She really sucked as a trooper, and was more than happy to accept DATY
Took her for a repeat a couple of nights laters. She came to the room with nice sexy lingerie in her bag!

Also OK Bar,just a few steps from lemon Bar offers few girls for pick, more on the slim and tiny thai type.
Anns delivers great massage. Can't report much on performances as I picked her up at nearly 3am and so the deed was more a "have to do it" than else, as we were both tired.
Wake up service was delivered and then sleep again letting her go mid morning.
I do not like to have girls hanging around all day, unless they are really worth the excercise (and no temple and gold shop is in the program).

My Bar has always a decent selection of WG's and during my stay they went through a refreshening of the stock
Did not try any of the new, but did a repeat of one I road tested in previous trips.

This as much for the Maenam scene, where I never negotiate prices: pay the bar fine 2/300 B$, depending on places,and then let the girl go with 1000B$ in her pursue or pocket, plus 40B$ for a moto-taxi ride/tip. Never had a complain.

Had an excursion one night in Chaweng but it did not seem busy.

Went to see Lamai (I feel it will soon take over the tourists from Chaweng) and visited the two bar areas.
definetely some talents around to be picked up, even if none of the areas offers the opportunity to some "pre-check" on girls,a nd most of them are definetely on the straight business direction: either you drink or you take them for a ST

Ventured to the mainland, in Krabi area for a planned 2 nights 3 day stay, but came back after 24hrs.
The night scene is concentrated in one main area, Center Point, where a dozen of bars pump music loud to prevail on the other. As a result, lot of noise. Stopped in one bar: had a drink, costing more than Maenam and the girls very average.
Moved to another bar after a round of them and again, after a drink me and my wingman deecided to leave. No bar girls were bothering to approach, jsut concerned to continue their own chit-chat. The most pro-active was a decent (and not wild) ladyboy at the bar next door: go figure! No wonder why sometime men escape from women. LOL.
So wrote Krabi off as a no-go, in addition to the difficulties to park, far too many tourist restaurant and shops.
More expensive than Samui.
Not my scene.

[Yiddo]

Browsing this thread, I've found out loads about hotels, food, renting bikes, Thai phrases. Anyone got any info on P4P?

[Golfinho]

firstly thanks for all the replies.

yes i have been to maenam once but that was to do a cooking class but was during the day. unfortunately i lost a brother to a motorcycle accident a few years ago and vowed never to get on one so it is some what a self imposed exile.

the lamai scene has it all from a mongering perspective however it can become a very small town if you stay there a week or so. especially if you play the field and butterfly as i do. so new an fresh ground is good.

i have experience the taxi mafia who won't switch their meters on so i know the issues of traveling of a night, think renting a car might be the go.

bionicman i look forward to seeing your report on lamai and krabi.....i have looked at krabi as a possible destination.

regards,

ab453

krabi: popular with older scandinavians, and families. mongering opportunites more limited that samui, a few rep001tered places for sex tourism. but, very scenic locale, laid back, nice. and there's diving for anyone who does that. a nice place to spend a week. a definite place to go and check out. can get around the center w/o a motorbike. one question: what does 'playing the field' or butterflying have to do with making lamai a small town? you're playing with prostitutes, are you not? you can't let them get into your head.